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  • @rich4eagle said:

    Ytown guys have the biggest stiffest boners in the world.....and balls two..........that is what it takes to root for two bitter rivals..........big COHONES

    Actually, it takes bigger cahones to root for one team in a bitter rivalry than both. If you root for both, nobody in either city will take your fandom seriously. You become a joke, and people blow you off.

    But if you are a rabid fan of one team, and are willing to sit in the "dawgpound" of the other team in your colors, that takes cahones.

    But if you can't decide which team you like best and root for both to win, it just makes you a jelly donut. You can't decide if you are pie or a donut! Both may be tasty, but decide damnit!

    @thaak said:

    Actually, it takes bigger cahones to root for one team in a bitter rivalry than both. If you root for both, nobody in either city will take your fandom seriously. You become a joke, and people blow you off.

    But if you are a rabid fan of one team, and are willing to sit in the "dawgpound" of the other team in your colors, that takes cahones.

    But if you can't decide which team you like best and root for both to win, it just makes you a jelly donut. You can't decide if you are pie or a donut! Both may be tasty, but decide damnit!

    Oh Andy chill out............that is like saying if you are not a Christian you are going to hell.............and yep idiots believe that

    I rooted for both teams since before you were rattling in your fathers balls...........So Please do not Say what makes a good fan.........

  • @thaak said:

    Actually, it takes bigger cahones to root for one team in a bitter rivalry than both. If you root for both, nobody in either city will take your fandom seriously. You become a joke, and people blow you off.

    But if you are a rabid fan of one team, and are willing to sit in the "dawgpound" of the other team in your colors, that takes cahones.

    But if you can't decide which team you like best and root for both to win, it just makes you a jelly donut. You can't decide if you are pie or a donut! Both may be tasty, but decide damnit!

    Oh Andy chill out............that is like saying if you are not a Christian you are going to hell.............and yep idiots believe that

    I rooted for both teams since before you were rattling in your fathers balls...........So Please do not Say what makes a good fan.........

    @rich4eagle said:

    Oh Andy chill out............that is like saying if you are not a Christian you are going to hell.............and yep idiots believe that

    I rooted for both teams since before you were rattling in your fathers balls...........So Please do not Say what makes a good fan.........

    Well its true dude... everyone but my paternal family is going to hell.

  • @rich4eagle said:

    Oh Andy chill out............that is like saying if you are not a Christian you are going to hell.............and yep idiots believe that

    I rooted for both teams since before you were rattling in your fathers balls...........So Please do not Say what makes a good fan.........

    Well its true dude... everyone but my paternal family is going to hell.

    @thaak said:

    Well its true dude... everyone but my paternal family is going to hell.

    Whatever you do what have to do................Zombo and I never made a bet............and you just got this erection that will no go down

    peace.......................call on Jesus to strike me with lighhtening

  • i hope the steelers go 0-16 every season.

    if they were to make it to the super bowl, i would wish them to lose by a record margin. and lose their starting quarterback to a rotator cuff injury.

    steelers players arent real people.

    @19browns64 said:

    i hope the steelers go 0-16 every season.

    if they were to make it to the super bowl, i would wish them to lose by a record margin. and lose their starting quarterback to a rotator cuff injury.

    steelers players arent real people.

    You forgot the part about Hines Ward getting his ugly face smashed in and his big buck teeth knocked down his throat.

  • i hope the steelers go 0-16 every season.

    if they were to make it to the super bowl, i would wish them to lose by a record margin. and lose their starting quarterback to a rotator cuff injury.

    steelers players arent real people.

    @19browns64 said:

    i hope the steelers go 0-16 every season.

    if they were to make it to the super bowl, i would wish them to lose by a record margin. and lose their starting quarterback to a rotator cuff injury.

    steelers players arent real people.

    Ditto on everything, except I won't go as far as to wish an injury on anyone.

