Browns crack down on fans behaving badly
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They want to take the passion out of the fans? That is a bad policy. They kick fans out for being rowdy? If they are able to prevent those fans from coming to the game, they will get 20,000 church-going fans who will yell everytime the offense does something good, and be quiet when the defense is on the field on 3rd and 10 when they need those rabid fans. This is Holmgren's idea?
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Formerly Stone said:
Most idiots don't care what other people think.........that's what makes them idiots!And you're fooling yourself if you think that it's just because of 40 years of losing; there are other teams who have been equally as bad as the Browns in the modern era of football and their fans don't act like the select few who have been "tolerated" by former Browns front offices................it' all part of the image.....accept it!
Well Stone, I went to a Browns game down in Charlotte- and if that's the NFL model- I want no part of it. Talk about wine & Cheese Yuppiedom, that would be it. The Browns are handling this in the wrong way- the "select few" who have been puking in their seats, or cursing at opposing fans all game need to be quietly escorted out, and told upon a repeat performance, they won't be welcome back in the future.
I've traveled to 6 (and counting) away stadiums to see the Browns play, and hate to break the news to you, there's a-hole fans everywhere. And frankly, I don't care what the National image of our fans is. There's a couple of us who post here who were at Bottlegate, and we would say to a man that the outpouring of trash from the stands was totally understandable, considering it was one of the worst calls in the history of the NFL.
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A couple of years back when I went to a Browns-Steelers game, I wore a "Pittsburgh Still Sucks!" t-shirt. It was a November game, and unusally warm, so I had my jacket off and tied around my waist. At the gate, the usher told me that I either had to turn my shirt inside out, or put my jacket on to cover it. When I asked why, he said "well we don't want to offend any of the visiting fans!" I was like "F*** them, they are coming to our house! They most certainly wouldn't cater to our fans visiting their stadium!" So much for home field advantage I guess!!! What a joke! They were throwing people out that day for any shirts that had negative connotations about the opposing team! It's a big reason why I eventually did not renew my season tickets! Keep in mind, I used to DJ on the weekends, so I would get home at like 3-4AM, then have to get up early to go downtown. So I'm already tired, then I have to drop a small fortune for food and beer. I got sick of always being tired, hung over, and pissed off after a loss, which were plentiful. Plus adding the fact that if you do get up and cheer you have some asshole usher telling you to sit down (it's a football game moron, you're supposed to be standing most of the time!
) Furthermore, you cannot smoke in an open air stadium in which SMOKERS BUILT! Don't get me wrong, it was a tough decision, but it is much nicer being able to watch at home, spend $7-$8 on a 6 pack instead of that amount for one glass of beer, eat a lot cheaper, and not have to worry about getting tossed out, because some asshole rival fan gets all butt hurt about swearing at their team when they are in our own stadium! Unfortunately, if this team doesn't turn it around, I may not even be able to see them on tv when they're at home. You cannot expect the fans in a bad economy to continue to spend their hard earned money to watch this crap!I think they're going too far with this "Family Friendly" crap. This isn't tennis Mickey. I do happen to agree you have to draw a line somewhere, and swearing at opposing fans all game or getting so blasted you're falling down drunk and puking in the aisles is over the top.
Happen to agree the teams have encouraged fans getting liquored up before the game by the outrageous prices charged for beer and booze. Considering they're buying it wholesale, the markup has to be at least 1,000%- if not more. Bars seem to get by just fine with a 300% markup. With tip, I spent $30 for four Labatt's at the game- I can buy two CASES of Labatts for $38 at my friendly local carryout.
Call it a conspiracy, but I think this BS isn't just Holmgren's idea- blame the NFL on the corporate level for the crackdown- cutting the hours in the Muni Lot, and that Bills fan getting kicked out of his tailgate spot after 20 years aren't just a coincidence, IMHO.
I think they're going too far with this "Family Friendly" crap. This isn't tennis Mickey. I do happen to agree you have to draw a line somewhere, and swearing at opposing fans all game or getting so blasted you're falling down drunk and puking in the aisles is over the top. Happen to agree the teams have encouraged fans getting liquored up before the game by the outrageous prices charged for beer and booze. Considering they're buying it wholesale, the markup has to be at least 1,000%- if not more. Bars seem to get by just fine with a 300% markup. With tip, I spent $30 for four Labatt's at the game- I can buy two CASES of Labatts for $38 at my friendly local carryout.
