How can one be a fan of both
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I am not a fan of the Steelers by any means, but I root for them in Championships most of the time.
Just the way I am. If my team can't win, I root for the teams closest to me.
I am a Gator fan.....but if I can't win the National Championship, I root for the SEC team that can.
I have never understood OSU fans wanting Mich to lose all their games......that only hurts you folks....you want Mich to be undefeated when you face off in Nov.....and if they beat you, then root for them as that only elevates the Big 10......it really isn't a hard concept to grasp.
I am not a fan of the Steelers by any means, but I root for them in Championships most of the time.
Just the way I am. If my team can't win, I root for the teams closest to me.
I am a Gator fan.....but if I can't win the National Championship, I root for the SEC team that can.
I have never understood OSU fans wanting Mich to lose all their games......that only hurts you folks....you want Mich to be undefeated when you face off in Nov.....and if they beat you, then root for them as that only elevates the Big 10......it really isn't a hard concept to grasp.
I just don't think it works that way. Not for me. Michigan, the Steelers, they are the "enemy" (in the competitive sports sense). Anything bad that happens to them is good as far as I am concerned. At least that is what the heart says. Now, I understand that for the Ohio State-Michigan rivalry and Browns/Steeler rivalry to be a rip roaring good rivalry, both teams need to be good. But that doesn't mean I have to like it inherently. And it doesn't mean that I have to root for those teams against outside opponents. I certainly don't root for Michigan when they, say, play Alabama in a bowl game. Why should I root for them just because they are in the same conference? I sure the F% don't root for the Steelers in the SB.
And this business of rooting for a conference, to me, is about the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
As recent events have proven, these conferences are only about money, and making it easy on Athletic Directors to schedule games. There is no freeking loyalty to a conference. You should be true to your school, but screw the other teams in your conference. Are we supposed to be in love with fricking Nebraska now that they have joined the Big Ten more than when they were in the Big 12? Why?
Why would you root for South Carolina any more now than when they were a member of the ACC? Conferences are nothing but a commercial consortium....and who really give a shit about those things.
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I am not a fan of the Steelers by any means, but I root for them in Championships most of the time.
Just the way I am. If my team can't win, I root for the teams closest to me.
I am a Gator fan.....but if I can't win the National Championship, I root for the SEC team that can.
I have never understood OSU fans wanting Mich to lose all their games......that only hurts you folks....you want Mich to be undefeated when you face off in Nov.....and if they beat you, then root for them as that only elevates the Big 10......it really isn't a hard concept to grasp.
I just don't think it works that way. Not for me. Michigan, the Steelers, they are the "enemy" (in the competitive sports sense). Anything bad that happens to them is good as far as I am concerned. At least that is what the heart says. Now, I understand that for the Ohio State-Michigan rivalry and Browns/Steeler rivalry to be a rip roaring good rivalry, both teams need to be good. But that doesn't mean I have to like it inherently. And it doesn't mean that I have to root for those teams against outside opponents. I certainly don't root for Michigan when they, say, play Alabama in a bowl game. Why should I root for them just because they are in the same conference? I sure the F% don't root for the Steelers in the SB.
And this business of rooting for a conference, to me, is about the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
As recent events have proven, these conferences are only about money, and making it easy on Athletic Directors to schedule games. There is no freeking loyalty to a conference. You should be true to your school, but screw the other teams in your conference. Are we supposed to be in love with fricking Nebraska now that they have joined the Big Ten more than when they were in the Big 12? Why?
Why would you root for South Carolina any more now than when they were a member of the ACC? Conferences are nothing but a commercial consortium....and who really give a shit about those things.
I just don't think it works that way. Not for me. Michigan, the Steelers, they are the "enemy" (in the competitive sports sense). Anything bad that happens to them is good as far as I am concerned. At least that is what the heart says. Now, I understand that for the Ohio State-Michigan rivalry and Browns/Steeler rivalry to be a rip roaring good rivalry, both teams need to be good. But that doesn't mean I have to like it inherently. And it doesn't mean that I have to root for those teams against outside opponents. I certainly don't root for Michigan when they, say, play Alabama in a bowl game. Why should I root for them just because they are in the same conference? I sure the F% don't root for the Steelers in the SB.
And this business of rooting for a conference, to me, is about the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
As recent events have proven, these conferences are only about money, and making it easy on Athletic Directors to schedule games. There is no freeking loyalty to a conference. You should be true to your school, but screw the other teams in your conference. Are we supposed to be in love with fricking Nebraska now that they have joined the Big Ten more than when they were in the Big 12? Why?
Why would you root for South Carolina any more now than when they were a member of the ACC? Conferences are nothing but a commercial consortium....and who really give a shit about those things
.Right on Gipper! I couldn't have said it better myself. I hate Michigan, and I F***in' HAAAAAAAAATE the Steelers! No way in Hell am I rooting for them in a Super Bowl or ANY other time, other than to lose! You're right, you root for your school, and your hometown. What drives me absolutely nuts is the Ohio born Steelers fans, that root for the Cavs and the Buckeyes! No disrespect by any means to the Steelers fans borned in WPA, but no excuse to cheer against your hometown. That's like rooting for Canada in the Olympics to beat the US!
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I just don't think it works that way. Not for me. Michigan, the Steelers, they are the "enemy" (in the competitive sports sense). Anything bad that happens to them is good as far as I am concerned. At least that is what the heart says. Now, I understand that for the Ohio State-Michigan rivalry and Browns/Steeler rivalry to be a rip roaring good rivalry, both teams need to be good. But that doesn't mean I have to like it inherently. And it doesn't mean that I have to root for those teams against outside opponents. I certainly don't root for Michigan when they, say, play Alabama in a bowl game. Why should I root for them just because they are in the same conference? I sure the F% don't root for the Steelers in the SB.