  • Isn't it funny how the residents of the countries nastiest cities can actually convince themselves that these absurdities are true. Imagine someone saying that Jim Brown and Bam Morris were actually equal as football players? This kind of statement is why you guys are so funny to play with.

    That someone can convince themselves that absurdities are true is not surprising at all. You are a perfect example of your statement.

  • @sj_browns said:

    good post. i don't care what forbes or anyone else says, pittsburgh is no better than cleveland. i lived in pittsburgh for several years (college) and the greater pittsburgh area is no better than the greater cleveland area. this is just the nonsense rant from low life, loser trolls who have too much time on their hands.

    these steeler trolls are nothing more than grown men on the net acting like children in a toy store, spouting off at the mouth with their pittsburgh is a better city blah blah blah rhetoric. same old tired posts from the same old tired trolls.

    they must not have much of a life. as much as they post on this browns board, added with the amount of time they post on steelers boards equals no life. period, end of story.

    And I would imagine that when you lived there, and mentioned that you were from Cleveland you caught a ton of crap for it.

    @djdawg2010 said:

    And I would imagine that when you lived there, and mentioned that you were from Cleveland you caught a ton of crap for it.

    Of course you catch sh.it but it's never malicious. I went to college in Ohio and I caught plenty of sh.it but most of the time unless alcohol was involved the exchanges were friendly and funny. I've spent plenty of time in both cities and parts of Cleveland are certainly nice but Pittsburgh was rated the nations most livable city for the second time for a reason. I fully expect everyone here from either base to defend their respective cities. You should be proud of your home town and really thats what it all boils down too. A non-biased opinion gives the nod to Pittsburgh as evidenced by the most livable city nod. All of which doesn't mean Cleveland can't be enjoyed or loved. It's a matter of opinion. It just so happens that Pittsburgh lands on the favorable side more often. Pittsburgh really is a great, great city and it's a shame most of you won't enjoy it because of your hatred for the Steelers. I really like Columbus and Cleveland has it's moments.

  • I love Pittsburgh....hahaha

  • I love Pittsburgh....hahaha

    nmills said:

    I love Pittsburgh....hahaha

    A parody/joke video?

  • Formerly Stone said:

    You are either a liar, stupid, or both......I'll give you benefit of the doubt and assume your college years were a waste of time.

    you never present any kind of facts. all you do is tell corny jokes and make false statements. the more you post, the more you prove my point about pittsburgh trolls. you're not even smart enough to realize how dumb you make yourself look. you're just a sad excuse for a human being and if you and your kind want to be court jesters for this board, i'll be more than happy to laugh at you fools every time. thanks for playing.

  • @djdawg2010 said:

    And I would imagine that when you lived there, and mentioned that you were from Cleveland you caught a ton of crap for it.

    Of course you catch sh.it but it's never malicious. I went to college in Ohio and I caught plenty of sh.it but most of the time unless alcohol was involved the exchanges were friendly and funny. I've spent plenty of time in both cities and parts of Cleveland are certainly nice but Pittsburgh was rated the nations most livable city for the second time for a reason. I fully expect everyone here from either base to defend their respective cities. You should be proud of your home town and really thats what it all boils down too. A non-biased opinion gives the nod to Pittsburgh as evidenced by the most livable city nod. All of which doesn't mean Cleveland can't be enjoyed or loved. It's a matter of opinion. It just so happens that Pittsburgh lands on the favorable side more often. Pittsburgh really is a great, great city and it's a shame most of you won't enjoy it because of your hatred for the Steelers. I really like Columbus and Cleveland has it's moments.