Call it a conspiracy, but I think this BS isn't just Holmgren's idea- blame the NFL on the corporate level for the crackdown- cutting the hours in the Muni Lot, and that Bills fan getting kicked out of his tailgate spot after 20 years aren't just a coincidence, IMHO.
Exactly!!! And that is what I was getting at, but Mr. Holier than thou Stoolers fan doesn't quite seem to understand what I was getting at! There has to be some middle ground here! But I stand by my stance that the organization needs to do more to put a winning team on the field, instead of the same shit year after year! I'll admit, right now I'm just fired up about this crap, because the first two teams were very beatable, and could have done a number as far as boosting this teams confidence, and morale! Now we're in the hole at 0-2, and have to play a Baltimore team that is extremely pissed off about losing to the Bengals! I'm afraid the Browns are going to get manhandled!!!
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Formerly Stone said:
Most idiots don't care what other people think.........that's what makes them idiots!And you're fooling yourself if you think that it's just because of 40 years of losing; there are other teams who have been equally as bad as the Browns in the modern era of football and their fans don't act like the select few who have been "tolerated" by former Browns front offices................it' all part of the image.....accept it!
Well Stone, I went to a Browns game down in Charlotte- and if that's the NFL model- I want no part of it. Talk about wine & Cheese Yuppiedom, that would be it. The Browns are handling this in the wrong way- the "select few" who have been puking in their seats, or cursing at opposing fans all game need to be quietly escorted out, and told upon a repeat performance, they won't be welcome back in the future.
I've traveled to 6 (and counting) away stadiums to see the Browns play, and hate to break the news to you, there's a-hole fans everywhere. And frankly, I don't care what the National image of our fans is. There's a couple of us who post here who were at Bottlegate, and we would say to a man that the outpouring of trash from the stands was totally understandable, considering it was one of the worst calls in the history of the NFL.
Well Stone, I went to a Browns game down in Charlotte- and if that's the NFL model- I want no part of it. Talk about wine & Cheese Yuppiedom, that would be it. The Browns are handling this in the wrong way- the "select few" who have been puking in their seats, or cursing at opposing fans all game need to be quietly escorted out, and told upon a repeat performance, they won't be welcome back in the future.
I've traveled to 6 (and counting) away stadiums to see the Browns play, and hate to break the news to you, there's a-hole fans everywhere. And frankly, I don't care what the National image of our fans is. There's a couple of us who post here who were at Bottlegate, and we would say to a man that the outpouring of trash from the stands was totally understandable, considering it was one of the worst calls in the history of the NFL.
Again Hoorta thank you for your logic in regards to the situation!
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stop going to the game. that will get the FO's attention. all these problems can be solved very easily: put a good product on the field and win some fxxking games.
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stop going to the game. that will get the FO's attention. all these problems can be solved very easily: put a good product on the field and win some fxxking games.
stop going to the game. that will get the FO's attention. all these problems can be solved very easily: put a good product on the field and win some fxxking games.
I tell my boss that all the time! He is a season ticket holder, and is one of the tailgaters pissed off about them changing the time that the muni lot opens! He said, since they're so bad, tailgating is the only thing fun about going! At some point though, when is it no longer fun? I didn't renew my tickets a few years back for reasons I've stated in a previous post, and you know what, more and more fans are going to do the same. We haven't had a black out since 1996, and those days based on where this team is going are not far behind! You cannot expect fans to keep paying to see this kind of shit!
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stop going to the game. that will get the FO's attention. all these problems can be solved very easily: put a good product on the field and win some fxxking games.
I tell my boss that all the time! He is a season ticket holder, and is one of the tailgaters pissed off about them changing the time that the muni lot opens! He said, since they're so bad, tailgating is the only thing fun about going! At some point though, when is it no longer fun? I didn't renew my tickets a few years back for reasons I've stated in a previous post, and you know what, more and more fans are going to do the same. We haven't had a black out since 1996, and those days based on where this team is going are not far behind! You cannot expect fans to keep paying to see this kind of shit!
