Browns crack down on fans behaving badly
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Formerly Stone said:
I am in Hartford Ct. this week and watched the games with a life long friend who is a Browns fan who lives up here now.. We happened to watching the Browns game when the pick six happened and things came flying from the dawg pound. His words....not mine...... "Browns fans just don't get it, it's no wonder the rest of the football world thinks we're all a bunch of idiots!"Quite frankly my dear, we don't give a damn what the rest of the frakking football world thinks of us.
Haven't you figured that out yet?
We are as passionate and loyal and enthusiastic about our team as any fan base in the nation, but we have just had to deal with a crappy football team. If the team were winning that whole perception would be completely different, not that we would give a shit about it then either.
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Formerly Stone said:
This is an absolutely stupid post!And why is that Einstein??? So, we're not supposed to expect our team to be successful? Stick it up your ass Steelers fan! All you do is come on here and post nothing but inflammatory remarks anyway!! We get it, OK! You hate the Browns! You hate Browns fans! Guess what, we f**kin' hate the majority of your fanbase and your team as well!
But in case you still don't understand.... it's really quite simple, put a winning team on the field and you won't have some of the frustration and riff raff that goes on down there in the parking lots, and the stadium every Sunday!
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Formerly Stone said:
I am in Hartford Ct. this week and watched the games with a life long friend who is a Browns fan who lives up here now.. We happened to watching the Browns game when the pick six happened and things came flying from the dawg pound. His words....not mine...... "Browns fans just don't get it, it's no wonder the rest of the football world thinks we're all a bunch of idiots!"The Pick-6 didn't happen into the Dawgpound end-zone, it took place on the opposite side of the field. I sit at that end and I didn't see anything get thrown.
I did however see a beer get dumped on Kordell Stewarts head by a Steeler fan in Three-sewers back in the day.
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f it weren't for our fun Tailgate Parties, I would have probably dumped by PSL/Season Tickets by now. In fact, I'm strongly considering doing so toward the conclusion of this season. I won't stop going to game because it isn't family friendly enough, I'll stop going because the teams play bores the shit out of me. I see better executed football on Friday Nights. In eleven+ seasons now, I think that the game maybe matched the fun of the pre game party less than three times in the 103 past Home games and counting.
Some people don't bring their family to the game because of the rowdiness and profanity, but much more don't pay the over-inflated prices because the team sucks and their kids aren't interested because there are few icon players with this franchise. Instead of plunking down nearly $300 for a family of four to go watch the special teams play of Phil Dawson and josh Cribbs from the nose bleed seats, a better family time could be had attending a big high school football match-up and getting a pizza afterwards for about $60.
Just shut-up and win.
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Formerly Stone said:
It's pretty easy to see that you are one of the imbeciles who act like imbeciles on Sunday. Win or lose, you will always be a bitter little imbecile. If the Browns clean up their image at the same time they build a team you will sit back and bitch about it non-stop because being a good NFL fan is not important to you. The only thing you want is to be able to say "we won" This is also why you hate the Steelers because they not only win, but they are a classy organization in the process!Wow for someone you never met you certainly know a lot about me! You really are a f***n' tool!!!!!!!! But since you want to assume that you do know me, I'll play along! I most certainly do not act like an imbecile, or a belligerent idiot! What I am saying is I cannot blame the fans for being pissed off about seeing the same shit over and over again! Furthermore, I hate the f***n' Steelers because I am a Browns fan! I hate the f***n' Steelers because of their asshole fans with their know it all holier than thou f***n' attitude!!!! Class my ass! Good NFL fans??? RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT! I've seen time and again how your knuckle headed fans conduct themselves! Take a look in the mirror jerk off!
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my cousin got kicked out of a game last year for swearing at a steeler fan. i thought it was totally warranted.
A couple of years back when I went to a Browns-Steelers game, I wore a "Pittsburgh Still Sucks!" t-shirt. It was a November game, and unusally warm, so I had my jacket off and tied around my waist. At the gate, the usher told me that I either had to turn my shirt inside out, or put my jacket on to cover it. When I asked why, he said "well we don't want to offend any of the visiting fans!" I was like "F*** them, they are coming to our house! They most certainly wouldn't cater to our fans visiting their stadium!" So much for home field advantage I guess!!! What a joke! They were throwing people out that day for any shirts that had negative connotations about the opposing team! It's a big reason why I eventually did not renew my season tickets! Keep in mind, I used to DJ on the weekends, so I would get home at like 3-4AM, then have to get up early to go downtown. So I'm already tired, then I have to drop a small fortune for food and beer. I got sick of always being tired, hung over, and pissed off after a loss, which were plentiful. Plus adding the fact that if you do get up and cheer you have some asshole usher telling you to sit down (it's a football game moron, you're supposed to be standing most of the time!