And this business of rooting for a conference, to me, is about the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
As recent events have proven, these conferences are only about money, and making it easy on Athletic Directors to schedule games. There is no freeking loyalty to a conference. You should be true to your school, but screw the other teams in your conference. Are we supposed to be in love with fricking Nebraska now that they have joined the Big Ten more than when they were in the Big 12? Why?
Why would you root for South Carolina any more now than when they were a member of the ACC? Conferences are nothing but a commercial consortium....and who really give a shit about those things
.Right on Gipper! I couldn't have said it better myself. I hate Michigan, and I F***in' HAAAAAAAAATE the Steelers! No way in Hell am I rooting for them in a Super Bowl or ANY other time, other than to lose! You're right, you root for your school, and your hometown. What drives me absolutely nuts is the Ohio born Steelers fans, that root for the Cavs and the Buckeyes! No disrespect by any means to the Steelers fans borned in WPA, but no excuse to cheer against your hometown. That's like rooting for Canada in the Olympics to beat the US!
Right on Gipper! I couldn't have said it better myself. I hate Michigan, and I F***in' HAAAAAAAAATE the Steelers! No way in Hell am I rooting for them in a Super Bowl or ANY other time, other than to lose! You're right, you root for your school, and your hometown. What drives me absolutely nuts is the Ohio born Steelers fans, that root for the Cavs and the Buckeyes! No disrespect by any means to the Steelers fans borned in WPA, but no excuse to cheer against your hometown. That's like rooting for Canada in the Olympics to beat the US!
More like rooting for the Soviets. Maybe you are not old enough to remember the US/Soviet Olympic rivalry.
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Right on Gipper! I couldn't have said it better myself. I hate Michigan, and I F***in' HAAAAAAAAATE the Steelers! No way in Hell am I rooting for them in a Super Bowl or ANY other time, other than to lose! You're right, you root for your school, and your hometown. What drives me absolutely nuts is the Ohio born Steelers fans, that root for the Cavs and the Buckeyes! No disrespect by any means to the Steelers fans borned in WPA, but no excuse to cheer against your hometown. That's like rooting for Canada in the Olympics to beat the US!
More like rooting for the Soviets. Maybe you are not old enough to remember the US/Soviet Olympic rivalry.
More like rooting for the Soviets. Maybe you are not old enough to remember the US/Soviet Olympic rivalry.
Yes I am. I was born in 73. I should have used that analogy, but you know what I meant.
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I am not a fan of the Steelers by any means, but I root for them in Championships most of the time.
Just the way I am. If my team can't win, I root for the teams closest to me.
I am a Gator fan.....but if I can't win the National Championship, I root for the SEC team that can.
I have never understood OSU fans wanting Mich to lose all their games......that only hurts you folks....you want Mich to be undefeated when you face off in Nov.....and if they beat you, then root for them as that only elevates the Big 10......it really isn't a hard concept to grasp.
I just don't think it works that way. Not for me. Michigan, the Steelers, they are the "enemy" (in the competitive sports sense). Anything bad that happens to them is good as far as I am concerned. At least that is what the heart says. Now, I understand that for the Ohio State-Michigan rivalry and Browns/Steeler rivalry to be a rip roaring good rivalry, both teams need to be good. But that doesn't mean I have to like it inherently. And it doesn't mean that I have to root for those teams against outside opponents. I certainly don't root for Michigan when they, say, play Alabama in a bowl game. Why should I root for them just because they are in the same conference? I sure the F% don't root for the Steelers in the SB.
And this business of rooting for a conference, to me, is about the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
As recent events have proven, these conferences are only about money, and making it easy on Athletic Directors to schedule games. There is no freeking loyalty to a conference. You should be true to your school, but screw the other teams in your conference. Are we supposed to be in love with fricking Nebraska now that they have joined the Big Ten more than when they were in the Big 12? Why?
Why would you root for South Carolina any more now than when they were a member of the ACC? Conferences are nothing but a commercial consortium....and who really give a shit about those things.
I just don't think it works that way. Not for me. Michigan, the Steelers, they are the "enemy" (in the competitive sports sense). Anything bad that happens to them is good as far as I am concerned. At least that is what the heart says. Now, I understand that for the Ohio State-Michigan rivalry and Browns/Steeler rivalry to be a rip roaring good rivalry, both teams need to be good. But that doesn't mean I have to like it inherently. And it doesn't mean that I have to root for those teams against outside opponents. I certainly don't root for Michigan when they, say, play Alabama in a bowl game. Why should I root for them just because they are in the same conference? I sure the F% don't root for the Steelers in the SB.
And this business of rooting for a conference, to me, is about the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
As recent events have proven, these conferences are only about money, and making it easy on Athletic Directors to schedule games. There is no freeking loyalty to a conference. You should be true to your school, but screw the other teams in your conference. Are we supposed to be in love with fricking Nebraska now that they have joined the Big Ten more than when they were in the Big 12? Why?
Why would you root for South Carolina any more now than when they were a member of the ACC? Conferences are nothing but a commercial consortium....and who really give a shit about those things
.Think what you want.
I want every team in the SEC undefeated until we play them.
In case you hadn't noticed, strength of schedule is a big part of the BCS formula.
It doesn't help OSU one bit to beat a Michigan team the last week of the season if they have lost 3-4 games.
It doesn't work that way in the NFL, but it is still the same attitude for me.
