How can one be a fan of both
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Also, remember that the biggest comment that I objected to was the statement that "It doesn't help Ohio State to beat a Michigan team that has 3 or 4 losses". Since when has beating Michigan not become important. Justify that.
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Think what you want.
I want every team in the SEC undefeated until we play them.
In case you hadn't noticed, strength of schedule is a big part of the BCS formula.
It doesn't help OSU one bit to beat a Michigan team the last week of the season if they have lost 3-4 games.
It doesn't work that way in the NFL, but it is still the same attitude for me.
I suppose part of that is we have sucked ass for so long it somehow makes me feel better about the losses if the teams in our division beat up other teams in other divisions and go deep in to the playoffs.
Again, this isn't regular season. I want them to lose every week so maybe we can squeak in to the playoffs with our usual 4-5 wins.
OK, a couple of things: 1. The F**k it does help to beat Michigan if they have lost 3-4 games. The Ohio State/Michigan rivalry is the biggest thing on the calendar of the NCAA football season. Bigger than any conference championship game, bigger than any BCS title game.
2. Who cares if the rest of your conference gets whacked, as long as your team beats the hell out of all of them. If Ohio State is 8-0 in the Big Ten, and all the other teams are 4-4, that is just fine and dandy with me. As long as they also win their out of conference games, that Ohio State team is going to be in the National Championship game. If Florida, your team, goes 12-0, and the rest of the SEC winds up 6-6, who the frak cares. Florida too, is going to be in the BCS title game.
3. Once the season is over, and the Conference title games are played and the BCS rankings are completed, why would you care about the SEC or whoever winning over another team from another conference? You gain nothing by it except some internal, misguided peacock mindphuk satisfaction. If Ohio State is playing Florida in the National title game, do I give a rat's ass if Wisconsin beats Texas A&M in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl? Or if Minnesota beats Washington State in the Insight.com Bowl.
That is absurd thinking in my view.
As I have said to several of the SEC blowhards: You ain't going to change the result of the Civil War because of a few football games that happen now 150 years later. Get over it. You lost. Quit flying your F**king Confederate Flag. If the SEC owes its success to anyone it is the great great great grandsons of those slaves you fought so desperately to keep in chains.
OK, a couple of things: 1. The F**k it does help to beat Michigan if they have lost 3-4 games. The Ohio State/Michigan rivalry is the biggest thing on the calendar of the NCAA football season. Bigger than any conference championship game, bigger than any BCS title game.
2. Who cares if the rest of your conference gets whacked, as long as your team beats the hell out of all of them. If Ohio State is 8-0 in the Big Ten, and all the other teams are 4-4, that is just fine and dandy with me. As long as they also win their out of conference games, that Ohio State team is going to be in the National Championship game. If Florida, your team, goes 12-0, and the rest of the SEC winds up 6-6, who the frak cares. Florida too, is going to be in the BCS title game.
3. Once the season is over, and the Conference title games are played and the BCS rankings are completed, why would you care about the SEC or whoever winning over another team from another conference? You gain nothing by it except some internal, misguided peacock mindphuk satisfaction. If Ohio State is playing Florida in the National title game, do I give a rat's ass if Wisconsin beats Texas A&M in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl? Or if Minnesota beats Washington State in the Insight.com Bowl.
That is absurd thinking in my view.
As I have said to several of the SEC blowhards: You ain't going to change the result of the Civil War because of a few football games that happen now 150 years later. Get over it. You lost. Quit flying your F**king Confederate Flag. If the SEC owes its success to anyone it is the great great great grandsons of those slaves you fought so desperately to keep in chains.
So very true. It's not a real rivalry or you are not a real fan if you can actually root for the other team, especially in a bowl or championship game. The whole conference thing must be some sort of inferiority complex.
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OK, a couple of things: 1. The F**k it does help to beat Michigan if they have lost 3-4 games. The Ohio State/Michigan rivalry is the biggest thing on the calendar of the NCAA football season. Bigger than any conference championship game, bigger than any BCS title game.
