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How Oba-mao is more unAmerican Muslim than any of us think

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    Politics in Play at Proposed Ground Zero Mosque

    Lauren Torlone | August 07, 2010

    Just days after a New York City commission refused to grant landmark status for the building slated to house a proposed "mega mosque" near the site of the September 11th attacks, debate over the mosque's construction continues. Jay Sekulow, chief counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice, tells Fox News the ACLJ has filed a lawsuit against the commission, on the grounds that their decision ignores the feelings of many New Yorkers and those who lost loved ones in the World Trade Center attacks. Among the clients represented by Sekulow is firefighter Tim Brown, himself a responder to the World Trade Center on September 11th.

    Sekulow says "politics is leading the charge," and allowing plans for the mosque to move forward. From the perspective of the ACLJ, the commission tasked with determining whether or not the site met criteria for historic qualification did not do its job.

    Sekulow said the commission made a decision based on the fact that they "liked the idea that a mosque would go there." The ACLJ is quick to point out they aren't against the construction of new mosques in any city, including New York, and that many Muslim leaders are also against the idea of building a mosque so close to Ground Zero, where Muslim extremists killed thousands of Americans.

    New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg has publicly stated his support for the mosque proposal, a move that has led some to question whether following the letter of the law is more important to him than honoring the wishes of those who lost loved ones at Ground Zero.

    Read more: http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/08/...e#ixzz0w1IT5Ldr

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    For a long time, we have noticed that the decor at the White House has changed since BHO moved in.

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    The Oval Office is now stripped of the traditional red, white, and blue, and replaced with middle eastern wallpaper, drapes, and decor.

    The Hallway that he walks out of to talk to the press now has middle eastern chairs, drapes, etc.

    And the thing that has bothered me the most is the bright Yellow Drape behind him every time he speaks from the white house. It has Arabic Symbols on it and has been there from the beginning.

    Today I received this and it clearly shows what I have been noticing. That bright yellow curtain is highly visible, but as you scroll down, you will see what is predominantly absent.

    Also, as you look at the pictures of other presidents speaking from the same spot, look at the traditional 'American' background and decor as opposed to the new decor.

    Trust me when I say that this is intentional. It should alarm every American!

    What is missing at Barack Hussein Obama's press conference?

    BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA (aka BARRY SOETORO )

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      The Imam that wants to build the building refuses to criticize hamas.

      And, the money for the project? The sources are not forthcoming.

      Why, in the "name of a religion", would the Muslim extremists destroy

      those buildings, to have THEIR "FAITH" build THEIR HOUSE OF WORSHIP ON THE SITE?

      I say it will not be built. It will add insult and injury to the tragedy and loss of lives on 9/11.

      IOW's, it sure the hell is NOT an interfaith building. It's a mosque. No non muslims allowed.

      I really believe our country may be headed to Civil War II in the future, unless our direction

      changes.

      That, and I believe we are all in for big, big trouble in our own country.

      And Oba-Mao is our FREEDOM's enemy.

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        Sorry, JunkYardDawg ! I think I was only thinking with one arm. @@

        This is what I meant to say, I think:

        "Why, in the "name of a religion", would the Muslim extremists destroy

        those buildings, only for the American local gov/"justice dept"... allow Muslims to have THEIR "FAITH" build THEIR HOUSE OF WORSHIP ON THE SITE?"

        And yes, you are exactly right.

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          Would the media and any American except a Japaneese memorial on Pearl Harbor after WWII?

          Hell No!

          But maybe today they would since half of America is on prozac.

          Head or Gut?
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            America is surrendering in the war against radical Islam. click here

            Head or Gut?
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              well, T, this so called "president" is sick with a world class arrogance, in that

              he doesn't identify with being an American. It's the world power he craves.

              Impeach Obs-Mao NOW. Before he goes fascist dictator on us.

              http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/j...ment-142967590/

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                Absolute crapola..mosque / church of any kind atop ground zero is bullshit.

                Unified place of mourning? perhaps.

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                  Can he be labeled a traitor?

                  ObaMao does have the character of a traitor.