I suppose part of that is we have sucked ass for so long it somehow makes me feel better about the losses if the teams in our division beat up other teams in other divisions and go deep in to the playoffs.
Again, this isn't regular season. I want them to lose every week so maybe we can squeak in to the playoffs with our usual 4-5 wins.
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I just don't think it works that way. Not for me. Michigan, the Steelers, they are the "enemy" (in the competitive sports sense). Anything bad that happens to them is good as far as I am concerned. At least that is what the heart says. Now, I understand that for the Ohio State-Michigan rivalry and Browns/Steeler rivalry to be a rip roaring good rivalry, both teams need to be good. But that doesn't mean I have to like it inherently. And it doesn't mean that I have to root for those teams against outside opponents. I certainly don't root for Michigan when they, say, play Alabama in a bowl game. Why should I root for them just because they are in the same conference? I sure the F% don't root for the Steelers in the SB.
And this business of rooting for a conference, to me, is about the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
As recent events have proven, these conferences are only about money, and making it easy on Athletic Directors to schedule games. There is no freeking loyalty to a conference. You should be true to your school, but screw the other teams in your conference. Are we supposed to be in love with fricking Nebraska now that they have joined the Big Ten more than when they were in the Big 12? Why?
Why would you root for South Carolina any more now than when they were a member of the ACC? Conferences are nothing but a commercial consortium....and who really give a shit about those things
.Think what you want.
I want every team in the SEC undefeated until we play them.
In case you hadn't noticed, strength of schedule is a big part of the BCS formula.
It doesn't help OSU one bit to beat a Michigan team the last week of the season if they have lost 3-4 games.
It doesn't work that way in the NFL, but it is still the same attitude for me.
I suppose part of that is we have sucked ass for so long it somehow makes me feel better about the losses if the teams in our division beat up other teams in other divisions and go deep in to the playoffs.
Again, this isn't regular season. I want them to lose every week so maybe we can squeak in to the playoffs with our usual 4-5 wins.
Think what you want.
I want every team in the SEC undefeated until we play them.
In case you hadn't noticed, strength of schedule is a big part of the BCS formula.
It doesn't help OSU one bit to beat a Michigan team the last week of the season if they have lost 3-4 games.
It doesn't work that way in the NFL, but it is still the same attitude for me.
I suppose part of that is we have sucked ass for so long it somehow makes me feel better about the losses if the teams in our division beat up other teams in other divisions and go deep in to the playoffs.
Again, this isn't regular season. I want them to lose every week so maybe we can squeak in to the playoffs with our usual 4-5 wins.
OK, a couple of things: 1. The F**k it does help to beat Michigan if they have lost 3-4 games. The Ohio State/Michigan rivalry is the biggest thing on the calendar of the NCAA football season. Bigger than any conference championship game, bigger than any BCS title game.
2. Who cares if the rest of your conference gets whacked, as long as your team beats the hell out of all of them. If Ohio State is 8-0 in the Big Ten, and all the other teams are 4-4, that is just fine and dandy with me. As long as they also win their out of conference games, that Ohio State team is going to be in the National Championship game. If Florida, your team, goes 12-0, and the rest of the SEC winds up 6-6, who the frak cares. Florida too, is going to be in the BCS title game.
3. Once the season is over, and the Conference title games are played and the BCS rankings are completed, why would you care about the SEC or whoever winning over another team from another conference? You gain nothing by it except some internal, misguided peacock mindphuk satisfaction. If Ohio State is playing Florida in the National title game, do I give a rat's ass if Wisconsin beats Texas A&M in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl? Or if Minnesota beats Washington State in the Insight.com Bowl.
That is absurd thinking in my view.
As I have said to several of the SEC blowhards: You ain't going to change the result of the Civil War because of a few football games that happen now 150 years later. Get over it. You lost. Quit flying your F**king Confederate Flag. If the SEC owes its success to anyone it is the great great great grandsons of those slaves you fought so desperately to keep in chains.
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I cannot bring myself to root for a division rival in any sport. Respect??? Maybe? Root for??? HELL NO!
I don't care if it's good for the division, or whatever the case may be. Now, in also liking the Buckeyes, I don't have this blind hatred for Florida, because they are not a division rival. I'm not a fan, but I don't hate them. Nor do I hate the Marlins, because of the 97 World Series, or the Spurs, or even Denver for that matter (though I used to, and seeing highlights of the drive, and the fumble still hurts). But as for the Steelers, Ravens, and Bengals I cannot and will not root for those teams. I think my hatred for the Steelers trumps that of the other two, and even Michigan. Simply put... I root for two teams; the Cleveland Browns, and anyone who is playing Pittsburgh. 
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I cannot bring myself to root for a division rival in any sport. Respect??? Maybe? Root for??? HELL NO!
I don't care if it's good for the division, or whatever the case may be. Now, in also liking the Buckeyes, I don't have this blind hatred for Florida, because they are not a division rival. I'm not a fan, but I don't hate them. Nor do I hate the Marlins, because of the 97 World Series, or the Spurs, or even Denver for that matter (though I used to, and seeing highlights of the drive, and the fumble still hurts). But as for the Steelers, Ravens, and Bengals I cannot and will not root for those teams. I think my hatred for the Steelers trumps that of the other two, and even Michigan. Simply put... I root for two teams; the Cleveland Browns, and anyone who is playing Pittsburgh. I cannot bring myself to root for a division rival in any sport. Respect??? Maybe? Root for??? HELL NO!
