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  • sisky fringoS sisky fringo

    so, he's that enamored with beaver cleaver bradford.

    so it is. i do love that the franchise's future will be present on day-one for the offensive install at Lake Erie WCO University.

    he'll have a bright mentor well versed in the system to pop quiz at will, and a solid veteran showing him how it's done on the field. ironically, Jake has a two year contract...i can't imagine a better situation right now.

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    VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by
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    @sisky-fringo said:

    so, he's that enamored with beaver cleaver bradford.

    so it is. i do love that the franchise's future will be present on day-one for the offensive install at Lake Erie WCO University.

    he'll have a bright mentor well versed in the system to pop quiz at will, and a solid veteran showing him how it's done on the field. ironically, Jake has a two year contract...i can't imagine a better situation right now.

    Supposedly more than a few teams are and one of them (granted also a Rumor) is the Steelers. Either way the Stains will have to unload A LOT to get the number one pick in the draft. It's a bold move because as others have said on this very board, if Bradford doesn't pan out in this scenario the franchise is set back yet again.

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      This better NOT BE TRUE... why does everyone think Bradford is the best thing since sliced bread?! he was a good college qb... but not great. And he's a spread offense qb.. name me successful college qbs who ran spread offenses and are also successful in the nfl. The ONLY one (and this is a HUGE reach) would be alex smith. Stay at 7!! This would be a GREAT trade for the rams.

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      @585dawg said:

      This better NOT BE TRUE... why does everyone think Bradford is the best thing since sliced bread?! he was a good college qb... but not great. And he's a spread offense qb.. name me successful college qbs who ran spread offenses and are also successful in the nfl. The ONLY one (and this is a HUGE reach) would be alex smith. Stay at 7!! This would be a GREAT trade for the rams.

      Oh really? What about Drew Brees? He ran the spread offense in college and was successful in college and is successful in the NFL.

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        Bradford on the Browns = Tim Ouch

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        D dawgpound3 wrote on last edited by
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        Chickenwang said:

        Bradford on the Browns = Tim Ouch

        You are so wrong, man. We have a better much o-line than we did than. GTFO off this board.

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          Bradford on the Browns = Tim Ouch

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          VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by
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          Chickenwang said:

          Bradford on the Browns = Tim Ouch

          Who would have been a fine QB had he not landed with the Browns. The Browns were in a whirlwind at that point. I'd say if you transplanted a rookie Couch in to the league right now with a Browns organization on the mend you'd have a franchise QB. He just came out at the wrong time. You can't blame Couch. I also believe Bradford is legit.

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            This better NOT BE TRUE... why does everyone think Bradford is the best thing since sliced bread?! he was a good college qb... but not great. And he's a spread offense qb.. name me successful college qbs who ran spread offenses and are also successful in the nfl. The ONLY one (and this is a HUGE reach) would be alex smith. Stay at 7!! This would be a GREAT trade for the rams.

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            sisky fringoS sisky fringo wrote on last edited by sisky fringo
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            @585dawg said:

            This better NOT BE TRUE... why does everyone think Bradford is the best thing since sliced bread?! he was a good college qb... but not great. And he's a spread offense qb.. name me successful college qbs who ran spread offenses and are also successful in the nfl. The ONLY one (and this is a HUGE reach) would be alex smith. Stay at 7!! This would be a GREAT trade for the rams.
            i'd hate it too...if he sucked.

            can you imagine them trading up to #1 for anyone else than bradford? it would have to be for him.

            if true the QB guru's cred is on the line for about the 5th time in as many months.

            it's clear this new regime has no problem making a decision.

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            • Rooster DickR Rooster Dick

              Bradford on the Browns = Tim Ouch

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              D DawgTracker wrote on last edited by
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              Chickenwang said:

              Bradford on the Browns = Tim Ouch

              I respectfully disagree. This team has a strong running game and a pretty good pass blocking line. Add another receiving threat and there will be weapons to use. Plus, if the browns picked up bradford he won't be thrown in immediately, he will be given time to learn first

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              • VagitronV Vagitron

                @sisky-fringo said:

                so, he's that enamored with beaver cleaver bradford.

                so it is. i do love that the franchise's future will be present on day-one for the offensive install at Lake Erie WCO University.

                he'll have a bright mentor well versed in the system to pop quiz at will, and a solid veteran showing him how it's done on the field. ironically, Jake has a two year contract...i can't imagine a better situation right now.

                Supposedly more than a few teams are and one of them (granted also a Rumor) is the Steelers. Either way the Stains will have to unload A LOT to get the number one pick in the draft. It's a bold move because as others have said on this very board, if Bradford doesn't pan out in this scenario the franchise is set back yet again.

