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The Gipper

Here is something I found. Can anyone confirm what happened in this situation?:

Stanley Druckenmiller, the billionaire hedge fund manager of Duquesne Capital Management, bought a controlling stake in the Steelers in September 2009.Team value: ~$800 million.

Last season’s record: 9-7-0

Can I assume no such deal went through?

SiperBowl

Druckenmiller Withdraws Bid for Steelers

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122178428376754823.html

he wised up to all the inbreeders in pittsburgh and that big gay was stalking his daughters

Vagitron

@the-gipper said:
Here is something I found. Can anyone confirm what happened in this situation?:
Stanley Druckenmiller, the billionaire hedge fund manager of Duquesne Capital Management, bought a controlling stake in the Steelers in September 2009.Team value: ~$800 million.

Last season’s record: 9-7-0

Can I assume no such deal went through?

What does last seasons record have to do with anything and he pulled out his bid a LONG time ago. Dan Rooney pulled together cash from various areas to ensure he maintained control of the franchise. It was nationally publicized for a while. Were you guys cave dwelling during that time?

The Gipper

Homotron said:
What does last seasons record have to do with anything and he pulled out his bid a LONG time ago. Dan Rooney pulled together cash from various areas to ensure he maintained control of the franchise. It was nationally publicized for a while. Were you guys cave dwelling during that time?

Hey, believe it or not, we are Browns fans here, and we really don't pay that much attention to what goes on with the F***ing Pittsburgh Steelers. There may have been some brief mention of it somewhere in the national media, but guess what? We are not paying attention 24/7 waiting to hear news about the Steelers.

I found this blurb online, and since I had not heard much about it around this forum, I assumed it may have been as the title to the thread said "old, erroneous news".

So, this is a little lesson for you to learn: not everyone gives a shit about or pays attention to Pittsburgh BS.

Nor would I expect you to know all the esoteric data concerning the Browns, though, apparently, the Browns are far more important to you than the Steelers are to me.

Vagitron

@the-gipper said:
Hey, believe it or not, we are Browns fans here, and we really don't pay that much attention to what goes on with the F***ing Pittsburgh Steelers. There may have been some brief mention of it somewhere in the national media, but guess what? We are not paying attention 24/7 waiting to hear news about the Steelers.
I found this blurb online, and since I had not heard much about it around this forum, I assumed it may have been as the title to the thread said "old, erroneous news".

So, this is a little lesson for you to learn: not everyone gives a shit about or pays attention to Pittsburgh BS.

Nor would I expect you to know all the esoteric data concerning the Browns, though, apparently, the Browns are far more important to you than the Steelers are to me.

It was talked about on this message board in detail for days. It was also national media as I said previously and discussed enough that if you turned on ESPN you'd either see a blurb about it or they'd be talking about it. It wasn't small time news so whether you couldn't care less about the Steelers or not it was pretty damn hard to miss. I also get all my Browns news here because they aren't talked about nationally.

The Gipper

Homotron said:
It was talked about on this message board in detail for days. It was also national media as I said previously and discussed enough that if you turned on ESPN you'd either see a blurb about it or they'd be talking about it. It wasn't small time news so whether you couldn't care less about the Steelers or not it was pretty damn hard to miss. I also get all my Browns news here because they aren't talked about nationally.

Well, whatever. Dude ain't buying the team, is he, and he didn't need my permission to make a decision, did he.

DieHardBrownsFan

Homo is starved for attention. No one cares about the hillbilly shithole called Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh is a city of inbred zombies, built over toxic coal mine shafts and toxic waste from the abandoned Steel mills.

Vagitron

@diehardbrownsfan said:
Homo is starved for attention. No one cares about the hillbilly shithole called Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh is a city of inbred zombies, built over toxic coal mine shafts and toxic waste from the abandoned Steel mills.