I don't care if it's good for the division, or whatever the case may be. Now, in also liking the Buckeyes, I don't have this blind hatred for Florida, because they are not a division rival. I'm not a fan, but I don't hate them. Nor do I hate the Marlins, because of the 97 World Series, or the Spurs, or even Denver for that matter (though I used to, and seeing highlights of the drive, and the fumble still hurts). But as for the Steelers, Ravens, and Bengals I cannot and will not root for those teams. I think my hatred for the Steelers trumps that of the other two, and even Michigan. Simply put... I root for two teams; the Cleveland Browns, and anyone who is playing Pittsburgh. I only root for division rivals if the game has implications for the Steelers. Do I want the division to do well? Absolutely but if any of the teams in the AFC north not named the Steelers make it to the playoffs I'm not rooting for them. Mind you I'm not rooting against them but I don't have my inter-division cheer outfit on either. Unless of course the team being played is the Patriots because I hate them beyond all others.
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I cannot bring myself to root for a division rival in any sport. Respect??? Maybe? Root for??? HELL NO!
I don't care if it's good for the division, or whatever the case may be. Now, in also liking the Buckeyes, I don't have this blind hatred for Florida, because they are not a division rival. I'm not a fan, but I don't hate them. Nor do I hate the Marlins, because of the 97 World Series, or the Spurs, or even Denver for that matter (though I used to, and seeing highlights of the drive, and the fumble still hurts). But as for the Steelers, Ravens, and Bengals I cannot and will not root for those teams. I think my hatred for the Steelers trumps that of the other two, and even Michigan. Simply put... I root for two teams; the Cleveland Browns, and anyone who is playing Pittsburgh. I only root for division rivals if the game has implications for the Steelers. Do I want the division to do well? Absolutely but if any of the teams in the AFC north not named the Steelers make it to the playoffs I'm not rooting for them. Mind you I'm not rooting against them but I don't have my inter-division cheer outfit on either. Unless of course the team being played is the Patriots because I hate them beyond all others.
Rorbotron said:
I only root for division rivals if the game has implications for the Steelers. Do I want the division to do well? Absolutely but if any of the teams in the AFC north not named the Steelers make it to the playoffs I'm not rooting for them. Mind you I'm not rooting against them but I don't have my inter-division cheer outfit on either. Unless of course the team being played is the Patriots because I hate them beyond all others.I can understand your point of view. "inter-division cheer outfit." Funny!
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I cannot bring myself to root for a division rival in any sport. Respect??? Maybe? Root for??? HELL NO!
I don't care if it's good for the division, or whatever the case may be. Now, in also liking the Buckeyes, I don't have this blind hatred for Florida, because they are not a division rival. I'm not a fan, but I don't hate them. Nor do I hate the Marlins, because of the 97 World Series, or the Spurs, or even Denver for that matter (though I used to, and seeing highlights of the drive, and the fumble still hurts). But as for the Steelers, Ravens, and Bengals I cannot and will not root for those teams. I think my hatred for the Steelers trumps that of the other two, and even Michigan. Simply put... I root for two teams; the Cleveland Browns, and anyone who is playing Pittsburgh. I only root for division rivals if the game has implications for the Steelers. Do I want the division to do well? Absolutely but if any of the teams in the AFC north not named the Steelers make it to the playoffs I'm not rooting for them. Mind you I'm not rooting against them but I don't have my inter-division cheer outfit on either. Unless of course the team being played is the Patriots because I hate them beyond all others.
Rorbotron said:
I only root for division rivals if the game has implications for the Steelers. Do I want the division to do well? Absolutely but if any of the teams in the AFC north not named the Steelers make it to the playoffs I'm not rooting for them. Mind you I'm not rooting against them but I don't have my inter-division cheer outfit on either. Unless of course the team being played is the Patriots because I hate them beyond all others.Sure, I may or may not root for one of the other AFC North teams in a playoff game, but it would be based on a whim of my emotion at the time, not based on the fact they are in the AFC North. I might prefer the Ravens to beat the Pats in a playoff game and the next week root for the Titans to beat the Ravens. Like I said, it is all emotional....and illogical.
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I am not a fan of the Steelers by any means, but I root for them in Championships most of the time.
Just the way I am. If my team can't win, I root for the teams closest to me.
I am a Gator fan.....but if I can't win the National Championship, I root for the SEC team that can.
I have never understood OSU fans wanting Mich to lose all their games......that only hurts you folks....you want Mich to be undefeated when you face off in Nov.....and if they beat you, then root for them as that only elevates the Big 10......it really isn't a hard concept to grasp.
I am not a fan of the Steelers by any means, but I root for them in Championships most of the time.
Just the way I am. If my team can't win, I root for the teams closest to me.
I am a Gator fan.....but if I can't win the National Championship, I root for the SEC team that can.
I have never understood OSU fans wanting Mich to lose all their games......that only hurts you folks....you want Mich to be undefeated when you face off in Nov.....and if they beat you, then root for them as that only elevates the Big 10......it really isn't a hard concept to grasp.
Nice post! I agree! And wow people really hate rich. I really dont care if he is a Steeler fan or stupid or gay or whatever. Hate is such a waste of time. But as for his and your posts. I root for the Indians and the Reds. Different leagues so I can. When they play each other I ALWAYS root for the Indians. But if they both have great season like they did before the darn strike in 94 then all of us Ohioans benefit emotionally and financially. I root for the Browns in football. Pretty much the only team that I root for. With that being said, I do not hate the Steelers and never have even before I learned what a waste of time hate is. I will root for the Steelers in the following times.
When it helps the Browns move up in the standings (like by beating Cincy for example)
If they play in the superbowl or playoffs and we aren't in and I don't really care for the other teams.
