Erin Andrews Sues Ohio State
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OK, asswipe, I had googled it a couple of times and all I get are either notices that it has been removed or big flashing virus warnings if I continue. So don't try to be a know it all when you don't know shit from Chicago.
Learn to internet. Do it for the Gipper. You obviously don't know what you're doing. Go to the btjunkie site I mentioned and torrent the thing, you'll have it in minutes. Type Erin Andrews in the search. It's not hard. It may seem complicated and newfangled and magical to you if you're over 50 though.
BTW I might not "know shit from Chicago" (and honestly, who does?), but I do know it's Brown.
Raven said:
Learn to internet. Do it for the Gipper. You obviously don't know what you're doing. Go to the btjunkie site I mentioned and torrent the thing, you'll have it in minutes. Type Erin Andrews in the search. It's not hard. It may seem complicated and newfangled and magical to you if you're over 50 though.BTW I might not "know shit from Chicago" (and honestly, who does?), but I do know it's Brown.
OK, not all of us are computer nerds. Some of us have lives and other interests.
And Chicago is not Brown.
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nmills said:
lmth.173831-oediv-eloh-peep-swerdna-nire/soediv/moc.zzijuoy.www//:ptthSo no response regarding my telling you that you are full of crappola on your take on this video? That she was not posing or trying to be sexy at all?
So no response regarding my telling you that you are full of crappola on your take on this video? That she was not posing or trying to be sexy at all?
Thats your opinion, I told you mine. When she looks directly into the camera then shake's here booty for it is were I get the impression she know's she's being recorded......along with her body posture. Not much more to say
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So no response regarding my telling you that you are full of crappola on your take on this video? That she was not posing or trying to be sexy at all?
Thats your opinion, I told you mine. When she looks directly into the camera then shake's here booty for it is were I get the impression she know's she's being recorded......along with her body posture. Not much more to say
nmills said:
Thats your opinion, I told you mine. When she looks directly into the camera then shake's here booty for it is were I get the impression she know's she's being recorded......along with her body posture. Not much more to sayBut she never really did look at the camera.
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Homotron said:
Have fun with the topic? The topic was posted because she's suing Ohio State otherwise it wouldn't have made it to this message board. The only mention of "having fun with the topic" is in your post above and you're certainly the only one implying you're trying to "make a joke" out of the situation. As far as her celebrity is concerned she's a sports reporter for the most prominent sports media outlet in the world. I don't think she's hurting for money or celebrity. As far as the sue happy masses are concerned her situation is completely separate and if you can't see that yourself you have a very skewed sense of privacy/reality and human compassion. I also didn't realize every female on the face of the earth had to take James Bond esque precautions to maintain their privacy. Bottom line the Hotel fvcked up by giving her room number to some random guy. The hotel is a part of Ohio State and because of that Ohio State is liable. I also don't care about the experience or lack thereof because as a employee of company X you represent that company in question. If Ohio State wants to go after said employee after the fact fine but the employees negligence isn't the fault of Erin Andrews. Take a walk through reality once or twice. It's nice.wow. how art thou brother? i explained above how she was violated and she deserves to sue. you throw out BS about how it's not right for someone like me to poke/joke fun at a serious situation. really? isn't that what our late night tv hosts do every night?
but for what i've seen of your posts in the short time that i've been here you sure think it's funny to rank on every cleveland browns football situation you can. things that we might hold close and dear to our hearts...............no problem for you.
OF F.UCKING COURSE it's different. but for what you think is funny and snide, i might think different. WALK IN REALITY? are you serious? when' the last time you left your trailer park in PA? i've been around the world and back. i live 10 mins above nyc. you wanna see reality? how about every night some woman gettin robbed stabbed and raped like it's a normal day at the park? douchebag. don't ever come across at me like that. walk a mile in these shoes and you might get stomped. yeah the hotel and it's personnel made a mistake..........and.............like you never F'd up. double triple false dichotomy.........??? sorry i didn't know i had to be a friggin' masters of psychology to post my opinion on my favorite teams forum.
i threw at you the "OMG she might have to have therapy the rest of her life" and all i was doing is showing....maybe not. i explained my stand for justice with the criminals involved. BUT if you don't feel for the pizza guy that's going to get called for judication then you are the asshole. quit watching the video and get out of your basement!
wow. how art thou brother? i explained above how she was violated and she deserves to sue. you throw out BS about how it's not right for someone like me to poke/joke fun at a serious situation. really? isn't that what our late night tv hosts do every night?
but for what i've seen of your posts in the short time that i've been here you sure think it's funny to rank on every cleveland browns football situation you can. things that we might hold close and dear to our hearts...............no problem for you.