Ok...I quit reading there...you are living in the 60's.
The OSU/Mich game wasn't even on the air here the last couple of years as the national game..
I think you are drinking a little too much Big 10 Kool-Aid and not paying attention to what is happening to college football around the country. (shrug)
I'll be honest...as I copied I noticed some comment about a Confederate Flag......oh well, probably just as well I didn't read it. (double shrug)
Ok...I quit reading there...you are living in the 60's.
The OSU/Mich game wasn't even on the air here the last couple of years as the national game..
I think you are drinking a little too much Big 10 Kool-Aid and not paying attention to what is happening to college football around the country. (shrug)
I'll be honest...as I copied I noticed some comment about a Confederate Flag......oh well, probably just as well I didn't read it. (double shrug)
sorry... OSU/Michigan is the biggest rivalry in all of college football.
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I'd say Army/ Navy is the biggest rivalry.
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OK, a couple of things: 1. The F**k it does help to beat Michigan if they have lost 3-4 games. The Ohio State/Michigan rivalry is the biggest thing on the calendar of the NCAA football season. Bigger than any conference championship game, bigger than any BCS title game.
2. Who cares if the rest of your conference gets whacked, as long as your team beats the hell out of all of them. If Ohio State is 8-0 in the Big Ten, and all the other teams are 4-4, that is just fine and dandy with me. As long as they also win their out of conference games, that Ohio State team is going to be in the National Championship game. If Florida, your team, goes 12-0, and the rest of the SEC winds up 6-6, who the frak cares. Florida too, is going to be in the BCS title game.
3. Once the season is over, and the Conference title games are played and the BCS rankings are completed, why would you care about the SEC or whoever winning over another team from another conference? You gain nothing by it except some internal, misguided peacock mindphuk satisfaction. If Ohio State is playing Florida in the National title game, do I give a rat's ass if Wisconsin beats Texas A&M in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl? Or if Minnesota beats Washington State in the Insight.com Bowl.
That is absurd thinking in my view.
As I have said to several of the SEC blowhards: You ain't going to change the result of the Civil War because of a few football games that happen now 150 years later. Get over it. You lost. Quit flying your F**king Confederate Flag. If the SEC owes its success to anyone it is the great great great grandsons of those slaves you fought so desperately to keep in chains.
So very true. It's not a real rivalry or you are not a real fan if you can actually root for the other team, especially in a bowl or championship game. The whole conference thing must be some sort of inferiority complex.
So very true. It's not a real rivalry or you are not a real fan if you can actually root for the other team, especially in a bowl or championship game. The whole conference thing must be some sort of inferiority complex.
I really was not kidding about the whole Civil War vindication thing with some of these SEC fans. And it just seems to be them. For instance, the ACC is located in as many of the former CSA states as the SEC, but they don't seem to have the same issue. ACC has teams in Florida/Georgia/South Carolina/North Carolina/Virginia
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So very true. It's not a real rivalry or you are not a real fan if you can actually root for the other team, especially in a bowl or championship game. The whole conference thing must be some sort of inferiority complex.
I really was not kidding about the whole Civil War vindication thing with some of these SEC fans. And it just seems to be them. For instance, the ACC is located in as many of the former CSA states as the SEC, but they don't seem to have the same issue. ACC has teams in Florida/Georgia/South Carolina/North Carolina/Virginia
I really was not kidding about the whole Civil War vindication thing with some of these SEC fans.
I know...and that is kind of scary to be honest.
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I really was not kidding about the whole Civil War vindication thing with some of these SEC fans.
I know...and that is kind of scary to be honest.
I know...and that is kind of scary to be honest.