Starved for attention? Do you see me starting threads? I don't think I've started a thread the entire time I've been here on this name or my old title. I simply respond. If you don't like it don't read it. Oh and as for your last tirade. Refer to my signature. 5, count em....5 cities. Ohio is also to blame for Pittsburgh poor air quality. Your sh.it factories smog up our city air. Ohio outside of the Columbus area could be wiped off the globe and no one would notice. Well Columbus and Cedar Point.

NewEraDawg

Vagitron

@neweradawg said:

Quote is all that matters. Time for a new picture tho, this one has been in circulation for a long time. I'll wait for the land whale screaming in the Steeler t to show up next.

The Gipper

Homotron said:
Starved for attention? Do you see me starting threads? I don't think I've started a thread the entire time I've been here on this name or my old title. I simply respond. If you don't like it don't read it. Oh and as for your last tirade. Refer to my signature. 5, count em....5 cities. Ohio is also to blame for Pittsburgh poor air quality. Your sh.it factories smog up our city air. Ohio outside of the Columbus area could be wiped off the globe and no one would notice. Well Columbus and Cedar Point.

OK, talk about lame and incredulous with this "your city sucks" BS. I've been everywhere man, and there is no difference between the entire swath of countryside starting from the Appalachian range that runs from New England and upstate NY all the way to the Great Plains. Cities such as Pittsbugh, Buffalo, Cleveland, Cinci, Columbus, Indianapolis, Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee, Louisville, St. Louis, Minneapolis, Kansas City are ALL pretty basically the same, and except for Chicago are all pretty much the same size. Dont be ignorant and think otherwise.

Vagitron

@the-gipper said:
OK, talk about lame and incredulous with this "your city sucks" BS. I've been everywhere man, and there is no difference between the entire swath of countryside starting from the Appalachian range that runs from New England and upstate NY all the way to the Great Plains. Cities such as Pittsbugh, Buffalo, Cleveland, Cinci, Columbus, Indianapolis, Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee, Louisville, St. Louis, Minneapolis, Kansas City are ALL pretty basically the same, and except for Chicago are all pretty much the same size. Dont be ignorant and think otherwise.

Once again a response to one of your Retarded brethren, otherwise I don't bring it up. Pittsburgh is also doing much better than many of the cities you listed from a economic, future technologies stand point. There is a reason the G20 was held in the area. Pittsburgh is doing a HELL of a lot better than Cleveland. Sure the cultures are similar but that's where the similarities stop. Cleveland is one the back end of a lot of things. AND once again I wouldn't have even mentioned it if one of the resident Retards didn't stroll through and pop one off. Zip it up Gip.

The Gipper

Homotron said:
Once again a response to one of your Retarded brethren, otherwise I don't bring it up. Pittsburgh is also doing much better than many of the cities you listed from a economic, future technologies stand point. There is a reason the G20 was held in the area. Pittsburgh is doing a HELL of a lot better than Cleveland. Sure the cultures are similar but that's where the similarities stop. Cleveland is one the back end of a lot of things. AND once again I wouldn't have even mentioned it if one of the resident Retards didn't stroll through and pop one off. Zip it up Gip.

Dude, anyone can point out any specific situation and say "see...we are better than you and this proves it. Pittsburgh is no better off from a technology, economic, cultural ...anything you can think of standpoint than Cleveland. You just want to prop your own ego up by thinking so. But it ain't. You could come up with one statistic showing one thing, I could come up with another statistic showing another thing in my favor. You can circle jerk yourself around and go phishing for data to support your delusion....and I guess if it makes you feel better about yourself feel free to engage in such mental masturbation. Whatever gets you off. Just know that when you come, you come alone.

Vagitron

@the-gipper said:
Dude, anyone can point out any specific situation and say "see...we are better than you and this proves it. Pittsburgh is no better off from a technology, economic, cultural ...anything you can think of standpoint than Cleveland. You just want to prop your own ego up by thinking so. But it ain't. You could come up with one statistic showing one thing, I could come up with another statistic showing another thing in my favor. You can circle jerk yourself around and go phishing for data to support your delusion....and I guess if it makes you feel better about yourself feel free to engage in such mental masturbation. Whatever gets you off. Just know that when you come, you come alone.