I tell my boss that all the time! He is a season ticket holder, and is one of the tailgaters pissed off about them changing the time that the muni lot opens! He said, since they're so bad, tailgating is the only thing fun about going! At some point though, when is it no longer fun? I didn't renew my tickets a few years back for reasons I've stated in a previous post, and you know what, more and more fans are going to do the same. We haven't had a black out since 1996, and those days based on where this team is going are not far behind! You cannot expect fans to keep paying to see this kind of shit!
yeah if i was doing a tailgate i'd probably stay in the lot and listen to it on the radio. no security guard issues inside, no standing in line at the pisser and you're not paying those outrageous prices we all know about. with the FO's attitude towards the rowdy fans (not crazy, violent or vulgar) i'd rather invite a bunch of friends over and have the tailgate in my driveway.
i give this team all the support in the world from the east coast, just ain't spending my money on their lame product.
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I tell my boss that all the time! He is a season ticket holder, and is one of the tailgaters pissed off about them changing the time that the muni lot opens! He said, since they're so bad, tailgating is the only thing fun about going! At some point though, when is it no longer fun? I didn't renew my tickets a few years back for reasons I've stated in a previous post, and you know what, more and more fans are going to do the same. We haven't had a black out since 1996, and those days based on where this team is going are not far behind! You cannot expect fans to keep paying to see this kind of shit!
yeah if i was doing a tailgate i'd probably stay in the lot and listen to it on the radio. no security guard issues inside, no standing in line at the pisser and you're not paying those outrageous prices we all know about. with the FO's attitude towards the rowdy fans (not crazy, violent or vulgar) i'd rather invite a bunch of friends over and have the tailgate in my driveway.
i give this team all the support in the world from the east coast, just ain't spending my money on their lame product.
yeah if i was doing a tailgate i'd probably stay in the lot and listen to it on the radio. no security guard issues inside, no standing in line at the pisser and you're not paying those outrageous prices we all know about. with the FO's attitude towards the rowdy fans (not crazy, violent or vulgar) i'd rather invite a bunch of friends over and have the tailgate in my driveway.
i give this team all the support in the world from the east coast, just ain't spending my money on their lame product.
Yes sir, and that is exactly why I stay home now! It's much cheaper to drink, and eat at home. And I have the best seat in the house! My couch.
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I was up in section 363 yesterday with my brother (also the Legends club), and there were two deputies who just stood by the entrance and stared at everyone. I didn't see any trouble, but it seemed like the police/deputy presence was very high yesterday. I miss the old "real" dog pound from Municipal stadium. Loved pissing in the troughs and sinks. Loved kicking a Steeler fan down the stairs as his half breed ass was cussing out browns fans. Those days will never again happen I fear. The stadium has officially become "pussified". Also, $7.25 a beer is xxxxing outrageous.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
I was up in section 363 yesterday with my brother (also the Legends club), and there were two deputies who just stood by the entrance and stared at everyone. I didn't see any trouble, but it seemed like the police/deputy presence was very high yesterday. I miss the old "real" dog pound from Municipal stadium. Loved pissing in the troughs and sinks. Loved kicking a Steeler fan down the stairs as his half breed ass was cussing out browns fans. Those days will never again happen I fear. The stadium has officially become "pussified". Also, $7.25 a beer is xxxxing outrageous.
I was up in section 363 yesterday with my brother (also the Legends club), and there were two deputies who just stood by the entrance and stared at everyone. I didn't see any trouble, but it seemed like the police/deputy presence was very high yesterday. I miss the old "real" dog pound from Municipal stadium. Loved pissing in the troughs and sinks. Loved kicking a Steeler fan down the stairs as his half breed ass was cussing out browns fans. Those days will never again happen I fear. The stadium has officially become "pussified". Also, $7.25 a beer is xxxxing outrageous.
Watch out Diehard, you might get a lecture from a certain Steelers fan on how to conduct yourself as a fan!
