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  • Nothing more than pseudo-legitimized hired thugs.

    From their website; what a xxxxing joke. Who do these criminals think they're kidding?

    Blackwater Worldwide efficiently and effectively integrates a wide range of resources and core competencies to provide unique and timely solutions that exceed our customers’ stated needs and expectations.

    We are guided by integrity, innovation, and a desire for a safer world. Blackwater Worldwide professionals leverage state-of-the-art training facilities, professional program management teams, and innovative manufacturing and production capabilities to deliver world-class, customer-driven solutions.

    Our corporate leadership and dedicated family of exceptional employees adhere to essential core values- chief among these are integrity, innovation,excellence, respect, accountability, and teamwork.

    And the tagline to beat all taglines:

    America's Veterans Serving America...Again!

    What an embarrassment.

    mz. said:

    Nothing more than pseudo-legitimized hired thugs.

    From their website; what a xxxxing joke. Who do these criminals think they're kidding?

    And the tagline to beat all taglines:

    What an embarrassment.

    Nice to see you posting here, mz the pussy, but I have one suggestion:

    Take a look at your company's website, annual statement, etc. and read Vision and Mission statements. Lots of fluff, etc. Maybe even from PR or Advertising consultants <G>.

  • Yes, but my company doesn't murder innocent people under the guise of "protection."

    Mission statements are stupid. And my company doesn't put our stupid mission statement on our front page. We're too intelligent for that. We let our work speak for itself; something Blackwater is clearly looking to conceal with a stupid mission statement.

  • Yes, but my company doesn't murder innocent people under the guise of "protection."

    Mission statements are stupid. And my company doesn't put our stupid mission statement on our front page. We're too intelligent for that. We let our work speak for itself; something Blackwater is clearly looking to conceal with a stupid mission statement.

    mz. said:

    Yes, but my company doesn't murder innocent people under the guise of "protection."

    Mission statements are stupid. And my company doesn't put our stupid mission statement on our front page. We're too intelligent for that. We let our work speak for itself; something Blackwater is clearly looking to conceal with a stupid mission statement.

    Moral dilemma for you, mz the pussy. What do you do?

    Your Sr. VP (or comparable person in your organization) walks up to you and says, "Hey Mike, we just landed a huge account!!! I noticed on your resume you graduated from Syracuse University so you should know a lot about this company. It is Backwater............I mean, Blackwater".

    We really need this account and it may very well use this to open doors to other government-type business.

    I'd like you to take the lead on developing a program for them. Use all media tools. I have a lot of confidence in your ability to make this a winner for us".

  • No moral dilemma for me at all, John. If I was assigned to the Blackwater client, or Philip Morris or any other assignment I object to morally, I ask to be reassigned or quit if that reassignment was not granted. I'm confident enough in my abilities to find employment elsewhere, but luckily enough I work for an organization with morals as well, so as long as I'm employed here I won't have to worry about compromising my morals.

    'Cuse 13/16 in the polls this week. You almost lost to Buffalo. I think you see me coming...

  • No moral dilemma for me at all, John. If I was assigned to the Blackwater client, or Philip Morris or any other assignment I object to morally, I ask to be reassigned or quit if that reassignment was not granted. I'm confident enough in my abilities to find employment elsewhere, but luckily enough I work for an organization with morals as well, so as long as I'm employed here I won't have to worry about compromising my morals.

    'Cuse 13/16 in the polls this week. You almost lost to Buffalo. I think you see me coming...

    mz. said:

    No moral dilemma for me at all, John. If I was assigned to the Blackwater client, or Philip Morris or any other assignment I object to morally, I ask to be reassigned or quit if that reassignment was not granted. I'm confident enough in my abilities to find employment elsewhere, but luckily enough I work for an organization with morals as well, so as long as I'm employed here I won't have to worry about compromising my morals.

    Wow, Mike. If true, I have a ton and a half of respect for you mz the pussy.

    Truth be told, I wouldn't have the nerve to do that and would comply. I might - might - accept the challenge and start to look elsewhere but somebody in the 5th decade might be less confident - especially in this job market.

