Scouting combine, so far
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Just saw this on CBSSportsline.com
02/27/2010 - "I have a lot to prove," Brown said Thursday. "I don't get talked about all the time on ESPN like those other guys because they're from big schools, and I'm from Troy. It's a great opportunity to let everybody see I can make all the throws and hopefully show I'm just as good as they are." Brown said he has talked to scouts from the Browns in Indianapolis, but he has not met with Coach Eric Mangini, team president Mike Holmgren or General Manager Tom Heckert, at least not yet. The Browns are expected to draft a quarterback with one of their 11 picks. One knock on Brown is he has a three-quarter arm delivery, and he doesn't plan to change it. "I've heard media people say it's an odd delivery and it's a problem," Brown said. "I disagree. I don't think it's a problem. The only reason it's different is it's quicker than anybody else's. "It would be a problem if I short-armed it and didn't have velocity, but that isn't the case. I think it's good because it's so quick. Hopefully everybody else agrees." Brown completed 61.7 percent of his passes in 2008 and 63.7 percent in 2009 playing in the Sun Belt Conference. - Jeff Schudel, The News-Herald
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players...w;pageContainer
Interesting.....
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One of my theories is that we will draft a QB and it will be somebody none of us have heard about. I expect them to grab a system QB with the Jets 3rd round pick that we have. Somebody like the kid from CBS sportsline. I like that he has a strange delivery. I remember some kid out of the U having a strange delivery and it worked out pretty well for us.
PS. This is going to sound like Jon Madden but...duh....duh....Levi Brown? If you want your kid to grow up and be a football player folks, name him Levi. That is a football name. Its on par with Tank Mass or Pyle Hitter. I like the look and sound of this kid.
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C.J. Spiller...
That is all.

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C.J. Spiller...
That is all.

C.J. Spiller...
That is all.

I wouldn't mind seeing Cleveland Brown C.J. despoil with moribund pimp struts the pissburgh end zone several times next season.. Oh baby!!!!
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C.J. Spiller...
That is all.