                  Whoever gives comfort and aid to our enemies is guilty of Treason

                  Treason may be something many Americans should be watching out for from those who are being sympathetic to our enemies.

                  TREASON: This word imports a betraying, treachery, or breach of allegiance.

                  The Constitution of the United States, Art. III, defines treason against the United States to consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid or comfort. This offence is punished with death. By the same article of the Constitution, no person shall be convicted of treason, unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

                  Source

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                    <H2 class=" EIP_title EIP_postid26889 "> this state dept... what country are they from? surely not OUR country....

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                    US State Dept Sends Mosque Imam to Mideast</H2>August 9, 2010 - 7:01 PM | by: Jake Gibson WASHINGTON– State Department officials on Monday confirmed Feisal Abdul Rauf, the Imam of the so-called Ground Zero Mosque, will soon be going on a trip of the Middle East and the U.S. government will be picking up the tab.

                    The planned construction of a mosque near Ground Zero in New York City has set off a contentious national debate over religious freedom in the U.S., drawing impassioned opposition from some families of 9/11 victims.

                    Rauf has emerged as a controversial figure because of his refusal to acknowledge Hamas as a terrorist organization, which is how the U.S. government classifies the group. The imam also has been quoted as saying U.S. foreign policy was in part responsible for the 9/11 attacks.

                    “He is a distinguished Muslim cleric,” said State Department Spokesman P.J. Crowley. “We do have a program whereby, through our Educational and Cultural Affairs Bureau here at the State Department, we send people from Muslim communities here in this country around the world to help people overseas understand our society and the role of religion within our society.”

                    Rauf and his partners are preparing to build a $100 million Islamic center and mosque near Ground Zero, where on September 11, 2001 two airliners hijacked by al-Qaeda terrorists, slammed into the twin towers of the World Trade Center, killing nearly 3,000 innocents.

                    The project, known as Park 51, cleared a final hurdle on August 3rd, when decision by New York City’s Landmarks Preservation Commission cleared the way for construction. The tower could span up to 15 stories and will house a mosque, a 500-seat auditorium and a pool.

                    The State Department has not yet divulged a detailed itinerary of Rauf’s trip, although Arab media is reporting he will visit the oil rich states of Saudi Arabia, The United Arab Emirates and Abu Dhabi.

                    “It is to foster greater understanding and outreach around the world, among… Muslim- majority communities,” said Crowley. “We've done this many, many times, with many leading figures… over the past few years.”

                    The project has also drawn outspoken criticism from Sarah Palin who famously tweeted, “Peace-seeking Muslims, pls understand, Ground Zero mosque is UNNECESSARY provocation. It stabs hearts.”

                    New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has forcefully defended the project as a symbol of America’s religious tolerance.

                    Read more: http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/08.../#ixzz0wDh0PeTk

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                      Some pictures that counter the muslim decorating claims from the first post:

                      http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/photos/ovaloffice.asp

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                        After viewing the snopes photos, I will ask.....

                        Why doesn't Obama have a flag on either side of him? all of the other presidents pictured do.

                        Is there even a US flag in the room?

                        But everyone knows that its not what we see from Obama because it is all staged for PR and the media. It is what he does

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                          How much is intentional, how much is accidental, what is contrived after the fact to stop his plummeting

                          approval ratings?

                          I suppose that snopes (headed by two liberal wonks) says this never happened, too:

                          http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/09/08/gaffe-...y-muslim-faith/

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                            Okay, you won't believe this. And not one of the liberals can defend this fiasco.

                            Obamao "...my Muslim faith"

                            We really are in for big, big trouble in the near future if Obamination is not blocked from

                            ruining our country.

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                            <H1 sizcache="18" sizset="122">Hamas nod for Ground Zero mosque</H1><H2 class=readout sizcache="18" sizset="123">Terror group's leader: 'Have to build it'</H2>By S.A. MILLER in Washington and TOM TOPOUSIS in New York

                            Last Updated: 8:15 AM, August 16, 2010

                            Posted: 1:49 AM, August 16, 2010

                            A leader of the Hamas terror group yesterday jumped into the emotional debate on the plan to construct a mosque near Ground Zero -- insisting Muslims "have to build" it there.

