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Matt Roth Wants Out

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  • Winslow, Quinn...he's been behind just about every holdout we've had. he represents high dollar guys and makes them holdout, the more he has the better it works--when they are the starters. all he's done is hurt the guys he represents in CLE. but what can they do? it's the model.

    Rosenhaus is easily my least favorite person in pro football.

  • I try not to worry about things that are irrelevant. The only thing that the whole situation will come down to is who makes the bell when it rings for keeps . Can't do anything about it anyway , and there is to much good happening on the team to even spend any thought on it at all .

    jmho

  • irrelevant to what? Roth holding out is pretty relevant to my offseason. i guess you just post to be included and start caring in August then?

  • I care every day . But see we have the dudes in question under raps already . You can worry about what you want to son............I was just sayin

  • i hear ya, he's under contract. but how is it irrelevant? in the big picture all the middle drama doesn't necessarily get you to a different place but it fills the gasps and keeps it interesting, right? i think this Rosenhaus thing is a trend too, the writing seems to be on the wall with his clients. so why the chip on the shoulder? maybe our perspectives differ because for me it is just observing life--purely entertainment. but trust me, with all this LB depth nobody's losing sleep over whether MR shows up this year.

  • I try not to worry about things that are irrelevant. The only thing that the whole situation will come down to is who makes the bell when it rings for keeps . Can't do anything about it anyway , and there is to much good happening on the team to even spend any thought on it at all .

    jmho

    @neweradawg said:

    I try not to worry about things that are irrelevant. The only thing that the whole situation will come down to is who makes the bell when it rings for keeps . Can't do anything about it anyway , and there is to much good happening on the team to even spend any thought on it at all .

    jmho

    I think I may understand this post & I agree with it. The irrelevance is that we are talking about players who are either unproven over the long haul or (as with Vickers) a one dimensional player. I'm not bad mouthing Vickers, I'm just saying that his offensive contributions have, to date, been blocking. These guys were not top picks & have not established enough of a track record of excellence to hold the Team "hostage" for the big bucks & long term deals until they better establish themselves.

    If the current FO sees fit not to pay what they want, I'm good with that. We needed change in Cleveland & we're seeing it. That can't be a real bad thing.

    Mike

  • maybe as we all have our perspectives. NED has yet to explain his/hers, but i took it as "irrelevant to the Browns future success" as well. i just hate assuming, and often with clarification people find they are in agreement...or they might just be passive aggressive. who knows, people are funny. 😎

    we are as deep as i've seen at RB and LB, and added competition everywhere. i just imagine losing Wimbley, Jackson, and a Roth this time last year. there's no way. huge strides since then, but Roth is a nice piece i want to stick around.

  • I really want to keep Roth too, but some of these players have to learn that they're in a position (as a waived player last year) where they have to prove for a year or two that they're worth the bigger bucks. I believe Roth WILL prove that & I hope it happens here in Northeast Ohio.

    Mike

  • MATT WHO????? F THAT BUM.

  • wtf?? Who the hell are you again?

    There's a name given to the guy pocked last in the draft. Seems you 2 have a nickname in common...lol

  • yeah o.k. so when you and all of your buddies are sitting around having a couple of brews and talking football and specifically dominate defenses the name MATT ROTH rolls right of your tongue. pleeez! who am i? who the f are you? why don't you learn how to spell before you stomp on my opinion.

  • yeah o.k. so when you and all of your buddies are sitting around having a couple of brews and talking football and specifically dominate defenses the name MATT ROTH rolls right of your tongue. pleeez! who am i? who the f are you? why don't you learn how to spell before you stomp on my opinion.

    @miktoxic said:

    i? who the f are you? why don't you learn how to spell before you stomp on my opinion.

    MATT WHO????? F THAT BUM.

    You mean this opinion ? What opinion 🙄

  • yeah, sorry. i know everyone must be in line with everyone else on the board or you're not a true fan blah blah blah. listen i know the guy can play but to ask for a trade. my point/opinion: trade him if he demands it. and...........F THAT BUM!!!