    UCONN vs. Buffalo in the HUGE International Bowl. Maybe SU's next football coach will come from that game. BTW, Edsall isn't going anywhere. He has too much work building an offense here.

  • mz. said:

    No moral dilemma for me at all, John. If I was assigned to the Blackwater client, or Philip Morris or any other assignment I object to morally, I ask to be reassigned or quit if that reassignment was not granted. I'm confident enough in my abilities to find employment elsewhere, but luckily enough I work for an organization with morals as well, so as long as I'm employed here I won't have to worry about compromising my morals.

    Wow, Mike. If true, I have a ton and a half of respect for you mz the pussy.

    Truth be told, I wouldn't have the nerve to do that and would comply. I might - might - accept the challenge and start to look elsewhere but somebody in the 5th decade might be less confident - especially in this job market.

    UCONN vs. Buffalo in the HUGE International Bowl. Maybe SU's next football coach will come from that game. BTW, Edsall isn't going anywhere. He has too much work building an offense here.

    @chicopee-john said:

    Wow, Mike. If true, I have a ton and a half of respect for you mz the pussy.

    It's 100% true and I do appreciate you saying that, John. But I do hope it doesn't come to that!!

    @chicopee-john said:

    UCONN vs. Buffalo in the HUGE International Bowl. Maybe SU's next football coach will come from that game. BTW, Edsall isn't going anywhere. He has too much work building an offense here.

    I was actually trying to divert the convo towards basketball (😉), but what I am hearing is that Skip Holtz's hiring is imminent at SU...though I prefer Gill myself.

  • I guess I have two thoughts on the matter.

    First I don't necessarily trust the NYT to report imparially and second I'd assume that only the US prosecutes and punishes people in her service who step over the line.

    WSS

  • I guess I have two thoughts on the matter.

    First I don't necessarily trust the NYT to report imparially and second I'd assume that only the US prosecutes and punishes people in her service who step over the line.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    First I don't necessarily trust the NYT to report imparially

    It was a news story, Steve, not an opinion piece or editorial. Did the NYT make up the fact that they were indicted or something?

    @westside-steve said:

    second I'd assume that only the US prosecutes and punishes people in her service who step over the line.

    First, these clowns aren't US soldiers, they are hired goons/mercenaries.

    Second, we hold ourselves to a higher standard. Who cares what other countries do.

  • @westside-steve said:

    First I don't necessarily trust the NYT to report imparially

    It was a news story, Steve, not an opinion piece or editorial. Did the NYT make up the fact that they were indicted or something?

    @westside-steve said:

    second I'd assume that only the US prosecutes and punishes people in her service who step over the line.

    First, these clowns aren't US soldiers, they are hired goons/mercenaries.

    Second, we hold ourselves to a higher standard. Who cares what other countries do.

    mz. said:

    It was a news story, Steve, not an opinion piece or editorial. Did the NYT make up the fact that they were indicted or something?

    I never said that.

    A story (as any ad man knows) can be told in various ways without ever abandoning all truth.

    First, these clowns [] are hired goons/mercenaries.

    Yes they are.

    Nevertheless they are "in the service" of the United States.

    I conside Irqanian "freedpm fighters" in Iraq to be in the service of the enemy.

    Second, we hold ourselves to a higher standard.

    We do indeed. Hence the prosecution.

    Ya think we're applauded for that?

    Who cares what other countries do.

    I do. Why? Because the US is is pilloried on a regular basis for every slight real or imagined by thge real scumbags of the world and their propaganda network here and abroad.

    There's no moral equivalent.

    WSS

  • mz. said:

    It was a news story, Steve, not an opinion piece or editorial. Did the NYT make up the fact that they were indicted or something?

    I never said that.

    A story (as any ad man knows) can be told in various ways without ever abandoning all truth.

    First, these clowns [] are hired goons/mercenaries.

    Yes they are.

    Nevertheless they are "in the service" of the United States.

    I conside Irqanian "freedpm fighters" in Iraq to be in the service of the enemy.

    Second, we hold ourselves to a higher standard.

