Blackwater
-
No moral dilemma for me at all, John. If I was assigned to the Blackwater client, or Philip Morris or any other assignment I object to morally, I ask to be reassigned or quit if that reassignment was not granted. I'm confident enough in my abilities to find employment elsewhere, but luckily enough I work for an organization with morals as well, so as long as I'm employed here I won't have to worry about compromising my morals.
'Cuse 13/16 in the polls this week. You almost lost to Buffalo. I think you see me coming...
mz. said:
No moral dilemma for me at all, John. If I was assigned to the Blackwater client, or Philip Morris or any other assignment I object to morally, I ask to be reassigned or quit if that reassignment was not granted. I'm confident enough in my abilities to find employment elsewhere, but luckily enough I work for an organization with morals as well, so as long as I'm employed here I won't have to worry about compromising my morals.Wow, Mike. If true, I have a ton and a half of respect for you mz the pussy.
Truth be told, I wouldn't have the nerve to do that and would comply. I might - might - accept the challenge and start to look elsewhere but somebody in the 5th decade might be less confident - especially in this job market.
UCONN vs. Buffalo in the HUGE International Bowl. Maybe SU's next football coach will come from that game. BTW, Edsall isn't going anywhere. He has too much work building an offense here.
-
mz. said:
No moral dilemma for me at all, John. If I was assigned to the Blackwater client, or Philip Morris or any other assignment I object to morally, I ask to be reassigned or quit if that reassignment was not granted. I'm confident enough in my abilities to find employment elsewhere, but luckily enough I work for an organization with morals as well, so as long as I'm employed here I won't have to worry about compromising my morals.Wow, Mike. If true, I have a ton and a half of respect for you mz the pussy.
Truth be told, I wouldn't have the nerve to do that and would comply. I might - might - accept the challenge and start to look elsewhere but somebody in the 5th decade might be less confident - especially in this job market.
UCONN vs. Buffalo in the HUGE International Bowl. Maybe SU's next football coach will come from that game. BTW, Edsall isn't going anywhere. He has too much work building an offense here.
Wow, Mike. If true, I have a ton and a half of respect for you mz the pussy.
It's 100% true and I do appreciate you saying that, John. But I do hope it doesn't come to that!!
UCONN vs. Buffalo in the HUGE International Bowl. Maybe SU's next football coach will come from that game. BTW, Edsall isn't going anywhere. He has too much work building an offense here.
I was actually trying to divert the convo towards basketball (
), but what I am hearing is that Skip Holtz's hiring is imminent at SU...though I prefer Gill myself. -
I guess I have two thoughts on the matter.
First I don't necessarily trust the NYT to report imparially and second I'd assume that only the US prosecutes and punishes people in her service who step over the line.
WSS
-
I guess I have two thoughts on the matter.
First I don't necessarily trust the NYT to report imparially and second I'd assume that only the US prosecutes and punishes people in her service who step over the line.
WSS
First I don't necessarily trust the NYT to report imparially
It was a news story, Steve, not an opinion piece or editorial. Did the NYT make up the fact that they were indicted or something?
second I'd assume that only the US prosecutes and punishes people in her service who step over the line.
First, these clowns aren't US soldiers, they are hired goons/mercenaries.
Second, we hold ourselves to a higher standard. Who cares what other countries do.
-
First I don't necessarily trust the NYT to report imparially
It was a news story, Steve, not an opinion piece or editorial. Did the NYT make up the fact that they were indicted or something?
second I'd assume that only the US prosecutes and punishes people in her service who step over the line.
First, these clowns aren't US soldiers, they are hired goons/mercenaries.
Second, we hold ourselves to a higher standard. Who cares what other countries do.
mz. said:
It was a news story, Steve, not an opinion piece or editorial. Did the NYT make up the fact that they were indicted or something?I never said that.
A story (as any ad man knows) can be told in various ways without ever abandoning all truth.
First, these clowns [] are hired goons/mercenaries.
Yes they are.
Nevertheless they are "in the service" of the United States.
I conside Irqanian "freedpm fighters" in Iraq to be in the service of the enemy.
Second, we hold ourselves to a higher standard.
We do indeed. Hence the prosecution.
Ya think we're applauded for that?
Who cares what other countries do.
I do. Why? Because the US is is pilloried on a regular basis for every slight real or imagined by thge real scumbags of the world and their propaganda network here and abroad.