                            "We have to build everywhere," said Mahmoud al-Zahar, a co-founder of Hamas and the organization's chief on the Gaza Strip.

                            "In every area we have, [as] Muslim, we have to pray, and this mosque is the only site of prayer," he said on "Aaron Klein Investigative Radio" on WABC.

                            OBAMA CATCHES HOLY HELL

                            "We have to build the mosque, as you are allowed to build the church and Israelis are building their holy places."

                            Hamas, he added, "is representing the vast majority of the Arabic and Islamic world -- especially the Islamic side." Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY), who so far has not taken a position on the mosque, dismissed the endorsement.

                            "Hamas is a terrorist organization, and their views don't deserve any weight on anything," his spokesman said.

                            Zahar said Muslims around the world, including those who live in this country, are united in a common cause.

                            "First of all, we have to address that we are different as people, as a nation, totally different," he said.

                            "We already are living under the tradition of Islam.

                            "Islam is controlling every source of our life as regard to marriage, divorce, our commercial relationships," Zahar said.

                            "Even the Islamic people or the Muslims in your country, they are living now in the tradition of Islam. They are fasting; they are praying."

                            Politicians who previously had lots to say on the matter were not nearly as eager to discuss the latest development.

                            Despite his outspoken opposition to the building of a mosque so close to Ground Zero, Rep. Peter King (R-LI) said only, "I don't respond to Hamas."

                            Mayor Bloomberg, a strong supporter of the plan, declined comment through a spokesman.

                            Feisal Abdul Rauf, the imam behind the proposed mosque, and two other leaders of the plan who previously had commented extensively, were silent yesterday.

                            They did not respond to The Post's phone calls or e-mails about the Hamas endorsement.

                            Hamas first came up in the mosque debate earlier this summer when Abdul Rauf refused to describe the group as a terrorist organization -- despite the State Department listing that identifies it as such.

                            Tom Brown, a chief opponent of the mosque, said: "This is what we've been saying . . . Imam Rauf is a radical Muslim who will not call Hamas a terror group."

                            A retired firefighter who was a first responder on 9/11, Brown lost 100 of his FDNY friends at the Twin Towers.

                            "How much evidence do we need that this guy is a radical Muslim?" he asked.

                            "If Rauf really were a bridge builder and an interfaith guy and all the things he professes to be, he wouldn't be doing this to people."

                            Abdul Rauf raised eyebrows last week when he departed on a State Department-sponsored goodwill mission to the Middle East, despite concerns that the trip may be helping him with the mosque's $100 million fund-raising goal.

                            The Obama administration insisted the trip, reportedly with stops in Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Bahrain and Qatar, was strictly to improve understanding about Muslim communities in the United States.

                            But a London-based Arabic-language newspaper that interviewed Abdul Rauf reported that he said he would also collect money from Muslim and Arab nations around the world -- raising the possibility that the American government is helping him build contacts in oil-rich states.

                            Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhatt...I#ixzz0wmPmaF7B

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                              I haven't seen THIS before...

                              but how do we know that this translation is accurate, and not fraudulent?

                              Beats me, but I do wonder...

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                                Ground zero mosque isn't a mosque. Quit the ignorant fear mongering. Besides this point, did you know there was an actual mosque inside the pentagon and has been for years. "just the facts ma'am"

                                http://politics.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/r...-at-ground-zero

                                Despite what you might have heard, a 13-story mosque is not going to be built at ground zero in lower Manhattan. For that matter, a 13-story mosque is not going to be built within a few blocks of ground zero. Rather a 13-story building is going up which will contain, among other things, a mosque.

                                This might seem like an academic distinction, but in the heated debate surrounding Park51, or as the building is known more commonly, the "ground zero mosque," it really is an important one.

                                First here are the facts: The building in question is planned to be a Muslim community center, a sort of YMCA (or, I suppose, YMMA). The plans are for it to have fitness facilities (swimming pool, gym, basketball court), a 500-seat auditorium, a restaurant and a cooking school, exhibition space, a library, art studios, a 9/11 memorial--the impudence! the outrage!--and childcare facilities (which no doubt will soon be referred to as a "Manhattan Madrasa"). And it's also going to house a mosque.