OF F.UCKING COURSE it's different. but for what you think is funny and snide, i might think different. WALK IN REALITY? are you serious? when' the last time you left your trailer park in PA? i've been around the world and back. i live 10 mins above nyc. you wanna see reality? how about every night some woman gettin robbed stabbed and raped like it's a normal day at the park? douchebag. don't ever come across at me like that. walk a mile in these shoes and you might get stomped. yeah the hotel and it's personnel made a mistake..........and.............like you never F'd up. double triple false dichotomy.........??? sorry i didn't know i had to be a friggin' masters of psychology to post my opinion on my favorite teams forum.
i threw at you the "OMG she might have to have therapy the rest of her life" and all i was doing is showing....maybe not. i explained my stand for justice with the criminals involved. BUT if you don't feel for the pizza guy that's going to get called for judication then you are the asshole. quit watching the video and get out of your basement!
I'll be honest I only read the first 3 or 4 sentences of your previous post lol.
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nmills said:
Thats your opinion, I told you mine. When she looks directly into the camera then shake's here booty for it is were I get the impression she know's she's being recorded......along with her body posture. Not much more to sayBut she never really did look at the camera.
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wow. how art thou brother? i explained above how she was violated and she deserves to sue. you throw out BS about how it's not right for someone like me to poke/joke fun at a serious situation. really? isn't that what our late night tv hosts do every night?
but for what i've seen of your posts in the short time that i've been here you sure think it's funny to rank on every cleveland browns football situation you can. things that we might hold close and dear to our hearts...............no problem for you.
OF F.UCKING COURSE it's different. but for what you think is funny and snide, i might think different. WALK IN REALITY? are you serious? when' the last time you left your trailer park in PA? i've been around the world and back. i live 10 mins above nyc. you wanna see reality? how about every night some woman gettin robbed stabbed and raped like it's a normal day at the park? douchebag. don't ever come across at me like that. walk a mile in these shoes and you might get stomped. yeah the hotel and it's personnel made a mistake..........and.............like you never F'd up. double triple false dichotomy.........??? sorry i didn't know i had to be a friggin' masters of psychology to post my opinion on my favorite teams forum.
i threw at you the "OMG she might have to have therapy the rest of her life" and all i was doing is showing....maybe not. i explained my stand for justice with the criminals involved. BUT if you don't feel for the pizza guy that's going to get called for judication then you are the asshole. quit watching the video and get out of your basement!
I'll be honest I only read the first 3 or 4 sentences of your previous post lol.
Homotron said:
I'll be honest I only read the first 3 or 4 sentences of your previous post lol.i really don't give a f.uck. take the ball and go home mikey. punk. whaaaa! whaaaa! is this what you do in 'real life' when peope don't agree with you? what a bitch.
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nmills said:
I thought she did a couple times like 3/4 the way through the film, maybe Im being over critical, I dont know.Well it wasn’t the highest quality video. So it was hard to tell exactly what her facial expressions were, or where here eyes were specifically looking.
There were a couple times, based on the way she was bending her back and knees (that caused her butt to stick out in profile) that made me think she was bending down to look in the mirror as it was too low for her height, or she had to go pee really badly.
Otherwise, if she wanted to be seen as sexy, she could have put on a much, much better show.
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Homotron said:
I'll be honest I only read the first 3 or 4 sentences of your previous post lol.i really don't give a f.uck. take the ball and go home mikey. punk. whaaaa! whaaaa! is this what you do in 'real life' when peope don't agree with you? what a bitch.
i really don't give a f.uck. take the ball and go home mikey. punk. whaaaa! whaaaa! is this what you do in 'real life' when peope don't agree with you? what a bitch.
Find a thread where I've done anything close to "whaaa! whaa! when someone disagrees. It's usually the opposite. I continue arguing and *insert Browns fan* backs down. I said what I said about not reading your post because I posted my last defense of Andrews based on the first couple sentences of your previous. If I had read further I would have seen that you said the guy deserves to be sued. All I know is you've completely changed your tune at least twice in this thread so which is it? Either way if I had read your last post a little further I may not have made the last post you quoted. Consider that a "backhanded" apology I guess.
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i really don't give a f.uck. take the ball and go home mikey. punk. whaaaa! whaaaa! is this what you do in 'real life' when peope don't agree with you? what a bitch.
Find a thread where I've done anything close to "whaaa! whaa! when someone disagrees. It's usually the opposite. I continue arguing and *insert Browns fan* backs down. I said what I said about not reading your post because I posted my last defense of Andrews based on the first couple sentences of your previous. If I had read further I would have seen that you said the guy deserves to be sued. All I know is you've completely changed your tune at least twice in this thread so which is it? Either way if I had read your last post a little further I may not have made the last post you quoted. Consider that a "backhanded" apology I guess.
Homotron said:
Find a thread where I've done anything close to "whaaa! whaa! when someone disagrees. It's usually the opposite. I continue arguing and *insert Browns fan* backs down. I said what I said about not reading your post because I posted my last defense of Andrews based on the first couple sentences of your previous. If I had read further I would have seen that you said the guy deserves to be sued. All I know is you've completely changed your tune at least twice in this thread so which is it? Either way if I had read your last post a little further I may not have made the last post you quoted. Consider that a "backhanded" apology I guess.hey man the last thing i want to do is be the 'ahole' on this forum. alot of times i come out sideways considering the time i post and the condition i'm in when posting (same as drunk dialing in a way ....i guess). many times i do have to back track out of my own way after reading some of what i've posted. yes i do dislike the way we all pawn to the celebrities and athletes and treat them better and pay them more than the people who are most important in our world. erin andrews (after all the viseral shit i've said) has the right to sue. do i think it's right? no. i've been on the other end of BS litigation. it can take years off your life. sue ohio state, i don't care. sue the hotel, i don't care. jail the criminals. leave the incompetent college kids alone.