  • I don't worry about not showing up for voluntary workouts. You can't even call it a holdout.

    They start holding out of regular camp, then you need to start to be concerned.

  • yeah o.k. so when you and all of your buddies are sitting around having a couple of brews and talking football and specifically dominate defenses the name MATT ROTH rolls right of your tongue. pleeez! who am i? who the f are you? why don't you learn how to spell before you stomp on my opinion.

    @miktoxic said:

    yeah o.k. so when you and all of your buddies are sitting around having a couple of brews and talking football and specifically dominate defenses the name MATT ROTH rolls right of your tongue. pleeez! who am i? who the f are you? why don't you learn how to spell before you stomp on my opinion.

    I'm typing on a phone retread...

    Just because you're another uneducated idiot that relies on espn for you opinion doesmt mean its a good one. Try watching some football, and perhaps listen to those here that know infonite amounts more than ypu before you open you're cry hole and prove how mamoth an idiot you are.

    Have great day....

  • @miktoxic said:

    yeah o.k. so when you and all of your buddies are sitting around having a couple of brews and talking football and specifically dominate defenses the name MATT ROTH rolls right of your tongue. pleeez! who am i? who the f are you? why don't you learn how to spell before you stomp on my opinion.

    I'm typing on a phone retread...

    Just because you're another uneducated idiot that relies on espn for you opinion doesmt mean its a good one. Try watching some football, and perhaps listen to those here that know infonite amounts more than ypu before you open you're cry hole and prove how mamoth an idiot you are.

    Have great day....

    @choco said:

    I'm typing on a phone retread... I GUESS YOU MEANT Retard......1st typo

    Just because you're another uneducated idiot that relies on espn for you opinion doesmt mean its a good one. hmmmm......doesmt? who's the uneducated idiot now? no apostrophe and the "for you opinion" let me guess: you're black. Try watching some football, and perhaps listen to those here that know infonite amounts more than ypu before you open you're cry hole and prove how mamoth an idiot you are. infonite and mamoth..........we learned how to spell those words in 1st grade. are you sure you're not from pukesburg?

    Have great day....

    i do listen to people here and respect everyone's opinion. just because you don't agree with mine doesn't mean you gotta start breaking chops. so i choose to do it in a way that pisses you off. relax. there's worse things in life than a guy dropping the F bomb about MATT ROTH superstar linebacker. now you have a nice day.

  • WARNING!!!! WE HAVE GRAMMAR POLICE IN THE AREA.

    EVERYONE WATCH YOU SPELLING OR YOU'LL GET A TICKET.

  • http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...t-of-cleveland/

    Matt Roth wants out of Cleveland

    Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on May 17, 2010 11:29 AM ET

    Browns outside linebacker Matt Roth is hoping his stay in Cleveland is a short one.

    Six months after Roth essentially forced his way out of Miami and the Browns claimed him off waivers, Roth asked Cleveland to trade him Monday, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter.

    The unsigned restricted free agent wants a multi-year contract extension, and the two sides aren't close to reaching one. Roth had four sacks in seven games in Cleveland last year. He's expected to start this season.

    We mentioned Sunday that the Browns have discussed lowering the tender offer for their restricted free agents if the players don't show up by June 15. It appears the standoff with Roth could take a while.

    Let the stare down begin. I think that Roth will play this season under his current contract and if he produces, he will get paid. We shall see.

    @clevelandfanforlife said:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...t-of-cleveland/

    Let the stare down begin. I think that Roth will play this season under his current contract and if he produces, he will get paid. We shall see.

    let em go

  • Roth has two options---

    Accept the contract thats offered - or - sit out the season and receive nothing....

    If he sits out I believe he will also be a restricted free agent next year....

    He has no leverage in this fight.............

    Peace

    T.Dawg