The housing market collapse? Didn't really happen in Pittsburgh, at least not to the degree it did over the rest of the United States. Green Technology which is where the country is going is a major portion of the Pittsburgh job market. Pittsburgh is the first in quite a bit of that technology not to mention the first green convention center in the country. Medical advancement. Yes the Cleveland Clinic is great but I'm talking about medical products and of course UPMC is one of the best in the country. I also get nothing out of talking about it on this message board BECAUSE WHEN I DO It's only in response to something someone else said. I guess you can't read and have your own clouded ego to deal with GIP. You're holier than thou attitude makes me giggle. It's the same attitude you try and push on me. I don't know anyone outside of Cleveland that says "MAN, I love Cleveland" but you do hear people from outside the Pittsburgh area talk about why they enjoy the city. Cleveland is a sh.it hole. Let me know when you're done crying about my posts.

The Gipper

Homotron said:
The housing market collapse? Didn't really happen in Pittsburgh, at least not to the degree it did over the rest of the United States. Green Technology which is where the country is going is a major portion of the Pittsburgh job market. Pittsburgh is the first in quite a bit of that technology not to mention the first green convention center in the country. Medical advancement. Yes the Cleveland Clinic is great but I'm talking about medical products and of course UPMC is one of the best in the country. I also get nothing out of talking about it on this message board BECAUSE WHEN I DO It's only in response to something someone else said. I guess you can't read and have your own clouded ego to deal with GIP. You're holier than thou attitude makes me giggle. It's the same attitude you try and push on me. I don't know anyone outside of Cleveland that says "MAN, I love Cleveland" but you do hear people from outside the Pittsburgh area talk about why they enjoy the city. Cleveland is a sh.it hole. Let me know when you're done crying about my posts.

Let's us know when you are done masturbating to your fantasies.

And quite the opposite is true. I always hear people from outside Cleveland say "Man, I love Cleveland"...you want a reference: see our man Howie Dawg. He lives in the UK. Discuss the matter with him.

And I never hear anyone outside Pittsburgh talk about it.

Perhaps you hear them because you live there and people tell you how they like Pittsburgh.

The same way I hear them say how they like Cleveland because I live here.

Why would someone tell a person from Cleveland how much they like Pittsburgh, and why would someone tell a person from Pittsburgh how much they like Cleveland. Hello! Wake up and use a little logic. Like I said, both cities are essentially the same and no seminal intoxication on your part is going to revise that fact.

djdawg2010

@the-gipper said:
Let's us know when you are done masturbating to your fantasies.
And quite the opposite is true. I always hear people from outside Cleveland say "Man, I love Cleveland"...you want a reference: see our man Howie Dawg. He lives in the UK. Discuss the matter with him.

And I never hear anyone outside Pittsburgh talk about it.

Perhaps you hear them because you live there and people tell you how they like Pittsburgh.

The same way I hear them say how they like Cleveland because I live here.

Why would someone tell a person from Cleveland how much they like Pittsburgh, and why would someone tell a person from Pittsburgh how much they like Cleveland. Hello! Wake up and use a little logic. Like I said, both cities are essentially the same and no seminal intoxication on your part is going to revise that fact.

I too always hear people say good things about Cleveland. I remember walking around NYC wearing my Browns jacket, getting props for it. In fact the only place I ever caught any crap for wearing anything Browns or saying I was from Cleveland was....... you guessed it...... in Pittsburgh!

Bottom line here, is that while neither city might not be the best place in the country. But we love our hometowns, and nothing anyone is going to say is going to change that. A Pittsburgh fan coming on here saying they hate Cleveland is not going to change my mind, or convince me otherwise about how I feel about my hometown, and vice versus. In fact, much respect to those native Pittsburghers for giving props to their home, as I do the same for mine. And furthermore, the more someone rips my city and state, the more I love where I live! Screw the haters! I am smart enough to draw my own conclusions about a place without having a magazine like Forbes to tell me "how miserable" we all are here.

