Terry Pluto:So what has happened to the Browns' offense --
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Terry says it best... Our talent and potential is their. That is no doubt. I have always been one not to point at the coach. At the professional level, the players have to perform. But this time around, I can't help but point the finger at RAC and the entire staff.
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I think another factor is the schedule. Another factor is the scouting against DA by more elite D's. I find the fact that DA's weaknesses (accuracy and touch pass) did not progress from the off season to the start of this season a major reason for the meltdown.
We also learned that this team is not mentally strong enough to overcome injuries and adversity. I applauded the Stallworth signing, but then I forgot that his history is very clear....injury prone. Bad signing.
The Retardation of BE was baffling. He needs a Cris Carter or Jerry Rice to mentor him. It's all mental and it's sure as hell not helping with this current coaching staff.
I underestimated the loss of JJ. He's 6'5 going across the middle. LB's had a hell of a time covering and being physical with him. You saw K2 get doubled up a lot on the same routes this year that last year were picking up 1st downs. Chud's inability to adjust for this and find another way (ie Harrison) to spread the field really clogged up the middle and the timing routes. Stallworth never took the heat off BE or spread the field.
Steptoe is serviceable as a 4th receiver. I truly believe Cribbs is #3 worthy....every time he touches the ball he gains positive yards. His formation is very different than the WildDawg. You have a RB basically running. Cribbs can run it, throw it, or catch it.....it's more multidimensional and harder to defend.
Finally, the running game took a hit. Lewis playing more elite D fronts and falling behind early really forced the Browns to throw throw throw. We sucked throwing it. Joe Thomas took a step back and that is very alarming. I know Steinbach fought nagging injuries all year as well. I underestimated the effectiveness of Tucker and him missing most of the season has had an adverse effect. Expect major changes at the RB position in 09 and some Oline tweaking.
All in All Savage said "we have the 8th best offense". He assumed they would pick up right where they left off and directed all of his attention to the Defense in FA and the draft for 08. Being aggressive with FA and in the draft have set this team back on both sides of the ball. We all felt Savage was doing the right things at the time, but now I'm not so sure.
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I popped in and out Sunday so maybe I missed something but I don't recall seeing any screens or draw plays despite the fact that Dorsey was in trouble quite a bit. No sweeps either- when Lewis can't go up the middle that's pretty much the end of the running game.
I pray to Jesus everytime the Browns throw that slant pass- how can a defense not be sitting on that play. It's a miracle everytime that pattern results in a completion.
It looks like a high school offense out there.
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A few weeks ago the argument AGAINST firing RAC in the middle of the season was that there was no one to step in and replace him. There might not be anyone who can do any better, but there also isn't anyone who can do any worse. 4 straight weeks of ugly hopeless football is no way to strengthen a fan base.
The blame for this season falling completely apart rests with Savage. I want him out of here as soon as possible, plain and simple.
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Ever wonder how Jeff Davidson was such a bad OC here, but goes to CAR, they allow him to develop, and now he is 10-3?
I say give Chud another chance. He showed me some things that make me think he needs a 3rd season.
Not gonna happen, but I would like to see it. It is not like his current HC could teach him how to grow as an OC. I mean we're talking about a HC that had Carthon calling plays.
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It's Tucker not being there, and Shaffer being there.
They did try a screen the last game, to the right, but it was completely blown up by a lack of blocking. Shaffer again.
and, I still haven't read an explanation why the middle of the line opened up like a sliding garage door right up the middle, when
Fraley went right and Joe Thomas and Steinback went left.
And I think Chud is a Dud, that he has his offense so confused, they are just freakin fed up.
Draft bigtime RT, sign a better center, new coaching staff, maybe Marty to replace Savage.
When Tucker was holding up the right side, the Browns could run the plays they wanted.
No Tucker, extremely limited on what they can run, if they can even do that... just like when Shaffer was on the left tackle spot.
He needs to be a backup OG. That's all.
And Edwards' drops.
Seriously, Mr. Cannon Arm Clodhopper at qb averaged 4.2 yards a throw. And a lot of those were frantically in a hurry. That is the biggest
difference from last year to this year.
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How about the staph infections and the lack of proactiveness that the team showed in getting rid of it ? I mean we have lost KW and JJ botht to staph and that too is contributing to the offensive lack of talent in the playable roster !