Trust me, it's still a big issue for people for some reason. In a restaurant in Orlando with my old boss and his wife I remarked how I was from Lancaster, OH, birthplace of General Sherman who burned Atlanta. For some reason she thought I should not talk about it so loudly, then went on about how they still pay extra taxes levied onto them by the north or some BS. It's still a sore spot for people for some reason.
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I am a total Buckeye fan and have to say the OSU / Mich rivalry is about as much a rivalry as Browns / Steelers.
One sided and not much hope of changing . The Browns / Steeleers rivalry is about to return.
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I am a total Buckeye fan and have to say the OSU / Mich rivalry is about as much a rivalry as Browns / Steelers.
One sided and not much hope of changing . The Browns / Steeleers rivalry is about to return.
I am a total Buckeye fan and have to say the OSU / Mich rivalry is about as much a rivalry as Browns / Steelers.
One sided and not much hope of changing . The Browns / Steeleers rivalry is about to return.
I'd have to agree there.
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I'd say Army/ Navy is the biggest rivalry.
Here you go. Read it and weep:
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I'd say Army/ Navy is the biggest rivalry.
Here you go. Read it and weep:
Here you go. Read it and weep:
What? No Browns-Steelers?????
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I grew up in West Virginia where everything is about ther Mountaineers... Both my oldest daughter and me are graduates of Pitt.. My youngest daughter is a junior at Penn State and my wife graduated from Ohio State..
The only thing that we all agree on is that we love the Browns and hate the Steelers...
College football is a trip in my house.....
Peace
T.Dawg
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I grew up in West Virginia where everything is about ther Mountaineers... Both my oldest daughter and me are graduates of Pitt.. My youngest daughter is a junior at Penn State and my wife graduated from Ohio State..
The only thing that we all agree on is that we love the Browns and hate the Steelers...
College football is a trip in my house.....
Peace
T.Dawg
I grew up in West Virginia where everything is about ther Mountaineers... Both my oldest daughter and me are graduates of Pitt.. My youngest daughter is a junior at Penn State and my wife graduated from Ohio State..
The only thing that we all agree on is that we love the Browns and hate the Steelers...College football is a trip in my house.....
Peace
T.Dawg
In the end... that's all that matters!
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I'd say Army/ Navy is the biggest rivalry.
Here you go. Read it and weep:
Here you go. Read it and weep:
Why weep....some ESPN article recapping last century??
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Ballpeen you were right when you said it is completely different in college then in pro. What do you gain by a team being good in your division in pro football? Absolutely nothing. For that reason it doesn't make sense to root for teams for in your division just because they play in your division. In college the money from the bowl games gets divided between the schools in the conference so it makes sense to root for them during the season to get a better bowl, and during bowl games as it makes your conference look better. I root for Michigan every week because I want the S.O.S. and i want to ruin their season like they have ruined ours so many time. However I am also happy if when they lose (see App State).
Ok before I start in on this next little rant let me say the SEC is by far the best conference in college football, but it goes in cycles and they will be down and Big 12 Big 10 Pac 10 will be at the top again. Then they will fall off and another conference will be up there. Sorry I know that you understand how a cycle works.
I hate the fact that SEC fans chant SEC SEC blah blah. It just a way for schools to take credit for a championship that their team was not involved in. It doesn't matter that your team is in that conference. You can root for that team because they are in your conference but rooting for the conference as a whole is just a way of taking credit for another team's work. That's like my beloved Buckeyes play in the NCAA so I just chant NCAA NCAA and one of "my" teams wins the championship every year (just trying to make a point).
I know you will probably dispute everything I have said but that's the fun of these message boards
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Ballpeen you were right when you said it is completely different in college then in pro. What do you gain by a team being good in your division in pro football? Absolutely nothing. For that reason it doesn't make sense to root for teams for in your division just because they play in your division. In college the money from the bowl games gets divided between the schools in the conference so it makes sense to root for them during the season to get a better bowl, and during bowl games as it makes your conference look better. I root for Michigan every week because I want the S.O.S. and i want to ruin their season like they have ruined ours so many time. However I am also happy if when they lose (see App State).