I do think the two cities have a great deal in common and I have a lot of respect for what the Steelers and their organization has done over the years. I guess I come pretty close to agreeing with the guy that most of you seem to hate! OH NO LOOKOUT HERE COMES THEBROWNSBOARD.COM LYNCHMOB RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!
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Think what you want.
I want every team in the SEC undefeated until we play them.
In case you hadn't noticed, strength of schedule is a big part of the BCS formula.
It doesn't help OSU one bit to beat a Michigan team the last week of the season if they have lost 3-4 games.
It doesn't work that way in the NFL, but it is still the same attitude for me.
I suppose part of that is we have sucked ass for so long it somehow makes me feel better about the losses if the teams in our division beat up other teams in other divisions and go deep in to the playoffs.
Again, this isn't regular season. I want them to lose every week so maybe we can squeak in to the playoffs with our usual 4-5 wins.
OK, a couple of things: 1. The F**k it does help to beat Michigan if they have lost 3-4 games. The Ohio State/Michigan rivalry is the biggest thing on the calendar of the NCAA football season. Bigger than any conference championship game, bigger than any BCS title game.
2. Who cares if the rest of your conference gets whacked, as long as your team beats the hell out of all of them. If Ohio State is 8-0 in the Big Ten, and all the other teams are 4-4, that is just fine and dandy with me. As long as they also win their out of conference games, that Ohio State team is going to be in the National Championship game. If Florida, your team, goes 12-0, and the rest of the SEC winds up 6-6, who the frak cares. Florida too, is going to be in the BCS title game.
3. Once the season is over, and the Conference title games are played and the BCS rankings are completed, why would you care about the SEC or whoever winning over another team from another conference? You gain nothing by it except some internal, misguided peacock mindphuk satisfaction. If Ohio State is playing Florida in the National title game, do I give a rat's ass if Wisconsin beats Texas A&M in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl? Or if Minnesota beats Washington State in the Insight.com Bowl.
That is absurd thinking in my view.
As I have said to several of the SEC blowhards: You ain't going to change the result of the Civil War because of a few football games that happen now 150 years later. Get over it. You lost. Quit flying your F**king Confederate Flag. If the SEC owes its success to anyone it is the great great great grandsons of those slaves you fought so desperately to keep in chains.
OK, a couple of things: 1. The F**k it does help to beat Michigan if they have lost 3-4 games. The Ohio State/Michigan rivalry is the biggest thing on the calendar of the NCAA football season. Bigger than any conference championship game, bigger than any BCS title game.
2. Who cares if the rest of your conference gets whacked, as long as your team beats the hell out of all of them. If Ohio State is 8-0 in the Big Ten, and all the other teams are 4-4, that is just fine and dandy with me. As long as they also win their out of conference games, that Ohio State team is going to be in the National Championship game. If Florida, your team, goes 12-0, and the rest of the SEC winds up 6-6, who the frak cares. Florida too, is going to be in the BCS title game.
3. Once the season is over, and the Conference title games are played and the BCS rankings are completed, why would you care about the SEC or whoever winning over another team from another conference? You gain nothing by it except some internal, misguided peacock mindphuk satisfaction. If Ohio State is playing Florida in the National title game, do I give a rat's ass if Wisconsin beats Texas A&M in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl? Or if Minnesota beats Washington State in the Insight.com Bowl.
That is absurd thinking in my view.
As I have said to several of the SEC blowhards: You ain't going to change the result of the Civil War because of a few football games that happen now 150 years later. Get over it. You lost. Quit flying your F**king Confederate Flag. If the SEC owes its success to anyone it is the great great great grandsons of those slaves you fought so desperately to keep in chains.
Wow I couldn't disagree with this post any more. It is so off base that it would seem like you don't even watch college football! And the reference to the south and the slaves? Really? Other then this reply no greater response is needed. WOW!
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I am not a fan of the Steelers by any means, but I root for them in Championships most of the time.
Just the way I am. If my team can't win, I root for the teams closest to me.
I am a Gator fan.....but if I can't win the National Championship, I root for the SEC team that can.
I have never understood OSU fans wanting Mich to lose all their games......that only hurts you folks....you want Mich to be undefeated when you face off in Nov.....and if they beat you, then root for them as that only elevates the Big 10......it really isn't a hard concept to grasp.
Nice post! I agree! And wow people really hate rich. I really dont care if he is a Steeler fan or stupid or gay or whatever. Hate is such a waste of time. But as for his and your posts. I root for the Indians and the Reds. Different leagues so I can. When they play each other I ALWAYS root for the Indians. But if they both have great season like they did before the darn strike in 94 then all of us Ohioans benefit emotionally and financially. I root for the Browns in football. Pretty much the only team that I root for. With that being said, I do not hate the Steelers and never have even before I learned what a waste of time hate is. I will root for the Steelers in the following times.
When it helps the Browns move up in the standings (like by beating Cincy for example)
If they play in the superbowl or playoffs and we aren't in and I don't really care for the other teams.
I do think the two cities have a great deal in common and I have a lot of respect for what the Steelers and their organization has done over the years. I guess I come pretty close to agreeing with the guy that most of you seem to hate! OH NO LOOKOUT HERE COMES THEBROWNSBOARD.COM LYNCHMOB RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!
Nice post! I agree! And wow people really hate rich. I really dont care if he is a Steeler fan or stupid or gay or whatever. Hate is such a waste of time. But as for his and your posts. I root for the Indians and the Reds. Different leagues so I can. When they play each other I ALWAYS root for the Indians. But if they both have great season like they did before the darn strike in 94 then all of us Ohioans benefit emotionally and financially. I root for the Browns in football. Pretty much the only team that I root for. With that being said, I do not hate the Steelers and never have even before I learned what a waste of time hate is. I will root for the Steelers in the following times.