                                But calling the entire building a mosque is a bit like referring to the Empire State Building as a 103-story Walgreens because the pharmacy chain has a store on the ground floor.

                                And for that matter it's important to keep in mind that it's not at ground zero. It's two blocks north of ground zero, on a street running parallel to the old World Trade Center site. And as FiveThirtyEight's Nate Silver has observed, Park51

                                although somewhat architecturally daring does not contain minarets or other spire-like features that would give it greater prominence than an ordinary, 12-story building. Like dozens and dozens of other buildings, and several other places of worship near to Ground Zero, it would be quite well concealed among Lower Manhattan's dense street grid.

                                In other words to look at the building, you wouldn't say: Aha! A mosque! But the press routinely refers to the building as a mosque, and its critics often blur or are unclear about its location. So over the weekend, Texas GOP Sen. John Cornyn, the chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, said on Fox News Sunday that, "I do think it's unwise to build a mosque at the site where 3,000 Americans lost their lives as the result of a terrorist attack." (Emphasis added.)

                                Again, these may seem like small points, but they're not. This debate is taking place on a gut, emotional level. Reasonable critics argue, for example, that this is about sensitivity rather than about liberty. And on that gut level, there's a real difference between a 13-story mosque (which conjures images of a foreign looking structure with minarets and so forth) rising up out of--or even adjacent to--the hole in the ground that used to be the World Trade Center, and a 13-story community center tucked away on a side street a couple of blocks from ground zero. The former lends itself to the sort of irresponsible rhetoric of triumphalist Islamicists that Newt Gingrich goes on about. The latter is, well, reality.

                                What we're seeing here in 2010 is precisely what happened in NE a decade ago. It worked for them then, and it wiill work for us now. Why? Because it's the only way it's ever worked in pro football. Just ask Paul Brown. Or Vince Lombardi. Or Tom Landry. .02, Clemdawg
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                                  We pause this thread to respond with some REAL FACTS about the serious problems with the intended building

                                  of the Ground Zero mosque, and the dangers were it to be built:

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                                  http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-...ear-ground-zero

                                  The Cordoba Initiative mosque near Ground Zero

                                  June 4th, 2010 11:09 pm

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                                  A deeper look into the Cordoba Initiative and its president, Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf

                                  On May 25, Manhattan’s Community Board One voted 29-1 in favor of the mosque, called the Cordoba Initiative, to be built 600-feet from the North Tower’s foot print at Ground Zero.

                                  Prior to the board vote, a second mosque, the Masjid announced plans to build their mosque in the shadows of Ground Zero as well.

                                  Support for such an insult is to be expected by certain segments of American society. Sadly, many freedom loving people with a suicidal grip on the Constitution are also in support of the mosques going up near Ground Zero.

                                  The U.S. is currently engaged in a war effort against Islamic jihadists. True, we are not at war with Islam, but Islam (by decree) is at war with the West and all infidels (non-believers of Allah). There are many occurrences of jihad waged on American soil under the banner of Islam, but none as pivotal or devastating as the terror attacks that occurred on 9/11/2001.

                                  Ground Zero in Lower Manhattan, NYC, is one of the sites where Islamic jihadists struck the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center (WTC) killing tens of thousands of innocents.

                                  From the rubble of the WTC, Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf, president of the Cordoba Initiative, called for Islamic dawa and sharia law on American soil, usurping the American Constitution.

                                  Some that pride themselves as Patriots believe it is their constitutional duty to protect that Imam’s “right” to build his Initiative in the shadows of Ground Zero.

                                  The framers did not intend the Constitution to be a suicide pact, nor did the framers desire that the Constitution be used by our enemies or supporters of the same to tear us asunder, or as a tool to promote useful idiots.

                                  Supporters of dawa, jihad and sharia law and the furtherance of the same wrap themselves in a cloak of religious freedom and we say, “Welcome to America.” How easy are we?

                                  What is Dawa?

                                  Simply defined, dawa is a call to Islam. It is the manner in which dawa is utilized that poses the danger to the West.