    We do indeed. Hence the prosecution.

    Ya think we're applauded for that?

    Who cares what other countries do.

    I do. Why? Because the US is is pilloried on a regular basis for every slight real or imagined by thge real scumbags of the world and their propaganda network here and abroad.

    There's no moral equivalent.

    WSS

    As for the NYT, I understand you not liking their politics, etc., but this was just a reporting-the-facts type of thing. Nothing to really distort...

    @westside-steve said:

    Why? Because the US is is pilloried on a regular basis for every slight real or imagined by thge real scumbags of the world and their propaganda network here and abroad.

    I do hear what you're saying. Like it or not, we're the World's bellwether, so our role is to act as we would like the rest of the world to act. Whether or not they "comply" is up to them.

  • Black Water is ran by a bunch of psycho killers!

    Blackwater Killing for FUN!

  • First of all, it is cherry picked bad news about what's happening over there.

    It IS a disgrace, and they will pay the price.

    But never posting the good that happens over there is partisan manipulation and purely negative sniping.

    All of the employees of Blackwater didn't do it anyways.

    it was some corrupt individuals committing serious crimes.

    I thought this negative sensationalism is why you left...

    We're trying to make it a different board now.

  • First of all, it is cherry picked bad news about what's happening over there.

    It IS a disgrace, and they will pay the price.

    But never posting the good that happens over there is partisan manipulation and purely negative sniping.

    All of the employees of Blackwater didn't do it anyways.

    it was some corrupt individuals committing serious crimes.

    I thought this negative sensationalism is why you left...

    We're trying to make it a different board now.

    @calfoxwc said:

    First of all, it is cherry picked bad news about what's happening over there.

    I'm sure an unchecked, private mercenary group is doing lots of good over there.

    @calfoxwc said:

    We're trying to make it a different board now.

    ...

  • Bunker that is what the CIA is for!

    The thing with Black Water and why the Left hate the ideal is that they dont have to comply to what the UN wants and demands.

    Yes there are some psychos that were hired there but it is WAR and you need some crazies on the point.

  • Bunker that is what the CIA is for!

    The thing with Black Water and why the Left hate the ideal is that they dont have to comply to what the UN wants and demands.

    Yes there are some psychos that were hired there but it is WAR and you need some crazies on the point.

    @mr.-t said:

    The thing with Black Water and why the Left hate the ideal is that they dont have to comply to what the UN wants and demands.

    That's the most ridiculous take on foreign policy I've ever read.

    Good luck with the Board, John.

  • @mr.-t said:

    The thing with Black Water and why the Left hate the ideal is that they dont have to comply to what the UN wants and demands.

    That's the most ridiculous take on foreign policy I've ever read.

    Good luck with the Board, John.

    mz. said:

    That's the most ridiculous take on foreign policy I've ever read.

    Good luck with the Board, John.

    Actually there is a grain of truth in that for better or worse.

    The entire Iraq problerm is the stepchild of the UN.

    Hell, just the Desert Storm invasion as a UN plan but we get the world hatred because there isn't a chance in hell it gets done without us.

    As long as the UN arbitrarily defines international boundaries and uses the US as an enforcer what does anyone expect?

    WSS

  • @mr.-t said:

    The thing with Black Water and why the Left hate the ideal is that they dont have to comply to what the UN wants and demands.

    That's the most ridiculous take on foreign policy I've ever read.

    Good luck with the Board, John.

    mz. said:

    That's the most ridiculous take on foreign policy I've ever read.

    with BlackWater we can say Mission Acomplished!

  • Blackwater has many fine upstanding veterans working for it. I trust these men over and above what some liberal slime ball wants to portray as "scum" or "mega scum". These men have balls, something the OP has none. Nuff said.

  • Says the cowardly "war hero" who doesn't have the balls to show his face after his resignation and has to come back with a nom de plume. Now THAT'S ballsy, Jeffro.

  • mz the pussy, I told you that you were starting trouble before you left.

    Now, here you are again, with the grating personal insults, of which you know nothing about.

    Help make this board a BETTER place, don't be a major part of the problem you complained about.