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Roger Goodell defends his decision to suspend Ben Roethlisberger

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  • after years of the nfl sucking the dick of the stools, you're bitching about unfair treatment?

    Cry me a river....it about time. Go whine to someone who gives a rats ass

  • after years of the nfl sucking the dick of the stools, you're bitching about unfair treatment?

    Cry me a river....it about time. Go whine to someone who gives a rats ass

    @choco said:

    after years of the nfl sucking the dick of the stools, you're bitching about unfair treatment?

    Cry me a river....it about time. Go whine to someone who gives a rats ass

    Well, atleast your admitting it's unfair...But the point of my thread is the message it send to the rest of the league - impregnate all the women you want and only pay child supposed if your team specifically gives you the money you owe.... The two statements Goodell made that I posted I agree with 100%. I just wish Goodell wouldn't pick and choose you has to follow his standards - every player should.

  • As opposed to giving him a slap on the wrist and lettong everyone know that abusong amd taking advantage of drunk college students is ok?

    Hardly unfair....cromartie did something stupid while drunk and angry. Ben, on the other, repeatedly made the calculated decision to use his entourage to run cover while he bangs drunk chicks in a public bathroom.

    Why am I not surprised you don't understand the difference. ...

  • As opposed to giving him a slap on the wrist and lettong everyone know that abusong amd taking advantage of drunk college students is ok?

    Hardly unfair....cromartie did something stupid while drunk and angry. Ben, on the other, repeatedly made the calculated decision to use his entourage to run cover while he bangs drunk chicks in a public bathroom.

    Why am I not surprised you don't understand the difference. ...

    @choco said:

    As opposed to giving him a slap on the wrist and lettong everyone know that abusong amd taking advantage of drunk college students is ok?

    Hardly unfair....cromartie did something stupid while drunk and angry. Ben, on the other, repeatedly made the calculated decision to use his entourage to run cover while he bangs drunk chicks in a public bathroom.

    Why am I not surprised you don't understand the difference. ...

    I'm not disagreeing with the 6 game suspension of Ben. I agree with Goodell's statement and a 6 game suspension sends a strong message....

    The problem is no charges were filed in either case, but both did dumb (but legal things) while drunk at a bar. How could Ben make a "calculated decison" while drunk?

    Certianly, Cromartie violated the rules according to both of Goodell's statements. If he violated the rules, why hasn't he been punished?

  • after years of the nfl sucking the dick of the stools, you're bitching about unfair treatment?

    Cry me a river....it about time. Go whine to someone who gives a rats ass

    @choco said:

    after years of the nfl sucking the dick of the stools, you're bitching about unfair treatment?

    Cry me a river....it about time. Go whine to someone who gives a rats ass

    EXACTLY! this isn't unfair treatement, ben got what he deserved. the dude is a serial sexual offender who has been doing things like this since college (and yes there are a few people with connections to miami u in ohio like rizzo that have said ben had a number of accusations that were swept under the rug by his school).

    goodell was disgusted by the details of ben's behavior from what he read in the police reports and everything surrounding that situation along with the nevada situation and the 3rd sexual assualt accusation. ben is almost 30 and is hanging out with college girls and he likes to get them drunk so he can take advantage of them. no comparison at all with cromartie. i don't see ben arguing against goodell's comments, why should anyone else?

    so in closing, cry me a freaking river, boo freaking hoo lol.

  • Sivlerback DPOY said:

    How come Antonio Cromartie has never been suspended by Goodell?

    How do you know he wasn't? In fact, I thought he was.

    @the-gipper said:

    How do you know he wasn't? In fact, I thought he was.

    I googled it and nowhere did I find anything about him ever being suspended for anything, not to specifically mention his assult with a deadly weapon incident or fathering atleast 7 kids the past 4 years to 7 different women from 5 different states. If he has, please let me know.

  • Best I can tell, cromartie is still under investigation...so presuming he won't face discipline is premature. Take it a step farther....reed supposedly assaulted a po. He's a known drunk as well who constantly is in the papers.

    Why is he still playing?

