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  • Rorbotron said:

    Fair enough. I'm saying a 10 or 11 win season and a fight for the AFC North with the Rat birds. If Big Ben doesn't get suspended the Steelers addressed their most glaring weaknesses this off season. McFadden is back in the fold, immediate starter in Pouncey, OLB depth which coincides with a major special teams overhaul. One of the biggest problems last year.

    That must be why the Steelers drafted like 4 linebackers. To play special teams to try to stop Josh Cribbs...

    Fair to say?

    @the-gipper said:

    That must be why the Steelers drafted like 4 linebackers. To play special teams to try to stop Josh Cribbs...

    Fair to say?

    And to back up the aging Harrison and Farrior etc. We also struggled with special teams with numerous teams. I also don't need to hear about Cribbs. I went to Kent State afterall. I was there when both he and Gates were still around. Worilds is Jason Gildon 2.0 but faster and stronger. Just be ready for relentless QB pressure, especially with Troy back and healthy.

  • Same prediction as every year.

    16 and 0.

    Superbowl champs.

    Anything less it bad officiating.

    WSS

  • I think 9 wins is very attainable.

  • @TB - Win

    VS KC - Win

    @ BAL - Lose

    VS CIN - Lose

    VS ATL - Win

    @ PIT - Win

    @ NO - Lose

    VS NE - Win

    VS NYJ - Lose

    @ JAC - Win

    VS CAR - Win

    @ MIA - Lose

    @ BUF - Win

    @ CIN - Lose

    VS BAL - Win

    VS PIT - Win

    10-6

    NE is not the team they once were.......will get 3rd in their division. Same with Pitt.

  • I have no idea but I do hope Arron Goldhammer predicts us to go 0-16.

  • Alright now that the draft is done and free agency is just about over, its time for the annual prediction thread. Everyone fill one out! give comments if you wish on yours.

    1 Sun. Sep. 12 at Buccaneers 1:00 PM- WIN (Tampa is still working out the kinks under the new regime)

    2 Sun. Sep. 19 vs. Chiefs 1:00 PM- WIN (The running game proves once again too much for the Chiefs)

    3 Sun. Sep. 26 at Ravens 1:00 PM- LOSS (Ravens defense and new WR core too much for Browns)

    4 Sun. Oct. 03 vs. Bengals 1:00 PM- LOSS (Newly aquired talent mixed with the momentum of last year gets win for Bengals)

    5 Sun. Oct. 10 vs. Falcons 1:00 PM- WIN (The Browns have an amazing win % over the Falcons in history and thats not stopping here)

    6 Sun. Oct. 17 at Steelers 1:00 PM- WIN (Steelers without Big Ben in major slump)

    7 Sun. Oct. 24 at Saints 1:00 PM- LOSS (Drew Brees proves to be too much against rebuilding Browns)

    8 BYE

    9 Sun. Nov. 07 vs. Patriots 1:00 PM- LOSS (Randy Moss puts up excellent numbers as Browns lose in a rout)

    10 Sun. Nov. 14 vs. Jets 1:00 PM- WIN (Eric Mangini gets redemption against the team who fired him)

    11 Sun. Nov. 21 at Jaguars 1:00 PM- WIN (The Jaguars lose in what looks like to be their last season in Jacksonville)

    12 Sun. Nov. 28 vs. Panthers 1:00 PM- LOSS (Jake Delhomme is outmatched by Jimmy Clausen)

    13 Sun. Dec. 05 at Dolphins 1:00 PM- LOSS (Brandon Marshall burns Cleveland Browns secondary)

    14 Sun. Dec. 12 at Bills 1:00 PM- WIN (Once again, the Browns win a thriller against the Bills)

    15 Sun. Dec. 19 at Bengals 1:00 PM- WIN (The Browns learn from their mistakes to beat Bengals in key victory)

    16 Sun. Dec. 26 vs. Ravens 1:00 PM- LOSS (The Ravens are the elite team of the AFC North and are on a playoff push)

    17 Sun. Jan. 02 vs. Steelers 1:00 PM- LOSS (The Steelers look to end a disappointing season well with Big Ben back)

    AFC NORTH STANDINGS:

    1. Baltimore Ravens (12-4)

    2. Cincinnati Bengals (9-7)

    3. Cleveland Browns (8-8)

    4. Pittsburgh Steelers (6-10)

    Not a disappointing season. Maybe add a win somewhere and we would be pushing for wild card.