    Rorbotron said:

    Of course you catch sh.it but it's never malicious. I went to college in Ohio and I caught plenty of sh.it but most of the time unless alcohol was involved the exchanges were friendly and funny. I've spent plenty of time in both cities and parts of Cleveland are certainly nice but Pittsburgh was rated the nations most livable city for the second time for a reason. I fully expect everyone here from either base to defend their respective cities. You should be proud of your home town and really thats what it all boils down too. A non-biased opinion gives the nod to Pittsburgh as evidenced by the most livable city nod. All of which doesn't mean Cleveland can't be enjoyed or loved. It's a matter of opinion. It just so happens that Pittsburgh lands on the favorable side more often. Pittsburgh really is a great, great city and it's a shame most of you won't enjoy it because of your hatred for the Steelers. I really like Columbus and Cleveland has it's moments.

    Of course, those "opinions" about what the most livable cities are change from magazine to magazine, from year to year. Cleveland "won" those polls itself a few years back.

    But you are right, both towns are similar, have plenty to offer and enjoy, and a sports rivalry won't keep me from doing so, though I have no intention to go there soon. However, I had thought about it when I learned that there had been a National Heritage Area, administered by the National Park System that was to be set up there. Now, however I learn that the "Rivers of Steel National Heritage" will not be commissioned after all. It seems that the politician or politicians who were proposing it (from PA) have apparently overextended themselves as they also wanted essentially the entire state of PA to be a National Heritage area. They already have the "Oil Region" NHA, and the "Paths of Progress" NHA, and the Delaware-Lehigh Valley NHA, and the Lackawanna Valley NHA, and the Schuykill Valley NHA, and the Potomac NHA, and the Chesapeake Bay NHA, like I said, the entire damn state. Apparently the President and Congress said "that's enough", most other states have maybe one, two, or no NHA's...it is absurd to fund all these requests for Pennsylvania."

    So, I will keep my eyes open on that. If it falls, I won't go, but if it succeeds I may check it out.

    I have been to every major city in the US and Canada, and there are a lot of other places I have my eyes on, so Pittsburgh is not a high priority to visit...unless this other thing goes through and is implemented.

    Here is link on this: http://www.nps.gov/state/PA/

    But I can't get the Rivers of Steel link to activate. That may just be my computer, or maybe it has been deleted from the NPS site.

  • Rorbotron said:

    Of course you catch sh.it but it's never malicious. I went to college in Ohio and I caught plenty of sh.it but most of the time unless alcohol was involved the exchanges were friendly and funny. I've spent plenty of time in both cities and parts of Cleveland are certainly nice but Pittsburgh was rated the nations most livable city for the second time for a reason. I fully expect everyone here from either base to defend their respective cities. You should be proud of your home town and really thats what it all boils down too. A non-biased opinion gives the nod to Pittsburgh as evidenced by the most livable city nod. All of which doesn't mean Cleveland can't be enjoyed or loved. It's a matter of opinion. It just so happens that Pittsburgh lands on the favorable side more often. Pittsburgh really is a great, great city and it's a shame most of you won't enjoy it because of your hatred for the Steelers. I really like Columbus and Cleveland has it's moments.

    Of course, those "opinions" about what the most livable cities are change from magazine to magazine, from year to year. Cleveland "won" those polls itself a few years back.

    But you are right, both towns are similar, have plenty to offer and enjoy, and a sports rivalry won't keep me from doing so, though I have no intention to go there soon. However, I had thought about it when I learned that there had been a National Heritage Area, administered by the National Park System that was to be set up there. Now, however I learn that the "Rivers of Steel National Heritage" will not be commissioned after all. It seems that the politician or politicians who were proposing it (from PA) have apparently overextended themselves as they also wanted essentially the entire state of PA to be a National Heritage area. They already have the "Oil Region" NHA, and the "Paths of Progress" NHA, and the Delaware-Lehigh Valley NHA, and the Lackawanna Valley NHA, and the Schuykill Valley NHA, and the Potomac NHA, and the Chesapeake Bay NHA, like I said, the entire damn state. Apparently the President and Congress said "that's enough", most other states have maybe one, two, or no NHA's...it is absurd to fund all these requests for Pennsylvania."

    So, I will keep my eyes open on that. If it falls, I won't go, but if it succeeds I may check it out.