                                  Robert Spencer, expert on Islamic studies and director of Jihad Watch, explains:

                                  “Dawa is Islamic proselytizing and in Islamic law dawa precedes jihad. You call the nonbelievers to Islam. And if they refuse to accept it, then you initiate a jihad against them. But the whole goal of both dawa and jihad is to impose Islamic law or sharia upon the nonbelievers as a political system, not as a religious one.”

                                  Abu ‘Ubeid Al-Qurashi, Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaeda lieutenant, Admits to September 11 and Explains Al-Qa'ida's Combat Doctrine; in that doctrine those responsible for creating the rubble at Ground Zero called dawa “integral to triumph in fourth-generation warfare.”

                                  The Islamic Dawa Party, the current ruling Party in Iraq, is rooted in a radical past and along with The Islamic Jihad Organization is linked to the 1983 suicide terrorist bombing of the US embassy in Kuwait.

                                  As mentioned earlier, the president of the Cordoba Initiative, Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf calls for sharia law in America and from the WTC Rubble, Islamic Dawa; this is the imam’s own words and in the title and content of his books.

                                  The Cordoba Initiative purchased the property near Ground Zero for 4.85 million-dollars and paid cash (no paper trail).

                                  The Cordoba Initiative: What’s in a Name

                                  The Cordoba Initiative is an organization whose very name makes reference to what was, 1,000 years ago, one of the world’s most advanced cities, Cordoba, Al-Andalus (Spain). This was a city that was politically and religiously dominated by Islam, and a city that was conquered by jihad (holy war).

                                  “History is usually interesting, but always relevant.”- AmericanAngle

                                  Cordoba, Spain was rich with grand mosques and for centuries Spain endured Muslim tyranny, only to be replaced by even more radical Islamic regimes. That was until the Reconquista finally wiped out memories of those dark centuries when Spain had its identity subsumed by being a colony of the Muslims. Not only was Spain reborn, so was a New World.

                                  Imam Faisal’s Cordoba initiative may restore some of Islam’s lost glory. No wonder he calls for dawa from the heart of America; Ground Zero, the site of the rebirth of Islam’s holy war in the West.

                                  Additional Background

                                  The Cordoba Initiative was founded in 2003 by Rauf and is funded by the Malaysian government. Sharia law operates in some Malaysian states and has been applied to non-Muslims in that country. Malays are defined as Muslim by law and forbidden from converting.

                                  Hard-line Islamic law could be introduced across all of Malaysia under reforms proposed by the country's chief justice.

                                  In 2006, Imam Rauf started the Shariah Index Project, which will be carried out by the Cordoba Initiative. In addition to its New York office, the Cordoba initiative has offices in Malaysia.

                                  Faisal Rauf’s father Dr. Muhammad Abdul Rauf (1917-2004) was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.

                                  The Muslim Brotherhood believes in a radical application of jihad. Their ideology was adopted by terrorist organizations such as al-Qaeda and Hamas. The Muslim Brotherhood also promotes violence against the U.S. and Israel.

                                  The Nazi regime needed useful idiots as did Lenin who coined the phrase, “useful idiots of the West.”

                                  Has the West given birth to a new generation of useful idiots for an Islamic ideology and regime?

                                  The Cordoba Initiative is raising an additional 100 million dollars for construction. Once completed the mosque will be housed on the top floor of the 13 or 15 story building and will enjoy an expansive view of Ground Zero.

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                                    For further reading, go to this site and read up on the sharia index project. It will be housed

                                    secretly ? in that same building.

                                    IOW's, we're talking about a jihadist Trojan Horse.

                                    Isn't it nice to know the truth about things?

                                    http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/203619.php

                                    We now return you to the silly yet dangerous "head in the sand" programming for your entertainment.

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                                      Oh, and two blocks north of Ground Zero, IS Ground Zero - don't be a knucklehead.

                                      The plenty of the towers' rubble ended up far beyond those two blocks.

                                      Who is the one being ignorant?

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                                        Oh, and two blocks north of Ground Zero, IS Ground Zero - don't be a knucklehead.

                                        The plenty of the towers' rubble ended up far beyond those two blocks.