    Your turn!

    @theclevelandsound said:

    Alright now that the draft is done and free agency is just about over, its time for the annual prediction thread. Everyone fill one out! give comments if you wish on yours.

    1 Sun. Sep. 12 at Buccaneers 1:00 PM- WIN (Tampa is still working out the kinks under the new regime)

    2 Sun. Sep. 19 vs. Chiefs 1:00 PM- WIN (The running game proves once again too much for the Chiefs)

    3 Sun. Sep. 26 at Ravens 1:00 PM- LOSS (Ravens defense and new WR core too much for Browns)

    4 Sun. Oct. 03 vs. Bengals 1:00 PM- LOSS (Newly aquired talent mixed with the momentum of last year gets win for Bengals)

    5 Sun. Oct. 10 vs. Falcons 1:00 PM- WIN (The Browns have an amazing win % over the Falcons in history and thats not stopping here)

    6 Sun. Oct. 17 at Steelers 1:00 PM- WIN (Steelers without Big Ben in major slump)

    7 Sun. Oct. 24 at Saints 1:00 PM- LOSS (Drew Brees proves to be too much against rebuilding Browns)

    8 BYE

    9 Sun. Nov. 07 vs. Patriots 1:00 PM- LOSS (Randy Moss puts up excellent numbers as Browns lose in a rout)

    10 Sun. Nov. 14 vs. Jets 1:00 PM- WIN (Eric Mangini gets redemption against the team who fired him)

    11 Sun. Nov. 21 at Jaguars 1:00 PM- WIN (The Jaguars lose in what looks like to be their last season in Jacksonville)

    12 Sun. Nov. 28 vs. Panthers 1:00 PM- LOSS (Jake Delhomme is outmatched by Jimmy Clausen)

    13 Sun. Dec. 05 at Dolphins 1:00 PM- LOSS (Brandon Marshall burns Cleveland Browns secondary)

    14 Sun. Dec. 12 at Bills 1:00 PM- WIN (Once again, the Browns win a thriller against the Bills)

    15 Sun. Dec. 19 at Bengals 1:00 PM- WIN (The Browns learn from their mistakes to beat Bengals in key victory)

    16 Sun. Dec. 26 vs. Ravens 1:00 PM- LOSS (The Ravens are the elite team of the AFC North and are on a playoff push)

    17 Sun. Jan. 02 vs. Steelers 1:00 PM- LOSS (The Steelers look to end a disappointing season well with Big Ben back)

    AFC NORTH STANDINGS:

    1. Baltimore Ravens (12-4)

    2. Cincinnati Bengals (9-7)

    3. Cleveland Browns (8-8)

    4. Pittsburgh Steelers (6-10)

    Not a disappointing season. Maybe add a win somewhere and we would be pushing for wild card.

    Your turn!

    Just hold your waaaad, now..

    at best a 4 win season...3 is more likely

    3-13 is the way I see it...Beat Chiefs, Panthers, and Bills....

    The rest of that schedule is killer......

    Not drafting any skilled positions high is gonna hurt real bad.....

    Marginal RB's

    below ...way below average WR's

    nothing TE...

    who's gonna score?????? those Defensive backs they drafted??

    it's another long 3 and 13 season......sorry!! 🙁

  • G gmp

    @theclevelandsound said:

    Alright now that the draft is done and free agency is just about over, its time for the annual prediction thread. Everyone fill one out! give comments if you wish on yours.