    I have been to every major city in the US and Canada, and there are a lot of other places I have my eyes on, so Pittsburgh is not a high priority to visit...unless this other thing goes through and is implemented.

    Here is link on this: http://www.nps.gov/state/PA/

    But I can't get the Rivers of Steel link to activate. That may just be my computer, or maybe it has been deleted from the NPS site.

    @the-gipper said:

    Of course, those "opinions" about what the most livable cities are change from magazine to magazine, from year to year. Cleveland "won" those polls itself a few years back.

    But you are right, both towns are similar, have plenty to offer and enjoy, and a sports rivalry won't keep me from doing so, though I have no intention to go there soon. However, I had thought about it when I learned that there had been a National Heritage Area, administered by the National Park System that was to be set up there. Now, however I learn that the "Rivers of Steel National Heritage" will not be commissioned after all. It seems that the politician or politicians who were proposing it (from PA) have apparently overextended themselves as they also wanted essentially the entire state of PA to be a National Heritage area. They already have the "Oil Region" NHA, and the "Paths of Progress" NHA, and the Delaware-Lehigh Valley NHA, and the Lackawanna Valley NHA, and the Schuykill Valley NHA, and the Potomac NHA, and the Chesapeake Bay NHA, like I said, the entire damn state. Apparently the President and Congress said "that's enough", most other states have maybe one, two, or no NHA's...it is absurd to fund all these requests for Pennsylvania."

    So, I will keep my eyes open on that. If it falls, I won't go, but if it succeeds I may check it out.

    I have been to every major city in the US and Canada, and there are a lot of other places I have my eyes on, so Pittsburgh is not a high priority to visit...unless this other thing goes through and is implemented.

    Here is link on this: http://www.nps.gov/state/PA/

    But I can't get the Rivers of Steel link to activate. That may just be my computer, or maybe it has been deleted from the NPS site.

    And that is exactly what it is an opinion!!!! I don't give a flying f*** about what Forbes or any other publication says. Considering they have a bias toward our town anyway. I'll be the judge of what I like, and what I don't like. I don't need a magazine to tell me. Sure Pittsburgh isn't all that bad, but it's not somewhere I would want to relocate to, and prefer the Cleveland area. Honestly, there are ONLY two other cold weather cities that I would want to relocate to, and that is Chicago or NYC. Other than that it would have to be a boat load of cash for me to even consider anywhere else in between.

  • We all know that Pitttttsburgh is the most livable city, for INBRED HICKS! 😆

  • @the-gipper said:

    Of course, those "opinions" about what the most livable cities are change from magazine to magazine, from year to year. Cleveland "won" those polls itself a few years back.

    But you are right, both towns are similar, have plenty to offer and enjoy, and a sports rivalry won't keep me from doing so, though I have no intention to go there soon. However, I had thought about it when I learned that there had been a National Heritage Area, administered by the National Park System that was to be set up there. Now, however I learn that the "Rivers of Steel National Heritage" will not be commissioned after all. It seems that the politician or politicians who were proposing it (from PA) have apparently overextended themselves as they also wanted essentially the entire state of PA to be a National Heritage area. They already have the "Oil Region" NHA, and the "Paths of Progress" NHA, and the Delaware-Lehigh Valley NHA, and the Lackawanna Valley NHA, and the Schuykill Valley NHA, and the Potomac NHA, and the Chesapeake Bay NHA, like I said, the entire damn state. Apparently the President and Congress said "that's enough", most other states have maybe one, two, or no NHA's...it is absurd to fund all these requests for Pennsylvania."

    So, I will keep my eyes open on that. If it falls, I won't go, but if it succeeds I may check it out.

    I have been to every major city in the US and Canada, and there are a lot of other places I have my eyes on, so Pittsburgh is not a high priority to visit...unless this other thing goes through and is implemented.