) Furthermore, you cannot smoke in an open air stadium in which SMOKERS BUILT! Don't get me wrong, it was a tough decision, but it is much nicer being able to watch at home, spend $7-$8 on a 6 pack instead of that amount for one glass of beer, eat a lot cheaper, and not have to worry about getting tossed out, because some asshole rival fan gets all butt hurt about swearing at their team when they are in our own stadium! Unfortunately, if this team doesn't turn it around, I may not even be able to see them on tv when they're at home. You cannot expect the fans in a bad economy to continue to spend their hard earned money to watch this crap!A couple of years back when I went to a Browns-Steelers game, I wore a "Pittsburgh Still Sucks!" t-shirt. It was a November game, and unusally warm, so I had my jacket off and tied around my waist. At the gate, the usher told me that I either had to turn my shirt inside out, or put my jacket on to cover it. When I asked why, he said "well we don't want to offend any of the visiting fans!" I was like "F*** them, they are coming to our house! They most certainly wouldn't cater to our fans visiting their stadium!" So much for home field advantage I guess!!! What a joke! They were throwing people out that day for any shirts that had negative connotations about the opposing team! It's a big reason why I eventually did not renew my season tickets! Keep in mind, I used to DJ on the weekends, so I would get home at like 3-4AM, then have to get up early to go downtown. So I'm already tired, then I have to drop a small fortune for food and beer. I got sick of always being tired, hung over, and pissed off after a loss, which were plentiful. Plus adding the fact that if you do get up and cheer you have some asshole usher telling you to sit down (it's a football game moron, you're supposed to be standing most of the time!
) Furthermore, you cannot smoke in an open air stadium in which SMOKERS BUILT! Don't get me wrong, it was a tough decision, but it is much nicer being able to watch at home, spend $7-$8 on a 6 pack instead of that amount for one glass of beer, eat a lot cheaper, and not have to worry about getting tossed out, because some asshole rival fan gets all butt hurt about swearing at their team when they are in our own stadium! Unfortunately, if this team doesn't turn it around, I may not even be able to see them on tv when they're at home. You cannot expect the fans in a bad economy to continue to spend their hard earned money to watch this crap!I think they're going too far with this "Family Friendly" crap. This isn't tennis Mickey. I do happen to agree you have to draw a line somewhere, and swearing at opposing fans all game or getting so blasted you're falling down drunk and puking in the aisles is over the top.
Happen to agree the teams have encouraged fans getting liquored up before the game by the outrageous prices charged for beer and booze. Considering they're buying it wholesale, the markup has to be at least 1,000%- if not more. Bars seem to get by just fine with a 300% markup. With tip, I spent $30 for four Labatt's at the game- I can buy two CASES of Labatts for $38 at my friendly local carryout.
Call it a conspiracy, but I think this BS isn't just Holmgren's idea- blame the NFL on the corporate level for the crackdown- cutting the hours in the Muni Lot, and that Bills fan getting kicked out of his tailgate spot after 20 years aren't just a coincidence, IMHO.
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They want to take the passion out of the fans? That is a bad policy. They kick fans out for being rowdy? If they are able to prevent those fans from coming to the game, they will get 20,000 church-going fans who will yell everytime the offense does something good, and be quiet when the defense is on the field on 3rd and 10 when they need those rabid fans. This is Holmgren's idea?
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Formerly Stone said:
Most idiots don't care what other people think.........that's what makes them idiots!And you're fooling yourself if you think that it's just because of 40 years of losing; there are other teams who have been equally as bad as the Browns in the modern era of football and their fans don't act like the select few who have been "tolerated" by former Browns front offices................it' all part of the image.....accept it!
Well Stone, I went to a Browns game down in Charlotte- and if that's the NFL model- I want no part of it. Talk about wine & Cheese Yuppiedom, that would be it. The Browns are handling this in the wrong way- the "select few" who have been puking in their seats, or cursing at opposing fans all game need to be quietly escorted out, and told upon a repeat performance, they won't be welcome back in the future.