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Homotron said:
Find a thread where I've done anything close to "whaaa! whaa! when someone disagrees. It's usually the opposite. I continue arguing and *insert Browns fan* backs down. I said what I said about not reading your post because I posted my last defense of Andrews based on the first couple sentences of your previous. If I had read further I would have seen that you said the guy deserves to be sued. All I know is you've completely changed your tune at least twice in this thread so which is it? Either way if I had read your last post a little further I may not have made the last post you quoted. Consider that a "backhanded" apology I guess.hey man the last thing i want to do is be the 'ahole' on this forum. alot of times i come out sideways considering the time i post and the condition i'm in when posting (same as drunk dialing in a way ....i guess). many times i do have to back track out of my own way after reading some of what i've posted. yes i do dislike the way we all pawn to the celebrities and athletes and treat them better and pay them more than the people who are most important in our world. erin andrews (after all the viseral shit i've said) has the right to sue. do i think it's right? no. i've been on the other end of BS litigation. it can take years off your life. sue ohio state, i don't care. sue the hotel, i don't care. jail the criminals. leave the incompetent college kids alone.
hey man the last thing i want to do is be the 'ahole' on this forum. alot of times i come out sideways considering the time i post and the condition i'm in when posting (same as drunk dialing in a way ....i guess). many times i do have to back track out of my own way after reading some of what i've posted. yes i do dislike the way we all pawn to the celebrities and athletes and treat them better and pay them more than the people who are most important in our world. erin andrews (after all the viseral shit i've said) has the right to sue. do i think it's right? no. i've been on the other end of BS litigation. it can take years off your life. sue ohio state, i don't care. sue the hotel, i don't care. jail the criminals. leave the incompetent college kids alone.
Is she sueing the college kid? And how do we know the college kid is incompetent if she is in fact suing him? How do we know he didn't pocket some coin to give up the room number? The guy that video taped her was actually stalking her so he certainly planned to follow her to that hotel and had access to the room before she was there to reverse the peep hole. I haven't done a lot of research on the matter and only know what I've read on ESPN etc. However for all any of us know the front desk worker is a real skeez ball and if he is in fact being sued maybe it's deserved. Better yet as a front desk worker at a hotel the privacy of your occupants is of the utmost importance. It's what you're paid to do and to simply allow access to any random joe violates everyone staying at the hotel. The front desk has access to all the rooms and the employees that work the front desk are trained on confidentiality. No excuse if you ask me incompetent or not.
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hey man the last thing i want to do is be the 'ahole' on this forum. alot of times i come out sideways considering the time i post and the condition i'm in when posting (same as drunk dialing in a way ....i guess). many times i do have to back track out of my own way after reading some of what i've posted. yes i do dislike the way we all pawn to the celebrities and athletes and treat them better and pay them more than the people who are most important in our world. erin andrews (after all the viseral shit i've said) has the right to sue. do i think it's right? no. i've been on the other end of BS litigation. it can take years off your life. sue ohio state, i don't care. sue the hotel, i don't care. jail the criminals. leave the incompetent college kids alone.
Is she sueing the college kid? And how do we know the college kid is incompetent if she is in fact suing him? How do we know he didn't pocket some coin to give up the room number? The guy that video taped her was actually stalking her so he certainly planned to follow her to that hotel and had access to the room before she was there to reverse the peep hole. I haven't done a lot of research on the matter and only know what I've read on ESPN etc. However for all any of us know the front desk worker is a real skeez ball and if he is in fact being sued maybe it's deserved. Better yet as a front desk worker at a hotel the privacy of your occupants is of the utmost importance. It's what you're paid to do and to simply allow access to any random joe violates everyone staying at the hotel. The front desk has access to all the rooms and the employees that work the front desk are trained on confidentiality. No excuse if you ask me incompetent or not.
Homotron said:
The front desk has access to all the rooms and the employees that work the front desk are trained on confidentiality. No excuse if you ask me incompetent or not.i agree with your points because i haven't done the research either. if it was a skeezer that knew better and gave up her info then sue him and throw him in jail. but what about the other point i was try to make? do you agree times have changed?
i don't know how old you are but i remember when you could leave your doors unlocked. gas was 50 cents a gallon and if you got pulled over with a beer in your lap the cop would give a kick in the ass and send you on your way. i also so remember working for hotels, gas stations, restaurants and being thrown into a spot at times where someone had to leave, or the manager went off to get laid etc. and you as a punk kid knew nothing about management situations. that gives noone a pass in this situation of course but let's say this ain't no ritz carlton hotel we are talking about.
nowadays you can't leave your kids alone in the park let alone have them walk two doors down to their friends house without being afraid of something bad happening to them. if we all know this (the f.ucked up times we all live in) why don't the OMG celebrities know this? NOW everyone that has access to newspapers, the internet or tv knows of every twitch these celebrities make and these celebrities walk around like.........uh....duh. cmon. I KNOW IT'S NOT HER FAULT SHE DID NOTHING WRONG IN THIS WHOLE THING.........BUT WAKE THE F.UCK UP!!!!!
ps: i betcha she brings a roll of tape with her now. yeah to cover up those damn peep holes.