    1 Sun. Sep. 12 at Buccaneers 1:00 PM- WIN (Tampa is still working out the kinks under the new regime)

    2 Sun. Sep. 19 vs. Chiefs 1:00 PM- WIN (The running game proves once again too much for the Chiefs)

    3 Sun. Sep. 26 at Ravens 1:00 PM- LOSS (Ravens defense and new WR core too much for Browns)

    4 Sun. Oct. 03 vs. Bengals 1:00 PM- LOSS (Newly aquired talent mixed with the momentum of last year gets win for Bengals)

    5 Sun. Oct. 10 vs. Falcons 1:00 PM- WIN (The Browns have an amazing win % over the Falcons in history and thats not stopping here)

    6 Sun. Oct. 17 at Steelers 1:00 PM- WIN (Steelers without Big Ben in major slump)

    7 Sun. Oct. 24 at Saints 1:00 PM- LOSS (Drew Brees proves to be too much against rebuilding Browns)

    8 BYE

    9 Sun. Nov. 07 vs. Patriots 1:00 PM- LOSS (Randy Moss puts up excellent numbers as Browns lose in a rout)

    10 Sun. Nov. 14 vs. Jets 1:00 PM- WIN (Eric Mangini gets redemption against the team who fired him)

    11 Sun. Nov. 21 at Jaguars 1:00 PM- WIN (The Jaguars lose in what looks like to be their last season in Jacksonville)

    12 Sun. Nov. 28 vs. Panthers 1:00 PM- LOSS (Jake Delhomme is outmatched by Jimmy Clausen)

    13 Sun. Dec. 05 at Dolphins 1:00 PM- LOSS (Brandon Marshall burns Cleveland Browns secondary)

    14 Sun. Dec. 12 at Bills 1:00 PM- WIN (Once again, the Browns win a thriller against the Bills)

    15 Sun. Dec. 19 at Bengals 1:00 PM- WIN (The Browns learn from their mistakes to beat Bengals in key victory)

    16 Sun. Dec. 26 vs. Ravens 1:00 PM- LOSS (The Ravens are the elite team of the AFC North and are on a playoff push)

    17 Sun. Jan. 02 vs. Steelers 1:00 PM- LOSS (The Steelers look to end a disappointing season well with Big Ben back)

    AFC NORTH STANDINGS:

    1. Baltimore Ravens (12-4)

    2. Cincinnati Bengals (9-7)

    3. Cleveland Browns (8-8)

    4. Pittsburgh Steelers (6-10)

    Not a disappointing season. Maybe add a win somewhere and we would be pushing for wild card.

    Your turn!

    Just hold your waaaad, now..

    at best a 4 win season...3 is more likely

    3-13 is the way I see it...Beat Chiefs, Panthers, and Bills....

    The rest of that schedule is killer......

    Not drafting any skilled positions high is gonna hurt real bad.....

    Marginal RB's

    below ...way below average WR's

    nothing TE...

    who's gonna score?????? those Defensive backs they drafted??

    it's another long 3 and 13 season......sorry!! 🙁

    @gmp said:

    Just hold your waaaad, now..

    at best a 4 win season...3 is more likely

    3-13 is the way I see it...Beat Chiefs, Panthers, and Bills....

    The rest of that schedule is killer......

    Not drafting any skilled positions high is gonna hurt real bad.....

    Marginal RB's

    below ...way below average WR's

    nothing TE...

    who's gonna score?????? those Defensive backs they drafted??

    it's another long 3 and 13 season......sorry!! 🙁

    hahah you're probably a troll.

    Marginal RBs? Jerome Harrison is far from marginal, anyone who gets the 4th most rushing yards in a game, in the history of the NFL and breaks Jim Brown's franchise record for it, is far from "marginal". Hardesty looks like a solid tough runner, and then there's Hillis for some more depth.

    I agree with you about the WRs, that is the weakest position right now, they should sign an FA WR, but I do like the potential of Mitchell(played in a run first offense with a scrambling QB).