    Here is link on this: http://www.nps.gov/state/PA/

    But I can't get the Rivers of Steel link to activate. That may just be my computer, or maybe it has been deleted from the NPS site.

    And that is exactly what it is an opinion!!!! I don't give a flying f*** about what Forbes or any other publication says. Considering they have a bias toward our town anyway. I'll be the judge of what I like, and what I don't like. I don't need a magazine to tell me. Sure Pittsburgh isn't all that bad, but it's not somewhere I would want to relocate to, and prefer the Cleveland area. Honestly, there are ONLY two other cold weather cities that I would want to relocate to, and that is Chicago or NYC. Other than that it would have to be a boat load of cash for me to even consider anywhere else in between.

    @djdawg2010 said:

    And that is exactly what it is an opinion!!!! I don't give a flying f*** about what Forbes or any other publication says. Considering they have a bias toward our town anyway. I'll be the judge of what I like, and what I don't like. I don't need a magazine to tell me. Sure Pittsburgh isn't all that bad, but it's not somewhere I would want to relocate to, and prefer the Cleveland area. Honestly, there are ONLY two other cold weather cities that I would want to relocate to, and that is Chicago or NYC. Other than that it would have to be a boat load of cash for me to even consider anywhere else in between.

    Who said you had too? The only reason it's brought up is because of the countless number of border line autistics on this board that automatically proclaim Pittsburgh some sort of trash dump when it's the polar opposite. It's getting the recognition for a reason and taking strides to make something of itself. The city has a whole has gone through a DRASTIC transformation since the Steel collapse and has really become a great place to live. The only reason people here won't say it is because of sport affiliation. I by and large hate Cleveland and it has nothing to do with sports. Certain areas are nice but for the most part IN MY OPINION it isn't bringing much to the table. I like the west side market and playhouse square is nice. Otherwise it's forgettable, once again my opinion. I could also never live in Chicago or NYC full time. Nice cities but the cost of living is through the roof, crime is through the roof and it's people on top of people. Less the case in Chicago but you get the idea.

  • nmills said:

    We've been voted #1 to, everybody gets a turn

    http://www.nortech.org/News/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=39

    http://www.balancedlivingmag.com/2006/July...able%20City.htm

    The Economist rated Cleveland number one once and it's a reputable source. The others you posted would be like me starting a blog and proclaiming Clinton, Ohio has the sexiest county in the country. Forbes, The Economist and a few others that rate routinely. Pittsburgh has pulled it down twice. Either way it doesn't begin to matter because everyone has their own opinion and if you're happy with where you live that's all that matters.

  • nmills said:

    We've been voted #1 to, everybody gets a turn

    http://www.nortech.org/News/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=39

    http://www.balancedlivingmag.com/2006/July...able%20City.htm

    The Economist rated Cleveland number one once and it's a reputable source. The others you posted would be like me starting a blog and proclaiming Clinton, Ohio has the sexiest county in the country. Forbes, The Economist and a few others that rate routinely. Pittsburgh has pulled it down twice. Either way it doesn't begin to matter because everyone has their own opinion and if you're happy with where you live that's all that matters.

    Rorbotron said:

    The Economist rated Cleveland number one once and it's a reputable source. The others you posted would be like me starting a blog and proclaiming Clinton, Ohio has the sexiest county in the country. Forbes, The Economist and a few others that rate routinely. Pittsburgh has pulled it down twice. Either way it doesn't begin to matter because everyone has their own opinion and if you're happy with where you live that's all that matters.

    Thank you! Could Cleveland and NE Ohio be better? ABSOLUTELY! Am I happy for the most part? Yes. My biggest gripe is the weather, which is why I said that I wouldn't move to another cold weather city unless it was Chicago or NYC. Cold is cold, and while some cold weather cities get less snow than Cleveland, it's still cold. Speaking of weather, I really can't complain about this past Spring, and so far Summer. It has been absolutely wonderful. Aside from the fact that football is played in the Fall, the end of May through the end of July is my absolute favorite time of year.