                                        Who is the one being ignorant?

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                                        @calfoxwc said:

                                        Oh, and two blocks north of Ground Zero, IS Ground Zero - don't be a knucklehead.

                                        The plenty of the towers' rubble ended up far beyond those two blocks.

                                        Who is the one being ignorant?

                                        that all depends. Have you ever been to Nyc? do you still believe it to be a mosque? and whats your stance on the mosque in the pentagon?

                                        What we're seeing here in 2010 is precisely what happened in NE a decade ago. It worked for them then, and it wiill work for us now. Why? Because it's the only way it's ever worked in pro football. Just ask Paul Brown. Or Vince Lombardi. Or Tom Landry. .02, Clemdawg
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                                          We pause this thread to respond with some REAL FACTS about the serious problems with the intended building

                                          of the Ground Zero mosque, and the dangers were it to be built:

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                                          http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-...ear-ground-zero

                                          The Cordoba Initiative mosque near Ground Zero

                                          June 4th, 2010 11:09 pm

                                          .

                                          A deeper look into the Cordoba Initiative and its president, Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf

                                          On May 25, Manhattan’s Community Board One voted 29-1 in favor of the mosque, called the Cordoba Initiative, to be built 600-feet from the North Tower’s foot print at Ground Zero.

                                          Prior to the board vote, a second mosque, the Masjid announced plans to build their mosque in the shadows of Ground Zero as well.

                                          Support for such an insult is to be expected by certain segments of American society. Sadly, many freedom loving people with a suicidal grip on the Constitution are also in support of the mosques going up near Ground Zero.

                                          The U.S. is currently engaged in a war effort against Islamic jihadists. True, we are not at war with Islam, but Islam (by decree) is at war with the West and all infidels (non-believers of Allah). There are many occurrences of jihad waged on American soil under the banner of Islam, but none as pivotal or devastating as the terror attacks that occurred on 9/11/2001.

                                          Ground Zero in Lower Manhattan, NYC, is one of the sites where Islamic jihadists struck the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center (WTC) killing tens of thousands of innocents.

                                          From the rubble of the WTC, Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf, president of the Cordoba Initiative, called for Islamic dawa and sharia law on American soil, usurping the American Constitution.

                                          Some that pride themselves as Patriots believe it is their constitutional duty to protect that Imam’s “right” to build his Initiative in the shadows of Ground Zero.

                                          The framers did not intend the Constitution to be a suicide pact, nor did the framers desire that the Constitution be used by our enemies or supporters of the same to tear us asunder, or as a tool to promote useful idiots.

                                          Supporters of dawa, jihad and sharia law and the furtherance of the same wrap themselves in a cloak of religious freedom and we say, “Welcome to America.” How easy are we?

                                          What is Dawa?

                                          Simply defined, dawa is a call to Islam. It is the manner in which dawa is utilized that poses the danger to the West.

                                          Robert Spencer, expert on Islamic studies and director of Jihad Watch, explains:

                                          “Dawa is Islamic proselytizing and in Islamic law dawa precedes jihad. You call the nonbelievers to Islam. And if they refuse to accept it, then you initiate a jihad against them. But the whole goal of both dawa and jihad is to impose Islamic law or sharia upon the nonbelievers as a political system, not as a religious one.”

                                          Abu ‘Ubeid Al-Qurashi, Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaeda lieutenant, Admits to September 11 and Explains Al-Qa'ida's Combat Doctrine; in that doctrine those responsible for creating the rubble at Ground Zero called dawa “integral to triumph in fourth-generation warfare.”

                                          The Islamic Dawa Party, the current ruling Party in Iraq, is rooted in a radical past and along with The Islamic Jihad Organization is linked to the 1983 suicide terrorist bombing of the US embassy in Kuwait.

                                          As mentioned earlier, the president of the Cordoba Initiative, Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf calls for sharia law in America and from the WTC Rubble, Islamic Dawa; this is the imam’s own words and in the title and content of his books.

                                          The Cordoba Initiative purchased the property near Ground Zero for 4.85 million-dollars and paid cash (no paper trail).

