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  • sisky fringo sisky fringoS
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    sisky fringoS sisky fringo wrote on last edited by sisky fringo
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    maybe it's normal maintenance on ours, gets packed too tight or something, or something with the heating units or however it works. or maybe they're just padding it a little so our QB can get us through the season.

    the purest in me hopes they stick with grass no matter what, to slow down fast teams and to give everyone badges of honor on their jerseys in general.

    actually ideally they'd wear brown and orange jerseys with brown pants reg season and all whites in the playoffs, so whatever. but that's just me. today. who know's how i'll feel tomorrow.

    if there's a turf that players and coaches like, that can mimic grass and not have divots, holds together well and maybe even make it a little bit softer to land on without making it spongy...who the hell am i to stand in their way.

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      @the-gipper said:

      Or, maybe they are going to install some kind of Prescription Athletic Turf, or something. Here is a list of the surfaces of every NFL stadium:

      Arizona Cardinals Ken Whisenhunt Sun Devil Stadium ('06)w/roll-out grass, retractable roof, and air conditioning. Grass

      Atlanta Falcons Mike Smith Georgia Dome ('92) Field Turf

      Baltimore Ravens John Harbaugh M&T Bank Stadium ('98) Momentum Turf

      Buffalo Bills Chan Gailey Ralph Wilson Stadium ('73) Field Turf

      Carolina Panthers John Fox Bank of America Stadium ('96) Grass

      Chicago Bears Lovie Smith Soldier Field II ('24,'03) Grass

      Cincinnati Bengals Marvin Lewis Paul Brown Stadium ('00) Field Turf

      Cleveland Browns Eric Mangini Cleve. Browns Stadium ('99) Grass (heated)

      Dallas Cowboys Wade Phillips Cowboy Stadium (2009) Synthetic turf, called Matrix

      Denver Broncos Josh McDaniels Invesco Field at Mile High '02 Grass

      Detroit Lions Jim Schwartz Ford Field '02 (Dome) Field Turf

      Green Bay Packers Mike McCarthy Lambeau Field ('57) renovated for 2003 Grass

      Houston Texans Gary Kubiak Reliant Stadium '02 Retractable roof Grass

      Indianapolis Colts Jim Caldwell Lucas Oil Stadium '08 Retractable Roof Field Turf

      Jacksonville Jaguars Jack Del Rio Alltel Stadium ('46, renov.'95) Grass

      Kansas City Chiefs Todd Haley Arrowhead Stadium ('72) Grass

      Miami Dolphins Tony Sparano Land Shark Stadium ('87) Grass

      Minnesota Vikings Brad Childress Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome ('82) Field Turf

      New England Patriots Bill Belichick Gillette Stadium '02 Field Turf

      New Orleans Saints Sean Payton Louisiana Superdome ('75) Field Turf

      NY Giants Tom Coughlin Giants Stadium ('76) new stadium GSII 2010 Field Turf

      NY Jets Rex Ryan Giants Stadium ('84) Field Turf (see above for new stadium)

      Oakland Raiders Tom Cable McAfee Coliseum ('66, renov. '96) Grass

      Philadelphia Eagles Andy Reid Lincoln Financial Field '03 Grass

      Pittsburgh Steelers Mike Tomlin Heinz Field ('01) Grass

      St. Louis Rams Steve Spagnuolo Edward Jones Dome ('95) Field Turf

      San Diego Chargers Norv Turner Qualcom Stadium ('67) Grass

      San Francisco 49ers Mike Singletary Candlestick Park ('58)(latest rename Monster Park,

      very confusing to keep up with.) Grass

      Seattle Seahawks Pete Carroll QWest Field '02 Field Turf

      Tampa Bay Buccaneers Raheem Morris Raymond James Stadium ('98) Grass

      Tennessee Titans Jeff Fisher LP Field ('99) Grass

      Washington Redskins Mike Shanahan FedEx Field ('97) Grass

      Gipper next time please specify what type of turf it is. Ie. Bermuda grass, Hybrid Kentucky Bluegrass etc. Stop slacking Gipper.