    Nothing TE?? You ever hear of that guy Benjamin Watson we signed? Very solid receiving as well as blocking TE, and then there's Evan Moore for depth.

    The Browns are a FA WR signing away from having a winning record (T.O!!!!).

  • @gmp said:

    Just hold your waaaad, now..

    at best a 4 win season...3 is more likely

    3-13 is the way I see it...Beat Chiefs, Panthers, and Bills....

    The rest of that schedule is killer......

    Not drafting any skilled positions high is gonna hurt real bad.....

    Marginal RB's

    below ...way below average WR's

    nothing TE...

    who's gonna score?????? those Defensive backs they drafted??

    it's another long 3 and 13 season......sorry!! 🙁

    hahah you're probably a troll.

    Marginal RBs? Jerome Harrison is far from marginal, anyone who gets the 4th most rushing yards in a game, in the history of the NFL and breaks Jim Brown's franchise record for it, is far from "marginal". Hardesty looks like a solid tough runner, and then there's Hillis for some more depth.

    I agree with you about the WRs, that is the weakest position right now, they should sign an FA WR, but I do like the potential of Mitchell(played in a run first offense with a scrambling QB).

    Nothing TE?? You ever hear of that guy Benjamin Watson we signed? Very solid receiving as well as blocking TE, and then there's Evan Moore for depth.

    The Browns are a FA WR signing away from having a winning record (T.O!!!!).

    @beefjerky said:

    hahah you're probably a troll.

    Marginal RBs? Jerome Harrison is far from marginal, anyone who gets the 4th most rushing yards in a game, in the history of the NFL and breaks Jim Brown's franchise record for it, is far from "marginal". Hardesty looks like a solid tough runner, and then there's Hillis for some more depth.

    I agree with you about the WRs, that is the weakest position right now, they should sign an FA WR, but I do like the potential of Mitchell(played in a run first offense with a scrambling QB).

    Nothing TE?? You ever hear of that guy Benjamin Watson we signed? Very solid receiving as well as blocking TE, and then there's Evan Moore for depth.

    The Browns are a FA WR signing away from having a winning record (T.O!!!!).

    Jerome Harrison, had that (1) ...great game..can he have a great season this year...I hope so...but they need more in the backfield...If he goes down...who is there????...so the jury is still out on what he can bring...

    Ben Watson...?????????40 year old Ben Watson...Wasn't he catching balls for Jim Plunkett back when? Go to a fantasy Draft and see how long it takes a Ben Watson to get drafted on a fantasy team....bring your sleeping bag...!

    T.O???????..well how'd that work out in Buffalo??.....would be a nice addtion to a Ravens, Patriots, kind of team..but not in Cleveland...

    I admire all the positive talk of wins this year...but really?...look at that schedule...I can only see 4 wins tops on that...

    I think next year 2012, will be an 8 and 8 year...the slow climb will begin then.......

    Looks like another year of yardwork at 1pm Sundays 😡

  • G gmp

    @beefjerky said:

    hahah you're probably a troll.

    Marginal RBs? Jerome Harrison is far from marginal, anyone who gets the 4th most rushing yards in a game, in the history of the NFL and breaks Jim Brown's franchise record for it, is far from "marginal". Hardesty looks like a solid tough runner, and then there's Hillis for some more depth.

    I agree with you about the WRs, that is the weakest position right now, they should sign an FA WR, but I do like the potential of Mitchell(played in a run first offense with a scrambling QB).

    Nothing TE?? You ever hear of that guy Benjamin Watson we signed? Very solid receiving as well as blocking TE, and then there's Evan Moore for depth.

    The Browns are a FA WR signing away from having a winning record (T.O!!!!).

    Jerome Harrison, had that (1) ...great game..can he have a great season this year...I hope so...but they need more in the backfield...If he goes down...who is there????...so the jury is still out on what he can bring...

