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  • beefjerky B
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    B beefjerky wrote on last edited by
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    "At least some of them have stayed away from the off-season program. The RFAs include D'Qwell Jackson, Jerome Harrison, Lawrence Vickers, Abe Elam and Matt Roth."

    If I had to pick 3 to re-sign out of those, it would be Jerome Harrison, Matt Roth, and Lawrence Vickers.

    D'Qwell is good but Maiava played just as good as he did after he went down to injury, so we don't necessarily need him, but I'm sure he'd be good on another team.

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      GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by Gips
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      Ratty is a mangini pet and from what we saw of ratty last year and based on the 2 QBs we already sent packing ratty shouldnt even be in the nfl to begin with beyond camp, between pet elam ,pet bowden and pet ratty it really gives me a deja vu feeling about mangini as a suspect evaluator of both talent and good decision making..i may have a hard time trusting or believing in many of his upcoming judgements and decisions...im really in a show me the money kind of mindset with him right now...he himself hasnt proven to the fans or his bosses that he has what it takes yet...and after last season he is very fortunate to have a chance at all...

      As far as wanting to keep 4 QBs and developing both colt and ratliff at the same time are both in my mind the absurd type of babble i have grown to expect out of eric mangini honestly ...having to part with ratty will just be to hard to bare so we will leave his sucky arse leaching the bench and distracting from the development of a guy who could seriously be a starting qb....

      We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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        mopajiM mopaji wrote on last edited by
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        So Mangini never says always or never which basically means nothing, and Kabot writes an article suggesting that means Colt will play? I guess the best way to get Mary Kay on your nuts is to be someone's backup.

        "Chances are, if you think Jay Leno is funny, I don't care for you as a person" - Peter Griffin
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          Ratty is a mangini pet and from what we saw of ratty last year and based on the 2 QBs we already sent packing ratty shouldnt even be in the nfl to begin with beyond camp, between pet elam ,pet bowden and pet ratty it really gives me a deja vu feeling about mangini as a suspect evaluator of both talent and good decision making..i may have a hard time trusting or believing in many of his upcoming judgements and decisions...im really in a show me the money kind of mindset with him right now...he himself hasnt proven to the fans or his bosses that he has what it takes yet...and after last season he is very fortunate to have a chance at all...

          As far as wanting to keep 4 QBs and developing both colt and ratliff at the same time are both in my mind the absurd type of babble i have grown to expect out of eric mangini honestly ...having to part with ratty will just be to hard to bare so we will leave his sucky arse leaching the bench and distracting from the development of a guy who could seriously be a starting qb....

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          B Bag O'Browns wrote on last edited by
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          @gips said:

          Ratty is a mangini pet and from what we saw of ratty last year and based on the 2 QBs we already sent packing ratty shouldnt even be in the nfl to begin with beyond camp, between pet elam ,pet bowden and pet ratty it really gives me a deja vu feeling about mangini as a suspect evaluator of both talent and good decision making..i may have a hard time trusting or believing in many of his upcoming judgements and decisions...im really in a show me the money kind of mindset with him right now...he himself hasnt proven to the fans or his bosses that he has what it takes yet...and after last season he is very fortunate to have a chance at all...

          As far as wanting to keep 4 QBs and developing both colt and ratliff at the same time are both in my mind the absurd type of babble i have grown to expect out of eric mangini honestly ...having to part with ratty will just be to hard to bare so we will leave his sucky arse leaching the bench and distracting from the development of a guy who could seriously be a starting qb....

          I don't think Ratliff is without talent, his arm clearly is NFL caliber. What he's showed us a Browns fans though is basically glimpses of a less good Derek Anderson. Elam also isn't a bad player and in my estimation, surrounding him with other guys who can play will help him out. Bowden is a guy who is a stop gap player all the way. He's getting up there BUT is a NFL LB all the way. What i'm saying is, for the most part these guys can play or in Ratliff's case, show something worth taking a look-see at. Mangini though is FAR from the only coach who does this, most any coach does.