I've traveled to 6 (and counting) away stadiums to see the Browns play, and hate to break the news to you, there's a-hole fans everywhere. And frankly, I don't care what the National image of our fans is. There's a couple of us who post here who were at Bottlegate, and we would say to a man that the outpouring of trash from the stands was totally understandable, considering it was one of the worst calls in the history of the NFL.
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A couple of years back when I went to a Browns-Steelers game, I wore a "Pittsburgh Still Sucks!" t-shirt. It was a November game, and unusally warm, so I had my jacket off and tied around my waist. At the gate, the usher told me that I either had to turn my shirt inside out, or put my jacket on to cover it. When I asked why, he said "well we don't want to offend any of the visiting fans!" I was like "F*** them, they are coming to our house! They most certainly wouldn't cater to our fans visiting their stadium!" So much for home field advantage I guess!!! What a joke! They were throwing people out that day for any shirts that had negative connotations about the opposing team! It's a big reason why I eventually did not renew my season tickets! Keep in mind, I used to DJ on the weekends, so I would get home at like 3-4AM, then have to get up early to go downtown. So I'm already tired, then I have to drop a small fortune for food and beer. I got sick of always being tired, hung over, and pissed off after a loss, which were plentiful. Plus adding the fact that if you do get up and cheer you have some asshole usher telling you to sit down (it's a football game moron, you're supposed to be standing most of the time!
) Furthermore, you cannot smoke in an open air stadium in which SMOKERS BUILT! Don't get me wrong, it was a tough decision, but it is much nicer being able to watch at home, spend $7-$8 on a 6 pack instead of that amount for one glass of beer, eat a lot cheaper, and not have to worry about getting tossed out, because some asshole rival fan gets all butt hurt about swearing at their team when they are in our own stadium! Unfortunately, if this team doesn't turn it around, I may not even be able to see them on tv when they're at home. You cannot expect the fans in a bad economy to continue to spend their hard earned money to watch this crap!I think they're going too far with this "Family Friendly" crap. This isn't tennis Mickey. I do happen to agree you have to draw a line somewhere, and swearing at opposing fans all game or getting so blasted you're falling down drunk and puking in the aisles is over the top.
Happen to agree the teams have encouraged fans getting liquored up before the game by the outrageous prices charged for beer and booze. Considering they're buying it wholesale, the markup has to be at least 1,000%- if not more. Bars seem to get by just fine with a 300% markup. With tip, I spent $30 for four Labatt's at the game- I can buy two CASES of Labatts for $38 at my friendly local carryout.
Call it a conspiracy, but I think this BS isn't just Holmgren's idea- blame the NFL on the corporate level for the crackdown- cutting the hours in the Muni Lot, and that Bills fan getting kicked out of his tailgate spot after 20 years aren't just a coincidence, IMHO.
I think they're going too far with this "Family Friendly" crap. This isn't tennis Mickey. I do happen to agree you have to draw a line somewhere, and swearing at opposing fans all game or getting so blasted you're falling down drunk and puking in the aisles is over the top. Happen to agree the teams have encouraged fans getting liquored up before the game by the outrageous prices charged for beer and booze. Considering they're buying it wholesale, the markup has to be at least 1,000%- if not more. Bars seem to get by just fine with a 300% markup. With tip, I spent $30 for four Labatt's at the game- I can buy two CASES of Labatts for $38 at my friendly local carryout.
Call it a conspiracy, but I think this BS isn't just Holmgren's idea- blame the NFL on the corporate level for the crackdown- cutting the hours in the Muni Lot, and that Bills fan getting kicked out of his tailgate spot after 20 years aren't just a coincidence, IMHO.
Exactly!!! And that is what I was getting at, but Mr. Holier than thou Stoolers fan doesn't quite seem to understand what I was getting at! There has to be some middle ground here! But I stand by my stance that the organization needs to do more to put a winning team on the field, instead of the same shit year after year! I'll admit, right now I'm just fired up about this crap, because the first two teams were very beatable, and could have done a number as far as boosting this teams confidence, and morale! Now we're in the hole at 0-2, and have to play a Baltimore team that is extremely pissed off about losing to the Bengals! I'm afraid the Browns are going to get manhandled!!!