    Ben Watson...?????????40 year old Ben Watson...Wasn't he catching balls for Jim Plunkett back when? Go to a fantasy Draft and see how long it takes a Ben Watson to get drafted on a fantasy team....bring your sleeping bag...!

    T.O???????..well how'd that work out in Buffalo??.....would be a nice addtion to a Ravens, Patriots, kind of team..but not in Cleveland...

    I admire all the positive talk of wins this year...but really?...look at that schedule...I can only see 4 wins tops on that...

    I think next year 2012, will be an 8 and 8 year...the slow climb will begin then.......

    Looks like another year of yardwork at 1pm Sundays 😡

    @gmp said:

    Jerome Harrison, had that (1) ...great game..can he have a great season this year...I hope so...but they need more in the backfield...If he goes down...who is there????...so the jury is still out on what he can bring...

    Ben Watson...?????????40 year old Ben Watson...Wasn't he catching balls for Jim Plunkett back when? Go to a fantasy Draft and see how long it takes a Ben Watson to get drafted on a fantasy team....bring your sleeping bag...!

    T.O???????..well how'd that work out in Buffalo??.....would be a nice addtion to a Ravens, Patriots, kind of team..but not in Cleveland...

    I admire all the positive talk of wins this year...but really?...look at that schedule...I can only see 4 wins tops on that...

    I think next year 2012, will be an 8 and 8 year...the slow climb will begin then.......

    Looks like another year of yardwork at 1pm Sundays 😡

    Finally a honest assessment and a realistic one. Believe me when I say this I want the AFC North to be the strongest division in football and it's damn close. I don't want the Browns to be a speed bump year after year save for your "franchise turn around victory" last season against the Steelers. It was bound to happen sooner or later after all these years. Anyway and for the real reason I'm posting in response to the above two posts is Jerome Harrison. He rushed for a bunch of yards in a few games. He's no different than Darrell Green of the Redskins at this current juncture and that's a fact. My suggestion is before anyone starts annointing him the next Barry Sanders he should probably put together a 16 game season of what he did towards the tail end of last season. He's a scat back that won't hold up if you ask me but I guess we'll see.

    Oh and everyone needs to ask Montario how he's dealt with Worilds in the past or any RB for that matter. Supposedly he never allowed a rushing TD while being DE for the Hokies.

  • 5-7 Wins

  • @gmp said:

    Just hold your waaaad, now..

    at best a 4 win season...3 is more likely

    3-13 is the way I see it...Beat Chiefs, Panthers, and Bills....

    The rest of that schedule is killer......

    Not drafting any skilled positions high is gonna hurt real bad.....

    Marginal RB's

    below ...way below average WR's

    nothing TE...

    who's gonna score?????? those Defensive backs they drafted??

    it's another long 3 and 13 season......sorry!! 🙁

    hahah you're probably a troll.

    Marginal RBs? Jerome Harrison is far from marginal, anyone who gets the 4th most rushing yards in a game, in the history of the NFL and breaks Jim Brown's franchise record for it, is far from "marginal". Hardesty looks like a solid tough runner, and then there's Hillis for some more depth.

    I agree with you about the WRs, that is the weakest position right now, they should sign an FA WR, but I do like the potential of Mitchell(played in a run first offense with a scrambling QB).

    Nothing TE?? You ever hear of that guy Benjamin Watson we signed? Very solid receiving as well as blocking TE, and then there's Evan Moore for depth.

    The Browns are a FA WR signing away from having a winning record (T.O!!!!).

    @beefjerky said:

    hahah you're probably a troll.

    Marginal RBs? Jerome Harrison is far from marginal, anyone who gets the 4th most rushing yards in a game, in the history of the NFL and breaks Jim Brown's franchise record for it, is far from "marginal". Hardesty looks like a solid tough runner, and then there's Hillis for some more depth.

    I agree with you about the WRs, that is the weakest position right now, they should sign an FA WR, but I do like the potential of Mitchell(played in a run first offense with a scrambling QB).

