Kiper Says Dez Bryant
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I agree to that, but that duckbill is classic.
the duckbill.
wait till draft day, he's got that greezy ass oil monster sweating and dripping into his already fogged-up glasses. talk about off-season winnings and pay days. shit. he's hoping for another dimension where the women look like troy polomolo and the men look like troy polomolo. (SP? who gives a shit). -
I wouldn't mind the pick , in terms of a high level talent pick. Clearly, anyone who's seen this kid play knows he very well could turn out to be a GREAT pro. Question is, can a team like the Browns afford to miss on a first round pick? I suppose we cannot let fear dictate what kind of moves we make BUT if we take this guy, we've got to make sure all the baggage doesn't mess up his pro career.
If Berry is gone AND they feel the need to keep this pick, i think he's potentially the best guy on the board.
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I baited some tool on another forum into leaking this mock draft.
Kiper & McShay's Mock 4.0
--------------------------Kiper-----------------------McShay
1.Rams --------------Bradford ---------------------Bradford
2.Lions -----------------Suh --------------------------Suh
3.T.B G. --------------McCoy -----------------------G.McCoy
4.Was ----------------Okung ------------------------Okung
5.K.C ---------------Eric Berry --------------------Bryan Bulaga
6.Sea ------------Trent Williams ------------------Eric Berry
7.Cle ---------------Dez Bryant -------------------Dan Williams
8.Oak ------------Jimmy Clasuen ---------------Trent Williams
9.Buf --------------Bryan Bulaga ----------------Anthony Davis
10.Jac --------------C.J Spiller -------------------Earl Thomas
11.Den ------------Earl Thomas ---------------Rolando McClain
12.Mia ------------Dan Williams ----------------Derrick Morgan
13.49ers -----------Joe Haden -------------------Sergio Kindle
14.Sea ----------Derrick Morgan ------------------C.J Spiller
15.NYG ---------Rolando McClain ----------------Mike Iupati
16.Ten ---------Jason Pierre-Paul ------------Jason Pierre-Paul
17.49ers ---------Anthony Davis ---------------Jimmy Clausen
18.Pit ----------Maurkice Pouncer -----------Maurkice Pouncer
19.Atl ----------Brandon Graham ------------Brandon Graham
20.Hou -----------Kyle Wilson --------------------Joe Haden
21.Cin ---------Jermain Gresham ---------------Dez Bryant
22.N.E -----------Sergio Kindle ----------------Everson Griffin
23.G.B -------------Mike Iupati -----------------Charles Brown
24.Phi -----------Kareem Jackson ----------------Kyle Wilson
25.Bal ---------Demaryius Thomas ----------Demaryius Thomas
26.Ari ---------Sean Weatherspoon ----------Jermain Gresham
27.Dal -----------Charles Brown -----------------Taylor Mays
28.S.D -----------Ryan Mathews ---------------Terrence Cody
29.NYJ ----------Everson Griffen ----------------Jared Odrick
30.Min ------------Taylor Mays ----------------Kareem Jackson
31.Ind -------------Jared Orick ------------------Jerry Hughes
32.N.O------------Jerry Hughes --------------Sean Weatherspoon
Kiper: I've talked to people around the league about Dez Bryant, and I can tell you the notion that there are concerns about Bryant's character is blown out of proportion. Here the Browns get the best WR in the draft, a threat they really need, and a player that, in a football environment, is a workhorse and a producer. I think K.C. will also be looking hard at Bryant at No. 5, but will ultimately pass and allow the Browns to get him.
McShay: This would be a frustrating scenario for the Browns, who should be hoping Berry falls to them at this slot. RB C.J. Spiller would be a possibility but don't count out Williams, who appears to be a reach but will garner plenty of attention over the next few picks because he's the only legitimate first-round nose tackle in this class. Finding a long-term replacement for current NT Shaun Rogers is high on the priority list, and Rogers' recent run-in with the law might only increase the urgency.
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Is McShay forgetting that we had Ahtyba Rubin playing NT for us for about half the year last year?
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Figures that Kiper has us taken Dez Bryant at #7, but McShay doesn't have him going until the Bungles take him at #21. Is there any other player who was mentioned with such disparity in either of those mocks?
Terry Pluto of the Cleveland Plain Dealer wrote:
5. NFL Draft analyst Mel Kiper predicted the Browns will take Dez Bryant in the first round. I can almost guarantee you -- remember, it's ALMOST -- that the troubled receiver from Oklahoma State won't be the pick. The Browns don't want to endure a second dance with a Braylon Edwards type.
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Bernie predicted Quinn was gonna be the guy this season days before he was shitcanned.
So............
WSS
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Zombo said:
The only guy that seemed to figure out that Quinn wasn't worth two shits was Romeo Crennel.Until Holmgren came along.