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Formerly Stone said:
Most idiots don't care what other people think.........that's what makes them idiots!And you're fooling yourself if you think that it's just because of 40 years of losing; there are other teams who have been equally as bad as the Browns in the modern era of football and their fans don't act like the select few who have been "tolerated" by former Browns front offices................it' all part of the image.....accept it!
Well Stone, I went to a Browns game down in Charlotte- and if that's the NFL model- I want no part of it. Talk about wine & Cheese Yuppiedom, that would be it. The Browns are handling this in the wrong way- the "select few" who have been puking in their seats, or cursing at opposing fans all game need to be quietly escorted out, and told upon a repeat performance, they won't be welcome back in the future.
I've traveled to 6 (and counting) away stadiums to see the Browns play, and hate to break the news to you, there's a-hole fans everywhere. And frankly, I don't care what the National image of our fans is. There's a couple of us who post here who were at Bottlegate, and we would say to a man that the outpouring of trash from the stands was totally understandable, considering it was one of the worst calls in the history of the NFL.
Well Stone, I went to a Browns game down in Charlotte- and if that's the NFL model- I want no part of it. Talk about wine & Cheese Yuppiedom, that would be it. The Browns are handling this in the wrong way- the "select few" who have been puking in their seats, or cursing at opposing fans all game need to be quietly escorted out, and told upon a repeat performance, they won't be welcome back in the future.
I've traveled to 6 (and counting) away stadiums to see the Browns play, and hate to break the news to you, there's a-hole fans everywhere. And frankly, I don't care what the National image of our fans is. There's a couple of us who post here who were at Bottlegate, and we would say to a man that the outpouring of trash from the stands was totally understandable, considering it was one of the worst calls in the history of the NFL.
Again Hoorta thank you for your logic in regards to the situation!
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stop going to the game. that will get the FO's attention. all these problems can be solved very easily: put a good product on the field and win some fxxking games.
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stop going to the game. that will get the FO's attention. all these problems can be solved very easily: put a good product on the field and win some fxxking games.
stop going to the game. that will get the FO's attention. all these problems can be solved very easily: put a good product on the field and win some fxxking games.
I tell my boss that all the time! He is a season ticket holder, and is one of the tailgaters pissed off about them changing the time that the muni lot opens! He said, since they're so bad, tailgating is the only thing fun about going! At some point though, when is it no longer fun? I didn't renew my tickets a few years back for reasons I've stated in a previous post, and you know what, more and more fans are going to do the same. We haven't had a black out since 1996, and those days based on where this team is going are not far behind! You cannot expect fans to keep paying to see this kind of shit!
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stop going to the game. that will get the FO's attention. all these problems can be solved very easily: put a good product on the field and win some fxxking games.
I tell my boss that all the time! He is a season ticket holder, and is one of the tailgaters pissed off about them changing the time that the muni lot opens! He said, since they're so bad, tailgating is the only thing fun about going! At some point though, when is it no longer fun? I didn't renew my tickets a few years back for reasons I've stated in a previous post, and you know what, more and more fans are going to do the same. We haven't had a black out since 1996, and those days based on where this team is going are not far behind! You cannot expect fans to keep paying to see this kind of shit!
I tell my boss that all the time! He is a season ticket holder, and is one of the tailgaters pissed off about them changing the time that the muni lot opens! He said, since they're so bad, tailgating is the only thing fun about going! At some point though, when is it no longer fun? I didn't renew my tickets a few years back for reasons I've stated in a previous post, and you know what, more and more fans are going to do the same. We haven't had a black out since 1996, and those days based on where this team is going are not far behind! You cannot expect fans to keep paying to see this kind of shit!
yeah if i was doing a tailgate i'd probably stay in the lot and listen to it on the radio. no security guard issues inside, no standing in line at the pisser and you're not paying those outrageous prices we all know about. with the FO's attitude towards the rowdy fans (not crazy, violent or vulgar) i'd rather invite a bunch of friends over and have the tailgate in my driveway.
i give this team all the support in the world from the east coast, just ain't spending my money on their lame product.
