Racism for Heck
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http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-h40/show
Talking about closing black/white achievement gaps in schools, or addressing the problems of the urban poor, are not reparations discussions.
Only if the way to bridge that gap is to give or take away credit from either group.
But the fact that there's no real basis for it?
Look at the list of co sponsors on HR 40.
More later.
WSS
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http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-h40/show
Talking about closing black/white achievement gaps in schools, or addressing the problems of the urban poor, are not reparations discussions.
Only if the way to bridge that gap is to give or take away credit from either group.
But the fact that there's no real basis for it?
Look at the list of co sponsors on HR 40.
More later.
WSS
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-h40/show
Talking about closing black/white achievement gaps in schools, or addressing the problems of the urban poor, are not reparations discussions.
Only if the way to bridge that gap is to give or take away credit from either group.
But the fact that there's no real basis for it?
Look at the list of co sponsors on HR 40.
More later.
WSS
Oh, my GOD!!! It's happening!
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As a brotha, I finds Hecks remarks admirabull.
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Just curious, Heck, have you read, "All Souls Day"?
At most you were probably a toddler then, but McDonald does an excellent job in defining and describing life in and around Southie. Characters like Louise Day Hicks, Dapper O'Neill, Whitey Bulger are quite present.
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I have not.
But I grew up around there. I've got friends and relatives from Southie. If you want a lesson in what white provincialism looks like, it's a nice place to start.
Common Ground is a great book about that area. Won the Pulitzer. Highly recommend.
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Very, very applicable.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-apri...010/tea-america
I know it's the daily show, but I think everyone'll appreciate it.
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I have not.
But I grew up around there. I've got friends and relatives from Southie. If you want a lesson in what white provincialism looks like, it's a nice place to start.
Common Ground is a great book about that area. Won the Pulitzer. Highly recommend.
Common Ground is a great book about that area. Won the Pulitzer. Highly recommend.
Thanks, Heck, I will check it out - the abstract looks god - and will let you know what I think.
One very fond memory of that turbulent 'Judge Garrity' era was Stevie Wonder's wonderful and heartfelt concert at the Boston Garden. Given the hightened sensitivity of that time and despite calls from the likes of Mayor Kevin White to NOT appear, Wonder thought he HAD to appear.
Coupling the political times with Wonder's masterful "Innervisions" album of that time was something I will always remember. That, and his call for calming of racial tensions and fostering relationships across all socioeconomic and ethnic groups.
Wonder was the right guy at the right place at the right time.
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Very, very applicable.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-apri...010/tea-america
I know it's the daily show, but I think everyone'll appreciate it.
Very, very applicable.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-apri...010/tea-america
I know it's the daily show, but I think everyone'll appreciate it.
Vapor, they can post all sorts of nonsense they want, day after day, from sites you've never heard of, but if you post Jon Stewart for some reason they get upset.
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I just watched that clip. I don't think it's one of his better efforts. His mugging for the camera gets old real fast.
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Steve, let me explain why I can't do anything with this. I know you're upset, but none of this makes any sense in any real discussion.
When you guys hate someone you invariably play the race card. (Not if they're not racist. "You guys" suggests we all do this. I'm pretty sure we disagree with lots of people who aren't racists.)
I don’t love me no Obama; I’m a racist. (Clearly, that's not why I think you have crude, poorly-reasoned opinions based on stereotypes that are, yes, somewhat racist.)
Lets say one of the TP guys did call somebody a N*****. (Okay...)
That’s your focus. Bingo. The entire movement is discredited. (That's not what I've said at all. In fact, I said the exact opposite. I only mentioned it because everyone on the right seems so vested in denying it. I think it's likely that it happened. I don't think it should surprise anyone.)
Of course when it happens on your side it’s no big deal. (It is? Racism is no big deal when liberals are racist? I don't agree with that either.)
Somebody suggests (like ME) that slavery Jim Crow etc shouldn’t give an entire race a free pass and immediately you toss out the racism accusation. (For one, what you're saying is a total straw man. Who suggests that blacks be given a free pass? And a free pass on what? What are you talking about? What world is this you're imagining? Secondly, that's not why I tossed out the racism accusation. Neither of your points holds.)
Even though Obama’s pal Minister Farrakhan himself is a proponent of separate but equal (does that sound like Jim Crow to you Heck?) (Obama's pal Farrakhan? You could get more childish with your guilt by association games, but you'd have to try. Obama and Farrakhan aren't friends. Their beliefs are diametrically opposed to each other. The only similarity they have is that they're both black. Apparently, to you this means they're friends.)
