Pass Rush
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Unless Rob Ryan brings the kitchen sink on every down, which is a dangerous proposition, right now the Browns pass rush seems to be awfully weak. I believe that a pass rusher will be a priority for them next year. (Thanks Kam Wimbley....for nothing). Here are some potential top prospects for the pass rush role in the 2011 draft. Yes, premature to talk draft when this season hasn't started, but it was always going to take a couple or 3 years for Holmgren to build this team. Let's look at some possible future defensive players:
Adrian Clayborn, Iowa
Cameron Heyward, Ohio State
Bruce Carter, North Carolina
Allen Bailey, Miami Fla.
Von Miller, Texas A&M
Greg Romeus, Pitt
Pernell McPhee (Nanny?) Mississippi St.
Mark Herzlich, Boston College
Robert Quinn, N. Carolina
Marcell Dareus, Alabama
Jurrell Casey, USC (tackle)
Jeremy Beal, Oklahoma
Do any of these float your boat?
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All I know is it will have to be somebody who is available in the mid-first because we are winning at least 7 this year!
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Yeah being an OSU fan i think Cameron Heyward is a stud, i also like the DT/DE from Alabama Marcell Dareus who had the TD in the BCS championship game last year hes gonna be a beast better than Terrance Cody i believe, i like Robert Quinn from UNC as well...What i was thinking about as well is the two best Corner prospects that have come out in a long while are gonna be in next years draft Patrick Peterson from LSU and Prince Amukamara from Nebraska which makes me only hope all the more that Haden does become that legit shutdown corner....But good thing for us is that next year is one of the deepest years for WR's in a long time something we desperatly need
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Mark Herzlich, Boston College I see alot of Him evry Saturday Being from Mass very good Linbacker see for yourslef.
http://bceagles.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/m...ich_mark00.html
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I've seen Heyward play quite a few times, he would seem to be a great fit for our team. We could be going QB on that first pick if the team isn't satisfied with Colt's potential
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I totaly agree we need to find some rushers on dline and also a playmaker lb. The thing is we are real close to having a real good d. We need two lbs and a dominant de and were there. That's 3 players..
I'm stoke we play detriot this weekend. I hopee we have a solid showing in our dress rehearsal
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Im still hoping we can pull a rabbit out of the hat instead of throwing the whole hat at the opposition this year as far as a pass rush is concerned..a second late and a sack short sucks especially CB blitzes particularly when it leaves abram " delayed reaction" elam or mike "i think im lost" adams or brandon 'where am i" mcdonald in man coverage with even a slug with bad hands, it quickly becomes a potentially dangerous situation with a minimal of an almost assured catch...
We have a serious nickel and secondary quality depth problem in general along with a problem disguising coverages/blitzes as the rams revealed.. lets hope its just preseason vanilla because if its not we could opportunistically get burned at just the right time all year...
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Im still hoping we can pull a rabbit out of the hat instead of throwing the whole hat at the opposition this year as far as a pass rush is concerned..a second late and a sack short sucks especially CB blitzes particularly when it leaves abram " delayed reaction" elam or mike "i think im lost" adams or brandon 'where am i" mcdonald in man coverage with even a slug with bad hands, it quickly becomes a potentially dangerous situation with a minimal of an almost assured catch...
We have a serious nickel and secondary quality depth problem in general along with a problem disguising coverages/blitzes as the rams revealed.. lets hope its just preseason vanilla because if its not we could opportunistically get burned at just the right time all year...
Im still hoping we can pull a rabbit out of the hat instead of throwing the whole hat at the opposition this year as far as a pass rush is concerned..a second late and a sack short sucks especially CB blitzes particularly when it leaves abram " delayed reaction" elam or mike "i think im lost" adams or brandon 'where am i" mcdonald in man coverage with even a slug with bad hands, it quickly becomes a potentially dangerous situation with a minimal of an almost assured catch...
We have a serious nickel and secondary quality depth problem in general along with a problem disguising coverages/blitzes as the rams revealed.. lets hope its just preseason vanilla because if its not we could opportunistically get burned at just the right time all year...
