Browns Season Preview
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The writer notes that the Browns never learn from their mistakes.
Huh? It seems like that's EXACTLY what happened this offseason with Lerner hiring Holmgren to run the organization and not making yet another knee-jerk coaching change.
Will we be great? Probably not. Playoffs are still a dream for Cleveland but certainly not out of the question if our young players play to their potential and we don't suffer any serious injuries to key players. ANYTHING can happen from week to week in the NFL.
We are going to see stories like this nearly every day from national "experts" who have a word count quota to hit and a deadline to meet. Anyone who watched our games last year saw the potential at the end of the season, and also saw that we were a black hole at QB and Delhomme/Wallace are clearly an improvement over Quinn/Anderson.
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All I'm asking for this year just like every year is for the team to be competitive. If the Browns play hard each game and compete I'll be satisfied. The teams that they have fielded with the exception of 2002 and 2007 even 2006 when they went 6-10 have been the only ones that have been truly competitive. It's been an absolute nightmare for the decade. I just hope that the team goes out there and plays hard and keeps the game within 10 points or less. A win would be great, but I for one am sick of the blowouts week in and week out. There were games last year where they did compete and play hard especially the last 4 straight wins but some of those games they didn't even come close to competing. There's a difference between a 3-13 team and a competitive 3-13 team. Yes, they do exist. What I mean is, if a team goes out each week and loses because they're less talented that's fine. What I don't like watching is a team that can play much better than what they did and get run out of the stadium. That's disgusting.
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Good point, I just want to see competition before winning. They kind of go hand to hand if you think about it. That's why being competitive will suffice for me for now. Obviously I don't want to see a team that plays and loses a lot of close games year in and year out. Just compete first and then winning will come.
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Good point, I just want to see competition before winning. They kind of go hand to hand if you think about it. That's why being competitive will suffice for me for now. Obviously I don't want to see a team that plays and loses a lot of close games year in and year out. Just compete first and then winning will come.
Good point, I just want to see competition before winning. They kind of go hand to hand if you think about it. That's why being competitive will suffice for me for now. Obviously I don't want to see a team that plays and loses a lot of close games year in and year out. Just compete first and then winning will come.
Excellent post, IMHO. A friend at work said a losing season is NOT acceptable by any means. I say you have to walk before you can run. I feel the Browns now have viable leadership, better talent, and, regardless of won/lost record, should be much more competitive.
Keep in mind that in 2007, we got lucky...many career seasons, weak schedule, & little to look forward to as evidenced by the fact that Brady (along with other reserves) got no playing time due to Derek's inability to put a game away. The doomsayers can say what they will, but I tend to look at the future, which I believe is bright. As always, I will make no prediction, but I DO think that we will see a better brand of football in Cleveland this year.
Mike
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Good point, I just want to see competition before winning. They kind of go hand to hand if you think about it. That's why being competitive will suffice for me for now. Obviously I don't want to see a team that plays and loses a lot of close games year in and year out. Just compete first and then winning will come.
Good point, I just want to see competition before winning. They kind of go hand to hand if you think about it. That's why being competitive will suffice for me for now. Obviously I don't want to see a team that plays and loses a lot of close games year in and year out. Just compete first and then winning will come.
Im also looking for the team to be competitive game in and game out win or lose, however i cant tolerate another season of losing games because of over-conservative and consistently gutless and stupid playcalling like we seen last year...holmgren should have a motto for both mangini and daboll that reads...play without balls and you both will lose it all....Our defense under ryan should make every game closer and more competitive as long as mangini stays out of the equation...

When you have less talent creativity and balls can be the great equalizer but unfortunately it appears that neither our HC or OC possess these tangible cunning skillsets..
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Good point, I just want to see competition before winning. They kind of go hand to hand if you think about it. That's why being competitive will suffice for me for now. Obviously I don't want to see a team that plays and loses a lot of close games year in and year out. Just compete first and then winning will come.
Im also looking for the team to be competitive game in and game out win or lose, however i cant tolerate another season of losing games because of over-conservative and consistently gutless and stupid playcalling like we seen last year...holmgren should have a motto for both mangini and daboll that reads...play without balls and you both will lose it all....Our defense under ryan should make every game closer and more competitive as long as mangini stays out of the equation...

When you have less talent creativity and balls can be the great equalizer but unfortunately it appears that neither our HC or OC possess these tangible cunning skillsets..
Im also looking for the team to be competitive game in and game out win or lose, however i cant tolerate another season of losing games because of over-conservative and consistently gutless and stupid playcalling like we seen last year...holmgren should have a motto for both mangini and daboll that reads...play without balls and you both will lose it all....Our defense under ryan should make every game closer and more competitive as long as mangini stays out of the equation...