Ok before I start in on this next little rant let me say the SEC is by far the best conference in college football, but it goes in cycles and they will be down and Big 12 Big 10 Pac 10 will be at the top again. Then they will fall off and another conference will be up there. Sorry I know that you understand how a cycle works.
I hate the fact that SEC fans chant SEC SEC blah blah. It just a way for schools to take credit for a championship that their team was not involved in. It doesn't matter that your team is in that conference. You can root for that team because they are in your conference but rooting for the conference as a whole is just a way of taking credit for another team's work. That's like my beloved Buckeyes play in the NCAA so I just chant NCAA NCAA and one of "my" teams wins the championship every year (just trying to make a point).
I know you will probably dispute everything I have said but that's the fun of these message boards
Ballpeen you were right when you said it is completely different in college then in pro. What do you gain by a team being good in your division in pro football? Absolutely nothing. For that reason it doesn't make sense to root for teams for in your division just because they play in your division. In college the money from the bowl games gets divided between the schools in the conference so it makes sense to root for them during the season to get a better bowl, and during bowl games as it makes your conference look better. I root for Michigan every week because I want the S.O.S. and i want to ruin their season like they have ruined ours so many time. However I am also happy if when they lose (see App State).
Ok before I start in on this next little rant let me say the SEC is by far the best conference in college football, but it goes in cycles and they will be down and Big 12 Big 10 Pac 10 will be at the top again. Then they will fall off and another conference will be up there. Sorry I know that you understand how a cycle works.
I hate the fact that SEC fans chant SEC SEC blah blah. It just a way for schools to take credit for a championship that their team was not involved in. It doesn't matter that your team is in that conference. You can root for that team because they are in your conference but rooting for the conference as a whole is just a way of taking credit for another team's work. That's like my beloved Buckeyes play in the NCAA so I just chant NCAA NCAA and one of "my" teams wins the championship every year (just trying to make a point).
I know you will probably dispute everything I have said but that's the fun of these message boards
SEC SEC just rolls right off the tongue though. NCAA NCAA or BIG 10 BIG 10 just doesn't have the same effect.
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Ballpeen you were right when you said it is completely different in college then in pro. What do you gain by a team being good in your division in pro football? Absolutely nothing. For that reason it doesn't make sense to root for teams for in your division just because they play in your division. In college the money from the bowl games gets divided between the schools in the conference so it makes sense to root for them during the season to get a better bowl, and during bowl games as it makes your conference look better. I root for Michigan every week because I want the S.O.S. and i want to ruin their season like they have ruined ours so many time. However I am also happy if when they lose (see App State).
Ok before I start in on this next little rant let me say the SEC is by far the best conference in college football, but it goes in cycles and they will be down and Big 12 Big 10 Pac 10 will be at the top again. Then they will fall off and another conference will be up there. Sorry I know that you understand how a cycle works.
I hate the fact that SEC fans chant SEC SEC blah blah. It just a way for schools to take credit for a championship that their team was not involved in. It doesn't matter that your team is in that conference. You can root for that team because they are in your conference but rooting for the conference as a whole is just a way of taking credit for another team's work. That's like my beloved Buckeyes play in the NCAA so I just chant NCAA NCAA and one of "my" teams wins the championship every year (just trying to make a point).
I know you will probably dispute everything I have said but that's the fun of these message boards
Ballpeen you were right when you said it is completely different in college then in pro. What do you gain by a team being good in your division in pro football? Absolutely nothing. For that reason it doesn't make sense to root for teams for in your division just because they play in your division. In college the money from the bowl games gets divided between the schools in the conference so it makes sense to root for them during the season to get a better bowl, and during bowl games as it makes your conference look better. I root for Michigan every week because I want the S.O.S. and i want to ruin their season like they have ruined ours so many time. However I am also happy if when they lose (see App State).