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Homotron said:
The front desk has access to all the rooms and the employees that work the front desk are trained on confidentiality. No excuse if you ask me incompetent or not.i agree with your points because i haven't done the research either. if it was a skeezer that knew better and gave up her info then sue him and throw him in jail. but what about the other point i was try to make? do you agree times have changed?
i don't know how old you are but i remember when you could leave your doors unlocked. gas was 50 cents a gallon and if you got pulled over with a beer in your lap the cop would give a kick in the ass and send you on your way. i also so remember working for hotels, gas stations, restaurants and being thrown into a spot at times where someone had to leave, or the manager went off to get laid etc. and you as a punk kid knew nothing about management situations. that gives noone a pass in this situation of course but let's say this ain't no ritz carlton hotel we are talking about.
nowadays you can't leave your kids alone in the park let alone have them walk two doors down to their friends house without being afraid of something bad happening to them. if we all know this (the f.ucked up times we all live in) why don't the OMG celebrities know this? NOW everyone that has access to newspapers, the internet or tv knows of every twitch these celebrities make and these celebrities walk around like.........uh....duh. cmon. I KNOW IT'S NOT HER FAULT SHE DID NOTHING WRONG IN THIS WHOLE THING.........BUT WAKE THE F.UCK UP!!!!!
ps: i betcha she brings a roll of tape with her now. yeah to cover up those damn peep holes.
i agree with your points because i haven't done the research either. if it was a skeezer that knew better and gave up her info then sue him and throw him in jail. but what about the other point i was try to make? do you agree times have changed?
i don't know how old you are but i remember when you could leave your doors unlocked. gas was 50 cents a gallon and if you got pulled over with a beer in your lap the cop would give a kick in the ass and send you on your way. i also so remember working for hotels, gas stations, restaurants and being thrown into a spot at times where someone had to leave, or the manager went off to get laid etc. and you as a punk kid knew nothing about management situations. that gives noone a pass in this situation of course but let's say this ain't no ritz carlton hotel we are talking about.
nowadays you can't leave your kids alone in the park let alone have them walk two doors down to their friends house without being afraid of something bad happening to them. if we all know this (the f.ucked up times we all live in) why don't the OMG celebrities know this? NOW everyone that has access to newspapers, the internet or tv knows of every twitch these celebrities make and these celebrities walk around like.........uh....duh. cmon. I KNOW IT'S NOT HER FAULT SHE DID NOTHING WRONG IN THIS WHOLE THING.........BUT WAKE THE F.UCK UP!!!!!ps: i betcha she brings a roll of tape with her now. yeah to cover up those damn peep holes.
I really haven't been paying attention to this story, but having a 7 year old boy I can totally relate to what you're talking about in thos paragraph. When I was his age, I could go outside without supervision and I played with the neighborhood kids. Nowadays, you have to worry about all the sick f***s out there! As for the celebrities, I would probably sum it up to too much partyin' and the fact that they're not living in real life, but rather a fantasy land,where they probably don't care, or are too dumb to care.
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Homotron said:
The front desk has access to all the rooms and the employees that work the front desk are trained on confidentiality. No excuse if you ask me incompetent or not.i agree with your points because i haven't done the research either. if it was a skeezer that knew better and gave up her info then sue him and throw him in jail. but what about the other point i was try to make? do you agree times have changed?
i don't know how old you are but i remember when you could leave your doors unlocked. gas was 50 cents a gallon and if you got pulled over with a beer in your lap the cop would give a kick in the ass and send you on your way. i also so remember working for hotels, gas stations, restaurants and being thrown into a spot at times where someone had to leave, or the manager went off to get laid etc. and you as a punk kid knew nothing about management situations. that gives noone a pass in this situation of course but let's say this ain't no ritz carlton hotel we are talking about.
nowadays you can't leave your kids alone in the park let alone have them walk two doors down to their friends house without being afraid of something bad happening to them. if we all know this (the f.ucked up times we all live in) why don't the OMG celebrities know this? NOW everyone that has access to newspapers, the internet or tv knows of every twitch these celebrities make and these celebrities walk around like.........uh....duh. cmon. I KNOW IT'S NOT HER FAULT SHE DID NOTHING WRONG IN THIS WHOLE THING.........BUT WAKE THE F.UCK UP!!!!!
ps: i betcha she brings a roll of tape with her now. yeah to cover up those damn peep holes.