When it helps the Browns move up in the standings (like by beating Cincy for example)
If they play in the superbowl or playoffs and we aren't in and I don't really care for the other teams.
I do think the two cities have a great deal in common and I have a lot of respect for what the Steelers and their organization has done over the years. I guess I come pretty close to agreeing with the guy that most of you seem to hate! OH NO LOOKOUT HERE COMES THEBROWNSBOARD.COM LYNCHMOB RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!
I don't hate the guy. I don't like that right off the bat he insulted me just because I feel you can't be a fan of both the Browns and the Steelers. It just doesn't make sense to me. It was an opinion, and it wasn't meant as an insult to Rich, which is what I am sure that he is used to here. I can see why you would root for the Steelers to help the Browns, and I suppose that I would probably do the same. OK I'll agree... hate is a strong word, so I'll say I STRONGLY DISLIKE the Steelers.
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Nice post! I agree! And wow people really hate rich. I really dont care if he is a Steeler fan or stupid or gay or whatever. Hate is such a waste of time. But as for his and your posts. I root for the Indians and the Reds. Different leagues so I can. When they play each other I ALWAYS root for the Indians. But if they both have great season like they did before the darn strike in 94 then all of us Ohioans benefit emotionally and financially. I root for the Browns in football. Pretty much the only team that I root for. With that being said, I do not hate the Steelers and never have even before I learned what a waste of time hate is. I will root for the Steelers in the following times.
When it helps the Browns move up in the standings (like by beating Cincy for example)
If they play in the superbowl or playoffs and we aren't in and I don't really care for the other teams.
I do think the two cities have a great deal in common and I have a lot of respect for what the Steelers and their organization has done over the years. I guess I come pretty close to agreeing with the guy that most of you seem to hate! OH NO LOOKOUT HERE COMES THEBROWNSBOARD.COM LYNCHMOB RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!
I don't hate the guy. I don't like that right off the bat he insulted me just because I feel you can't be a fan of both the Browns and the Steelers. It just doesn't make sense to me. It was an opinion, and it wasn't meant as an insult to Rich, which is what I am sure that he is used to here. I can see why you would root for the Steelers to help the Browns, and I suppose that I would probably do the same. OK I'll agree... hate is a strong word, so I'll say I STRONGLY DISLIKE the Steelers.
I don't hate the guy. I don't like that right off the bat he insulted me just because I feel you can't be a fan of both the Browns and the Steelers. It just doesn't make sense to me. It was an opinion, and it wasn't meant as an insult to Rich, which is what I am sure that he is used to here. I can see why you would root for the Steelers to help the Browns, and I suppose that I would probably do the same. OK I'll agree... hate is a strong word, so I'll say I STRONGLY DISLIKE the Steelers.
I really was referring to some of the other posters, and I agree there is really no need for him to call you a mental midget just because you said you disagree.
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I don't hate the guy. I don't like that right off the bat he insulted me just because I feel you can't be a fan of both the Browns and the Steelers. It just doesn't make sense to me. It was an opinion, and it wasn't meant as an insult to Rich, which is what I am sure that he is used to here. I can see why you would root for the Steelers to help the Browns, and I suppose that I would probably do the same. OK I'll agree... hate is a strong word, so I'll say I STRONGLY DISLIKE the Steelers.
I really was referring to some of the other posters, and I agree there is really no need for him to call you a mental midget just because you said you disagree.
I really was referring to some of the other posters, and I agree there is really no need for him to call you a mental midget just because you said you disagree.
I mean, to each their own I guess. I've met one or two like that. Here is a good one. Years back at Cedar Point, honest to God, I saw someone wearing a Michigan hat, and an Ohio State t-shirt. Really? Haven't seen alleged fans of both the Browns and Steelers rock both!
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OK, a couple of things: 1. The F**k it does help to beat Michigan if they have lost 3-4 games. The Ohio State/Michigan rivalry is the biggest thing on the calendar of the NCAA football season. Bigger than any conference championship game, bigger than any BCS title game.
2. Who cares if the rest of your conference gets whacked, as long as your team beats the hell out of all of them. If Ohio State is 8-0 in the Big Ten, and all the other teams are 4-4, that is just fine and dandy with me. As long as they also win their out of conference games, that Ohio State team is going to be in the National Championship game. If Florida, your team, goes 12-0, and the rest of the SEC winds up 6-6, who the frak cares. Florida too, is going to be in the BCS title game.
3. Once the season is over, and the Conference title games are played and the BCS rankings are completed, why would you care about the SEC or whoever winning over another team from another conference? You gain nothing by it except some internal, misguided peacock mindphuk satisfaction. If Ohio State is playing Florida in the National title game, do I give a rat's ass if Wisconsin beats Texas A&M in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl? Or if Minnesota beats Washington State in the Insight.com Bowl.
That is absurd thinking in my view.
As I have said to several of the SEC blowhards: You ain't going to change the result of the Civil War because of a few football games that happen now 150 years later. Get over it. You lost. Quit flying your F**king Confederate Flag. If the SEC owes its success to anyone it is the great great great grandsons of those slaves you fought so desperately to keep in chains.
Wow I couldn't disagree with this post any more. It is so off base that it would seem like you don't even watch college football! And the reference to the south and the slaves? Really? Other then this reply no greater response is needed. WOW!
