You brahs aware the Bucs are gonna stomp that ass out on Sunday?
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Jake freaking Delhomme. And gave away Anderson, and Quinn. It's okay Browns fans, I feel for you. We USED to make crappy moves all the time, misevaluate and never develop players, too. We let Steve Young go for a few bucks. We almost share a kindred spirit in that regard. I'm so glad we are turning the corner, and not stuck with Jake freaking Delhomme.
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Jake freaking Delhomme. And gave away Anderson, and Quinn. It's okay Browns fans, I feel for you. We USED to make crappy moves all the time, misevaluate and never develop players, too. We let Steve Young go for a few bucks. We almost share a kindred spirit in that regard. I'm so glad we are turning the corner, and not stuck with Jake freaking Delhomme.
Jake freaking Delhomme. And gave away Anderson, and Quinn. It's okay Browns fans, I feel for you. We USED to make crappy moves all the time, misevaluate and never develop players, too. We let Steve Young go for a few bucks. We almost share a kindred spirit in that regard. I'm so glad we are turning the corner, and not stuck with Jake freaking Delhomme.
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Nice attempt though buddy.
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My problem with Winslow is that he's never caught a TD pass late in the season. In 2007 he hauled in one in week #11, but in all other years he hasn't had one TD past Week #9. I figured things would change playing in a warmer climate, but the same trend remained last season.
Does he not train good enough?
Do defenses figure out his zig-zag, back-yard style patterns and shut his black ass down the final 8 weeks of every season?
Does his QB think he is just a dickhead by week #8 and stop throwing him the ball?
... Curl this.
I dunno. I'll check on that for you. Here's a stat you will love. K2 had 77 receptions last year. He had MORE than your TOP TWO receivers COMBINED. And his 5 TD's? Yup, you guessed it, just as many as your top-2 receivers. And you got rid of Brady Quinn, and Derrick Anderson for..............Jake freaking Delhomme!!!!
LMAO!!!!
I dunno. I'll check on that for you. Here's a stat you will love. K2 had 77 receptions last year. He had MORE than your TOP TWO receivers COMBINED. And his 5 TD's? Yup, you guessed it, just as many as your top-2 receivers. And you got rid of Brady Quinn, and Derrick Anderson for..............Jake freaking Delhomme!!!!
LMAO!!!!
The point is, Delhomme IS an upgrade from those two. No one is claiming he is the reincarnation of Otto Graham, but he is better than what we had. (and probably better than what you will have on the field)
The decision to bring him in and have him take over was made by Mr. Mike Holmgren, who knows a thing or two about QBs having coached Montana, Young, Favre, Hasselbeck etc.
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I dunno. I'll check on that for you. Here's a stat you will love. K2 had 77 receptions last year. He had MORE than your TOP TWO receivers COMBINED. And his 5 TD's? Yup, you guessed it, just as many as your top-2 receivers. And you got rid of Brady Quinn, and Derrick Anderson for..............Jake freaking Delhomme!!!!
LMAO!!!!
The point is, Delhomme IS an upgrade from those two. No one is claiming he is the reincarnation of Otto Graham, but he is better than what we had. (and probably better than what you will have on the field)
The decision to bring him in and have him take over was made by Mr. Mike Holmgren, who knows a thing or two about QBs having coached Montana, Young, Favre, Hasselbeck etc.
The point is, Delhomme IS an upgrade from those two. No one is claiming he is the reincarnation of Otto Graham, but he is better than what we had. (and probably better than what you will have on the field)
The decision to bring him in and have him take over was made by Mr. Mike Holmgren, who knows a thing or two about QBs having coached Montana, Young, Favre, Hasselbeck etc
.You hope he is, anyway. Honestly, the only way Delhomme beat us the last few years was by handing the ball off. If CLE can run the ball at will you will win. If Jake starts flinging the ball around, it's over. Just look up his regular season stats from last few years. (pre-season means nothing)
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If you think Delhomme is an upgrade over Anderson and Quinn................maybe it's just something in the water in CLE. I had a girlfriend from CLE once and she was definetly not "right".
If you think Delhomme is an upgrade over Anderson and Quinn................maybe it's just something in the water in CLE. I had a girlfriend from CLE once and she was definetly not "right".
Look, this shows that you clearly have no clue about the Browns QB situation last year. It was disastrous. The Browns couldn't move the ball.
Yes, Delhomme IS an upgrade over Anderson and Quinn....and you probably won't find a single Browns fan, Browns player, Browns front office person, or NFL front office person that wouldn't agree with that.
Again, no one is saying Delhomme is Brady or Manning...but IS better than what we had.