i agree with your points because i haven't done the research either. if it was a skeezer that knew better and gave up her info then sue him and throw him in jail. but what about the other point i was try to make? do you agree times have changed?
i don't know how old you are but i remember when you could leave your doors unlocked. gas was 50 cents a gallon and if you got pulled over with a beer in your lap the cop would give a kick in the ass and send you on your way. i also so remember working for hotels, gas stations, restaurants and being thrown into a spot at times where someone had to leave, or the manager went off to get laid etc. and you as a punk kid knew nothing about management situations. that gives noone a pass in this situation of course but let's say this ain't no ritz carlton hotel we are talking about.
nowadays you can't leave your kids alone in the park let alone have them walk two doors down to their friends house without being afraid of something bad happening to them. if we all know this (the f.ucked up times we all live in) why don't the OMG celebrities know this? NOW everyone that has access to newspapers, the internet or tv knows of every twitch these celebrities make and these celebrities walk around like.........uh....duh. cmon. I KNOW IT'S NOT HER FAULT SHE DID NOTHING WRONG IN THIS WHOLE THING.........BUT WAKE THE F.UCK UP!!!!!
ps: i betcha she brings a roll of tape with her now. yeah to cover up those damn peep holes.
I'm 28 and in my neighborhood we still leave a door or two unlocked. Although we do have quite a few dogs. My parents have two Pit Bulls and a Boston terrier at their place and I have a Doberman and a Chocolate lab. If someone breaks in they'll certainly be sorry. Obviously beside the point. Either way times have changed but I don't believe things are drastically different from a social environment stand point. I just think parents and people in general base their life on fear and the possibility of that fear taking over. It's no way to live and certainly not something I consider a mantra of mine. When my gf and I get married and have kids I'm not going to be a parent following my kid around with purel and band aids. There is a certain mentality that now exists but in my world it's a completely ridiculous one so it's all up to your own interpretation.
I don't buy in to the fear mongering and while I'm cautious and use general common sense I don't walk through life fearful of a mugging or a robbery. Common sense and general street smarts or smarts in general usually tempers the possibility of sh.it going down. Although I wasn't raised in a sheltered environment and my parents were/are very open with me. I was also exposed to a lot growing up. My parents wanted me to experience a lot and break down barriers. I'm a WHITE BOY. Italian with dark hair but my dad's side is Irish so I have the italian hair and the Irish skin. I used to be REALLY in to basketball playing AAU, travel teams etc and my dad always carted me in to the city to play in inner city hoop leagues. I may have been one of 4 white kids in the entire league and I made life long friends in the process.
It also knocked down a big social barrier that most parents willingly put up for their kids and because of my experience I plan to do the same with my own children. Soooo yes times have changed but times have only changed in the minds of the sheltered. Sure things are different but they aren't THAT much different. As far as Andrews is concerned she should be able to walk around nude and get ready for the day. She's behind a closed door with the curtains drawn. It's not her fault some skeez ball violated her so I don't see where she needs to wake up. One of my ex gf's did the same. Always got ready completely nude. My current and future fiance is the polar opposite. She's a ex college ballet dancer that switched majors mid way through. She regrets it now but despite her great body she's not comfortable walking around nude. Everyone is different but it's the hotels responsibility to protect it's occupants. You put that trust in the hotel when you pay to stay the night.
EDIT: FYI the sick fvcks were around plenty when you or I grew up. It just wasn't as widely publicized nor did the internet play a role. We didn't have a sex offenders registry etc. Once again common sense and good parenting go a long way. People don't parent like they used to and that's the first problem. Kids are lazy, kids stay inside and parents are less involved. Things aren't all that different otherwise.
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i agree with your points because i haven't done the research either. if it was a skeezer that knew better and gave up her info then sue him and throw him in jail. but what about the other point i was try to make? do you agree times have changed?
i don't know how old you are but i remember when you could leave your doors unlocked. gas was 50 cents a gallon and if you got pulled over with a beer in your lap the cop would give a kick in the ass and send you on your way. i also so remember working for hotels, gas stations, restaurants and being thrown into a spot at times where someone had to leave, or the manager went off to get laid etc. and you as a punk kid knew nothing about management situations. that gives noone a pass in this situation of course but let's say this ain't no ritz carlton hotel we are talking about.
nowadays you can't leave your kids alone in the park let alone have them walk two doors down to their friends house without being afraid of something bad happening to them. if we all know this (the f.ucked up times we all live in) why don't the OMG celebrities know this? NOW everyone that has access to newspapers, the internet or tv knows of every twitch these celebrities make and these celebrities walk around like.........uh....duh. cmon. I KNOW IT'S NOT HER FAULT SHE DID NOTHING WRONG IN THIS WHOLE THING.........BUT WAKE THE F.UCK UP!!!!!
ps: i betcha she brings a roll of tape with her now. yeah to cover up those damn peep holes.