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      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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      @riffer-x said:

      Gipper next time please specify what type of turf it is. Ie. Bermuda grass, Hybrid Kentucky Bluegrass etc. Stop slacking Gipper.

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        sisky fringoS sisky fringo wrote on last edited by sisky fringo
        #17

        why won't the board allow me to use full editor? i want to "strike-through" something.

        does this happen to anyone else? i can't cut/paste in it either and it begins you typing before the person you quoted, and you basically have to go back in and edit to post?

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          chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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          Turf should be outlawed...too many acl injuries

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            @the-gipper said:

            Or, maybe they are going to install some kind of Prescription Athletic Turf, or something. Here is a list of the surfaces of every NFL stadium:

            Arizona Cardinals Ken Whisenhunt Sun Devil Stadium ('06)w/roll-out grass, retractable roof, and air conditioning. Grass

            Atlanta Falcons Mike Smith Georgia Dome ('92) Field Turf

            Baltimore Ravens John Harbaugh M&T Bank Stadium ('98) Momentum Turf

            Buffalo Bills Chan Gailey Ralph Wilson Stadium ('73) Field Turf

            Carolina Panthers John Fox Bank of America Stadium ('96) Grass

            Chicago Bears Lovie Smith Soldier Field II ('24,'03) Grass

            Cincinnati Bengals Marvin Lewis Paul Brown Stadium ('00) Field Turf

            Cleveland Browns Eric Mangini Cleve. Browns Stadium ('99) Grass (heated)

            Dallas Cowboys Wade Phillips Cowboy Stadium (2009) Synthetic turf, called Matrix

            Denver Broncos Josh McDaniels Invesco Field at Mile High '02 Grass

            Detroit Lions Jim Schwartz Ford Field '02 (Dome) Field Turf

            Green Bay Packers Mike McCarthy Lambeau Field ('57) renovated for 2003 Grass

            Houston Texans Gary Kubiak Reliant Stadium '02 Retractable roof Grass

            Indianapolis Colts Jim Caldwell Lucas Oil Stadium '08 Retractable Roof Field Turf

            Jacksonville Jaguars Jack Del Rio Alltel Stadium ('46, renov.'95) Grass

            Kansas City Chiefs Todd Haley Arrowhead Stadium ('72) Grass

            Miami Dolphins Tony Sparano Land Shark Stadium ('87) Grass

            Minnesota Vikings Brad Childress Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome ('82) Field Turf

            New England Patriots Bill Belichick Gillette Stadium '02 Field Turf

            New Orleans Saints Sean Payton Louisiana Superdome ('75) Field Turf

            NY Giants Tom Coughlin Giants Stadium ('76) new stadium GSII 2010 Field Turf

            NY Jets Rex Ryan Giants Stadium ('84) Field Turf (see above for new stadium)

            Oakland Raiders Tom Cable McAfee Coliseum ('66, renov. '96) Grass

            Philadelphia Eagles Andy Reid Lincoln Financial Field '03 Grass

            Pittsburgh Steelers Mike Tomlin Heinz Field ('01) Grass

            St. Louis Rams Steve Spagnuolo Edward Jones Dome ('95) Field Turf

            San Diego Chargers Norv Turner Qualcom Stadium ('67) Grass

            San Francisco 49ers Mike Singletary Candlestick Park ('58)(latest rename Monster Park,

            very confusing to keep up with.) Grass

            Seattle Seahawks Pete Carroll QWest Field '02 Field Turf

            Tampa Bay Buccaneers Raheem Morris Raymond James Stadium ('98) Grass

            Tennessee Titans Jeff Fisher LP Field ('99) Grass

            Washington Redskins Mike Shanahan FedEx Field ('97) Grass

            Gipper next time please specify what type of turf it is. Ie. Bermuda grass, Hybrid Kentucky Bluegrass etc. Stop slacking Gipper.

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            Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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            @riffer-x said:

            Gipper next time please specify what type of turf it is. Ie. Bermuda grass, Hybrid Kentucky Bluegrass etc. Stop slacking Gipper.