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Jake freaking Delhomme. And gave away Anderson, and Quinn. It's okay Browns fans, I feel for you. We USED to make crappy moves all the time, misevaluate and never develop players, too. We let Steve Young go for a few bucks. We almost share a kindred spirit in that regard. I'm so glad we are turning the corner, and not stuck with Jake freaking Delhomme.
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Nice attempt though buddy.
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Nice attempt though buddy.
Best part is, he's right.
(and probably better than what you will have on the field).
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I dunno. I'll check on that for you. Here's a stat you will love. K2 had 77 receptions last year. He had MORE than your TOP TWO receivers COMBINED. And his 5 TD's? Yup, you guessed it, just as many as your top-2 receivers. And you got rid of Brady Quinn, and Derrick Anderson for..............Jake freaking Delhomme!!!!
LMAO!!!!
The point is, Delhomme IS an upgrade from those two. No one is claiming he is the reincarnation of Otto Graham, but he is better than what we had. (and probably better than what you will have on the field)
The decision to bring him in and have him take over was made by Mr. Mike Holmgren, who knows a thing or two about QBs having coached Montana, Young, Favre, Hasselbeck etc.
The decision to bring him in and have him take over was made by Mr. Mike Holmgren.
Is that the same Holmgren that has 12 LB's and 3 CB's on the roster? LOL.
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If you think Delhomme is an upgrade over Anderson and Quinn................maybe it's just something in the water in CLE. I had a girlfriend from CLE once and she was definetly not "right".
Look, this shows that you clearly have no clue about the Browns QB situation last year. It was disastrous. The Browns couldn't move the ball.
Yes, Delhomme IS an upgrade over Anderson and Quinn....and you probably won't find a single Browns fan, Browns player, Browns front office person, or NFL front office person that wouldn't agree with that.
Again, no one is saying Delhomme is Brady or Manning...but IS better than what we had.
Look, this shows that you clearly have no clue about the Browns QB situation last year. It was disastrous. The Browns couldn't move the ball.
Yes, Delhomme IS an upgrade over Anderson and Quinn....and you probably won't find a single Browns fan, Browns player, Browns front office person, or NFL front office person that wouldn't agree with that.
Again, no one is saying Delhomme is Brady or Manning...but IS better than what we had
.I don't doubt that you believe that. I can relate. Like I said, we all thought Steve Young was a bust in TB. In retrospect, it is just difficult to evaluate a player on a team that totally sucks. Maybe Anderson or Quinn would have been better if they had a real target to throw to? WR's who get open are great to have. You didn't. Ever think of THAT?
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The point is, Delhomme IS an upgrade from those two. No one is claiming he is the reincarnation of Otto Graham, but he is better than what we had. (and probably better than what you will have on the field)
The decision to bring him in and have him take over was made by Mr. Mike Holmgren, who knows a thing or two about QBs having coached Montana, Young, Favre, Hasselbeck etc
.You hope he is, anyway. Honestly, the only way Delhomme beat us the last few years was by handing the ball off. If CLE can run the ball at will you will win. If Jake starts flinging the ball around, it's over. Just look up his regular season stats from last few years. (pre-season means nothing)
You hope he is, anyway. Honestly, the only way Delhomme beat us the last few years was by handing the ball off. If CLE can run the ball at will you will win. If Jake starts flinging the ball around, it's over. Just look up his regular season stats from last few years. (pre-season means nothing)
What we can tell from preseason is that Jake had confidence in throwing the ball and in leading the offense. Last year neither of the guys we had could do either.
If Jake starts flinging the ball around, one of 3 things will happen: he will complete his passes (he was at like 80% in preseason...but yea, that's preseason), the ball will be off target and incomplete, or it will be intercepted. If he throws too many Ints. then he will be pulled and Seneca Wallace will be inserted. So, nothing will be "over", just revised.
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Look, this shows that you clearly have no clue about the Browns QB situation last year. It was disastrous. The Browns couldn't move the ball.
Yes, Delhomme IS an upgrade over Anderson and Quinn....and you probably won't find a single Browns fan, Browns player, Browns front office person, or NFL front office person that wouldn't agree with that.
Again, no one is saying Delhomme is Brady or Manning...but IS better than what we had
.I don't doubt that you believe that. I can relate. Like I said, we all thought Steve Young was a bust in TB. In retrospect, it is just difficult to evaluate a player on a team that totally sucks. Maybe Anderson or Quinn would have been better if they had a real target to throw to? WR's who get open are great to have. You didn't. Ever think of THAT?
I don't doubt that you believe that. I can relate. Like I said, we all thought Steve Young was a bust in TB. In retrospect, it is just difficult to evaluate a player on a team that totally sucks. Maybe Anderson or Quinn would have been better if they had a real target to throw to? WR's who get open are great to have. You didn't. Ever think of THAT?