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@jadbf said:
Really? Have you read the stories about the steps the team has gone through to try and get rid of the staph? There was no lack of proactiveness.Well perhaps they did it after the infections started, Explain Kellen Winslow and JJ to me. first they have injury and then the delay due to the staph infection. And both were an integral part of our offense last year.
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I guess you are right, but it sickens when ur good players are down with injury ..
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Pluto is right. Chud is now looking like the second coming of Maurice Carthon.
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It's Tucker not being there, and Shaffer being there.
They did try a screen the last game, to the right, but it was completely blown up by a lack of blocking. Shaffer again.
and, I still haven't read an explanation why the middle of the line opened up like a sliding garage door right up the middle, when
Fraley went right and Joe Thomas and Steinback went left.
And I think Chud is a Dud, that he has his offense so confused, they are just freakin fed up.
Draft bigtime RT, sign a better center, new coaching staff, maybe Marty to replace Savage.
When Tucker was holding up the right side, the Browns could run the plays they wanted.
No Tucker, extremely limited on what they can run, if they can even do that... just like when Shaffer was on the left tackle spot.
He needs to be a backup OG. That's all.
And Edwards' drops.
Seriously, Mr. Cannon Arm Clodhopper at qb averaged 4.2 yards a throw. And a lot of those were frantically in a hurry. That is the biggest
difference from last year to this year.
It's Tucker not being there, and Shaffer being there.
They did try a screen the last game, to the right, but it was completely blown up by a lack of blocking. Shaffer again.
and, I still haven't read an explanation why the middle of the line opened up like a sliding garage door right up the middle, when
Fraley went right and Joe Thomas and Steinback went left.
And I think Chud is a Dud, that he has his offense so confused, they are just freakin fed up.
Draft bigtime RT, sign a better center, new coaching staff, maybe Marty to replace Savage.
When Tucker was holding up the right side, the Browns could run the plays they wanted.
No Tucker, extremely limited on what they can run, if they can even do that... just like when Shaffer was on the left tackle spot.
He needs to be a backup OG. That's all.
And Edwards' drops.
Seriously, Mr. Cannon Arm Clodhopper at qb averaged 4.2 yards a throw. And a lot of those were frantically in a hurry. That is the biggest
difference from last year to this year.
Mr. Cannon Arm Clodhopper THAT'S REALLY FUNNY...WHERE'S THE LUMSTER????
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It's Tucker not being there, and Shaffer being there.
They did try a screen the last game, to the right, but it was completely blown up by a lack of blocking. Shaffer again.
and, I still haven't read an explanation why the middle of the line opened up like a sliding garage door right up the middle, when
Fraley went right and Joe Thomas and Steinback went left.
And I think Chud is a Dud, that he has his offense so confused, they are just freakin fed up.
Draft bigtime RT, sign a better center, new coaching staff, maybe Marty to replace Savage.
When Tucker was holding up the right side, the Browns could run the plays they wanted.
No Tucker, extremely limited on what they can run, if they can even do that... just like when Shaffer was on the left tackle spot.
He needs to be a backup OG. That's all.
And Edwards' drops.
Seriously, Mr. Cannon Arm Clodhopper at qb averaged 4.2 yards a throw. And a lot of those were frantically in a hurry. That is the biggest
difference from last year to this year.
It's Tucker not being there, and Shaffer being there.
They did try a screen the last game, to the right, but it was completely blown up by a lack of blocking. Shaffer again.
and, I still haven't read an explanation why the middle of the line opened up like a sliding garage door right up the middle, when
Fraley went right and Joe Thomas and Steinback went left.
And I think Chud is a Dud, that he has his offense so confused, they are just freakin fed up.
Draft bigtime RT, sign a better center, new coaching staff, maybe Marty to replace Savage.
When Tucker was holding up the right side, the Browns could run the plays they wanted.
No Tucker, extremely limited on what they can run, if they can even do that... just like when Shaffer was on the left tackle spot.
He needs to be a backup OG. That's all.
And Edwards' drops.
Seriously, Mr. Cannon Arm Clodhopper at qb averaged 4.2 yards a throw. And a lot of those were frantically in a hurry. That is the biggest
difference from last year to this year.
Mr. Cannon Arm Clodhopper That's to d*** funny...where's the Lumster
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