Wow I couldn't disagree with this post any more. It is so off base that it would seem like you don't even watch college football! And the reference to the south and the slaves? Really? Other then this reply no greater response is needed. WOW!
Everything I have said is right F**king dead on.
Can you get a degree from Big Ten University? Can you go to grad school at SEC College? When those entities start issuing diplomas, then you can have some loyalty to them. They are nothing but joint commercial ventures for their affiliated colleges. Do you root for you local bank branch to do well in its commercial loan department? No.
And apparently, you have never been exposed to certain types of hard core SEC fans, because in fact I have had some of them tell me that "The South has risen again", or "SEC football vindicates us for the War of Northern Aggression", and yes, many of them do display the Confederate Flag, which to many is a symbol of racism....and they know it, and that is why they do it. They fly that symbol of racism, yet root for all the black players on their teams.
Obviously I am not talking about a guy like ballpeen who is clearly not one of those types, but those types are out there.
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Wow I couldn't disagree with this post any more. It is so off base that it would seem like you don't even watch college football! And the reference to the south and the slaves? Really? Other then this reply no greater response is needed. WOW!
Everything I have said is right F**king dead on.
Can you get a degree from Big Ten University? Can you go to grad school at SEC College? When those entities start issuing diplomas, then you can have some loyalty to them. They are nothing but joint commercial ventures for their affiliated colleges. Do you root for you local bank branch to do well in its commercial loan department? No.
And apparently, you have never been exposed to certain types of hard core SEC fans, because in fact I have had some of them tell me that "The South has risen again", or "SEC football vindicates us for the War of Northern Aggression", and yes, many of them do display the Confederate Flag, which to many is a symbol of racism....and they know it, and that is why they do it. They fly that symbol of racism, yet root for all the black players on their teams.
Obviously I am not talking about a guy like ballpeen who is clearly not one of those types, but those types are out there.
Everything I have said is right F**king dead on.
Can you get a degree from Big Ten University? Can you go to grad school at SEC College? When those entities start issuing diplomas, then you can have some loyalty to them. They are nothing but joint commercial ventures for their affiliated colleges. Do you root for you local bank branch to do well in its commercial loan department? No.
And apparently, you have never been exposed to certain types of hard core SEC fans, because in fact I have had some of them tell me that "The South has risen again", or "SEC football vindicates us for the War of Northern Aggression", and yes, many of them do display the Confederate Flag, which to many is a symbol of racism....and they know it, and that is why they do it. They fly that symbol of racism, yet root for all the black players on their teams.
Obviously I am not talking about a guy like ballpeen who is clearly not one of those types, but those types are out there.
Just because you think that the last sentence or two is right doesn't make your whole post dead on! Ans just because it is your opinion doen't make it correct. That's why they call it an opinion. I haven' been to an SEC game in SEC country so I can't comment on that, but IMO the rest of the post is way off base.
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Everything I have said is right F**king dead on.
Can you get a degree from Big Ten University? Can you go to grad school at SEC College? When those entities start issuing diplomas, then you can have some loyalty to them. They are nothing but joint commercial ventures for their affiliated colleges. Do you root for you local bank branch to do well in its commercial loan department? No.
And apparently, you have never been exposed to certain types of hard core SEC fans, because in fact I have had some of them tell me that "The South has risen again", or "SEC football vindicates us for the War of Northern Aggression", and yes, many of them do display the Confederate Flag, which to many is a symbol of racism....and they know it, and that is why they do it. They fly that symbol of racism, yet root for all the black players on their teams.
Obviously I am not talking about a guy like ballpeen who is clearly not one of those types, but those types are out there.
Just because you think that the last sentence or two is right doesn't make your whole post dead on! Ans just because it is your opinion doen't make it correct. That's why they call it an opinion. I haven' been to an SEC game in SEC country so I can't comment on that, but IMO the rest of the post is way off base.
Just because you think that the last sentence or two is right doesn't make your whole post dead on! Ans just because it is your opinion doen't make it correct. That's why they call it an opinion. I haven' been to an SEC game in SEC country so I can't comment on that, but IMO the rest of the post is way off base.
First off, you haven't even specified what it is that you actually disagree with me on. You just said "that ain't right". What ain't right?
Much of what I said is fact, and you can't have an opinion about fact. Facts are either right or wrong, and my facts are right. If you have an opinion of mine you disagree with, specify.
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Think what you want.
I want every team in the SEC undefeated until we play them.
In case you hadn't noticed, strength of schedule is a big part of the BCS formula.
It doesn't help OSU one bit to beat a Michigan team the last week of the season if they have lost 3-4 games.
It doesn't work that way in the NFL, but it is still the same attitude for me.
I suppose part of that is we have sucked ass for so long it somehow makes me feel better about the losses if the teams in our division beat up other teams in other divisions and go deep in to the playoffs.
Again, this isn't regular season. I want them to lose every week so maybe we can squeak in to the playoffs with our usual 4-5 wins.
OK, a couple of things: 1. The F**k it does help to beat Michigan if they have lost 3-4 games. The Ohio State/Michigan rivalry is the biggest thing on the calendar of the NCAA football season. Bigger than any conference championship game, bigger than any BCS title game.
2. Who cares if the rest of your conference gets whacked, as long as your team beats the hell out of all of them. If Ohio State is 8-0 in the Big Ten, and all the other teams are 4-4, that is just fine and dandy with me. As long as they also win their out of conference games, that Ohio State team is going to be in the National Championship game. If Florida, your team, goes 12-0, and the rest of the SEC winds up 6-6, who the frak cares. Florida too, is going to be in the BCS title game.