And you want to compare the actions of the 19th century with today? (No, I want to suggest that denying 220 years of American history and pretending we all started this race out of the same gate is sort of ridiculous. But that's what you'd like to do.)
You ready to go to war with third world countries that still have slavery? (Huh??)
I never had any slaves. (Obviously.)
No ancestor of mine in the last century had any. (Okay.)
If you feel guilty send somebody a check. (You think it's about guilt, except that it isn't.)
Lynchings in the south years ago? Terrible thing.
Take a look at the black on white crime stats today Heck.
Or black on black. That isn’t terrible? Is that justified in your fu*ked up view?
...Steve, who the hell are you arguing against? You haven't landed a single punch here. You're so angry at this cartoon you've created in your head. Obama is hanging out with Farrakhan and they want blacks to get a free pass, and guilt-ridden liberals want to help get it for them!
How long have you been holding on to these simplistic, antiquated views of the world, since the 70s? Move on, man. Nobody is there anymore.
It reminds me of Obama's criticism of Rev. Wright, when he said he's ignoring all the progress the nation is made over the last 30 years, and that his views are outdated.
I think yours are too. They're stuck in a time warp.
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Going back a few years, right out of HS, and I was listening to tv news and the radio and they were stating racism is at an alltime high, this was 1980. I was thinking to myself who the hell determined this propaganda? I attended R Nelson snider in Ft. Wayne IN. We didn't have any problems whatsoever, unlike it was while I was in Jr. high when the black folks started rioting the school because they didn't want to be bused into a white neighborhood.
IMO: Folks just want to be left alone, you cannot force desegregation, if so people will segragate themselves from others. Even during the riots there was not any animosity between the students white on black or black on white. They were ticked off at the politicians and nothing more, because everyone actually got along well and respected each other.
There is an excellent book written by Michael McDonald (sp), called "All Souls Day". It focuses on the turbulent times that I happened to live in Boston and it centered on life in South Boston (sometimes called Southie) and the attempt to institute bussing in Boston.
McDonald's statement won't come as a surprise given his political leanings and association with Professor Howard Zinn.
He stated that bussing was an experiment invented by eletists and used the poorest segments of society as pawns in this game (Southie Whites and Boston Blacks).
The book is very good and it touches on a number of facets of Boston in the early 70s. Will make you laugh and it will make you cry as he leaves a chilling picture in our minds.
There is an excellent book written by Michael McDonald (sp), called "All Souls Day". It focuses on the turbulent times that I happened to live in Boston and it centered on life in South Boston (sometimes called Southie) and the attempt to institute bussing in Boston.
McDonald's statement won't come as a surprise given his political leanings and association with Professor Howard Zinn.
He stated that bussing was an experiment invented by eletists and used the poorest segments of society as pawns in this game (Southie Whites and Boston Blacks).
The book is very good and it touches on a number of facets of Boston in the early 70s. Will make you laugh and it will make you cry as he leaves a chilling picture in our minds.
John , that sounds like a good book. I will check the bookstore this weekend and see if I can get a copy of it.
It is funny how some people hold resentment and try to play it off on others, maybe these left wingers who are spouting off all of these racist charges need to look in a mirror and take inventory of themselves.
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Uh oh.
Heck's boiling up the tar as we speak.
Somebody ex caped the Obama plantation!!!!!!
WSS
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From April 16.
We can start back.
I'm really busy today.
WSS
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This is worth watching, afterwards everyone will laugh at heck..
go to 1:20 and 1:58. hilarious. also, that black woman makes a ton of sense and clearly pays attention. a lot of people just look at the outer surface; she looks at the entire thing. i loved her comment: "i'm scared of the president because he's white." she's absolutely right. keith olberman knows nothing and has always been a douche. i hated him when he was on espn.
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HOW did I ever miss that the first time around????
THANKS, T !!!
What a great slam dunk over Heck's head.
That was the same as the tea parties I went to.
All sorts of races - that isn't the point. The point was taxes,
way, way, way too much dangerous spending into even MORE dangerous debt,
Americans coming together.
Heck wants to paint it racist, the libs want to paint it racist, paint in any negative
terms that will stick.
They are totally wrong.
All true AMERICAN HEARTS are red white and blue on the inside, doesn't matter on
the outside.
Heck, it really is time for you to sing the "I'm so sorry" song.
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