            This is a hybrid. It's a cross of Bluegrass, Kentucky Bluegrass, Featherbed Bent, and Northern California Sensimillia. The amazing stuff about this is, that you can play 36 holes on it in the afternoon, take it home and just get stoned to the bejeezus-belt that night on this stuff.

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              Turf should be outlawed...too many acl injuries

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              Riffer XR Riffer X wrote on last edited by
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              @choco said:

              Turf should be outlawed...too many acl injuries

              Turf actually means grass, but over the years has been shortened from Artificial Turf to just turf, hence people thinking turf means the synthetic stuff.

              Is a pig's ass pork?
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              • sisky fringoS sisky fringo

                why won't the board allow me to use full editor? i want to "strike-through" something.

                does this happen to anyone else? i can't cut/paste in it either and it begins you typing before the person you quoted, and you basically have to go back in and edit to post?

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                Riffer XR Riffer X wrote on last edited by
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                @sisky-fringo said:

                why won't the board allow me to use full editor? i want to "strike-through" something.

                does this happen to anyone else? i can't cut/paste in it either and it begins you typing before the person you quoted, and you basically have to go back in and edit to post?

                Just try rebooting, you may be having issues with your settings. Shouldn't be any problems, and as far as posting after the quote that is up to you to just place your cursor there and press enter before you start typing.

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                  @sisky-fringo said:

                  why won't the board allow me to use full editor? i want to "strike-through" something.

                  does this happen to anyone else? i can't cut/paste in it either and it begins you typing before the person you quoted, and you basically have to go back in and edit to post?

                  Just try rebooting, you may be having issues with your settings. Shouldn't be any problems, and as far as posting after the quote that is up to you to just place your cursor there and press enter before you start typing.

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                  sisky fringoS sisky fringo wrote on last edited by sisky fringo
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                  @riffer-x said:

                  Just try rebooting, you may be having issues with your settings. Shouldn't be any problems, and as far as posting after the quote that is up to you to just place your cursor there and press enter before you start typing.
                  thanks for replying. it's been like this for a while...maybe a couple months. i've just been living with it. even to reply to you now i have to reply blank, and go back in and edit to post.

                  the cursor is not as simple either--you cannot click on the cursor to move it at all. it's either type there (first thing upper left--even before the

                  etc) or go back in under quick editor and type then.

                  it makes a big black cursor if you try to drag it to copy something and you cannot cut/paste or do any of the functions in full edit--it's seriously jacked. i can "quick edit" in order to reply and that's it.

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                    Synthetic surface in preparation for the dome to be installed next year..

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                    @ballpeen said:

                    Synthetic surface in preparation for the dome to be installed next year..

                    maybe they will be getting that new surface like ohio state has, that makes for a very fast track. can you imagine harrison breaking it open without having to jump over potholes in the middle of the field

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                      @choco said:

                      Turf should be outlawed...too many acl injuries

                      Turf actually means grass, but over the years has been shortened from Artificial Turf to just turf, hence people thinking turf means the synthetic stuff.

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                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                      @riffer-x said:

                      Turf actually means grass, but over the years has been shortened from Artificial Turf to just turf, hence people thinking turf means the synthetic stuff.

                      Note that I don't think that anyone still uses the old "Astroturf" stuff.

                      I looked up one poll of NFL players which said that the best stadium turfs were: #1 Arizona 2. Tampa

                      The worst fields were: #1 Pittsburgh #2 Oakland

                      That is just the field. However, one site, Fanfare rated the stadiums of the NFL played in last year. I will give you the list here, but you have to take their reasoning for these ratings with a complete grain of salt. You will see when I note some of the comments. In fact, I think some complete morons must have been doing these ratings (31 stadiums because of shared Jets/Giants):