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I tell my boss that all the time! He is a season ticket holder, and is one of the tailgaters pissed off about them changing the time that the muni lot opens! He said, since they're so bad, tailgating is the only thing fun about going! At some point though, when is it no longer fun? I didn't renew my tickets a few years back for reasons I've stated in a previous post, and you know what, more and more fans are going to do the same. We haven't had a black out since 1996, and those days based on where this team is going are not far behind! You cannot expect fans to keep paying to see this kind of shit!
yeah if i was doing a tailgate i'd probably stay in the lot and listen to it on the radio. no security guard issues inside, no standing in line at the pisser and you're not paying those outrageous prices we all know about. with the FO's attitude towards the rowdy fans (not crazy, violent or vulgar) i'd rather invite a bunch of friends over and have the tailgate in my driveway.
i give this team all the support in the world from the east coast, just ain't spending my money on their lame product.
yeah if i was doing a tailgate i'd probably stay in the lot and listen to it on the radio. no security guard issues inside, no standing in line at the pisser and you're not paying those outrageous prices we all know about. with the FO's attitude towards the rowdy fans (not crazy, violent or vulgar) i'd rather invite a bunch of friends over and have the tailgate in my driveway.
i give this team all the support in the world from the east coast, just ain't spending my money on their lame product.
Yes sir, and that is exactly why I stay home now! It's much cheaper to drink, and eat at home. And I have the best seat in the house! My couch.
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I was up in section 363 yesterday with my brother (also the Legends club), and there were two deputies who just stood by the entrance and stared at everyone. I didn't see any trouble, but it seemed like the police/deputy presence was very high yesterday. I miss the old "real" dog pound from Municipal stadium. Loved pissing in the troughs and sinks. Loved kicking a Steeler fan down the stairs as his half breed ass was cussing out browns fans. Those days will never again happen I fear. The stadium has officially become "pussified". Also, $7.25 a beer is xxxxing outrageous.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
I was up in section 363 yesterday with my brother (also the Legends club), and there were two deputies who just stood by the entrance and stared at everyone. I didn't see any trouble, but it seemed like the police/deputy presence was very high yesterday. I miss the old "real" dog pound from Municipal stadium. Loved pissing in the troughs and sinks. Loved kicking a Steeler fan down the stairs as his half breed ass was cussing out browns fans. Those days will never again happen I fear. The stadium has officially become "pussified". Also, $7.25 a beer is xxxxing outrageous.
I was up in section 363 yesterday with my brother (also the Legends club), and there were two deputies who just stood by the entrance and stared at everyone. I didn't see any trouble, but it seemed like the police/deputy presence was very high yesterday. I miss the old "real" dog pound from Municipal stadium. Loved pissing in the troughs and sinks. Loved kicking a Steeler fan down the stairs as his half breed ass was cussing out browns fans. Those days will never again happen I fear. The stadium has officially become "pussified". Also, $7.25 a beer is xxxxing outrageous.
Watch out Diehard, you might get a lecture from a certain Steelers fan on how to conduct yourself as a fan!
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Formerly Stone said:
There was shower of "stuff" that was thrown at the guy when he ran in to the end zone. But it wasn't bad considering.....at least it wasn't rocks, batteries, or beer bottles................maybe you guys are cleaning up your act
I sat in the first level of the endzone that the play happened in and didn't see anything thrown, if something was I'm sure there would be a big story about it bashing Cleveland fans.
I seen 3 guys get thrown out though, all in separate incidents and they were all Chiefs fans.
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Formerly Stone said:
There was shower of "stuff" that was thrown at the guy when he ran in to the end zone. But it wasn't bad considering.....at least it wasn't rocks, batteries, or beer bottles................maybe you guys are cleaning up your actI sat in the first level of the endzone that the play happened in and didn't see anything thrown, if something was I'm sure there would be a big story about it bashing Cleveland fans.
I seen 3 guys get thrown out though, all in separate incidents and they were all Chiefs fans.
I sat in the first level of the endzone that the play happened in and didn't see anything thrown, if something was I'm sure there would be a big story about it bashing Cleveland fans.
I seen 3 guys get thrown out though, all in separate incidents and they were all Chiefs fans.
Wow imagine that! Another fan of another team acting inappropriately! Gee, I thought it was only Browns fans that acted like that?
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i guess nobody's ever seen a red sox / yankees game from yankee stadium (that's where battery throwing started) or the phil eagle crazies or the fans from the old meadowlands with the ice balls.......do you really think the browns fans are the worse behaving? get real.
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