I respect your opinion and I would love nothing more than to win the AFC North and have an explosive offense with a bone crunching defense. But let's be honest for a second. If you have a team that flops and doesn't play hard on the conservative plays just basic, run of the mill plays, what makes you think that any coach would call for deep passes or gadget plays? I want to see the team hustle every play for every second of that game on Thursday, Sunday, or Monday. The games are won and lost by the players. The coaches have their philosophies but it's the players that implement them on every down, quarter, and game. Case and point....Bill Belicheck (spelling) widely considered a genius of strategy (barring the whole taping thing). But without Tom Brady and a select handful of players, he would not be viewed in such a light. Same thing with other good coaches like Jimmy Johnson. Plays can be made on the most simplest design. A simple dive play can explode for a 76 yard dash to the end zone. (Willie Parker Super Bowl XL). The players must play the game to the fullest on every play conservative or not and that's not what I've seen from our beloved Browns.
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Good point, I just want to see competition before winning. They kind of go hand to hand if you think about it. That's why being competitive will suffice for me for now. Obviously I don't want to see a team that plays and loses a lot of close games year in and year out. Just compete first and then winning will come.
Good point, I just want to see competition before winning. They kind of go hand to hand if you think about it. That's why being competitive will suffice for me for now. Obviously I don't want to see a team that plays and loses a lot of close games year in and year out. Just compete first and then winning will come.
We were competitive for the last half of last season. It is time to start winning now. There are no "good" losses.
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I agree with those here that say it is time to win now! This is the NFL. With the way it is set up teams have been known to go from worst to first very quickly. I don't expect the Browns to win the Super Bowl this year, but I do expect the Browns to have a record over .500! I like what I saw at the end last year, and I like our front office. The players didn't quit at the end of the season last year, and I want to see that momentum carried over.
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Lord, I can't even finish that article. Terrible analysis, full of contradictions. Can't believe idiots like that get paid.
Lord, I can't even finish that article. Terrible analysis, full of contradictions. Can't believe idiots like that get paid.
That's going to be the same coat tail riding homo that won't have enough good things to say about the Browns if they emerge from the basement this year. I don't really like listening to analysts because very few can ever admit they were wrong. They just hop from band wagon to band wagon. I can even go as far as to say that I have seen very few true fans of the game that are analysts. They make me laugh. The biggest example was when they were on and off Mark Sanchez's sack all season long. First he was Joe Nameth reborn then he was going to cost the Jets their season then he just might take them to the Super Bowl. It was pure lunacy. Either jump on a band wagon and stay on it or not get on it at all and be objective.
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3-13?
I'm lovin all the haters we can disprove. Just like in 07.
3-13?
I'm lovin all the haters we can disprove. Just like in 07.
OH MY DEAR FREAKIN GOD!!!! put down the bone, stop kicking the horse!!! and quit talking about the '07 season. it's real pathetic that the single decent season you've had in the past DECADE is touted like it was more than a blind squirrel finding a nut.
what about '99?
what about '00?
what about '01?
what about '02?
what about '03?
what about '04?
what about '05?
what about '06?
what about '08?
what about '09?
and now i hear how THIS is gonna be the year you disprove all the haters!?!?!?
ROTFLMFAO!!!!
the team is a joke on everything except defense (u hope) and somehow you browns fans find ways to not only get yourself pumped for the season (wich is fine, i wouldn't want any team's fans to be disinterested before the season even starts) but somehow talk yourselves into believing that you'll be this "amazing breakout team, that silences all the haters and paves the way for a decade of browns domination".
lol.
you guys gonna be lucky to have your team even MATCH what it did last season, let alone improve upon it.
just write this down somewhere so i don't have to remind you guys of it next year, and the next year, and the next year, and the next year, etc...........ad nauseum.
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Your only as good as your last game.......Last I checked we beat you
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3-13?
I'm lovin all the haters we can disprove. Just like in 07.
OH MY DEAR FREAKIN GOD!!!! put down the bone, stop kicking the horse!!! and quit talking about the '07 season. it's real pathetic that the single decent season you've had in the past DECADE is touted like it was more than a blind squirrel finding a nut.
what about '99?
what about '00?
what about '01?
what about '02?
what about '03?
what about '04?
what about '05?
what about '06?
what about '08?
what about '09?
and now i hear how THIS is gonna be the year you disprove all the haters!?!?!?
ROTFLMFAO!!!!
the team is a joke on everything except defense (u hope) and somehow you browns fans find ways to not only get yourself pumped for the season (wich is fine, i wouldn't want any team's fans to be disinterested before the season even starts) but somehow talk yourselves into believing that you'll be this "amazing breakout team, that silences all the haters and paves the way for a decade of browns domination".
lol.
you guys gonna be lucky to have your team even MATCH what it did last season, let alone improve upon it.
just write this down somewhere so i don't have to remind you guys of it next year, and the next year, and the next year, and the next year, etc...........ad nauseum.