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Formerly Stone said:
There was shower of "stuff" that was thrown at the guy when he ran in to the end zone. But it wasn't bad considering.....at least it wasn't rocks, batteries, or beer bottles................maybe you guys are cleaning up your act
I sat in the first level of the endzone that the play happened in and didn't see anything thrown, if something was I'm sure there would be a big story about it bashing Cleveland fans.
I seen 3 guys get thrown out though, all in separate incidents and they were all Chiefs fans.
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Formerly Stone said:
There was shower of "stuff" that was thrown at the guy when he ran in to the end zone. But it wasn't bad considering.....at least it wasn't rocks, batteries, or beer bottles................maybe you guys are cleaning up your actI sat in the first level of the endzone that the play happened in and didn't see anything thrown, if something was I'm sure there would be a big story about it bashing Cleveland fans.
I seen 3 guys get thrown out though, all in separate incidents and they were all Chiefs fans.
I sat in the first level of the endzone that the play happened in and didn't see anything thrown, if something was I'm sure there would be a big story about it bashing Cleveland fans.
I seen 3 guys get thrown out though, all in separate incidents and they were all Chiefs fans.
Wow imagine that! Another fan of another team acting inappropriately! Gee, I thought it was only Browns fans that acted like that?
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i guess nobody's ever seen a red sox / yankees game from yankee stadium (that's where battery throwing started) or the phil eagle crazies or the fans from the old meadowlands with the ice balls.......do you really think the browns fans are the worse behaving? get real.
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the nfl is two faced in the fact that they discourage drinking in the stadium but yet when you watch a game on tv every other commercial is a beer ad. dont get me wrong you need to know your limits but dam its getting to the place you need to ask an usher or security if you can get up and cheer
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Formerly Stone said:
I see the connection! A Browns fan doesn't like what he sees when he goes anywhere else and anybody else who come to Browns stadium doesn't like what they see........hmmmmmmmmmmm
:lol: Right- I'm certain Steeler fans are SO much more civil @ Ketchup Field. Listen up pal- you read the rest of this thread? Chiefs fans were getting tossed. Last time I went to a Steelers game in Cleveland a Pittsburgh jerk made enough of an ass of himself to get the heave-ho. Couple of years back I was at a preseason Browns-Lions game- in Detroit- primo seating- field level, row 30, 30 yard line and I saw a LIONS fan get evicted for starting a fight with a Browns fan. I got heckled continuously by a drunk Bucs fan @ Raymond James because I was wearing my colors. Compared to what went down at Old Muni in the 80's & 90's the new stadium is already positively pussified- and Holmgren wants to tame it down even more.??? Yeah Stone- I go by what I see. So don't give me any holier than thou BS on this topic.
There's a line between wearing your colors to an opposing stadium- and being a jerk when you do. I got total respect in Arrowhead- OTOH let's go to the other extreme- the BOZO who wore a LeBron Heat jersey to an Indians game right after the traitor bailed out of Cleveland- sorry, if he had been on the field it would have been a 15 yard penalty for taunting.
PS saw a real cute T-shirt after the game, said- LEBRON MAY HAVE GONE SOUTH, BUT HIS MOM'S STILL RIDIN' WEST.
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Formerly Stone said:
I see the connection! A Browns fan doesn't like what he sees when he goes anywhere else and anybody else who come to Browns stadium doesn't like what they see........hmmmmmmmmmmm :lol: Right- I'm certain Steeler fans are SO much more civil @ Ketchup Field. Listen up pal- you read the rest of this thread? Chiefs fans were getting tossed. Last time I went to a Steelers game in Cleveland a Pittsburgh jerk made enough of an ass of himself to get the heave-ho. Couple of years back I was at a preseason Browns-Lions game- in Detroit- primo seating- field level, row 30, 30 yard line and I saw a LIONS fan get evicted for starting a fight with a Browns fan. I got heckled continuously by a drunk Bucs fan @ Raymond James because I was wearing my colors. Compared to what went down at Old Muni in the 80's & 90's the new stadium is already positively pussified- and Holmgren wants to tame it down even more.??? Yeah Stone- I go by what I see. So don't give me any holier than thou BS on this topic.