          In order to appreciate the top you have to spend some time at the bottom.
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            @gips said:

            Ratty is a mangini pet and from what we saw of ratty last year and based on the 2 QBs we already sent packing ratty shouldnt even be in the nfl to begin with beyond camp, between pet elam ,pet bowden and pet ratty it really gives me a deja vu feeling about mangini as a suspect evaluator of both talent and good decision making..i may have a hard time trusting or believing in many of his upcoming judgements and decisions...im really in a show me the money kind of mindset with him right now...he himself hasnt proven to the fans or his bosses that he has what it takes yet...and after last season he is very fortunate to have a chance at all...

            As far as wanting to keep 4 QBs and developing both colt and ratliff at the same time are both in my mind the absurd type of babble i have grown to expect out of eric mangini honestly ...having to part with ratty will just be to hard to bare so we will leave his sucky arse leaching the bench and distracting from the development of a guy who could seriously be a starting qb....

            I don't think Ratliff is without talent, his arm clearly is NFL caliber. What he's showed us a Browns fans though is basically glimpses of a less good Derek Anderson. Elam also isn't a bad player and in my estimation, surrounding him with other guys who can play will help him out. Bowden is a guy who is a stop gap player all the way. He's getting up there BUT is a NFL LB all the way. What i'm saying is, for the most part these guys can play or in Ratliff's case, show something worth taking a look-see at. Mangini though is FAR from the only coach who does this, most any coach does.

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            H Hoss wrote on last edited by
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            @bag-o-browns said:

            glimpses of a less good Derek Anderson.

            Whoa. Wait....is.....is that even possible?? 😁

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              @bag-o-browns said:

              glimpses of a less good Derek Anderson.

              Whoa. Wait....is.....is that even possible?? 😁

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              B Bag O'Browns wrote on last edited by
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              @hoss said:

              Whoa. Wait....is.....is that even possible?? 😁

              Ok, a less good version of what DA should be? (circa 2007) Or, perhaps better said, a kid with a big arm who doesn't put the ball where it is needed at points in times.

              In order to appreciate the top you have to spend some time at the bottom.
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                @gips said:

                Ratty is a mangini pet and from what we saw of ratty last year and based on the 2 QBs we already sent packing ratty shouldnt even be in the nfl to begin with beyond camp, between pet elam ,pet bowden and pet ratty it really gives me a deja vu feeling about mangini as a suspect evaluator of both talent and good decision making..i may have a hard time trusting or believing in many of his upcoming judgements and decisions...im really in a show me the money kind of mindset with him right now...he himself hasnt proven to the fans or his bosses that he has what it takes yet...and after last season he is very fortunate to have a chance at all...

                As far as wanting to keep 4 QBs and developing both colt and ratliff at the same time are both in my mind the absurd type of babble i have grown to expect out of eric mangini honestly ...having to part with ratty will just be to hard to bare so we will leave his sucky arse leaching the bench and distracting from the development of a guy who could seriously be a starting qb....

                I don't think Ratliff is without talent, his arm clearly is NFL caliber. What he's showed us a Browns fans though is basically glimpses of a less good Derek Anderson. Elam also isn't a bad player and in my estimation, surrounding him with other guys who can play will help him out. Bowden is a guy who is a stop gap player all the way. He's getting up there BUT is a NFL LB all the way. What i'm saying is, for the most part these guys can play or in Ratliff's case, show something worth taking a look-see at. Mangini though is FAR from the only coach who does this, most any coach does.

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                BrownsBacker85B BrownsBacker85 wrote on last edited by
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                @bag-o-browns said:

                Elam also isn't a bad player and in my estimation, surrounding him with other guys who can play will help him out.

                Surrounding any player with talent will help them out. If we surrounded every one of our players with talented players our whole team would be amazing.