                      31. St. Louis Edward Jones Dome...didn't like domes

                      30. Atlanta Georgia Dome..didn't like domes

                      29. Washington FedEx Field

                      28. New Orleans Superdome..didn't like domes

                      27. Jacksonville Municipal Stadium

                      26. Cleveland Browns Stadium....said they rated it low "because it had too much security"??

                      25. Kansas City Arrowhead

                      24. Miami Dolphins Stadium

                      23. Oakland Alameda County Coliseum

                      22. Buffalo Ralph Wilson Stadium

                      21. Detroit Ford Field

                      20. Seattle Qwest

                      19. Arizona Univ. of Phoenix Stad.

                      18. San Diego Quallcomm Field

                      17. Baltimore Ravens Stadium...didn't like it because there wasn't much else to do there but watch the football game.!!??

                      16. Tennesse Titans Stadium

                      15. Minnesota Metrodome

                      14. Philadelphia Lincoln Field

                      13. Denver New Mile High Stad.

                      12. Chicago Soldier Field

                      11. New England Gillete Stadium

                      10. San Francisco Candlestick Park

                      9. Carolina Panther stadium

                      8. Pittsburgh Heinz Field...liked it because the Steelers have sold out a lot of consecutive games!!??

                      7. Giants Stadium....the old stadium, not the new one opening?

                      6. Green Bay Lambeau Field

                      5. Houston Reliant Stadium

                      4. Tampa Bay Raymond James Stadium

                      3. Cincinnatti Paul Brown stadium. Liked it because they had on the scoreboard an animated Tiger slashing through their opponents name and people cheered for that!!??

                      2. Dallas Cowboy Dome....liked it because it was a new dome!!

                      1. Indianapolis....liked it because it was a new dome!!

                      Note that they rated some older domes the worst because they didn't like Domes. But they put about the worst dome, the Metrodome about midway on their rankings, and rated the new domes the best because they like new domes!!??

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                        ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by ballpeen
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                        It's all subjective.....CBS is nicer than Titans stadium, and I am not being a homer here....

                        I still think we needed a dome in Cleveland.

                        First: It's goofy to sit outside when it is freezing cold.

                        Second: Outdoors actually diminishes our home field advantage....CBS doesn't hold sound all that well with gaps in the west end.

                        Third: Outdoors in the cold doesn't give any advantage except to the crappy team. Most players on the team didn't grow up anywhere near Cleveland nor played college ball anywhere near Cleveland. As we get better, outdoors in December will only play against us.

                        Fourth: We won't even get in to the economic advantages a indoor facility has over a outdoor facility. Some events won't even consider a outdoor facility while VERY few would shun a indoor facility.

                        With a retractable dome, we could still maintain a natural surface.

                        We have steam lines installed 2-3 feet below the surface that could melt off any snow by the time the dome was closed on Thursday and the game on Sunday..

                        Sure, I am southernized, but people are kidding themselves if they say they would rather sit in the wind and 15 degree temperature's over sitting in a 70 degree maintained facility......keep it at 50 if you insist on wearing a sweatshirt....I am good with that as a compromise.

                        back to my point on equalizing the field.....it helps the underdog more than anyone else.

                        If you always plan on being a underdog, then yeah, tell me I am crazy.

                        We need a roof on the stadium IMO....and I know some will disagree, but I have laid out the reality above.

                        If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                          It's all subjective.....CBS is nicer than Titans stadium, and I am not being a homer here....

                          I still think we needed a dome in Cleveland.

                          First: It's goofy to sit outside when it is freezing cold.

                          Second: Outdoors actually diminishes our home field advantage....CBS doesn't hold sound all that well with gaps in the west end.

                          Third: Outdoors in the cold doesn't give any advantage except to the crappy team. Most players on the team didn't grow up anywhere near Cleveland nor played college ball anywhere near Cleveland. As we get better, outdoors in December will only play against us.

                          Fourth: We won't even get in to the economic advantages a indoor facility has over a outdoor facility. Some events won't even consider a outdoor facility while VERY few would shun a indoor facility.

                          With a retractable dome, we could still maintain a natural surface.

                          We have steam lines installed 2-3 feet below the surface that could melt off any snow by the time the dome was closed on Thursday and the game on Sunday..