I'm 28 and in my neighborhood we still leave a door or two unlocked. Although we do have quite a few dogs. My parents have two Pit Bulls and a Boston terrier at their place and I have a Doberman and a Chocolate lab. If someone breaks in they'll certainly be sorry. Obviously beside the point. Either way times have changed but I don't believe things are drastically different from a social environment stand point. I just think parents and people in general base their life on fear and the possibility of that fear taking over. It's no way to live and certainly not something I consider a mantra of mine. When my gf and I get married and have kids I'm not going to be a parent following my kid around with purel and band aids. There is a certain mentality that now exists but in my world it's a completely ridiculous one so it's all up to your own interpretation.
I don't buy in to the fear mongering and while I'm cautious and use general common sense I don't walk through life fearful of a mugging or a robbery. Common sense and general street smarts or smarts in general usually tempers the possibility of sh.it going down. Although I wasn't raised in a sheltered environment and my parents were/are very open with me. I was also exposed to a lot growing up. My parents wanted me to experience a lot and break down barriers. I'm a WHITE BOY. Italian with dark hair but my dad's side is Irish so I have the italian hair and the Irish skin. I used to be REALLY in to basketball playing AAU, travel teams etc and my dad always carted me in to the city to play in inner city hoop leagues. I may have been one of 4 white kids in the entire league and I made life long friends in the process.
It also knocked down a big social barrier that most parents willingly put up for their kids and because of my experience I plan to do the same with my own children. Soooo yes times have changed but times have only changed in the minds of the sheltered. Sure things are different but they aren't THAT much different. As far as Andrews is concerned she should be able to walk around nude and get ready for the day. She's behind a closed door with the curtains drawn. It's not her fault some skeez ball violated her so I don't see where she needs to wake up. One of my ex gf's did the same. Always got ready completely nude. My current and future fiance is the polar opposite. She's a ex college ballet dancer that switched majors mid way through. She regrets it now but despite her great body she's not comfortable walking around nude. Everyone is different but it's the hotels responsibility to protect it's occupants. You put that trust in the hotel when you pay to stay the night.
EDIT: FYI the sick fvcks were around plenty when you or I grew up. It just wasn't as widely publicized nor did the internet play a role. We didn't have a sex offenders registry etc. Once again common sense and good parenting go a long way. People don't parent like they used to and that's the first problem. Kids are lazy, kids stay inside and parents are less involved. Things aren't all that different otherwise.
Homotron said:
I'm 28 and in my neighborhood we still leave a door or two unlocked. Although we do have quite a few dogs. My parents have two Pit Bulls and a Boston terrier at their place and I have a Doberman and a Chocolate lab. If someone breaks in they'll certainly be sorry. Obviously beside the point. Either way times have changed but I don't believe things are drastically different from a social environment stand point. I just think parents and people in general base their life on fear and the possibility of that fear taking over. It's no way to live and certainly not something I consider a mantra of mine. When my gf and I get married and have kids I'm not going to be a parent following my kid around with purel and band aids. There is a certain mentality that now exists but in my world it's a completely ridiculous one so it's all up to your own interpretation.I don't buy in to the fear mongering and while I'm cautious and use general common sense I don't walk through life fearful of a mugging or a robbery. Common sense and general street smarts or smarts in general usually tempers the possibility of sh.it going down. Although I wasn't raised in a sheltered environment and my parents were/are very open with me. I was also exposed to a lot growing up. My parents wanted me to experience a lot and break down barriers. I'm a WHITE BOY. Italian with dark hair but my dad's side is Irish so I have the italian hair and the Irish skin. I used to be REALLY in to basketball playing AAU, travel teams etc and my dad always carted me in to the city to play in inner city hoop leagues. I may have been one of 4 white kids in the entire league and I made life long friends in the process.
It also knocked down a big social barrier that most parents willingly put up for their kids and because of my experience I plan to do the same with my own children. Soooo yes times have changed but times have only changed in the minds of the sheltered. Sure things are different but they aren't THAT much different. As far as Andrews is concerned she should be able to walk around nude and get ready for the day. She's behind a closed door with the curtains drawn. It's not her fault some skeez ball violated her so I don't see where she needs to wake up. One of my ex gf's did the same. Always got ready completely nude. My current and future fiance is the polar opposite. She's a ex college ballet dancer that switched majors mid way through. She regrets it now but despite her great body she's not comfortable walking around nude. Everyone is different but it's the hotels responsibility to protect it's occupants. You put that trust in the hotel when you pay to stay the night.