3. Once the season is over, and the Conference title games are played and the BCS rankings are completed, why would you care about the SEC or whoever winning over another team from another conference? You gain nothing by it except some internal, misguided peacock mindphuk satisfaction. If Ohio State is playing Florida in the National title game, do I give a rat's ass if Wisconsin beats Texas A&M in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl? Or if Minnesota beats Washington State in the Insight.com Bowl.
That is absurd thinking in my view.
As I have said to several of the SEC blowhards: You ain't going to change the result of the Civil War because of a few football games that happen now 150 years later. Get over it. You lost. Quit flying your F**king Confederate Flag. If the SEC owes its success to anyone it is the great great great grandsons of those slaves you fought so desperately to keep in chains.
OK, a couple of things: 1. The F**k it does help to beat Michigan if they have lost 3-4 games. The Ohio State/Michigan rivalry is the biggest thing on the calendar of the NCAA football season. Bigger than any conference championship game, bigger than any BCS title game.
Ok...I quit reading there...you are living in the 60's.
The OSU/Mich game wasn't even on the air here the last couple of years as the national game..
I think you are drinking a little too much Big 10 Kool-Aid and not paying attention to what is happening to college football around the country. (shrug)
I'll be honest...as I copied I noticed some comment about a Confederate Flag......oh well, probably just as well I didn't read it. (double shrug)
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Think what you want.
I want every team in the SEC undefeated until we play them.
In case you hadn't noticed, strength of schedule is a big part of the BCS formula.
It doesn't help OSU one bit to beat a Michigan team the last week of the season if they have lost 3-4 games.
It doesn't work that way in the NFL, but it is still the same attitude for me.
I suppose part of that is we have sucked ass for so long it somehow makes me feel better about the losses if the teams in our division beat up other teams in other divisions and go deep in to the playoffs.
Again, this isn't regular season. I want them to lose every week so maybe we can squeak in to the playoffs with our usual 4-5 wins.
OK, a couple of things: 1. The F**k it does help to beat Michigan if they have lost 3-4 games. The Ohio State/Michigan rivalry is the biggest thing on the calendar of the NCAA football season. Bigger than any conference championship game, bigger than any BCS title game.
2. Who cares if the rest of your conference gets whacked, as long as your team beats the hell out of all of them. If Ohio State is 8-0 in the Big Ten, and all the other teams are 4-4, that is just fine and dandy with me. As long as they also win their out of conference games, that Ohio State team is going to be in the National Championship game. If Florida, your team, goes 12-0, and the rest of the SEC winds up 6-6, who the frak cares. Florida too, is going to be in the BCS title game.
3. Once the season is over, and the Conference title games are played and the BCS rankings are completed, why would you care about the SEC or whoever winning over another team from another conference? You gain nothing by it except some internal, misguided peacock mindphuk satisfaction. If Ohio State is playing Florida in the National title game, do I give a rat's ass if Wisconsin beats Texas A&M in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl? Or if Minnesota beats Washington State in the Insight.com Bowl.
That is absurd thinking in my view.
As I have said to several of the SEC blowhards: You ain't going to change the result of the Civil War because of a few football games that happen now 150 years later. Get over it. You lost. Quit flying your F**king Confederate Flag. If the SEC owes its success to anyone it is the great great great grandsons of those slaves you fought so desperately to keep in chains.
Ok you asked me to give you specifics:
OK, a couple of things: 1. The F**k it does help to beat Michigan if they have lost 3-4 games. The Ohio State/Michigan rivalry is the biggest thing on the calendar of the NCAA football season. Bigger than any conference championship game, bigger than any BCS title game.
That is not a fact at all!!!! This game is big for OSU and Michigan fans. I am sure the rest of the fans out there would rather watch the conference title games, bowl games or national title games.
2. Who cares if the rest of your conference gets whacked, as long as your team beats the hell out of all of them. If Ohio State is 8-0 in the Big Ten, and all the other teams are 4-4, that is just fine and dandy with me. As long as they also win their out of conference games, that Ohio State team is going to be in the National Championship game. If Florida, your team, goes 12-0, and the rest of the SEC winds up 6-6, who the frak cares. Florida too, is going to be in the BCS title game.
Strength of schedule is important in determining the ranking of the teams in the nation therefore if everybody in the big ten that OSU plays has a 6-6 record instead of a 8-4 record at the end of the season then OSU will gain less points and could then be ranked lower. There is no garrantee that the Buckeyes will be playing in the BCS championship game against the Gators if they both go undefeated, but since the teams generally have a higher strength of schedule there is a good chance.
3. Once the season is over, and the Conference title games are played and the BCS rankings are completed, why would you care about the SEC or whoever winning over another team from another conference? You gain nothing by it except some internal, misguided peacock mindphuk satisfaction. If Ohio State is playing Florida in the National title game, do I give a rat's ass if Wisconsin beats Texas A&M in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl? Or if Minnesota beats Washington State in the Insight.com Bowl.
I don't know if you care but I surely do! The showing of teams in the bowl games helps gets the teams better bowl invites next year and increases the money generated by the schools. And as popularity and respect for these teams grow recruiting improves, money to the schools improve, and ultimately the tv contracts improve which equals big money for all schools in the conference including your Buckeyes!
That is absurd thinking in my view.
As I have said to several of the SEC blowhards: You ain't going to change the result of the Civil War because of a few football games that happen now 150 years later. Get over it. You lost. Quit flying your F**king Confederate Flag. If the SEC owes its success to anyone it is the great great great grandsons of those slaves you fought so desperately to keep in chains.
So I think that i have proven my point that non of this was correct or fact.
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