    Nothing TE?? You ever hear of that guy Benjamin Watson we signed? Very solid receiving as well as blocking TE, and then there's Evan Moore for depth.

    The Browns are a FA WR signing away from having a winning record (T.O!!!!).

    Gimp rarely has anything to say except negative things. I don't think he is a Browns fan. Just some lonely troll who found this board and attached himself to it. Kind of like a blood sucker attaches itself to you.

  • I'm going with 6-10. I think we still have too many holes to secure, and we still have to prove that we can stay healthy. I think the WR position has me most down as I'm just not as sold as others. I really hope our defense steps up a notch or five and our run game can pound it ... and hope Jake plays well enough to lead the young receivers to some positive growth.

    If Josh Cribbs win's two, we might win 7.

    Not a lot of big hopes from me this year, just looking for solid consistient play to build on.

  • 1 Sun. Sep. 12 at Buccaneers 1:00 PM- Win

    2 Sun. Sep. 19 vs. Chiefs 1:00 PM- Win

    3 Sun. Sep. 26 at Ravens 1:00 PM- Lose

    4 Sun. Oct. 03 vs. Bengals 1:00 PM- Win

    5 Sun. Oct. 10 vs. Falcons 1:00 PM- Win

    6 Sun. Oct. 17 at Steelers 1:00 PM- Win

    7 Sun. Oct. 24 at Saints 1:00 PM- Lose

    8 BYE

    9 Sun. Nov. 07 vs. Patriots 1:00 PM- Lose

    10 Sun. Nov. 14 vs. Jets 1:00 PM- Win

    11 Sun. Nov. 21 at Jaguars 1:00 PM- Win

    12 Sun. Nov. 28 vs. Panthers 1:00 PM- Win

    13 Sun. Dec. 05 at Dolphins 1:00 PM- Win

    14 Sun. Dec. 12 at Bills 1:00 PM- Win

    15 Sun. Dec. 19 at Bengals 1:00 PM- Lose

    16 Sun. Dec. 26 vs. Ravens 1:00 PM- Lose

    17 Sun. Jan. 02 vs. Steelers 1:00 PM-Win

    11-5 AFC Wildcard - I am seeing our TE's being the key in our passing game this year as still unsure of our young receivers, look for one of our TE's to get over 1000 yds recieving

  • @beefjerky said:

    hahah you're probably a troll.

    Marginal RBs? Jerome Harrison is far from marginal, anyone who gets the 4th most rushing yards in a game, in the history of the NFL and breaks Jim Brown's franchise record for it, is far from "marginal". Hardesty looks like a solid tough runner, and then there's Hillis for some more depth.

    I agree with you about the WRs, that is the weakest position right now, they should sign an FA WR, but I do like the potential of Mitchell(played in a run first offense with a scrambling QB).

    Nothing TE?? You ever hear of that guy Benjamin Watson we signed? Very solid receiving as well as blocking TE, and then there's Evan Moore for depth.

    The Browns are a FA WR signing away from having a winning record (T.O!!!!).

    Gimp rarely has anything to say except negative things. I don't think he is a Browns fan. Just some lonely troll who found this board and attached himself to it. Kind of like a blood sucker attaches itself to you.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Gimp rarely has anything to say except negative things. I don't think he is a Browns fan. Just some lonely troll who found this board and attached himself to it. Kind of like a blood sucker attaches itself to you.

    No, No, No....

    I just try to tell it like it is.....Do you see games on this schedule that I'm not looking at?....

    Do you see wins in Pitts, Balt, NO NE Jets, Falcons, and on and on?...

    If you do..then you my friend are the one who is not looking at this football team with reality.....

    I applaud your optimism, but the bottom line is...read my previous post about what they have and who they drafted, and you'll soon see things my way.....