EDIT: FYI the sick fvcks were around plenty when you or I grew up. It just wasn't as widely publicized nor did the internet play a role. We didn't have a sex offenders registry etc. Once again common sense and good parenting go a long way. People don't parent like they used to and that's the first problem. Kids are lazy, kids stay inside and parents are less involved. Things aren't all that different.
from what i've read it seems i have alot in common. although living above nyc in a small river town village the hoity-toityness of the upper east side has been swept up the hudson river to where we reside. the god-awful hand sanitizer moms are running amuck. albeit it's soooo much different from where i grew up in sandusky. we're about a mile away from yonkers which depending on which way turn you could be looking at a gorgeous victorian mansion or on the other side crack dealers. this place is overpopulated with scumbags and the rich who buy houses for millions of dollars and take the train down the street to the city everyday. so there is no leavinfg your doors unlocked and not knowing where your kids are at all times. thank god i don't have to worry about that. we live in a locked door security apartment building. natural for ny. never saw one before moving here in the 90's.
i tend to gravitate to those who have the midwestern type of laid back coolness that i really miss. i'm not that much of a people person but those in my family and friends can not be messed with cause damage will ensue. believe me i don't live in fear but i am one eyeballin' motherf.ucker. i tend to be behind everyone else in the bar (for example....heh heh) with the foray in front of me. i take note of whose loud etc. and who and what COULD happen. just instincts from the army days.
i'm probably your dad's age being 48 so ALOT has changed. my parents and grandparents were of the old school 'woman stay in the house' mentality so alot of my angst and spin on this subject comes from that. it's taken years to try to rid myself of alot of that shit but when confronted on it still it seeps out.
btw: italian and irish? yikes. best friends with an irish guy. he thinks he's italian. heh. here's my little guy:

gotta get him a browns sweater.
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Homotron said:
I'm 28 and in my neighborhood we still leave a door or two unlocked. Although we do have quite a few dogs. My parents have two Pit Bulls and a Boston terrier at their place and I have a Doberman and a Chocolate lab. If someone breaks in they'll certainly be sorry. Obviously beside the point. Either way times have changed but I don't believe things are drastically different from a social environment stand point. I just think parents and people in general base their life on fear and the possibility of that fear taking over. It's no way to live and certainly not something I consider a mantra of mine. When my gf and I get married and have kids I'm not going to be a parent following my kid around with purel and band aids. There is a certain mentality that now exists but in my world it's a completely ridiculous one so it's all up to your own interpretation.I don't buy in to the fear mongering and while I'm cautious and use general common sense I don't walk through life fearful of a mugging or a robbery. Common sense and general street smarts or smarts in general usually tempers the possibility of sh.it going down. Although I wasn't raised in a sheltered environment and my parents were/are very open with me. I was also exposed to a lot growing up. My parents wanted me to experience a lot and break down barriers. I'm a WHITE BOY. Italian with dark hair but my dad's side is Irish so I have the italian hair and the Irish skin. I used to be REALLY in to basketball playing AAU, travel teams etc and my dad always carted me in to the city to play in inner city hoop leagues. I may have been one of 4 white kids in the entire league and I made life long friends in the process.
It also knocked down a big social barrier that most parents willingly put up for their kids and because of my experience I plan to do the same with my own children. Soooo yes times have changed but times have only changed in the minds of the sheltered. Sure things are different but they aren't THAT much different. As far as Andrews is concerned she should be able to walk around nude and get ready for the day. She's behind a closed door with the curtains drawn. It's not her fault some skeez ball violated her so I don't see where she needs to wake up. One of my ex gf's did the same. Always got ready completely nude. My current and future fiance is the polar opposite. She's a ex college ballet dancer that switched majors mid way through. She regrets it now but despite her great body she's not comfortable walking around nude. Everyone is different but it's the hotels responsibility to protect it's occupants. You put that trust in the hotel when you pay to stay the night.
EDIT: FYI the sick fvcks were around plenty when you or I grew up. It just wasn't as widely publicized nor did the internet play a role. We didn't have a sex offenders registry etc. Once again common sense and good parenting go a long way. People don't parent like they used to and that's the first problem. Kids are lazy, kids stay inside and parents are less involved. Things aren't all that different.
from what i've read it seems i have alot in common. although living above nyc in a small river town village the hoity-toityness of the upper east side has been swept up the hudson river to where we reside. the god-awful hand sanitizer moms are running amuck. albeit it's soooo much different from where i grew up in sandusky. we're about a mile away from yonkers which depending on which way turn you could be looking at a gorgeous victorian mansion or on the other side crack dealers. this place is overpopulated with scumbags and the rich who buy houses for millions of dollars and take the train down the street to the city everyday. so there is no leavinfg your doors unlocked and not knowing where your kids are at all times. thank god i don't have to worry about that. we live in a locked door security apartment building. natural for ny. never saw one before moving here in the 90's.
i tend to gravitate to those who have the midwestern type of laid back coolness that i really miss. i'm not that much of a people person but those in my family and friends can not be messed with cause damage will ensue. believe me i don't live in fear but i am one eyeballin' motherf.ucker. i tend to be behind everyone else in the bar (for example....heh heh) with the foray in front of me. i take note of whose loud etc. and who and what COULD happen. just instincts from the army days.
i'm probably your dad's age being 48 so ALOT has changed. my parents and grandparents were of the old school 'woman stay in the house' mentality so alot of my angst and spin on this subject comes from that. it's taken years to try to rid myself of alot of that shit but when confronted on it still it seeps out.
btw: italian and irish? yikes. best friends with an irish guy. he thinks he's italian. heh. here's my little guy:

gotta get him a browns sweater.