  • Best I can tell, cromartie is still under investigation...so presuming he won't face discipline is premature. Take it a step farther....reed supposedly assaulted a po. He's a known drunk as well who constantly is in the papers.

    Why is he still playing?

    @choco said:

    Best I can tell, cromartie is still under investigation...so presuming he won't face discipline is premature. Take it a step farther....reed supposedly assaulted a po. He's a known drunk as well who constantly is in the papers.

    Why is he still playing?

    Becuase Goodell is a hypocite who never punsihes players fairly. I honestly don't know how owners, coaches and players especially can respect his rediculously obvious hypocrisy.

  • Best I can tell, cromartie is still under investigation...so presuming he won't face discipline is premature. Take it a step farther....reed supposedly assaulted a po. He's a known drunk as well who constantly is in the papers.

    Why is he still playing?

    @choco said:

    Best I can tell, cromartie is still under investigation...so presuming he won't face discipline is premature.

    EXACTLY! that was my understanding, that cromartie was still under investigation. plus, how can anyone compare his situation to ben's? cromartie didn't rape women and get them pregnant. i'm not saying what cromartie is doing is right, because it isn't. all i'm saying is that his situation is totally different than ben's and is probably still under investiagtion.

    why the hell is a steeler fan asking us these questions and filing their complaints to us lol. go holla at goodell, he's the one who made the call on ben.

    btw, i'm glad bitchburgh finally got hit in the mouth. it's about time those spoiled brats get the red carpet pulled out from under them!!!

  • if it helps ya sleep at night....whatever.

    answer the question or stfu

  • @dawgpound16 said:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPol...mp;pollId=89688

    look at PA

    49% of pa. thinks it's a fair penalty, 26% think it's not enough of a penalty and 25% thinks it's too harsh of a penalty (7,023 votes).

    52% of america thinks it's a fair penalty, 27% think it's not enough of a penalty and 21% think it's too harsh of a penalty (109,215 votes).

  • @choco said:

    Best I can tell, cromartie is still under investigation...so presuming he won't face discipline is premature.

    EXACTLY! that was my understanding, that cromartie was still under investigation. plus, how can anyone compare his situation to ben's? cromartie didn't rape women and get them pregnant. i'm not saying what cromartie is doing is right, because it isn't. all i'm saying is that his situation is totally different than ben's and is probably still under investiagtion.

    why the hell is a steeler fan asking us these questions and filing their complaints to us lol. go holla at goodell, he's the one who made the call on ben.

    btw, i'm glad bitchburgh finally got hit in the mouth. it's about time those spoiled brats get the red carpet pulled out from under them!!!

    @sj_browns said:

    EXACTLY! that was my understanding, that cromartie was still under investigation. plus, how can anyone compare his situation to ben's? cromartie didn't rape women and get them pregnant. i'm not saying what cromartie is doing is right, because it isn't. all i'm saying is that his situation is totally different than ben's and is probably still under investiagtion.

    why the hell is a steeler fan asking us these questions and filing their complaints to us lol. go holla at goodell, he's the one who made the call on ben.

    btw, i'm glad bitchburgh finally got hit in the mouth. it's about time those spoiled brats get the red carpet pulled out from under them!!!

    The situation is a bit different, but look at my thread on this issue. Look at the two quotes of Goodell talking about behavior and personal responsiblity. Cromartie's action certianly fall under Goodell's statements. Why doesn't he punish accordingly?

    The atleast 6 kids in 4 years and refusal to pay child support is clear cut, not under investigation. At the very least, Goodell could meet with him and maybe suggest counseling. Instead, Goodell lets the Jets pay his child support.

  • and the spoiled brat pittsburgh boys continue their ongoing hissy fit while running around like a black and yellow chicken with it's head cut off!! 😆😆😆😆

  • if it helps ya sleep at night....whatever.

    answer the question or stfu

    @choco said:

    if it helps ya sleep at night....whatever.

    answer the question or stfu

    You STFU. eastside clevelander.

