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  • V vdogrowz

    As crazy as Suh and Berry faling to us sounds with the 3 OT's available and the number of teams needing help at OT big time (Det, Wash, Sea, KC) out there, if Detroit goes OT this mock is in play

    @vdogrowz said:

    As crazy as Suh and Berry faling to us sounds with the 3 OT's available and the number of teams needing help at OT big time (Det, Wash, Sea, KC) out there, if Detroit goes OT this mock is in play

    No, that mock's just crazy. There's no way both Suh & Berry will be available at #7.

  • mopajiM mopaji

    He has the wrong surprise. The surprise will come from Washington, in my opinion...

    1. Rams - Bradford

    2. Lions - Okung

    3. Bucs - Suh

    4. Skins - Spiller

    5. Chiefs - McCoy

    6. Seahawks - Clausen

    7. Browns - Berry....if we stay.

    Detroit already picked up two DL during free agency and trade, now they are going to want to protect Stafford and that potentially lethal offense

    And Washington went defense last year and they are the type of team who gets sucked in by the "sexy pick". Portis is old and they don't have a legitemate WR on that team. It's Campbell's make or break year so they will look to get him a weapon.

    Pre-order your #29 BERRY jerseys folks!!!

    @mopaji said:

    1. Rams - Bradford

    2. Lions - Okung

    3. Bucs - Suh

    4. Skins - Spiller

    5. Chiefs - McCoy

    6. Seahawks - Clausen

    7. Browns - Berry....if we stay.

    Your Chiefs pick doesn't make much sense. They've already got two top five picks at 3-4 end; they'd have to move Dorsey before they could entertain drafting McCoy, who probably is a better fit at the position than Dorsey but still isn't ideal.

  • A Alo

    @mopaji said:

    1. Rams - Bradford

    2. Lions - Okung

    3. Bucs - Suh

    4. Skins - Spiller

    5. Chiefs - McCoy

    6. Seahawks - Clausen

    7. Browns - Berry....if we stay.

    Your Chiefs pick doesn't make much sense. They've already got two top five picks at 3-4 end; they'd have to move Dorsey before they could entertain drafting McCoy, who probably is a better fit at the position than Dorsey but still isn't ideal.

    @alo said:

    Your Chiefs pick doesn't make much sense. They've already got two top five picks at 3-4 end; they'd have to move Dorsey before they could entertain drafting McCoy, who probably is a better fit at the position than Dorsey but still isn't ideal.

    You make a good point but the reason I think they'll take him is because if he's still there, you would be silly to pass on him. He may be too good to be true at #5.

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    The GipperT 1 Reply

  • Well if you believe what Holmgren is saying pre-draft it sounds like there is no way we take Clausen. He says "I wish I liked him more".

    I think Holmgren would consider Bradford at 7 but I doubt he trades up to get him.

    I still think people are reading way too much into the Corey Williams trade for the Lions. I would like to see it, but I doubt the Lions take an OT. I say they definitely take Suh.

    6 teams passing on both Suh and Berry would be ridiculous.

  • C CLEVELandMILIDH

    this one has Suh and Berry falling to us

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d...mp;confirm=true

    nmills said:

    this one has Suh and Berry falling to us

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d...mp;confirm=true

    And mock drafter that has both Suh and Berry falling to #7 should have his computer wrested away from him.

  • mopajiM mopaji

    @alo said:

    Your Chiefs pick doesn't make much sense. They've already got two top five picks at 3-4 end; they'd have to move Dorsey before they could entertain drafting McCoy, who probably is a better fit at the position than Dorsey but still isn't ideal.

    You make a good point but the reason I think they'll take him is because if he's still there, you would be silly to pass on him. He may be too good to be true at #5.

    @mopaji said:

    You make a good point but the reason I think they'll take him is because if he's still there, you would be silly to pass on him. He may be too good to be true at #5.

    Well, if you had both McCoy and Dorsey on your DL, you would definitely be playing the 4-3.....and, theoretically, playing it quite well.

    I mean, nothing wrong with having both Rosey Grier and Merlin Olsen on your DL. Or Bob Lilly and Randy White.

    Or, maybe, these two guys.

  • The Chiefs are committed to the 3-4 (w/ Crennel as their DC). And while McCoy could play in their system, he'd be much better freed up to shoot gaps in a Tampa 2-style defense.

    Plus, the investment in their DL would be ginormous:

    Glenn Dorsey: 5 years, $33M, $22.5M guaranteed
    Tyson Jackson: 5 years, $57M, $31M guaranteed
    Gerald McCoy: somewhere in between

    And they'd still lack a true nose tackle, making adding McCoy an extremely questionable move.

    So I don't see it happening.

  • Even if these mocks are a bit off, this discussion is giving me some hope that something first-rate is going to drop to us at 7. If two teams go for OT, we should have something nice remaining.

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  • N NW Ohio Brownie

    Well then Charles Davis is wrong.

    A QB who gets drafted at #7 is going to play right away. That doesn't fit this team.

    The Browns' bigger need is an instant impact player at another position. That would be CB, S, or WR.

    That's why we'll have either Berry or Haden at #7. We will draft a QB in the 3rd round, methinks.

    @nw-ohio-brownie said:

    Well then Charles Davis is wrong.

    A QB who gets drafted at #7 is going to play right away. That doesn't fit this team.

    The Browns' bigger need is an instant impact player at another position. That would be CB, S, or WR.

    That's why we'll have either Berry or Haden at #7. We will draft a QB in the 3rd round, methinks.

    I would be surprised if chuck wipes his ass right.

    The last thing we need is a first round qb when we can't stop the run

    Couldn't stop a pass from the cheerleaders (if we had any)

    And our passing attack is $hitty at best.

    Unless Coleslaw can play both ways and make 20 td passes with 100 tackles he would be worthless to this team.

  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    I don't agree that a qb who gets drafted high has to play right away....it isn't uncommon for a guy to sit for a year....it is probably best he sits a year.

    Unlike some positions where you expect instant impact, QBs are always picks with the future in mind over instant gratification.

    @ballpeen said:

    I don't agree that a qb who gets drafted high has to play right away....it isn't uncommon for a guy to sit for a year....it is probably best he sits a year.

    Unlike some positions where you expect instant impact, QBs are always picks with the future in mind over instant gratification.

    Some times I wish the NFL would put in place a rookie salary cap sorta like the NBA.

    You have a Rookie cap on the players and pay is based on position, but the NFL owners are partially to blame for paying these guys that huge amount of money and are basically forced to play them because they have so much financially wrapped up in these guys.

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