from what i've read it seems i have alot in common. although living above nyc in a small river town village the hoity-toityness of the upper east side has been swept up the hudson river to where we reside. the god-awful hand sanitizer moms are running amuck. albeit it's soooo much different from where i grew up in sandusky. we're about a mile away from yonkers which depending on which way turn you could be looking at a gorgeous victorian mansion or on the other side crack dealers. this place is overpopulated with scumbags and the rich who buy houses for millions of dollars and take the train down the street to the city everyday. so there is no leavinfg your doors unlocked and not knowing where your kids are at all times. thank god i don't have to worry about that. we live in a locked door security apartment building. natural for ny. never saw one before moving here in the 90's.
i tend to gravitate to those who have the midwestern type of laid back coolness that i really miss. i'm not that much of a people person but those in my family and friends can not be messed with cause damage will ensue. believe me i don't live in fear but i am one eyeballin' motherf.ucker. i tend to be behind everyone else in the bar (for example....heh heh) with the foray in front of me. i take note of whose loud etc. and who and what COULD happen. just instincts from the army days.
i'm probably your dad's age being 48 so ALOT has changed. my parents and grandparents were of the old school 'woman stay in the house' mentality so alot of my angst and spin on this subject comes from that. it's taken years to try to rid myself of alot of that shit but when confronted on it still it seeps out.
btw: italian and irish? yikes. best friends with an irish guy. he thinks he's italian. heh. here's my little guy:

gotta get him a browns sweater.
My dad was 31 when he had me so he's pushing 60 and yea a lot probably has changed for you but my points in my previous post still stand.
Camera phone pic from almost 2 years ago now in my college apartment. Goose just turned 2 in June. Crap pic quality but it's all i have currently that easily accessible.

Couple of young Browns fans.

Conan my parents youngest pit when he was 6 months. He has a make shift leash from the humane society. My mom forgot to bring one when they went to get him.

Had to throw the Browns fans in there.....it was in my photobucket. Can you believe those two? lol. Times have changed for that family.
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from what i've read it seems i have alot in common. although living above nyc in a small river town village the hoity-toityness of the upper east side has been swept up the hudson river to where we reside. the god-awful hand sanitizer moms are running amuck. albeit it's soooo much different from where i grew up in sandusky. we're about a mile away from yonkers which depending on which way turn you could be looking at a gorgeous victorian mansion or on the other side crack dealers. this place is overpopulated with scumbags and the rich who buy houses for millions of dollars and take the train down the street to the city everyday. so there is no leavinfg your doors unlocked and not knowing where your kids are at all times. thank god i don't have to worry about that. we live in a locked door security apartment building. natural for ny. never saw one before moving here in the 90's.
i tend to gravitate to those who have the midwestern type of laid back coolness that i really miss. i'm not that much of a people person but those in my family and friends can not be messed with cause damage will ensue. believe me i don't live in fear but i am one eyeballin' motherf.ucker. i tend to be behind everyone else in the bar (for example....heh heh) with the foray in front of me. i take note of whose loud etc. and who and what COULD happen. just instincts from the army days.
i'm probably your dad's age being 48 so ALOT has changed. my parents and grandparents were of the old school 'woman stay in the house' mentality so alot of my angst and spin on this subject comes from that. it's taken years to try to rid myself of alot of that shit but when confronted on it still it seeps out.
btw: italian and irish? yikes. best friends with an irish guy. he thinks he's italian. heh. here's my little guy:

gotta get him a browns sweater.
My dad was 31 when he had me so he's pushing 60 and yea a lot probably has changed for you but my points in my previous post still stand.
Camera phone pic from almost 2 years ago now in my college apartment. Goose just turned 2 in June. Crap pic quality but it's all i have currently that easily accessible.

Couple of young Browns fans.

Conan my parents youngest pit when he was 6 months. He has a make shift leash from the humane society. My mom forgot to bring one when they went to get him.

Had to throw the Browns fans in there.....it was in my photobucket. Can you believe those two? lol. Times have changed for that family.
Homotron said:
Conan my parents youngest pit when he was 6 months. He has a make shift leash from the humane society. My mom forgot to bring one when they went to get him.adopted mine too. he's 2. hey! THAT KID AIN'T OLD ENOUGH TO SMOKE!!!

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Homotron said:
Conan my parents youngest pit when he was 6 months. He has a make shift leash from the humane society. My mom forgot to bring one when they went to get him.adopted mine too. he's 2. hey! THAT KID AIN'T OLD ENOUGH TO SMOKE!!!

adopted mine too. he's 2. hey! THAT KID AIN'T OLD ENOUGH TO SMOKE!!!

I personally enjoy the half a$$ed "west side" hand symbol by the sideways hat wearing stay puff marshmellow man in the background. My family will only ever adopt. Way to many great dogs in need of homes. Goose my Doberman was from a breeder but it was a personal friend who breeds and I loved/love the Parents. Helped raise the Parents (Baby sat) and saw the puppies born so I had to have one. He was actually born in OHIO! *gasp* in Ravenna, near Kent State.
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no one cares you fukcing Squeelers troll.
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