                                          The Cordoba Initiative: What’s in a Name

                                          The Cordoba Initiative is an organization whose very name makes reference to what was, 1,000 years ago, one of the world’s most advanced cities, Cordoba, Al-Andalus (Spain). This was a city that was politically and religiously dominated by Islam, and a city that was conquered by jihad (holy war).

                                          “History is usually interesting, but always relevant.”- AmericanAngle

                                          Cordoba, Spain was rich with grand mosques and for centuries Spain endured Muslim tyranny, only to be replaced by even more radical Islamic regimes. That was until the Reconquista finally wiped out memories of those dark centuries when Spain had its identity subsumed by being a colony of the Muslims. Not only was Spain reborn, so was a New World.

                                          Imam Faisal’s Cordoba initiative may restore some of Islam’s lost glory. No wonder he calls for dawa from the heart of America; Ground Zero, the site of the rebirth of Islam’s holy war in the West.

                                          Additional Background

                                          The Cordoba Initiative was founded in 2003 by Rauf and is funded by the Malaysian government. Sharia law operates in some Malaysian states and has been applied to non-Muslims in that country. Malays are defined as Muslim by law and forbidden from converting.

                                          Hard-line Islamic law could be introduced across all of Malaysia under reforms proposed by the country's chief justice.

                                          In 2006, Imam Rauf started the Shariah Index Project, which will be carried out by the Cordoba Initiative. In addition to its New York office, the Cordoba initiative has offices in Malaysia.

                                          Faisal Rauf’s father Dr. Muhammad Abdul Rauf (1917-2004) was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.

                                          The Muslim Brotherhood believes in a radical application of jihad. Their ideology was adopted by terrorist organizations such as al-Qaeda and Hamas. The Muslim Brotherhood also promotes violence against the U.S. and Israel.

                                          The Nazi regime needed useful idiots as did Lenin who coined the phrase, “useful idiots of the West.”

                                          Has the West given birth to a new generation of useful idiots for an Islamic ideology and regime?

                                          The Cordoba Initiative is raising an additional 100 million dollars for construction. Once completed the mosque will be housed on the top floor of the 13 or 15 story building and will enjoy an expansive view of Ground Zero.

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                                          We pause this thread to respond with some REAL FACTS about the serious problems with the intended building

                                          of the Ground Zero mosque, and the dangers were it to be built:

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                                          http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-...ear-ground-zero

                                          The Cordoba Initiative mosque near Ground Zero

                                          June 4th, 2010 11:09 pm

                                          .

                                          A deeper look into the Cordoba Initiative and its president, Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf

                                          On May 25, Manhattan’s Community Board One voted 29-1 in favor of the mosque, called the Cordoba Initiative, to be built 600-feet from the North Tower’s foot print at Ground Zero.

                                          Prior to the board vote, a second mosque, the Masjid announced plans to build their mosque in the shadows of Ground Zero as well.

                                          Support for such an insult is to be expected by certain segments of American society. Sadly, many freedom loving people with a suicidal grip on the Constitution are also in support of the mosques going up near Ground Zero.

                                          The U.S. is currently engaged in a war effort against Islamic jihadists. True, we are not at war with Islam, but Islam (by decree) is at war with the West and all infidels (non-believers of Allah). There are many occurrences of jihad waged on American soil under the banner of Islam, but none as pivotal or devastating as the terror attacks that occurred on 9/11/2001.

                                          Ground Zero in Lower Manhattan, NYC, is one of the sites where Islamic jihadists struck the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center (WTC) killing tens of thousands of innocents.

                                          From the rubble of the WTC, Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf, president of the Cordoba Initiative, called for Islamic dawa and sharia law on American soil, usurping the American Constitution.

                                          Some that pride themselves as Patriots believe it is their constitutional duty to protect that Imam’s “right” to build his Initiative in the shadows of Ground Zero.

                                          The framers did not intend the Constitution to be a suicide pact, nor did the framers desire that the Constitution be used by our enemies or supporters of the same to tear us asunder, or as a tool to promote useful idiots.

                                          Supporters of dawa, jihad and sharia law and the furtherance of the same wrap themselves in a cloak of religious freedom and we say, “Welcome to America.” How easy are we?