The Gipper

I am going to repost here data that I put together a couple of months back. Several posts will be involved:

OK, so I have been giving some thought to this so called Forbes Magazine listing of Cleveland as the most "Miserable city" in the USA. I have to believe that they came up with a predetermined answer on this because what they say makes absolutelty no sense. They don't follow their own criteria.

Forbes Criteria for determining their most miserable city, they claim was based on the following factors:

1. Location of Superfund sites in an area...this relates to essentially ground/water pollution only. (Superfund has nothing to do with smog/air pollution)

2. Unemployment rates

3. Local tax rates

4. Commute times

5. Crime Rate

6. Weather

7 Sports team performance

Lets look at these in turn (I may make several posts of this so as not to lose continuity in its separate parts):

1 Superfund. I will give you here a map of the Superfund sites in the US:

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Look at Cleveland. Not a single red dot. Red Dots are cites that need cleaned up. Green dots are sites that have been cleaned up satisfactorily. There are a few red dots in the Akron/Youngstown area. But compare this area to much of the East Coast which is covered in red dots, or to the likes of Charlotte, St. Louis, LA, San Fran, Seattle, Houston. this area is a garden of eden compared to many of those. And while I could not find a Superfund listing by city, I did find a ranking by state, and the top 10 states are:

New Jersey

California

Pennsylvania

New York

Michigan

Florida

Washington

Illinois

Texas

Wisconsin

the there was Ohio at 11.

Oddly, the state with the least Superfund sites was Nevada with only 1 site. You want to bet they excluded nuclear waste dumping sites for their "pollution index"?

So, obviously, apparently, it is not the location of Superfund pollution sites in Cleveland that spur its #1 most miserable ranking. It must be something else.

I will continue in another post.

The Gipper

OK, the next Criteria of Forbes Most Miserable City list I will tackle is that of Local Tax Rates. Now get this: The following is FORBES MAGAZINES list of Highest local tax rates for major US cities (not in order):

Chicago

Los Angeles

New York

San Francisco

Seattle

New Orleans

Houston

Dallas

Charlotte

Las Vegas

Philadelphia

Atlanta

Cleveland is not on this list at all.

ABC News put out a report of the highest tax rates in various cities, including smaller ones. Here were their top 5:

Bridgeport, Conn.

Des Moines, Iowa

Providence, RI

Newark NJ

Manchester NH

Also, of all the state, Ohio has only the 21st highest effective Sales tax rate.

Ohio also ranks only 38th highest in State income tax rates.

So, apparently it is not Cleveland Tax rate which spurs its No. 1 most miserable city ranking. It must be something else.

The Gipper

Onward to the next criteria for Forbes Ranking: The Crime Rate

Per the FBI's list of cities with the most violent crimes per capita, the following top the list:

1. New York

2. Los Angeles

3. Chicago

4. Houston

5. Phoenix

6. Philadelphia

7. Las Vegas

8. San Antonio

9. Dallas

10. San Diego

11. San Jose

12. Honolulu

Where does Cleveland sit? 33rd

So, apparently it is not Cleveland's Crime rate that rate's it as America's #1 most miserable city. It must be something else

The Gipper

Moving on to the next criteria on Forbes list: Commute time.

Here is the list compiled by...who?....FORBES Magazine on the cities in America with the worst traffic and commute time:

1. Los Angeles

2. San Fran/Oaklan

3. Washington D.C.

4. Atlanta

5. Houston

6. Dallas/Ft. Worth

7. Chicago

8. Detroit

9. Riverside/San Bernadino

10. Orlando

11. San Jose

12. San Diego

Cleveland is not even in the Top 30 of their list.

So, apparently it is not "Commute Time" that puts Cleveland on the top of the "Most Miserable city list. It must be something else.