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                S Speedyd900rr wrote on last edited by
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                Rorbotron said:

                Supposedly more than a few teams are and one of them (granted also a Rumor) is the Steelers. Either way the Stains will have to unload A LOT to get the number one pick in the draft. It's a bold move because as others have said on this very board, if Bradford doesn't pan out in this scenario the franchise is set back yet again.

                How do you find the time to check in on the pissburgh squeelers when your always trolling this board like a rat?

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                  C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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                  Adam_Schefter The St. Louis Rams and QB Sam Bradford will not have a contract in place before the draft -- both sides' decision.

                  29 minutes ago via web

                  First time in 3 years the #1 pick wasnt signed before the draft. There leaving it open for a possible trade, I just hope it aint us. I like the draft to much to have it over before it starts lol

                  1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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                    Adam_Schefter The St. Louis Rams and QB Sam Bradford will not have a contract in place before the draft -- both sides' decision.

                    29 minutes ago via web

                    First time in 3 years the #1 pick wasnt signed before the draft. There leaving it open for a possible trade, I just hope it aint us. I like the draft to much to have it over before it starts lol

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                    D dawgpound3 wrote on last edited by
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                    nmills said:

                    Adam_Schefter The St. Louis Rams and QB Sam Bradford will not have a contract in place before the draft -- both sides' decision.

                    29 minutes ago via web

                    First time in 3 years the #1 pick wasnt signed before the draft. There leaving it open for a possible trade, I just hope it aint us. I like the draft to much to have it over before it starts lol

                    Why? Because you think we would give up too much. I doubt it. I rather have 2 great players than 6 shitty players. Get my point, capische?

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                      L LeBrent wrote on last edited by
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                      John Clayton just said virtually no chance Browns trade for Bradford.

                      I agree with him but remember he did say that there was a 100% chance Holmgren would fire Mangini.

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                        John Clayton just said virtually no chance Browns trade for Bradford.

                        I agree with him but remember he did say that there was a 100% chance Holmgren would fire Mangini.

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                        D dawgpound3 wrote on last edited by
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                        @lebrent said:

                        John Clayton just said virtually no chance Browns trade for Bradford.

                        I agree with him but remember he did say that there was a 100% chance Holmgren would fire Mangini.

                        I don't believe anything Clayton says. I go by with what Schefter says.

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                          Chickenwang said:

                          Bradford on the Browns = Tim Ouch

                          You are so wrong, man. We have a better much o-line than we did than. GTFO off this board.

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                          P playerjdd wrote on last edited by playerjdd
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                          @dawgpound3 said:

                          You are so wrong, man. We have a better much o-line than we did than. GTFO off this board.

                          No you GTFO this board. Are you the one that posted that we traded for Brandon Marshall a few weeks ago?? Dont report something that just isnt true. You should be banned for that!!!!!! Rumors are just what they are rumors!!!! There was a rumor that Big Ben was getting traded to St. Louis for 2 first round picks. Does this make it true since it was a swirling rumor?? Separate your facts for here say. Well i see you switched it to make the topic say rumor now so ill give you a little credit for that now.

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                            @dawgpound3 said:

                            You are so wrong, man. We have a better much o-line than we did than. GTFO off this board.

                            No you GTFO this board. Are you the one that posted that we traded for Brandon Marshall a few weeks ago?? Dont report something that just isnt true. You should be banned for that!!!!!! Rumors are just what they are rumors!!!! There was a rumor that Big Ben was getting traded to St. Louis for 2 first round picks. Does this make it true since it was a swirling rumor?? Separate your facts for here say. Well i see you switched it to make the topic say rumor now so ill give you a little credit for that now.

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                            D dawgpound3 wrote on last edited by
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                            @playerjdd said:

                            No you GTFO this board. Are you the one that posted that we traded for Brandon Marshall a few weeks ago?? Dont report something that just isnt true. You should be banned for that!!!!!! Rumors are just what they are rumors!!!! There was a rumor that Big Ben was getting traded to St. Louis for 2 first round picks. Does this make it true since it was a swirling rumor?? Separate your facts for here say. Well i see you switched it to make the topic say rumor now so ill give you a little credit for that now.

                            Adam Schien actually confirmed this. So It's just not a rumor.

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                              M metcalf wrote on last edited by
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                              Romeo Holgrem please pick Bradford you fat xxxx 😆

                              Jim Brown fled Cleveland and didn't have anything to do with the town or their team until he was paid money to do so. He also beat woman.
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                                P playerjdd wrote on last edited by
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                                Im saying your FOS and that this a rumor. Ill eat crow later if im wrong but even on Adam Scheins twitter it says nothing about a trade : http://twitter.com/adamschein

                                I have Espn insider and says nothing about this trade happening. Unless you have it in writing it never happened. Simple as that.