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                  E Earl34 wrote on last edited by
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                  Just like Mary Kay Quinn-er-Cabot to write an article trying to stir up QB controversy. 🙄

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                    @bag-o-browns said:

                    Elam also isn't a bad player and in my estimation, surrounding him with other guys who can play will help him out.

                    Surrounding any player with talent will help them out. If we surrounded every one of our players with talented players our whole team would be amazing.

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                    B Bag O'Browns wrote on last edited by
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                    @brownsbacker85 said:

                    Surrounding any player with talent will help them out. If we surrounded every one of our players with talented players our whole team would be amazing.

                    So Elam sucks? He isn't a guy who makes a lot of big plays but i don't see him as being the weak link in the defense. Adding people who are better than McDonald, is a helpful thing to Elam.

                    In order to appreciate the top you have to spend some time at the bottom.
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                      P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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                      Ratliff acquired in Braylon Edwards trade? what?

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                        Ratliff acquired in Braylon Edwards trade? what?

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                        @pumpkin-eater said:

                        Ratliff acquired in Braylon Edwards trade? what?

                        It was the Mark Sanchez deal...but that never stops the PD from publishing in erratum.

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                          Ratty is a mangini pet and from what we saw of ratty last year and based on the 2 QBs we already sent packing ratty shouldnt even be in the nfl to begin with beyond camp, between pet elam ,pet bowden and pet ratty it really gives me a deja vu feeling about mangini as a suspect evaluator of both talent and good decision making..i may have a hard time trusting or believing in many of his upcoming judgements and decisions...im really in a show me the money kind of mindset with him right now...he himself hasnt proven to the fans or his bosses that he has what it takes yet...and after last season he is very fortunate to have a chance at all...

                          As far as wanting to keep 4 QBs and developing both colt and ratliff at the same time are both in my mind the absurd type of babble i have grown to expect out of eric mangini honestly ...having to part with ratty will just be to hard to bare so we will leave his sucky arse leaching the bench and distracting from the development of a guy who could seriously be a starting qb....

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                          sisky fringoS sisky fringo wrote on last edited by sisky fringo
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                          @gips said:

                          As far as wanting to keep 4 QBs and developing both colt and ratliff at the same time are both in my mind the absurd type of babble i have grown to expect out of eric mangini honestly ...having to part with ratty will just be to hard to bare so we will leave his sucky arse leaching the bench and distracting from the development of a guy who could seriously be a starting qb....
                          the only thing holding back the Colt is his own inexperience--the Rat won't hinder him at all as far as i can tell.

                          furthermore he might be a hell of a teammate for all we know.

                          is the Rat still eligible for the PS?

                          hell, the only thing holding back the Colt from starting in 2010 will be the Colt.

                          if and when he's ready nothing will keep him out of the starting lineup. the kid's a winner.

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                            Just like Mary Kay Quinn-er-Cabot to write an article trying to stir up QB controversy. 🙄

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                            sisky fringoS sisky fringo wrote on last edited by sisky fringo
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                            @earl34 said:

                            Just like Mary Kay Quinn-er-Cabot to write an article trying to stir up QB controversy. 🙄
                            she's fortunate she didn't post it here...or she'd be drinkin some zombo punch.
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                              @pumpkin-eater said:

                              Ratliff acquired in Braylon Edwards trade? what?

                              It was the Mark Sanchez deal...but that never stops the PD from publishing in erratum.

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                              J jasont44094 wrote on last edited by
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                              @earl34 said:

                              It was the Mark Sanchez deal...but that never stops the PD from publishing in erratum.

                              Cabbage Brain does it again. How do most of our reporters not check out any facts, its like they write whatever they want to prover their point; no matter how ridiculess. Its like they're trying to be the first to announce or report a big story ( when there's nothing there ) so they can be recognised and get out of here. But it ends up making them look like idiots, and Cleveland reporting as a joke.

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