  • if it helps ya sleep at night....whatever.

    answer the question or stfu

    @choco said:

    if it helps ya sleep at night....whatever.

    answer the question or stfu

    You STFU. eastside clevelander.

  • @choco said:

    after years of the nfl sucking the dick of the stools, you're bitching about unfair treatment?

    Cry me a river....it about time. Go whine to someone who gives a rats ass

    Well, atleast your admitting it's unfair...But the point of my thread is the message it send to the rest of the league - impregnate all the women you want and only pay child supposed if your team specifically gives you the money you owe.... The two statements Goodell made that I posted I agree with 100%. I just wish Goodell wouldn't pick and choose you has to follow his standards - every player should.

    Sivlerback DPOY said:

    Well, atleast your admitting it's unfair...But the point of my thread is the message it send to the rest of the league - impregnate all the women you want and only pay child supposed if your team specifically gives you the money you owe.... The two statements Goodell made that I posted I agree with 100%. I just wish Goodell wouldn't pick and choose you has to follow his standards - every player should.

    Because having bad debt and reneging on court ordered payments is not part of the Player Conduct Policy. The policy isn't about not fathering children with women who you are currently/previously engaged in a relationship. Secondly, in many states, the child-support laws are ludicrous when considering how much the father has to pay in. Especially if the woman was "used to a particular lifestyle" that father has to continue to support that lifestyle even if he later starts earning significantly less money.

    The issue is not the same, not even close to the same, as supporting underage drinking and/or fathering children irresponsibly.

    As for the assault with a weapon while drunk. If memory serves, he did get suspended for that.

  • @choco said:

    As opposed to giving him a slap on the wrist and lettong everyone know that abusong amd taking advantage of drunk college students is ok?

    Hardly unfair....cromartie did something stupid while drunk and angry. Ben, on the other, repeatedly made the calculated decision to use his entourage to run cover while he bangs drunk chicks in a public bathroom.

    Why am I not surprised you don't understand the difference. ...

    I'm not disagreeing with the 6 game suspension of Ben. I agree with Goodell's statement and a 6 game suspension sends a strong message....

    The problem is no charges were filed in either case, but both did dumb (but legal things) while drunk at a bar. How could Ben make a "calculated decison" while drunk?

    Certianly, Cromartie violated the rules according to both of Goodell's statements. If he violated the rules, why hasn't he been punished?

    Sivlerback DPOY said:

    ... but both did dumb (but legal things) while drunk at a bar.

    You are assuming that what he did was legal simply because the prosecutor said he could not prosecute. While the legal requirement is to prove guilt, not innocence, don't use that as a platform to claim that what Ben did was legal.

    That is something that the vast majority of us will not know for certain one way or another, but my two pence is that his activity was illegal, it just didn't satisfy the burden of proof.

  • http://bleacherreport.com/articles/14043-p...-james-harrison

    the list goes on with steeler players getting away with shit. you cite one other player and claim conspiracy. how many women need to fall to angry/stupid steelers before suspension is ok in your eyes?

  • Sivlerback DPOY said:

    ... but both did dumb (but legal things) while drunk at a bar.

    You are assuming that what he did was legal simply because the prosecutor said he could not prosecute. While the legal requirement is to prove guilt, not innocence, don't use that as a platform to claim that what Ben did was legal.

    That is something that the vast majority of us will not know for certain one way or another, but my two pence is that his activity was illegal, it just didn't satisfy the burden of proof.

    @thaak said:

    You are assuming that what he did was legal simply because the prosecutor said he could not prosecute. While the legal requirement is to prove guilt, not innocence, don't use that as a platform to claim that what Ben did was legal.

    That is something that the vast majority of us will not know for certain one way or another, but my two pence is that his activity was illegal, it just didn't satisfy the burden of proof.

    If I can't use the court of law to see if someone has committed a crime, what do I use? You need proof to convict someone. You need reasonable evidence to charge someone. If a police investigation can't find reasonable evidence, most likely reasonable evidence doesn't exsist. If reasonable evidence doesn't exsist I will assume that person is innocent...But that's just me, you can call whoever you want guilty of any crime.