There's a line between wearing your colors to an opposing stadium- and being a jerk when you do. I got total respect in Arrowhead- OTOH let's go to the other extreme- the BOZO who wore a LeBron Heat jersey to an Indians game right after the traitor bailed out of Cleveland- sorry, if he had been on the field it would have been a 15 yard penalty for taunting.
PS saw a real cute T-shirt after the game, said- LEBRON MAY HAVE GONE SOUTH, BUT HIS MOM'S STILL RIDIN' WEST.
:lol: Right- I'm certain Steeler fans are SO much more civil @ Ketchup Field. Listen up pal- you read the rest of this thread? Chiefs fans were getting tossed. Last time I went to a Steelers game in Cleveland a Pittsburgh jerk made enough of an ass of himself to get the heave-ho. Couple of years back I was at a preseason Browns-Lions game- in Detroit- primo seating- field level, row 30, 30 yard line and I saw a LIONS fan get evicted for starting a fight with a Browns fan. I got heckled continuously by a drunk Bucs fan @ Raymond James because I was wearing my colors.
Compared to what went down at Old Muni in the 80's & 90's the new stadium is already positively pussified- and Holmgren wants to tame it down even more.??? Yeah Stone- I go by what I see. So don't give me any holier than thou BS on this topic.
There's a line between wearing your colors to an opposing stadium- and being a jerk when you do. I got total respect in Arrowhead- OTOH let's go to the other extreme- the BOZO who wore a LeBron Heat jersey to an Indians game right after the traitor bailed out of Cleveland- sorry, if he had been on the field it would have been a 15 yard penalty for taunting.
PS saw a real cute T-shirt after the game, said- LEBRON MAY HAVE GONE SOUTH, BUT HIS MOM'S STILL RIDIN' WEST.
Unfortunately hoorta, it's useless trying to talk sense to some of these Steelers fans! In their eyes their team and their fanbase can do no wrong! They (not all mind you) are a prime example of poor sportsman ship! Bad winners.... bad losers! Most of them have NO respect for other fans or their respective teams!
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Formerly Stone said:
Once again, yo couldn't be much more stupid.The Steelers are known for how well their fans travel, part of this is the respect Steeler fans have for opposing teams and their fans. But, as usual, some of you Browns fans actually believe your own BS. Just because Steeler fans don't respect the Browns fans who puff their chest and spew their ignorance doesn't mean we don't respect other fans..............we just don't respect loud mouth losers......nobody does!
Decades of inbreeding has destroyed your ability to think.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Formerly Stone said:
Once again, you couldn't be much more stupid.The Steelers are known for how well their fans travel, part of this is the respect Steeler fans have for opposing teams and their fans. But, as usual, some of you Browns fans actually believe your own BS. Just because Steeler fans don't respect the Browns fans who puff their chest and spew their ignorance doesn't mean we don't respect other fans..............we just don't respect loud mouth losers......nobody does!
And once again you prove my point of how full of yourself that you are, by continuing to post on your rival team's message board. So according to your logic, because our team is so bad we're not allowed to be passionate, or cheer for our team, and that we should just sit quietly? It's called being a fan MORON, just like you loud mouths with your stupid towels! Here is a thought; if you don't like what Browns fans have to say, then don't come here. I mean, it's really quite simple. I would think that even you would be smart enough to know that Browns fans, or for that matter any fan of another AFCN team aren't going to have anything favorable to say about another rival team! Do I respect the Steelers? Sure, I guess. Do I like them? HELL NO! So why continue to come in here and spew your bullshit that will continue to fall on deaf ears?! I sure as hell am not going to go to a Steelers board and talk shit, and make inflammatory remarks even if the tables were turned! So again like I said... bad winners, and bad losers!
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Formerly Stone said:
Once again, yo couldn't be much more stupid.The Steelers are known for how well their fans travel, part of this is the respect Steeler fans have for opposing teams and their fans. But, as usual, some of you Browns fans actually believe your own BS. Just because Steeler fans don't respect the Browns fans who puff their chest and spew their ignorance doesn't mean we don't respect other fans..............we just don't respect loud mouth losers......nobody does!
Decades of inbreeding has destroyed your ability to think.
Decades of inbreeding has destroyed your ability to think.
That and drinking too much of that Iron Shitty Beer!
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