There's no moral equivalent.
WSS
-
mz. said:
It was a news story, Steve, not an opinion piece or editorial. Did the NYT make up the fact that they were indicted or something?I never said that.
A story (as any ad man knows) can be told in various ways without ever abandoning all truth.
First, these clowns [] are hired goons/mercenaries.
Yes they are.
Nevertheless they are "in the service" of the United States.
I conside Irqanian "freedpm fighters" in Iraq to be in the service of the enemy.
Second, we hold ourselves to a higher standard.
We do indeed. Hence the prosecution.
Ya think we're applauded for that?
Who cares what other countries do.
I do. Why? Because the US is is pilloried on a regular basis for every slight real or imagined by thge real scumbags of the world and their propaganda network here and abroad.
There's no moral equivalent.
WSS
As for the NYT, I understand you not liking their politics, etc., but this was just a reporting-the-facts type of thing. Nothing to really distort...
Why? Because the US is is pilloried on a regular basis for every slight real or imagined by thge real scumbags of the world and their propaganda network here and abroad.
I do hear what you're saying. Like it or not, we're the World's bellwether, so our role is to act as we would like the rest of the world to act. Whether or not they "comply" is up to them.
-
Black Water is ran by a bunch of psycho killers!
Blackwater Killing for FUN!
-
First of all, it is cherry picked bad news about what's happening over there.
It IS a disgrace, and they will pay the price.
But never posting the good that happens over there is partisan manipulation and purely negative sniping.
All of the employees of Blackwater didn't do it anyways.
it was some corrupt individuals committing serious crimes.
I thought this negative sensationalism is why you left...
We're trying to make it a different board now.
-
First of all, it is cherry picked bad news about what's happening over there.
It IS a disgrace, and they will pay the price.
But never posting the good that happens over there is partisan manipulation and purely negative sniping.
All of the employees of Blackwater didn't do it anyways.
it was some corrupt individuals committing serious crimes.
I thought this negative sensationalism is why you left...
We're trying to make it a different board now.
-
Bunker that is what the CIA is for!
The thing with Black Water and why the Left hate the ideal is that they dont have to comply to what the UN wants and demands.
Yes there are some psychos that were hired there but it is WAR and you need some crazies on the point.
-
Bunker that is what the CIA is for!
The thing with Black Water and why the Left hate the ideal is that they dont have to comply to what the UN wants and demands.
Yes there are some psychos that were hired there but it is WAR and you need some crazies on the point.
-
mz. said:
That's the most ridiculous take on foreign policy I've ever read.Good luck with the Board, John.
Actually there is a grain of truth in that for better or worse.
The entire Iraq problerm is the stepchild of the UN.
Hell, just the Desert Storm invasion as a UN plan but we get the world hatred because there isn't a chance in hell it gets done without us.
As long as the UN arbitrarily defines international boundaries and uses the US as an enforcer what does anyone expect?
WSS
-
mz. said:
That's the most ridiculous take on foreign policy I've ever read.with BlackWater we can say Mission Acomplished!
-
Blackwater has many fine upstanding veterans working for it. I trust these men over and above what some liberal slime ball wants to portray as "scum" or "mega scum". These men have balls, something the OP has none. Nuff said.
-
mz the pussy, I told you that you were starting trouble before you left.
Now, here you are again, with the grating personal insults, of which you know nothing about.
Help make this board a BETTER place, don't be a major part of the problem you complained about.
-
We are working on having a better board. For all your rants about the board being bad,
it seems all you've accomplished here, is to screw it up more.
I'll just let John, Rick and Stan be the judge of who started the crap in the first place.
-
mz. said:
Ha. Nice holier-than-though attitude, cal. F--k off.Actually mz the pussy, he's serious.
Many of us are trying not to be asshoiles and the others, well, why boither with 'em?
WSS
-
Whatevs.
If you're interested in keeping score, you can point out to the powers that be that the thread took its ugly turn starting right here.
Thank you.
-
No, it actually started with your cherry picked negative post that started this thread.
Of all the great things our troops and civilian folks have accomplished over there,
you have never, to my awareness, posted anything positive.
Just a news story that is negative.
The few/several guys who did what they did, should really get slammed, bigtime.
But Blackwater has far more employees than that.
Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.
Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.
With your input, this post could be even better 💗
Register Login