                          Sure, I am southernized, but people are kidding themselves if they say they would rather sit in the wind and 15 degree temperature's over sitting in a 70 degree maintained facility......keep it at 50 if you insist on wearing a sweatshirt....I am good with that as a compromise.

                          back to my point on equalizing the field.....it helps the underdog more than anyone else.

                          If you always plan on being a underdog, then yeah, tell me I am crazy.

                          We need a roof on the stadium IMO....and I know some will disagree, but I have laid out the reality above.

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                          Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                          @ballpeen said:

                          It's all subjective.....CBS is nicer than Titans stadium, and I am not being a homer here....

                          I still think we needed a dome in Cleveland.

                          First: It's goofy to sit outside when it is freezing cold.

                          Second: Outdoors actually diminishes our home field advantage....CBS doesn't hold sound all that well with gaps in the west end.

                          Third: Outdoors in the cold doesn't give any advantage except to the crappy team. Most players on the team didn't grow up anywhere near Cleveland nor played college ball anywhere near Cleveland. As we get better, outdoors in December will only play against us.

                          Fourth: We won't even get in to the economic advantages a indoor facility has over a outdoor facility. Some events won't even consider a outdoor facility while VERY few would shun a indoor facility.

                          With a retractable dome, we could still maintain a natural surface.

                          We have steam lines installed 2-3 feet below the surface that could melt off any snow by the time the dome was closed on Thursday and the game on Sunday..

                          Sure, I am southernized, but people are kidding themselves if they say they would rather sit in the wind and 15 degree temperature's over sitting in a 70 degree maintained facility......keep it at 50 if you insist on wearing a sweatshirt....I am good with that as a compromise.

                          back to my point on equalizing the field.....it helps the underdog more than anyone else.

                          If you always plan on being a underdog, then yeah, tell me I am crazy.

                          We need a roof on the stadium IMO....and I know some will disagree, but I have laid out the reality above.

                          What we need and what we want are two different things.

                          That's the reality. Do we need a dome, sure. Do we want a dome, not so much.

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                            @ballpeen said:

                            It's all subjective.....CBS is nicer than Titans stadium, and I am not being a homer here....

                            I still think we needed a dome in Cleveland.

                            First: It's goofy to sit outside when it is freezing cold.

                            Second: Outdoors actually diminishes our home field advantage....CBS doesn't hold sound all that well with gaps in the west end.

                            Third: Outdoors in the cold doesn't give any advantage except to the crappy team. Most players on the team didn't grow up anywhere near Cleveland nor played college ball anywhere near Cleveland. As we get better, outdoors in December will only play against us.

                            Fourth: We won't even get in to the economic advantages a indoor facility has over a outdoor facility. Some events won't even consider a outdoor facility while VERY few would shun a indoor facility.

                            With a retractable dome, we could still maintain a natural surface.

                            We have steam lines installed 2-3 feet below the surface that could melt off any snow by the time the dome was closed on Thursday and the game on Sunday..

                            Sure, I am southernized, but people are kidding themselves if they say they would rather sit in the wind and 15 degree temperature's over sitting in a 70 degree maintained facility......keep it at 50 if you insist on wearing a sweatshirt....I am good with that as a compromise.

                            back to my point on equalizing the field.....it helps the underdog more than anyone else.

                            If you always plan on being a underdog, then yeah, tell me I am crazy.

                            We need a roof on the stadium IMO....and I know some will disagree, but I have laid out the reality above.

                            What we need and what we want are two different things.

                            That's the reality. Do we need a dome, sure. Do we want a dome, not so much.

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                            @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                            What we need and what we want are two different things.

                            That's the reality. Do we need a dome, sure. Do we want a dome, not so much.

                            It all came down to money, and to a lesser extent, choice. We didn't want the old indoor/astroturf type dome, like the Metrodome or Silverdome, plus the money for that kind of dome wasn't there. And, in 1997-1999 when CBS was being buile the techology for a retractable dome was not yet perfected. (The only one being around was the Skydome in Toronto) Within a few years, yes, they started building retractable domes, like in Detroit, Houston, Seattle, plus in a number of baseball stadiums.