From what Ive seen our secondary imo is as deep as its been in years. Wright, Brown, Haden, McDonald, Adams, Ward, Ventrone, Abrams have all looked good to me so far. I think when the entire Dline is starting that our LBs will provide a better pass rush than we see now. Still a weak point for us though along with WR. I dont understand why we didnt look harder at some free agent or draftable WR's. Carlton Mitchel has shown me nothing yet. I thought BR should have layed out for that TD pass the other night too. So far Stucky has looked better than anyone and thats a problem.
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Cameron Heyward...execpt usually OSU players suck in the NFL so im not so sure.
Predicted Records:2010: 8-82011: 8-82012: 9-72013: 5-112014: 6-10 -
Yes we will need to find playmakers next year but our pass rush will be fine this year. Improved secondary play will help in that department. Don't forget we had 40 sacks last year and are only improved in all defensive positions.
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Yes we will need to find playmakers next year but our pass rush will be fine this year. Improved secondary play will help in that department. Don't forget we had 40 sacks last year and are only improved in all defensive positions.
Yes we will need to find playmakers next year but our pass rush will be fine this year. Improved secondary play will help in that department. Don't forget we had 40 sacks last year and are only improved in all defensive positions.
While 40 sacks is nothin to sneeze at, the Browns still finished near the bottom of total team defense last year in terms of passing and rushing yards relinquished. i think age is an important consideration when
evaluating our line. A great majority of our d line is at or above 30 years old....In no way are they washed up but you got to consider a push on gettting some young talent up and running. As is, i don't think
we have a legit playmaker on our d line. I hope i am proven wrong in a big way
Just throwing it out there
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Cameron Heyward...execpt usually OSU players suck in the NFL so im not so sure.
Cameron Heyward...execpt usually OSU players suck in the NFL so im not so sure.
Wow, you can't be serious.
While there have been some Buckeyes who didn't live up to expectations (Archie Griffin, Art Schlichter, for instance), many Buckeyes have represented well in the NFL.
I'm not concerned with 2011's draft at this time, just surprised to see a comment like that.
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Cameron Heyward...execpt usually OSU players suck in the NFL so im not so sure.
Cameron Heyward...execpt usually OSU players suck in the NFL so im not so sure.
yeah that's way oof base. osu usually put out some of the best players in the nfl period.
NFL Draft selections
Total selected: 329
First picks in draft: 3
1st Round: 68
NFL achievements
Total Players: 308
In the Super Bowl: 54
Hall of Famers: 7
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Cameron Heyward...execpt usually OSU players suck in the NFL so im not so sure.
yeah that's way oof base. osu usually put out some of the best players in the nfl period.
NFL Draft selections
Total selected: 329
First picks in draft: 3
1st Round: 68
NFL achievements
Total Players: 308
In the Super Bowl: 54
Hall of Famers: 7
yeah that's way oof base. osu usually put out some of the best players in the nfl period.
NFL Draft selections
Total selected: 329
First picks in draft: 3
1st Round: 68
NFL achievements
Total Players: 308
In the Super Bowl: 54
Hall of Famers: 7
Yeah - OSU player really have sucked...
Eddie George
Orlando Pace
Joey Galloway
Dante Lavelli
Pete Johnson
LeCharles Bentley (until the knee)
Jim Marshall
Pepper Johnson
Mike Vrabel
Will Smith
Shawn Springs
Antoine Winfield
Jack Tatum
Paul Warfield
A.J. Hawk
Keith Byars
Bill Willis
Chris Spielman
Need more proof?
CHANGE IS GOOD -
When Rogers comes back, hopefully at DE (my opinion), our pass rush will be blessed with IMMEDIATE improvement. One guy, & usually 2, CANNOT block him. That frees up a lot of options & opportunities to get in the opposition's backfield.
Mike
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Cameron Heyward...execpt usually OSU players suck in the NFL so im not so sure.
Cameron Heyward...execpt usually OSU players suck in the NFL so im not so sure.
