UNC liberaries will not celebrate Christmas
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Where I work no religious decorations are allowed. I purposely say "Merry Christmas" to all I see. It is called "CHRISTmas" after all. What is wrong with our country?
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
For publicly funded institutions it should be secularized. For private organizations, let them do whatever the hell they want to.
That snowman thing was bullshit though.
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
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Christmas trees, etc, are NOT ESTABLISHING A RELIGION. Even the Nativity is NOT ESTABLISHING A RELIGION.
It is simply celebrating a holiday, and in terms of the Nativity, a religious holiday, that the majority of PEOPLE in a town
are comfortable with, believe in, ...
and given the historical nature of our nation's Christian background during the creation of our country,
I find that the prevention of Christian or Christmas symbols is an abridgement of freedom of speech and religion, and it prohibits
the free exercise and expression of the majority's Christian basic faith and values.
To censor the majority of expression is a control mechanism, and is unconstitutional. Let towns vote. Majority rules.
Then, let the minority accept it.
The prevention of religion, is a religion in itself.
Stopping Christmas is a bunch of baloney. THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS HAVE RIGHTS, TOO !
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I doubt you would enjoy it if a government funded institution displayed any symbols other than a christmas tree or nativity scene alone. If there is government funding then anything that is displayed is being endorsed by the government. And lucky for us, the united states is not a democracy. One of the cornerstones of the constitution is to protect the minority from being oppressed by the majority. Not displaying christmas trees in a publicly funded building isn't destroying christmas. It is in no way getting in the way of your rights.
And anyway, f**k christmas. It is all about buying diamonds and other bullshit for people, and there isn't even any evidence of Jesus Christ as a real man from a contemporaneous source.
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
For publicly funded institutions it should be secularized. For private organizations, let them do whatever the hell they want to.
That snowman thing was bullshit though.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
For publicly funded institutions it should be secularized. For private organizations, let them do whatever the hell they want to.
That snowman thing was bullshit though.
get the wording right!
God is in control!
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“First Amendment freedoms are most in danger when the government seeks to control thought or to justify its laws for that impermissible end. The right to think is the beginning of freedom, and speech must be protected from the government because speech is the beginning of thought.”—Supreme Court Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, Ashcroft V. Free Speech Coalition
couldn't of said it any better.
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But I don't see that the minority should have exclusive rights to infringe on the majority's exercise of free speech.
and the VAST majority of Americans are Christian based in their beliefs.
Didn't a Kansas City airport put in footbaths for Muslims to wash their feet?
and the ACLU concurred.
So, don't be messin with small town Christmas. Denying Christmas in public settings is
an abridgement of the majority's right to free expression of the holiday.
Although, I have never heard of a non-Christian employee being angry that he got a
paid Christmas holiday...
Sometimes the world just seems to be becoming a bit backwards.
If the majority aren't allowed to have Christmas in their libraries, then the majority
should simply not vote for tax levies for the libraries and let the several
nose out of joints pay for maintaining and upgrading the libraries.
Then, I could see not having Christmas in the libraries... almost.
Hands off my Christmas !!!
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Well, I guess if the vast majority of people are christian it makes it okay. While we are at it, let's also put the ten commandments in the library too, and a holy-water fountain in the capital building! Taking religion out of government funded institution is not an abridgment of anybodies rights to celebrate any holiday. It is simply making government secular, just like it should be.
The majority you talk about isn't putting the christmas crap up anyway, it is a few people who work at the libraries that don't understand exactly what the government funding means.
And all this "rights of majority" stuff, sounds a lot like communism. I know you love communism.
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just beautiful man!
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Yeah, a mother and child is beautiful.
But Jesus? Probably never existed. No contemporary accounts of him (and there were lots of scribes in 1st century Palestine) There was no 1st century city of Nazareth. Nazareth comes around a couple of centuries later in both the archaeological and historical record. Jesus probably was just a composite of ancient pagan and Jewish heroes and never actually existed.
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I actually watched that video. It tells nothing. Half of it is about the bible, which cannot be taken as truth no matter how much anybody says you can.
All of the pagan writers referred to are not contemporary to Jesus. Some of those writers don't even refer to Jesus Christ, just the virgin birth and etc. But that could refer to lots of different pagan myths with a similar story (virgin birth, miracles, persecution) not necessarily Jesus. We would probably have a better idea if the Christians weren't dicks who killed all of the pagans that said, "Hey this jesus story is the same as our Horus/Dionysus stories." and then burned all of the books of the ancient pagan world.
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i suppose in your twisted world the Nazis didn't commit genocide.
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Well to those who believe .......Merry Christmas Jesus Christ is King!
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@inspecta said:
It's fine if you don't want to believe Jesus was the son of God, it's your perogative, but to intentionally poke people with such absurd claims that Jesus never existed is just asinine.I've been down that debate many many times, and there is overwhelming evidence of the existance of Jesus the person. Whether or not He was divine is a matter of faith, but don't be a simpleton with such claims that He is a composite of other "heroes"
There actually is no evidence of Jesus as a person. Almost all "evidence" were fakes hundreds or even a thousand years later. There probably was a guy named jesus at some point, but not Jesus Christ. Nazareth didn't exist until the second century at the earliest, and yes, jesus shares many strikingly similar characteristics of pagan heroes/godmen that were worshiped thousands of years before the alleged existence of Jesus Christ.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa3.htm
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PB&J likes to stir the pot, like some other people on here. Who cares what he/she believes. Your own beliefs are the only ones that matter.
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@inspecta said:
It's fine if you don't want to believe Jesus was the son of God, it's your perogative, but to intentionally poke people with such absurd claims that Jesus never existed is just asinine.I've been down that debate many many times, and there is overwhelming evidence of the existance of Jesus the person. Whether or not He was divine is a matter of faith, but don't be a simpleton with such claims that He is a composite of other "heroes"
There actually is no evidence of Jesus as a person. Almost all "evidence" were fakes hundreds or even a thousand years later. There probably was a guy named jesus at some point, but not Jesus Christ. Nazareth didn't exist until the second century at the earliest, and yes, jesus shares many strikingly similar characteristics of pagan heroes/godmen that were worshiped thousands of years before the alleged existence of Jesus Christ.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa3.htm
There actually is no evidence of Jesus as a person. Almost all "evidence" were fakes hundreds or even a thousand years later. There probably was a guy named jesus at some point, but not Jesus Christ. Nazareth didn't exist until the second century at the earliest, and yes, jesus shares many strikingly similar characteristics of pagan heroes/godmen that were worshiped thousands of years before the alleged existence of Jesus Christ.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa3.htm
So, you are a Pagan? Do you paint your face black? You sound like a freak. Dismissed.
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@diehardbrownsfan said:
So, you are a Pagan? Do you paint your face black? You sound like a freak. Dismissed.@diehardbrownsfan said:
mz the pussy cant take criticism. He resorts to insults. Look at his history. I would can his ass. -
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