                            It would have been nice to have had one of those but we were a day late (or early in this case) and a dollar short.

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                              @riffer-x said:

                              Turf actually means grass, but over the years has been shortened from Artificial Turf to just turf, hence people thinking turf means the synthetic stuff.

                              Note that I don't think that anyone still uses the old "Astroturf" stuff.

                              I looked up one poll of NFL players which said that the best stadium turfs were: #1 Arizona 2. Tampa

                              The worst fields were: #1 Pittsburgh #2 Oakland

                              That is just the field. However, one site, Fanfare rated the stadiums of the NFL played in last year. I will give you the list here, but you have to take their reasoning for these ratings with a complete grain of salt. You will see when I note some of the comments. In fact, I think some complete morons must have been doing these ratings (31 stadiums because of shared Jets/Giants):

                              31. St. Louis Edward Jones Dome...didn't like domes

                              30. Atlanta Georgia Dome..didn't like domes

                              29. Washington FedEx Field

                              28. New Orleans Superdome..didn't like domes

                              27. Jacksonville Municipal Stadium

                              26. Cleveland Browns Stadium....said they rated it low "because it had too much security"??

                              25. Kansas City Arrowhead

                              24. Miami Dolphins Stadium

                              23. Oakland Alameda County Coliseum

                              22. Buffalo Ralph Wilson Stadium

                              21. Detroit Ford Field

                              20. Seattle Qwest

                              19. Arizona Univ. of Phoenix Stad.

                              18. San Diego Quallcomm Field

                              17. Baltimore Ravens Stadium...didn't like it because there wasn't much else to do there but watch the football game.!!??

                              16. Tennesse Titans Stadium

                              15. Minnesota Metrodome

                              14. Philadelphia Lincoln Field

                              13. Denver New Mile High Stad.

                              12. Chicago Soldier Field

                              11. New England Gillete Stadium

                              10. San Francisco Candlestick Park

                              9. Carolina Panther stadium

                              8. Pittsburgh Heinz Field...liked it because the Steelers have sold out a lot of consecutive games!!??

                              7. Giants Stadium....the old stadium, not the new one opening?

                              6. Green Bay Lambeau Field

                              5. Houston Reliant Stadium

                              4. Tampa Bay Raymond James Stadium

                              3. Cincinnatti Paul Brown stadium. Liked it because they had on the scoreboard an animated Tiger slashing through their opponents name and people cheered for that!!??

                              2. Dallas Cowboy Dome....liked it because it was a new dome!!

                              1. Indianapolis....liked it because it was a new dome!!

                              Note that they rated some older domes the worst because they didn't like Domes. But they put about the worst dome, the Metrodome about midway on their rankings, and rated the new domes the best because they like new domes!!??

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                              @the-gipper said:

                              Note that I don't think that anyone still uses the old "Astroturf" stuff.

                              I looked up one poll of NFL players which said that the best stadium turfs were: #1 Arizona 2. Tampa

                              The worst fields were: #1 Pittsburgh #2 Oakland

                              That is just the field. However, one site, Fanfare rated the stadiums of the NFL played in last year. I will give you the list here, but you have to take their reasoning for these ratings with a complete grain of salt. You will see when I note some of the comments. In fact, I think some complete morons must have been doing these ratings (31 stadiums because of shared Jets/Giants):

                              31. St. Louis Edward Jones Dome...didn't like domes

                              30. Atlanta Georgia Dome..didn't like domes

                              29. Washington FedEx Field

                              28. New Orleans Superdome..didn't like domes

                              27. Jacksonville Municipal Stadium

                              26. Cleveland Browns Stadium....said they rated it low "because it had too much security"??

                              25. Kansas City Arrowhead

                              24. Miami Dolphins Stadium

                              23. Oakland Alameda County Coliseum

                              22. Buffalo Ralph Wilson Stadium

                              21. Detroit Ford Field

                              20. Seattle Qwest

                              19. Arizona Univ. of Phoenix Stad.

                              18. San Diego Quallcomm Field

                              17. Baltimore Ravens Stadium...didn't like it because there wasn't much else to do there but watch the football game.!!??