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The decision to bring him in and have him take over was made by Mr. Mike Holmgren.
Is that the same Holmgren that has 12 LB's and 3 CB's on the roster? LOL.
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It's 11 and 4...Ketchup baby tomato.
Oh, that's right. You cut a 2009 2nd round LB(ouch) and picked up one of our scrub CB's that couldn't make it on our team. Thanks for reminding me.
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Look, this shows that you clearly have no clue about the Browns QB situation last year. It was disastrous. The Browns couldn't move the ball.
Yes, Delhomme IS an upgrade over Anderson and Quinn....and you probably won't find a single Browns fan, Browns player, Browns front office person, or NFL front office person that wouldn't agree with that.
Again, no one is saying Delhomme is Brady or Manning...but IS better than what we had
.I don't doubt that you believe that. I can relate. Like I said, we all thought Steve Young was a bust in TB. In retrospect, it is just difficult to evaluate a player on a team that totally sucks. Maybe Anderson or Quinn would have been better if they had a real target to throw to? WR's who get open are great to have. You didn't. Ever think of THAT?
I don't doubt that you believe that. I can relate. Like I said, we all thought Steve Young was a bust in TB. In retrospect, it is just difficult to evaluate a player on a team that totally sucks. Maybe Anderson or Quinn would have been better if they had a real target to throw to? WR's who get open are great to have. You didn't. Ever think of THAT?
Of course I f**cking believe it. I wouldn't have said it if I didn't believe it. Moreover, Mike Holmgren, Tom Heckert and Eric Mangini believe it.
And of course I f**cking thought about the receiver issue. Here was the problem with Quinn and Anderson: despite the untested nature of the receivers they were throwing to, they still could not get the ball to them when they were open. Having better receivers would have only exacerbated the problem of their ineptitude.
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Ohh damn, did I strike a nerve? LOL. I understand your frustration. After all I'm a Bucs fan. But, you still have crappy WR's THIS year.
Didn't Massoquoi lead the NFL in drops? Nothing deflates a QB's confidence like a young WR who never gets open, and when he does, he drops the ball.
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grossi commented on TCD a couple of weeks back about receivers getting open last year but the reality was that there was nobody who could get them the ball. i thought that anderson did alright getting the ball to massaquoi though.
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c-dawg said:
Hey tool.You started this with your 45-0 prediction, idiot.
By the way, did your bicep get that big wacking off?
45-0 was to counter you guys' stupid 70-7 predictions I saw.
In all honesty, I'm expecting something much more realistic... like 68-2 in favor of the Bucs.
I really liked the wacking off line. That was incredibly witty. A real sharp sense of humor you have there.
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It's 11 and 4...Ketchup baby tomato.
Oh, that's right. You cut a 2009 2nd round LB(ouch) and picked up one of our scrub CB's that couldn't make it on our team. Thanks for reminding me.
Oh, that's right. You cut a 2009 2nd round LB(ouch) and picked up one of our scrub CB's that couldn't make it on our team. Thanks for reminding me.
Did he come from the Bucs? I didn't even know that. Nevertheless, don't know what you are complaining about. It evened out that CB/LB ratio you were bitching about.
As for Veikune being a bad pick, yea, OK, obviously. The guy that chose him (Kokinis) is no longer here and was apparently impressed merely by the fact that he went to USC. Better to cut the losses than to live with the mistakes I suppose..
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Cutting the losses is the key to building a good team. One year with a bad draft pick on the roster is one year of wasted development of a young player. GM's are always alot quicker to cut loose of someone else's mistakes than their own, unfortunately.
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Ohh damn, did I strike a nerve? LOL. I understand your frustration. After all I'm a Bucs fan. But, you still have crappy WR's THIS year.
Didn't Massoquoi lead the NFL in drops? Nothing deflates a QB's confidence like a young WR who never gets open, and when he does, he drops the ball.
Ohh damn, did I strike a nerve? LOL. I understand your frustration. After all I'm a Bucs fan. But, you still have crappy WR's THIS year.
Didn't Massoquoi lead the NFL in drops? Nothing deflates a QB's confidence like a young WR who never gets open, and when he does, he drops the ball.
No, no, no. That was the guy they got rid of: Braylon Edwards. It just goes to show you how much this team thought of Edwards that they were willing to ditch his stones of hands and leave the receiving corps in the hands of rookies like MoMass and Robo.
No, you really do have it all bassackwards. It was the confidence of the young WRs that the QBs could not hit when they were open. They are both seemingly doing quite well with Jake throwing to them.
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