                                          What is Dawa?

                                          Simply defined, dawa is a call to Islam. It is the manner in which dawa is utilized that poses the danger to the West.

                                          Robert Spencer, expert on Islamic studies and director of Jihad Watch, explains:

                                          “Dawa is Islamic proselytizing and in Islamic law dawa precedes jihad. You call the nonbelievers to Islam. And if they refuse to accept it, then you initiate a jihad against them. But the whole goal of both dawa and jihad is to impose Islamic law or sharia upon the nonbelievers as a political system, not as a religious one.”

                                          Abu ‘Ubeid Al-Qurashi, Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaeda lieutenant, Admits to September 11 and Explains Al-Qa'ida's Combat Doctrine; in that doctrine those responsible for creating the rubble at Ground Zero called dawa “integral to triumph in fourth-generation warfare.”

                                          The Islamic Dawa Party, the current ruling Party in Iraq, is rooted in a radical past and along with The Islamic Jihad Organization is linked to the 1983 suicide terrorist bombing of the US embassy in Kuwait.

                                          As mentioned earlier, the president of the Cordoba Initiative, Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf calls for sharia law in America and from the WTC Rubble, Islamic Dawa; this is the imam’s own words and in the title and content of his books.

                                          The Cordoba Initiative purchased the property near Ground Zero for 4.85 million-dollars and paid cash (no paper trail).

                                          The Cordoba Initiative: What’s in a Name

                                          The Cordoba Initiative is an organization whose very name makes reference to what was, 1,000 years ago, one of the world’s most advanced cities, Cordoba, Al-Andalus (Spain). This was a city that was politically and religiously dominated by Islam, and a city that was conquered by jihad (holy war).

                                          “History is usually interesting, but always relevant.”- AmericanAngle

                                          Cordoba, Spain was rich with grand mosques and for centuries Spain endured Muslim tyranny, only to be replaced by even more radical Islamic regimes. That was until the Reconquista finally wiped out memories of those dark centuries when Spain had its identity subsumed by being a colony of the Muslims. Not only was Spain reborn, so was a New World.

                                          Imam Faisal’s Cordoba initiative may restore some of Islam’s lost glory. No wonder he calls for dawa from the heart of America; Ground Zero, the site of the rebirth of Islam’s holy war in the West.

                                          Additional Background

                                          The Cordoba Initiative was founded in 2003 by Rauf and is funded by the Malaysian government. Sharia law operates in some Malaysian states and has been applied to non-Muslims in that country. Malays are defined as Muslim by law and forbidden from converting.

                                          Hard-line Islamic law could be introduced across all of Malaysia under reforms proposed by the country's chief justice.

                                          In 2006, Imam Rauf started the Shariah Index Project, which will be carried out by the Cordoba Initiative. In addition to its New York office, the Cordoba initiative has offices in Malaysia.

                                          Faisal Rauf’s father Dr. Muhammad Abdul Rauf (1917-2004) was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.

                                          The Muslim Brotherhood believes in a radical application of jihad. Their ideology was adopted by terrorist organizations such as al-Qaeda and Hamas. The Muslim Brotherhood also promotes violence against the U.S. and Israel.

                                          The Nazi regime needed useful idiots as did Lenin who coined the phrase, “useful idiots of the West.”

                                          Has the West given birth to a new generation of useful idiots for an Islamic ideology and regime?

                                          The Cordoba Initiative is raising an additional 100 million dollars for construction. Once completed the mosque will be housed on the top floor of the 13 or 15 story building and will enjoy an expansive view of Ground Zero.

                                          I stopped after the author said that the. 9/11 attacks killed 'tens of thousands of innocents.' It was about 3000, which is still every bit as terrible. However, that level of ignorance and disregard for facts makes one question everything else you've stated.

                                          THESE ARE FACTS?!

                                          What we're seeing here in 2010 is precisely what happened in NE a decade ago. It worked for them then, and it wiill work for us now. Why? Because it's the only way it's ever worked in pro football. Just ask Paul Brown. Or Vince Lombardi. Or Tom Landry. .02, Clemdawg
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