I wouldn't mind seeing Cleveland Brown C.J. despoil with moribund pimp struts the pissburgh end zone several times next season.. Oh baby!!!!
I wouldn't mind seeing Cleveland Brown C.J. despoil with moribund pimp struts the pissburgh end zone several times next season.. Oh baby!!!!
Ha, hell yeah!
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Just saw this on CBSSportsline.com
02/27/2010 - "I have a lot to prove," Brown said Thursday. "I don't get talked about all the time on ESPN like those other guys because they're from big schools, and I'm from Troy. It's a great opportunity to let everybody see I can make all the throws and hopefully show I'm just as good as they are." Brown said he has talked to scouts from the Browns in Indianapolis, but he has not met with Coach Eric Mangini, team president Mike Holmgren or General Manager Tom Heckert, at least not yet. The Browns are expected to draft a quarterback with one of their 11 picks. One knock on Brown is he has a three-quarter arm delivery, and he doesn't plan to change it. "I've heard media people say it's an odd delivery and it's a problem," Brown said. "I disagree. I don't think it's a problem. The only reason it's different is it's quicker than anybody else's. "It would be a problem if I short-armed it and didn't have velocity, but that isn't the case. I think it's good because it's so quick. Hopefully everybody else agrees." Brown completed 61.7 percent of his passes in 2008 and 63.7 percent in 2009 playing in the Sun Belt Conference. - Jeff Schudel, The News-Herald
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players...w;pageContainer
Interesting.....
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players...w;pageContainer
Interesting.....
Not a big fan - Brown struggles with his sideline accuracy and lets his footwork go haywire when facing pressure. At the Texas vs. the Nation practices, he reportedly was hesitant to throw into tight windows, which raises red flags about his confidence & arm strength.
Levi's got decent tools, especially for a guy who's more of a late round prospect. But I'm not particularly optimistic about him ever becoming an NFL starter.
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Haden will be re-running that 40 at his pro day, ... he looks outstanding on the various agility drills.
It's hard to believe he runs the 40 that "slow".
Does it change his status if he runs the 4.57/4.6 at his pro day ?
I honestly don't know. But one guy covering the combine says Earl Thomas is the best safety in the draft.
We could trade down, get another 2nd round pick, and still get Earl Thomas.
Oh, THIS draft is going to get crazy.
Haden will be re-running that 40 at his pro day, ... he looks outstanding on the various agility drills.
It's hard to believe he runs the 40 that "slow".
Does it change his status if he runs the 4.57/4.6 at his pro day ?
I honestly don't know. But one guy covering the combine says Earl Thomas is the best safety in the draft.
We could trade down, get another 2nd round pick, and still get Earl Thomas.
Oh, THIS draft is going to get crazy.
I'm concerned. Yeah, Ray Lewis ran a slow 40 too, but 4.56 is reeeeeaaalllly slow for an elite corner. If he had run a 4.4 or a 4.3 he'd be our guy. The Browns will have to watch a ton of game film before they come to a decision on Hayden.
OTOH instincts can make up for lack of straight line speed, or the other way around. Got a feeling Taylor Mays' clocked 4.24 track speed makes up for lack of instincts.
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I think I'd draft Earl Thomas and play him at cb now.
Then I could draft Kam, or one of a couple of other big safeties later on.
Earl Thomas has it all. His stock is rising. I can see it now with this draft -
a lot of NFL teams will have their people sitting around their draft room,
deciding on their draft projections, and each team will be rof,l at how many
different ways it could go...
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Haden will be re-running that 40 at his pro day, ... he looks outstanding on the various agility drills.
It's hard to believe he runs the 40 that "slow".
Does it change his status if he runs the 4.57/4.6 at his pro day ?
I honestly don't know. But one guy covering the combine says Earl Thomas is the best safety in the draft.
We could trade down, get another 2nd round pick, and still get Earl Thomas.
Oh, THIS draft is going to get crazy.
I'm concerned. Yeah, Ray Lewis ran a slow 40 too, but 4.56 is reeeeeaaalllly slow for an elite corner. If he had run a 4.4 or a 4.3 he'd be our guy. The Browns will have to watch a ton of game film before they come to a decision on Hayden.
OTOH instincts can make up for lack of straight line speed, or the other way around. Got a feeling Taylor Mays' clocked 4.24 track speed makes up for lack of instincts.
I'm concerned. Yeah, Ray Lewis ran a slow 40 too, but 4.56 is reeeeeaaalllly slow for an elite corner. If he had run a 4.4 or a 4.3 he'd be our guy. The Browns will have to watch a ton of game film before they come to a decision on Hayden.
OTOH instincts can make up for lack of straight line speed, or the other way around. Got a feeling Taylor Mays' clocked 4.24 track speed makes up for lack of instincts.
i wasn't confident enough to say anything before, since i don't follow Florida nor have i seen any full games, but i wasn't overly impressed with Haden in the highlights. in fairness they were out of context but i did watch scads of them.
he looked very fundamentally sound and quick but to be taken @ #7...
in my amateur opinion i certainly couldn't tell if i was looking at a potential elite nfl CB or not. and with these 40 times? imo he's suspect at #7.
what i probably liked most was his personality. he seemed like he could fit in pretty well as a Brown from what i can tell, and although i'm skeptical i figure the coaches could scrutinize the measurements.
now i've never seen any USC games in their entirety either but having said that, Taylor Mays speed shows up on film load and clear. he obviously can't take those risks in the pros but if he can be coached up the sky's the limit for this kid.
if he has the ability to cover nfl WRs i'd like to see if they can convert him to CB first and then safety later in his career. Adrian Peterson speed at CB? he might even save a touchdown if he was deep on the play.
if they traded out of the #7 got some picks and took Mays later as our 1st pick i wouldn't complain at all.
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After seing NFL network's replay of Mays beating everybody but still getting a slower "official" time, who's to say Haden's time is even accurate?
Seriously, its probably on NFL.com. They show multiple players running the 40 simultaneously and Mays beats everybody. He even beat Best and Spiller and still got a slower time.
Again, the combine is joke.
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after seeing "locks" become "busts" year after year i just have reservations about picking in the top ten in general. missing there is truly subtraction by addition and it hurts for years. there's no sense in it when we can find good players later.
i really hope they try to get more picks--it IS a crapshoot but the more shots on goal the better chance of scoring.
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Lefevour and Tebow look like players.
gotta give tebow credit.....he wants it .......reminds me of a young Brett Favre (hint)
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