                              16. Tennesse Titans Stadium

                              15. Minnesota Metrodome

                              14. Philadelphia Lincoln Field

                              13. Denver New Mile High Stad.

                              12. Chicago Soldier Field

                              11. New England Gillete Stadium

                              10. San Francisco Candlestick Park

                              9. Carolina Panther stadium

                              8. Pittsburgh Heinz Field...liked it because the Steelers have sold out a lot of consecutive games!!??

                              7. Giants Stadium....the old stadium, not the new one opening?

                              6. Green Bay Lambeau Field

                              5. Houston Reliant Stadium

                              4. Tampa Bay Raymond James Stadium

                              3. Cincinnatti Paul Brown stadium. Liked it because they had on the scoreboard an animated Tiger slashing through their opponents name and people cheered for that!!??

                              2. Dallas Cowboy Dome....liked it because it was a new dome!!

                              1. Indianapolis....liked it because it was a new dome!!

                              Note that they rated some older domes the worst because they didn't like Domes. But they put about the worst dome, the Metrodome about midway on their rankings, and rated the new domes the best because they like new domes!!??

                              I don't care for Cleveland Browns Stadium. I prefer the old stadium. It had character. History. This stadium was done cheaply as possible. Remember at first it didn't even have escalators. It could have been a great stadium if they had forked over more money and done it right. But they did it cheap, and you get what you pay for.

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                                Note that I don't think that anyone still uses the old "Astroturf" stuff.

                                I looked up one poll of NFL players which said that the best stadium turfs were: #1 Arizona 2. Tampa

                                The worst fields were: #1 Pittsburgh #2 Oakland

                                That is just the field. However, one site, Fanfare rated the stadiums of the NFL played in last year. I will give you the list here, but you have to take their reasoning for these ratings with a complete grain of salt. You will see when I note some of the comments. In fact, I think some complete morons must have been doing these ratings (31 stadiums because of shared Jets/Giants):

                                31. St. Louis Edward Jones Dome...didn't like domes

                                30. Atlanta Georgia Dome..didn't like domes

                                29. Washington FedEx Field

                                28. New Orleans Superdome..didn't like domes

                                27. Jacksonville Municipal Stadium

                                26. Cleveland Browns Stadium....said they rated it low "because it had too much security"??

                                25. Kansas City Arrowhead

                                24. Miami Dolphins Stadium

                                23. Oakland Alameda County Coliseum

                                22. Buffalo Ralph Wilson Stadium

                                21. Detroit Ford Field

                                20. Seattle Qwest

                                19. Arizona Univ. of Phoenix Stad.

                                18. San Diego Quallcomm Field

                                17. Baltimore Ravens Stadium...didn't like it because there wasn't much else to do there but watch the football game.!!??

                                16. Tennesse Titans Stadium

                                15. Minnesota Metrodome

                                14. Philadelphia Lincoln Field

                                13. Denver New Mile High Stad.

                                12. Chicago Soldier Field

                                11. New England Gillete Stadium

                                10. San Francisco Candlestick Park

                                9. Carolina Panther stadium

                                8. Pittsburgh Heinz Field...liked it because the Steelers have sold out a lot of consecutive games!!??

                                7. Giants Stadium....the old stadium, not the new one opening?

                                6. Green Bay Lambeau Field

                                5. Houston Reliant Stadium

                                4. Tampa Bay Raymond James Stadium

                                3. Cincinnatti Paul Brown stadium. Liked it because they had on the scoreboard an animated Tiger slashing through their opponents name and people cheered for that!!??

                                2. Dallas Cowboy Dome....liked it because it was a new dome!!

                                1. Indianapolis....liked it because it was a new dome!!

                                Note that they rated some older domes the worst because they didn't like Domes. But they put about the worst dome, the Metrodome about midway on their rankings, and rated the new domes the best because they like new domes!!??