Ok before I start in on this next little rant let me say the SEC is by far the best conference in college football, but it goes in cycles and they will be down and Big 12 Big 10 Pac 10 will be at the top again. Then they will fall off and another conference will be up there. Sorry I know that you understand how a cycle works.
I hate the fact that SEC fans chant SEC SEC blah blah. It just a way for schools to take credit for a championship that their team was not involved in. It doesn't matter that your team is in that conference. You can root for that team because they are in your conference but rooting for the conference as a whole is just a way of taking credit for another team's work. That's like my beloved Buckeyes play in the NCAA so I just chant NCAA NCAA and one of "my" teams wins the championship every year (just trying to make a point).
I know you will probably dispute everything I have said but that's the fun of these message boards
Not going to dispute.
As I said earlier, it is simply for my psychological well being.
If my team loses a bunch of in division games against teams that drive deep in to the playoffs or win the SB, it makes be feel better about the losses. IMO it makes us look a bit better than the record indicates.
I also said much of it stems from my love for college football.
And for the record, it isn't so much root for them or be a fan of them....I am a fan of the Browns. It's simply a matter of pulling for them in the playoffs.
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well that proves you are mental midget
Look pal, I went easy on you. Did I start with any name calling? No! I politely stated my opinion , while others continue to rip you to shreds. Sounds to me like you're just another front runner!
Look pal, I went easy on you. Did I start with any name calling? No! I politely stated my opinion , while others continue to rip you to shreds. Sounds to me like you're just another front runner!
yep i just been front runner since 1956 rooting for Steelers and Browns...........and you are just brilliant telling me I cannot be what I am and a frontriunner for mor than fifty year......maybe thinking and an apology would work for you........or do you have reading comprehension deficit or living in lala.........any solution will work
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Nice post! I agree! And wow people really hate rich. I really dont care if he is a Steeler fan or stupid or gay or whatever. Hate is such a waste of time. But as for his and your posts. I root for the Indians and the Reds. Different leagues so I can. When they play each other I ALWAYS root for the Indians. But if they both have great season like they did before the darn strike in 94 then all of us Ohioans benefit emotionally and financially. I root for the Browns in football. Pretty much the only team that I root for. With that being said, I do not hate the Steelers and never have even before I learned what a waste of time hate is. I will root for the Steelers in the following times.
When it helps the Browns move up in the standings (like by beating Cincy for example)
If they play in the superbowl or playoffs and we aren't in and I don't really care for the other teams.
I do think the two cities have a great deal in common and I have a lot of respect for what the Steelers and their organization has done over the years. I guess I come pretty close to agreeing with the guy that most of you seem to hate! OH NO LOOKOUT HERE COMES THEBROWNSBOARD.COM LYNCHMOB RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!
I don't hate the guy. I don't like that right off the bat he insulted me just because I feel you can't be a fan of both the Browns and the Steelers. It just doesn't make sense to me. It was an opinion, and it wasn't meant as an insult to Rich, which is what I am sure that he is used to here. I can see why you would root for the Steelers to help the Browns, and I suppose that I would probably do the same. OK I'll agree... hate is a strong word, so I'll say I STRONGLY DISLIKE the Steelers.
I don't hate the guy. I don't like that right off the bat he insulted me just because I feel you can't be a fan of both the Browns and the Steelers. It just doesn't make sense to me. It was an opinion, and it wasn't meant as an insult to Rich, which is what I am sure that he is used to here. I can see why you would root for the Steelers to help the Browns, and I suppose that I would probably do the same. OK I'll agree... hate is a strong word, so I'll say I STRONGLY DISLIKE the Steelers.
I insutled you????????? now that is funny........by stating what I AM........and you said I can't be what I am. Are you really that informed to tell me I cannot be what I am. Are you a better fan that you are insulted because I made a case I am what what I am.........YOU should just APOLOGIZE....to me....it is what it is live with it
Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes
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