Really? If OSU players suck in the NFL then why is OSU like 3rd on the list of most graduates that have made the Pro Football Hall of Fame with maybe a couple of others on the way, like Chris Carter for sure, Orlando Pace. It might also behoove you to look at the Pro Bowl rosters and see where those guys went to school.
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yeah that's way oof base. osu usually put out some of the best players in the nfl period.
NFL Draft selections
Total selected: 329
First picks in draft: 3
1st Round: 68
NFL achievements
Total Players: 308
In the Super Bowl: 54
Hall of Famers: 7
Yeah - OSU player really have sucked...
Eddie George
Orlando Pace
Joey Galloway
Dante Lavelli
Pete Johnson
LeCharles Bentley (until the knee)
Jim Marshall
Pepper Johnson
Mike Vrabel
Will Smith
Shawn Springs
Antoine Winfield
Jack Tatum
Paul Warfield
A.J. Hawk
Keith Byars
Bill Willis
Chris Spielman
Need more proof?
Yeah - OSU player really have sucked...
Eddie George
Orlando Pace
Joey Galloway
Dante Lavelli
Pete Johnson
LeCharles Bentley (until the knee)
Jim Marshall
Pepper Johnson
Mike Vrabel
Will Smith
Shawn Springs
Antoine Winfield
Jack Tatum
Paul Warfield
A.J. Hawk
Keith Byars
Bill Willis
Chris Spielman
Need more proof?
If he does, here it is. OSU players with number of Pro Bowls:
Tony Adamle 2
Todd Bell 1
David Boston 1
John Brockington 3
Fred Bruny 3
Nate Clements 1
Chris Carter 8
Mike Current 1
Tom DeLeone 2
Dave Foley 1
Tim Fox 1
Doug France 1
Shaun Gayle 1
Eddie George 4
Horace Gillom 1
Terry Glenn 1
Randy Gradishar 7
Lou Groza 9
Jim Houston 4
Tommy James 1
Pepper Johnson 2
Pete Johnson 1
Tom Kean 1
Jim Lachey 3
Dick LeBeau 3
Nick Mangold 2
Jim Marshall 1
Tom Matte 2
Fred Morrison 1
Jim Otis 1
Orlando Pace 7
Jim Parker 8
William Roberts 1
Dick Shafrath 6
Bob Shaw 1
Tom Skladany 1
Robert Smith 2
Will Smith 1
Matt Snell 3
Chris Spielman 4
Shawn Springs 1
Korey Stringer 1
Jack Tatum 3
Jim Tyrer 9
Dick Van Raphorst 1
Bob Vogel 5
Mike Vrabel 1
Paul Warfield 8
Bill Willis 3
Antoine Winfield 3
Ernie Wright 1
Gust Zarnas 1
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imho, you shouldn't get too high or too low about what you see during preseason games. i don't think the browns d is going to look like this when the games count. it would be best to wait until the games matter and see how the d is then. i seriously doubt rr is going to show much before the season opener.
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yeah that's way oof base. osu usually put out some of the best players in the nfl period.
NFL Draft selections
Total selected: 329
First picks in draft: 3
1st Round: 68
NFL achievements
Total Players: 308
In the Super Bowl: 54
Hall of Famers: 7
Yeah - OSU player really have sucked...
Eddie George
Orlando Pace
Joey Galloway
Dante Lavelli
Pete Johnson
LeCharles Bentley (until the knee)
Jim Marshall
Pepper Johnson
Mike Vrabel
Will Smith
Shawn Springs
Antoine Winfield
Jack Tatum
Paul Warfield
A.J. Hawk
Keith Byars
Bill Willis
Chris Spielman
Need more proof?
Yeah - OSU player really have sucked...
Eddie George
Orlando Pace
Joey Galloway
Dante Lavelli
Pete Johnson
LeCharles Bentley (until the knee)
Jim Marshall
Pepper Johnson
Mike Vrabel
Will Smith
Shawn Springs
Antoine Winfield
Jack Tatum
Paul Warfield
A.J. Hawk
Keith Byars
Bill Willis
Chris Spielman
Need more proof?
yeah, doing a little research before making a bold statement never hurts.
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