Thank God for fat, old NFL guys ... they don't fall in love with players because they look McDreamy.
Zombo
IT makes me think sometimes; RAC did not play BQ cos he knew what he saw in BQ. And all along we were hating RAC. Does anyone suppose that had RAC not been fired and we only replace the GM; we would have been as good as we are now ?
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Good grief. I generally like Kiper but don't see the Browns, and especially Mangini spending #7 on a WR with possible maturity/character issues. Sounds more like an Opie move than this regime.
I'd rather have Spiller, Haden or even Williams if you think we need to get rid of Rogers. Can never have enough good interior lineman. I think Rogers deal isn't going to be that bad.... Misdemeanor plea bargain, couple games suspension. Rubin played pretty well at NT last year anyway.
I'm hoping Berry falls to us at 7.
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Good grief. I generally like Kiper but don't see the Browns, and especially Mangini spending #7 on a WR with possible maturity/character issues. Sounds more like an Opie move than this regime.
I'd rather have Spiller, Haden or even Williams if you think we need to get rid of Rogers. Can never have enough good interior lineman. I think Rogers deal isn't going to be that bad.... Misdemeanor plea bargain, couple games suspension. Rubin played pretty well at NT last year anyway.
I'm hoping Berry falls to us at 7.
Good grief. I generally like Kiper but don't see the Browns, and especially Mangini spending #7 on a WR with possible maturity/character issues. Sounds more like an Opie move than this regime.
I'd rather have Spiller, Haden or even Williams if you think we need to get rid of Rogers. Can never have enough good interior lineman. I think Rogers deal isn't going to be that bad.... Misdemeanor plea bargain, couple games suspension. Rubin played pretty well at NT last year anyway.
I'm hoping Berry falls to us at 7.
Good post, I agree with all.
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Back in 1984 when Mel Kiper Jr. started doing analysis of the NFL draft I doubt he imagined it would get as big as it is today. The internet has made
the whole draft process a monster. The search engines light up every year around March and April with searches for Mel Kiper, NFL draft and mock drafts. With over 20 years worth of experience Mel Kiper Jr. is considered one of the leading authorities in draft analysis. But if you look at his track record is he really an NFL draft guru or just a more educated fan? We are talking about a man that predicted the 2008 Arizona Cardinals to finish dead last.
We will start off with the 1995 NFL draft where Mel Kiper Jr. felt very strongly about J.J Stokes and John Walsh. Coming out of UCLA J.J Stokes was considered by some to be the top receiver in the 1995 draft. Well Mel Kiper Jr. took it a step further and stated that he was a guaranteed All-Pro receiver and was highly critical of several teams for passing on him early on draft day. The San Francisco 49ers would end up taking the young receiver and he would play only 8 seasons and not once would he have over 800 yards in a season or make a Pro Bowl let alone gain All-Pro status.
In that same draft Mel Kiper Jr. had John Walsh projected as a 1st round pick. After running a 5.3 in the 40-yard dash and having a poor showing in throwing drills teams dropped him down the boards big time. Mel Kiper Jr. stuck to his projection and was livid on draft day when John Walsh fell all the way down to the 7th round in the draft. The young quarterback would be one and done in the NFL retiring after just one season with the Bengals.
A great deal of Mel Kiper Jr.'s problems with consistency have been with the quarterback position. For starters he said the following were all can't miss franchise quarterbacks: Alex Smith, Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, David
Carr, Joey Harrington, Andre Ware and Jeff George. He said that Akili Smith was a better prospect than Culpepper or McNabb. He also said that Ryan Leaf had the right "attitude" to give him an advantage over Peyton Manning. Then you have the whole Jay Cutler scenario where he felt that Cutler was the most overhyped player in the draft and nowhere near as good as Matt Leinart or Vince Young. Here we are three seasons later and Jay Cutler threw for over 4,500 yards and made a Pro Bowl last season while Leinart and Young watched from the sidelines.
The Detroit Lions have had numerous busts in recent drafts but most of them were rated very highly by Mel Kiper Jr. in his evaluations. He felt that Joey Harrington was a franchise quarterback, Charles Rogers was the second best player in his class and that Mike Williams was the best player in the 2005 draft and would have a Hall of Fame NFL career. Well Charles Rogers and Mike Williams are no longer even in the NFL while Joey Harrington is a career backup.
As you can see even though he is considered a NFL draft wizard his evaluations and projections have been very hit or miss. In recent drafts I have found Mike Mayock to be slightly more accurate in terms of evaluating NFL talent as his picks seem to have produced more early results. I'm sure that Mel Kiper Jr. will continue to make projections in the future but just remember to take his comments with a grain of salt.
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