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                                  Im saying your FOS and that this a rumor. Ill eat crow later if im wrong but even on Adam Scheins twitter it says nothing about a trade : http://twitter.com/adamschein

                                  I have Espn insider and says nothing about this trade happening. Unless you have it in writing it never happened. Simple as that.

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                                  D dawgpound3 wrote on last edited by
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                                  @playerjdd said:

                                  Im saying your FOS and that this a rumor. Ill eat crow later if im wrong but even on Adam Scheins twitter it says nothing about a trade : http://twitter.com/adamschein

                                  I have Espn insider and says nothing about this trade happening. Unless you have it in writing it never happened. Simple as that.

                                  True, that is. But he said it on the show.

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                                    nmills said:

                                    Adam_Schefter The St. Louis Rams and QB Sam Bradford will not have a contract in place before the draft -- both sides' decision.

                                    29 minutes ago via web

                                    First time in 3 years the #1 pick wasnt signed before the draft. There leaving it open for a possible trade, I just hope it aint us. I like the draft to much to have it over before it starts lol

                                    Why? Because you think we would give up too much. I doubt it. I rather have 2 great players than 6 shitty players. Get my point, capische?

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                                    C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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                                    @dawgpound3 said:

                                    Why? Because you think we would give up too much. I doubt it. I rather have 2 great players than 6 shitty players. Get my point, capische?

                                    I know we would give up to much, your willing to give up our draft this year and part of next years for a QB from a conference known for great college QB's that couldnt translate into the NFL? I'd rather build a solid team and fill in with solid vet QB's untill your able to draft the ONE.

                                    Im not saying I dont like Bradford, cause I really do; but the next great pro quarterback you see from the Big 12 will be the first. Maybe Bradford will be it but Im not willing to risk 10 more years of misery to find out

                                    1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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                                      Straight from the horses(Holmgrems) mouth: http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/i...ch-for-top-pick

                                      'Mortgage the ranch' for top pick?

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                                      By Mike Sando

                                      Ricky Williams and Desmond Clark are the only active players remaining from the 1999 blockbuster trade that featured Mike Ditka trading the Saints' entire draft, plus two high future choices, for one pick.

                                      The trade came to mind after suggestions that Cleveland could have interest in acquiring the first overall pick from the Rams. I'd be surprised if the Browns gave up what it would take to land the top pick. Their entire draft is worth 2,692 points on the draft value chart. The chart probably overvalues the top choice by assigning a 3,000-point value, but even if the top pick were discounted to 2,000 points, the Browns would be giving up the seventh and 38th overall picks.

                                      The Saints gave up 1,575 points worth of 1999 picks, plus first- and third-round choices in 2000, to get the fifth overall choice in the 1999 draft from the Bears. The chart values the fifth choice at 1,700 points.

                                      The deal drew initial criticism, but the players drafted with the Saints' old picks -- Clark, LaVar Arrington, D'Wayne Bates, Cade McNown, Khari Samuel, Lloyd Harrison, Billy Miller, Nate Stimson -- didn't meet expectations in most cases.

                                      Browns president Mike Holmgren on moving up to draft quarterback Sam Bradford: "'Look it, he's a coveted young man. To be able to go up and change somebody's mind ahead of us, you'd have to mortgage the ranch. You remember when coach Ditka did that with his picks and then he went and played golf.' Absolutely, we love the player, as do a lot of people. But in the real world, we're probably going to go in a different direction there.''

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                                        This better NOT BE TRUE... why does everyone think Bradford is the best thing since sliced bread?! he was a good college qb... but not great. And he's a spread offense qb.. name me successful college qbs who ran spread offenses and are also successful in the nfl. The ONLY one (and this is a HUGE reach) would be alex smith. Stay at 7!! This would be a GREAT trade for the rams.

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                                        K K-TownBrown wrote on last edited by
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                                        @585dawg said:

                                        This better NOT BE TRUE... why does everyone think Bradford is the best thing since sliced bread?! he was a good college qb... but not great. And he's a spread offense qb.. name me successful college qbs who ran spread offenses and are also successful in the nfl. The ONLY one (and this is a HUGE reach) would be alex smith. Stay at 7!! This would be a GREAT trade for the rams.

                                        Brees, Rapeburger, and Kolb all ran the spread in college.

                                        Have you seen the Patriots in the last few years?? They essentially run a spread pass-oriented offense. I think Bradford will be just fine.

                                        You have to look at quarterbacks and project how their skill set translates into the NFL. The fact remains that Bradford has ideal height, weight (after bulking up this offseason), incredibly smart (highest Wonderlic of the QB's this year), has a big enough arm to make every NFL throw, and is very very accurate.

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                                          TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound wrote on last edited by
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                                          Well this is keeping me entertained for this evening.

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