    Spoken like the true Gimpster. 😒

  • 1 Sun. Sep. 12 at Buccaneers 1:00 PM- W

    2 Sun. Sep. 19 vs. Chiefs 1:00 PM- W

    3 Sun. Sep. 26 at Ravens 1:00 PM- L

    4 Sun. Oct. 03 vs. Bengals 1:00 PM- W

    5 Sun. Oct. 10 vs. Falcons 1:00 PM- L

    6 Sun. Oct. 17 at Steelers 1:00 PM- W

    7 Sun. Oct. 24 at Saints 1:00 PM- L

    8 BYE

    9 Sun. Nov. 07 vs. Patriots 1:00 PM- L

    10 Sun. Nov. 14 vs. Jets 1:00 PM- L

    11 Sun. Nov. 21 at Jaguars 1:00 PM- W

    12 Sun. Nov. 28 vs. Panthers 1:00 PM- W

    13 Sun. Dec. 05 at Dolphins 1:00 PM- L

    14 Sun. Dec. 12 at Bills 1:00 PM- W

    15 Sun. Dec. 19 at Bengals 1:00 PM- W

    16 Sun. Dec. 26 vs. Ravens 1:00 PM- L

    17 Sun. Jan. 02 vs. Steelers 1:00 PM-W

    9-7

  • Mangini and co. need more time to get things running smoothly. I'm expecting we win 2 games in the division and about 4 outside the division, so 6-10. I'll be ok with that because I think it takes time to come back from those dark days of Crennel's last year.

  • 9-7...

    And did someone teally say that fantasy drafting slot is an indicator of success?

    Wow...how Retarded can one be....no offense to anyone with a mental handicap

  • 9-7...

    And did someone teally say that fantasy drafting slot is an indicator of success?

    Wow...how Retarded can one be....no offense to anyone with a mental handicap

    @choco said:

    9-7...

    And did someone teally say that fantasy drafting slot is an indicator of success?

    Wow...how Retarded can one be....no offense to anyone with a mental handicap

    Look at his stats. If we're talking from a purely numbers stand point the fantasy football correlation is very relevant. Fact of the matter is Ben Watson even when the Pats didn't have Randy Moss didn't put up gody numbers. His first full season was last year and his role was pretty minimal. He also didn't catch on until the tail end. The most grabs he's had as a TE happened in 2006 when I believe he had around 50 grabs for roughly 600 yards. Low TD numbers. I don't know who you think you have in Watson. He's certainly a athlete with some wheels but he's lost a step. Who knows he may put up solid numbers in the Stains offense if he's the focal point but he's not Gates, Gonzo etc. He's a mid range TE the Patriots were happy to unload. If I'm being honest look over the supposed starting roster for the Browns this year. How many of those guys were even drafted by Cleveland? Not many. You build through the draft fellas. You haven't exactly done a great job in that department until this year SOOO maybe it's a sign of things to come. Until then it's a patch work roster plenty are begging for a 8-8 or better record. Something I sincerely doubt occurs. If i'm being honest.

  • since you don't know, there's more to this game than numbers. Simpletons like youraelf can only fathom a single measurong stick to evaluate the player....

    Like the 50+ sacks that horrible ol of yours gave up right? Oh bit its the stools, so you try to be objective. So which is it?

  • since you don't know, there's more to this game than numbers. Simpletons like youraelf can only fathom a single measurong stick to evaluate the player....

    Like the 50+ sacks that horrible ol of yours gave up right? Oh bit its the stools, so you try to be objective. So which is it?

    @choco said:

    since you don't know, there's more to this game than numbers. Simpletons like youraelf can only fathom a single measurong stick to evaluate the player....

    Like the 50+ sacks that horrible ol of yours gave up right? Oh bit its the stools, so you try to be objective. So which is it?

    Ben Watson doesn't block so no there isn't. I'm also readily aware there is more to the game of football than just numbers. Look at Heath Miller one of the best tight ends in the league. Last season was the first season he was actually used to a greater capacity in the air attack. Soo no Ben Watson is just numbers and they are numbers he hasn't been putting up. Dude doesn't block.