Nafreleets said:
OH MY DEAR FREAKIN GOD!!!! put down the bone, stop kicking the horse!!! and quit talking about the '07 season. it's real pathetic that the single decent season you've had in the past DECADE is touted like it was more than a blind squirrel finding a nut.what about '99?
what about '00?
what about '01?
what about '02?
what about '03?
what about '04?
what about '05?
what about '06?
what about '08?
what about '09?
and now i hear how THIS is gonna be the year you disprove all the haters!?!?!?
ROTFLMFAO!!!!
the team is a joke on everything except defense (u hope) and somehow you browns fans find ways to not only get yourself pumped for the season (wich is fine, i wouldn't want any team's fans to be disinterested before the season even starts) but somehow talk yourselves into believing that you'll be this "amazing breakout team, that silences all the haters and paves the way for a decade of browns domination".
lol.
you guys gonna be lucky to have your team even MATCH what it did last season, let alone improve upon it.
just write this down somewhere so i don't have to remind you guys of it next year, and the next year, and the next year, and the next year, etc...........ad nauseum.
i guess homotron finally changed his usename. you're impossible to deal with. try to be nice you still shit all over us. try to be snide and disrespectful and you still come back and shit all over the place. i guess you're just a piece of shit. go home.
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Your only as good as your last game.......Last I checked we beat you
nmills said:
Your only as good as your last game.......Last I checked we beat youso that makes it what?
twice in the last decade?
christ, that should give you guys something to talk about for the next 20yrs!!!!
oh, and to the guy who thinks i'm homotron.............dude, look at my join date.
seriously, a browns fan AND stupid? some people's lives make me appreciate what i have.
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nmills said:
Your only as good as your last game.......Last I checked we beat youso that makes it what?
twice in the last decade?
christ, that should give you guys something to talk about for the next 20yrs!!!!
oh, and to the guy who thinks i'm homotron.............dude, look at my join date.
seriously, a browns fan AND stupid? some people's lives make me appreciate what i have.
Nafreleets said:
so that makes it what?twice in the last decade?
christ, that should give you guys something to talk about for the next 20yrs!!!!
oh, and to the guy who thinks i'm homotron.............dude, look at my join date.
seriously, a browns fan AND stupid? some people's lives make me appreciate what i have.
You'd think he would have a Steelers forum to be on. Look man, it's no secret that you are a fan of one of the greatest franchises in history. The championships don't lie but it gives you little right to come on here and taint the love of the game with you stating the obvious nonsense. 6 championships to none doesn't really require a rocket scientist to get your point. If you were a true fan and you truly appreciate what you have. Go talk about your team with like minded people that's what forums are for. I do believe that you much to discuss about your team. We are fans of the Browns your trash talk won't change that. As futile as your words are you'll keep this behavior up for years, really thinking you're discouraging fans of the rival team. If you want to continue to live this delusion, be my guest.
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Nafreleets said:
OH MY DEAR FREAKIN GOD!!!! put down the bone, stop kicking the horse!!! and quit talking about the '07 season. it's real pathetic that the single decent season you've had in the past DECADE is touted like it was more than a blind squirrel finding a nut.what about '99?
what about '00?
what about '01?
what about '02?
what about '03?
what about '04?
what about '05?
what about '06?
what about '08?
what about '09?
and now i hear how THIS is gonna be the year you disprove all the haters!?!?!?
ROTFLMFAO!!!!
the team is a joke on everything except defense (u hope) and somehow you browns fans find ways to not only get yourself pumped for the season (wich is fine, i wouldn't want any team's fans to be disinterested before the season even starts) but somehow talk yourselves into believing that you'll be this "amazing breakout team, that silences all the haters and paves the way for a decade of browns domination".
lol.
you guys gonna be lucky to have your team even MATCH what it did last season, let alone improve upon it.
just write this down somewhere so i don't have to remind you guys of it next year, and the next year, and the next year, and the next year, etc...........ad nauseum.
i guess homotron finally changed his usename. you're impossible to deal with. try to be nice you still shit all over us. try to be snide and disrespectful and you still come back and shit all over the place. i guess you're just a piece of shit. go home.
i guess homotron finally changed his usename. you're impossible to deal with. try to be nice you still shit all over us. try to be snide and disrespectful and you still come back and shit all over the place. i guess you're just a piece of shit. go home.
Yea definitely not me. I'm going to leave my cute username as well, if anything for a solid reminder of just how childish the moderators are on this message board.
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It's better to be on the bandwagon when it's a winner, which is why the "experts" change their opinions so much.
It's better to be on the bandwagon when it's a winner, which is why the "experts" change their opinions so much.
They would sound so much smarter if they were objective. Come on even you have to admit that they all sound like baffoons come week 8. All the back pedaling starts and excuses get made. I turn it off until the game starts. I may watch the little weather and injury reports but that's about it.
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