UNC liberaries will not celebrate Christmas
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Yeah, a mother and child is beautiful.
But Jesus? Probably never existed. No contemporary accounts of him (and there were lots of scribes in 1st century Palestine) There was no 1st century city of Nazareth. Nazareth comes around a couple of centuries later in both the archaeological and historical record. Jesus probably was just a composite of ancient pagan and Jewish heroes and never actually existed.
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I actually watched that video. It tells nothing. Half of it is about the bible, which cannot be taken as truth no matter how much anybody says you can.
All of the pagan writers referred to are not contemporary to Jesus. Some of those writers don't even refer to Jesus Christ, just the virgin birth and etc. But that could refer to lots of different pagan myths with a similar story (virgin birth, miracles, persecution) not necessarily Jesus. We would probably have a better idea if the Christians weren't dicks who killed all of the pagans that said, "Hey this jesus story is the same as our Horus/Dionysus stories." and then burned all of the books of the ancient pagan world.
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i suppose in your twisted world the Nazis didn't commit genocide.
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Well to those who believe .......Merry Christmas Jesus Christ is King!
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@inspecta said:
It's fine if you don't want to believe Jesus was the son of God, it's your perogative, but to intentionally poke people with such absurd claims that Jesus never existed is just asinine.I've been down that debate many many times, and there is overwhelming evidence of the existance of Jesus the person. Whether or not He was divine is a matter of faith, but don't be a simpleton with such claims that He is a composite of other "heroes"
There actually is no evidence of Jesus as a person. Almost all "evidence" were fakes hundreds or even a thousand years later. There probably was a guy named jesus at some point, but not Jesus Christ. Nazareth didn't exist until the second century at the earliest, and yes, jesus shares many strikingly similar characteristics of pagan heroes/godmen that were worshiped thousands of years before the alleged existence of Jesus Christ.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa3.htm
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PB&J likes to stir the pot, like some other people on here. Who cares what he/she believes. Your own beliefs are the only ones that matter.
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@inspecta said:
It's fine if you don't want to believe Jesus was the son of God, it's your perogative, but to intentionally poke people with such absurd claims that Jesus never existed is just asinine.I've been down that debate many many times, and there is overwhelming evidence of the existance of Jesus the person. Whether or not He was divine is a matter of faith, but don't be a simpleton with such claims that He is a composite of other "heroes"
There actually is no evidence of Jesus as a person. Almost all "evidence" were fakes hundreds or even a thousand years later. There probably was a guy named jesus at some point, but not Jesus Christ. Nazareth didn't exist until the second century at the earliest, and yes, jesus shares many strikingly similar characteristics of pagan heroes/godmen that were worshiped thousands of years before the alleged existence of Jesus Christ.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa3.htm
There actually is no evidence of Jesus as a person. Almost all "evidence" were fakes hundreds or even a thousand years later. There probably was a guy named jesus at some point, but not Jesus Christ. Nazareth didn't exist until the second century at the earliest, and yes, jesus shares many strikingly similar characteristics of pagan heroes/godmen that were worshiped thousands of years before the alleged existence of Jesus Christ.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa3.htm
So, you are a Pagan? Do you paint your face black? You sound like a freak. Dismissed.
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@diehardbrownsfan said:
So, you are a Pagan? Do you paint your face black? You sound like a freak. Dismissed.@diehardbrownsfan said:
mz the pussy cant take criticism. He resorts to insults. Look at his history. I would can his ass. -
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I believe it is an illustration of your hypocrisy.
@diehardbrownsfan said:
So, you are a Pagan? Do you paint your face black? You sound like a freak. Dismissed.I never said I was a pagan, I don't paint my face black and who gives a damn if I did? You sound like the xenophobic and bigoted god described in the old testament. How are you so sure you are correct?
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@inspecta said:
It's fine if you don't want to believe Jesus was the son of God, it's your perogative, but to intentionally poke people with such absurd claims that Jesus never existed is just asinine.I've been down that debate many many times, and there is overwhelming evidence of the existance of Jesus the person. Whether or not He was divine is a matter of faith, but don't be a simpleton with such claims that He is a composite of other "heroes"
There actually is no evidence of Jesus as a person. Almost all "evidence" were fakes hundreds or even a thousand years later. There probably was a guy named jesus at some point, but not Jesus Christ. Nazareth didn't exist until the second century at the earliest, and yes, jesus shares many strikingly similar characteristics of pagan heroes/godmen that were worshiped thousands of years before the alleged existence of Jesus Christ.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa3.htm
There actually is no evidence of Jesus as a person. Almost all "evidence" were fakes hundreds or even a thousand years later. There probably was a guy named jesus at some point, but not Jesus Christ. Nazareth didn't exist until the second century at the earliest, and yes, jesus shares many strikingly similar characteristics of pagan heroes/godmen that were worshiped thousands of years before the alleged existence of Jesus Christ.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa3.htm
Oh, PB&J, you don't really believe this, do you?
You claimed before (I think) that you are an educated fellow and an educated fellow like yourself should be able to a. use Google and b. understand that the historical Jesus Christ and the theological Jesus Christ are two very different things.
It seems from your tone here (and elsewhere) that your real purpose is to argue against Christianity.
Which would make more sense than arguing about the historical accounts of Jesus because it's a pointless enterprise. There's very little we can KNOW for a FACT about the ancient world, and especially about the people who lived then.
And ultimately, what does it matter how much of the accounts of Jesus or other ancient figures are factually true? Enough people believed in Jesus Christ from the very beginning to talk and write about him incessantly. Obviously the life of Jesus had a huge impact on that time and on history.
So what's your point exactly?
It's silly to argue about the veracity of historical figures like Jesus because it's missing the forest for the trees.
I mean, would you argue that Socrates didn't exist? He was just a character in Plato's writings.
What about Aristotle? Do we have any historical accounts of Aristotle that change your opinion of his writings?
Back to the google thing. It's not hard to find people who know what they're talking about online if you want to actually learn something. Try this.
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There's a fine line? between disagreeing legitwise, and "blatantly stirring the pot" like dama said, to
provoke and insult other people.
Personally, I'm not an expert at telling the difference... is anybody?
Can we all? just try not to intentionally cross the line?
Maybe just discuss things ? Try to be real so it's worth the trouble to try to understand
where somebody is coming from?
Or not..... ? @@
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