                                I don't care for Cleveland Browns Stadium. I prefer the old stadium. It had character. History. This stadium was done cheaply as possible. Remember at first it didn't even have escalators. It could have been a great stadium if they had forked over more money and done it right. But they did it cheap, and you get what you pay for.

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                                @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                I don't care for Cleveland Browns Stadium. I prefer the old stadium. It had character. History. This stadium was done cheaply as possible. Remember at first it didn't even have escalators. It could have been a great stadium if they had forked over more money and done it right. But they did it cheap, and you get what you pay for.

                                Remember, they were under the gun because of the 1999 deadline, plus recall it was built with money merely from an extension of the sin tax....so there wasn't an exhorbitant amount of money available for its construction. I suspect they did about as well as they could with what they had...but to rate a stadium down because of "too much security" or to rate it up because of some cartoon that comes on the scoreboard seems ludicrous..

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                                  @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                  I don't care for Cleveland Browns Stadium. I prefer the old stadium. It had character. History. This stadium was done cheaply as possible. Remember at first it didn't even have escalators. It could have been a great stadium if they had forked over more money and done it right. But they did it cheap, and you get what you pay for.

                                  Remember, they were under the gun because of the 1999 deadline, plus recall it was built with money merely from an extension of the sin tax....so there wasn't an exhorbitant amount of money available for its construction. I suspect they did about as well as they could with what they had...but to rate a stadium down because of "too much security" or to rate it up because of some cartoon that comes on the scoreboard seems ludicrous..

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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  Remember, they were under the gun because of the 1999 deadline, plus recall it was built with money merely from an extension of the sin tax....so there wasn't an exhorbitant amount of money available for its construction. I suspect they did about as well as they could with what they had...but to rate a stadium down because of "too much security" or to rate it up because of some cartoon that comes on the scoreboard seems ludicrous..

                                  They couldn't find anything bad to say so they picked that to drop us down. Lord know's we cant have Cleveland at the top of any list. They even rate one stadium low for the same reason they rate other's high. It doesn't make sense. It's like they had a different person go to every stadium and write about it while trying to play it off like the same person went to each one.

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                                    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by ballpeen
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                                    For the record, I like our stadium, even if they forgot to put a roof on the place.

                                    The sight lines are good and the traffic flows well except for the stairwells.

                                    Concession lines can bog down, but it is that way at any stadium.

                                    I do wish they had more taps with Dortmunder...there aren't any close to my section anyway.

                                    I guess for the impossible wish...I wish when they designed these things they allowed even another 4 inches of leg room...there isn't a lot of room to maneuver around....especially if you have big winter boots on...which is about half the season since they forgot the roof.....OK...I am repeating myself. 😉

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                                      Denver's field is actually real grass with synthetic grass weaved in. The maintenance guy showed us a sign showing how it was constructed. The advantage is stronger turf during the cold or rainy months because the synthetic grass will hold the soil together; you don't get the clumps that you see on Heinz field. I'd venture that this would be ideal for CBS as well and I hope that's what they are installing.

                                      "Playing Surface

                                      The playing surface at INVESCO Field at Mile High is a 100% natural grass playing field made up of four different Kentucky Bluegrasses. The grass surface is stabilized by a network of polypropylene fibers that were sewn vertically into the sod every 3/4". This process took three weeks, with crews working 24 hours a day. This technology was developed by DD GrassMaster out of Holland, and has been used at over 100 stadiums worldwide.

                                      Underneath the sod is a sand-root zone laid above an extensive drainage and soil heating system. After heavy rain, in a matter of minutes, surface water can be drained with a strong suction system called Sub-Air. The field will be heated during the winter months by a network of 21 miles of underground hot water tubing. "

                                      http://football.ballparks.com/NFL/DenverBroncos/newindex.htm

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                                        ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                                        I know we have the heating system in place.

                                        This may be what we are aiming for.

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                                          wouldn't be suprised if they tear field up every year.

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