  • Bottom line on all this is that between the two cities Pittsburgh is in way better shape. Both have been massively screwed by Republican Politics by shipping Americas wealth building infrastructure overseas while spending all our monies on useless wars and massive increases in military spending of course both with no benefit to either since the infrastructure was outsourced.

    Good reason for both cities to keep voting republican.........DUH........Pittsburgh has done a better job of working in high tech........which still has not been exported

    in any case we are where we are.............a nation sending jobs away.........and demanding they be recreated out of thin air

    sorta like fantasy land in disney

    meanwhile the bickering about which sister city is not a turd is rediculous.............as both slowly become road kill as America commits itself to destroying itself

  • Bottom line on all this is that between the two cities Pittsburgh is in way better shape. Both have been massively screwed by Republican Politics by shipping Americas wealth building infrastructure overseas while spending all our monies on useless wars and massive increases in military spending of course both with no benefit to either since the infrastructure was outsourced.

    Good reason for both cities to keep voting republican.........DUH........Pittsburgh has done a better job of working in high tech........which still has not been exported

    in any case we are where we are.............a nation sending jobs away.........and demanding they be recreated out of thin air

    sorta like fantasy land in disney

    meanwhile the bickering about which sister city is not a turd is rediculous.............as both slowly become road kill as America commits itself to destroying itself

    @rich4eagle said:

    Bottom line on all this is that between the two cities Pittsburgh is in way better shape. Both have been massively screwed by Republican Politics by shipping Americas wealth building infrastructure overseas while spending all our monies on useless wars and massive increases in military spending of course both with no benefit to either since the infrastructure was outsourced.

    Good reason for both cities to keep voting republican.........DUH........Pittsburgh has done a better job of working in high tech........which still has not been exported

    in any case we are where we are.............a nation sending jobs away.........and demanding they be recreated out of thin air

    sorta like fantasy land in disney

    meanwhile the bickering about which sister city is not a turd is rediculous.............as both slowly become road kill as America commits itself to destroying itself

    How about keeping your political bullshit to the political room?

  • @rich4eagle said:

    Bottom line on all this is that between the two cities Pittsburgh is in way better shape. Both have been massively screwed by Republican Politics by shipping Americas wealth building infrastructure overseas while spending all our monies on useless wars and massive increases in military spending of course both with no benefit to either since the infrastructure was outsourced.

    Good reason for both cities to keep voting republican.........DUH........Pittsburgh has done a better job of working in high tech........which still has not been exported

    in any case we are where we are.............a nation sending jobs away.........and demanding they be recreated out of thin air

    sorta like fantasy land in disney

    meanwhile the bickering about which sister city is not a turd is rediculous.............as both slowly become road kill as America commits itself to destroying itself

    How about keeping your political bullshit to the political room?

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    How about keeping your political bullshit to the political room?

    He's not incorrect in that regard and it does fit in to the discussion to a point. Outsourcing is a huge problem and Pittsburgh has sustained the recession because of all the up and coming green technology and the medical industry. Other commodities play a factor as well. Either way if anyone actually took the time to take the colored glasses off I'm sure most would really enjoy the city of Pittsburgh. Most of my friends that are Browns diehards say they are "ashamed to admit" that they really like Pittsburgh after giving it a chance. Do I care if anyone here does? No but seeing as the city is so close you're really doing yourself a disservice but not checking it out in greater detail. A good friend of mine came in to town from Jacksonville. He was born and raised in Strongsville, Ohio. We went down town with my sister and mom. My gf was also with us and we walked for Autism. (My sister is a grad student at Duquense preparing to be a teacher in special education.) Anyway Jason was wearing his Browns hat and a pair of Browns custom Oakley's. He got harassed but it was friendly and we actually ran in to a few Cleveland imports that weren't flying the colors that day.

    Either way too each their own.