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Terry Pluto:So what has happened to the Browns' offense --

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  • MrFreeze MrFreezeM
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    MrFreezeM MrFreeze wrote on last edited by
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    A few weeks ago the argument AGAINST firing RAC in the middle of the season was that there was no one to step in and replace him. There might not be anyone who can do any better, but there also isn't anyone who can do any worse. 4 straight weeks of ugly hopeless football is no way to strengthen a fan base.

    The blame for this season falling completely apart rests with Savage. I want him out of here as soon as possible, plain and simple.

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    • Vegasdogg V
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      V Vegasdogg wrote on last edited by Vegasdogg
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      Ever wonder how Jeff Davidson was such a bad OC here, but goes to CAR, they allow him to develop, and now he is 10-3?

      I say give Chud another chance. He showed me some things that make me think he needs a 3rd season.

      Not gonna happen, but I would like to see it. It is not like his current HC could teach him how to grow as an OC. I mean we're talking about a HC that had Carthon calling plays.

      "I will not insult your intelligence by suggesting you really believe what you just said." William F Buckley
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      • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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        It's Tucker not being there, and Shaffer being there.

        They did try a screen the last game, to the right, but it was completely blown up by a lack of blocking. Shaffer again.

        and, I still haven't read an explanation why the middle of the line opened up like a sliding garage door right up the middle, when

        Fraley went right and Joe Thomas and Steinback went left.

        And I think Chud is a Dud, that he has his offense so confused, they are just freakin fed up.

        Draft bigtime RT, sign a better center, new coaching staff, maybe Marty to replace Savage.

        When Tucker was holding up the right side, the Browns could run the plays they wanted.

        No Tucker, extremely limited on what they can run, if they can even do that... just like when Shaffer was on the left tackle spot.

        He needs to be a backup OG. That's all.

        And Edwards' drops.

        Seriously, Mr. Cannon Arm Clodhopper at qb averaged 4.2 yards a throw. And a lot of those were frantically in a hurry. That is the biggest

        difference from last year to this year.

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        • BrownIndian BrownIndianB
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          BrownIndianB BrownIndian wrote on last edited by
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          How about the staph infections and the lack of proactiveness that the team showed in getting rid of it ? I mean we have lost KW and JJ botht to staph and that too is contributing to the offensive lack of talent in the playable roster !

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          • BrownIndian BrownIndianB
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            BrownIndianB BrownIndian wrote on last edited by
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            @jadbf said:

            Really? Have you read the stories about the steps the team has gone through to try and get rid of the staph? There was no lack of proactiveness.

            Well perhaps they did it after the infections started, Explain Kellen Winslow and JJ to me. first they have injury and then the delay due to the staph infection. And both were an integral part of our offense last year.

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            • BrownIndian BrownIndianB
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              BrownIndianB BrownIndian wrote on last edited by
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              I guess you are right, but it sickens when ur good players are down with injury ..

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              • JewDago J
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                J JewDago wrote on last edited by
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                steptoe stays; we can't afford to use a draft pick on a receiver when we have other glaring needs that we can't solve by simply re-signing a guy we've already got on the team.

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                • PaulMcdonaldshoes P
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                  P PaulMcdonaldshoes wrote on last edited by
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                  Pluto is right. Chud is now looking like the second coming of Maurice Carthon.

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                  • C calfoxwc

                    It's Tucker not being there, and Shaffer being there.

                    They did try a screen the last game, to the right, but it was completely blown up by a lack of blocking. Shaffer again.

                    and, I still haven't read an explanation why the middle of the line opened up like a sliding garage door right up the middle, when

                    Fraley went right and Joe Thomas and Steinback went left.

                    And I think Chud is a Dud, that he has his offense so confused, they are just freakin fed up.

                    Draft bigtime RT, sign a better center, new coaching staff, maybe Marty to replace Savage.

                    When Tucker was holding up the right side, the Browns could run the plays they wanted.

                    No Tucker, extremely limited on what they can run, if they can even do that... just like when Shaffer was on the left tackle spot.

                    He needs to be a backup OG. That's all.

                    And Edwards' drops.

                    Seriously, Mr. Cannon Arm Clodhopper at qb averaged 4.2 yards a throw. And a lot of those were frantically in a hurry. That is the biggest

                    difference from last year to this year.

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                    daydawg19D daydawg19 wrote on last edited by
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                    @calfoxwc said:

                    It's Tucker not being there, and Shaffer being there.

                    They did try a screen the last game, to the right, but it was completely blown up by a lack of blocking. Shaffer again.

                    and, I still haven't read an explanation why the middle of the line opened up like a sliding garage door right up the middle, when

                    Fraley went right and Joe Thomas and Steinback went left.

                    And I think Chud is a Dud, that he has his offense so confused, they are just freakin fed up.

                    Draft bigtime RT, sign a better center, new coaching staff, maybe Marty to replace Savage.

                    When Tucker was holding up the right side, the Browns could run the plays they wanted.

                    No Tucker, extremely limited on what they can run, if they can even do that... just like when Shaffer was on the left tackle spot.

                    He needs to be a backup OG. That's all.

                    And Edwards' drops.

                    Seriously, Mr. Cannon Arm Clodhopper at qb averaged 4.2 yards a throw. And a lot of those were frantically in a hurry. That is the biggest

                    difference from last year to this year.

                    Mr. Cannon Arm Clodhopper THAT'S REALLY FUNNY...WHERE'S THE LUMSTER???? 😆

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                    • C calfoxwc

                      It's Tucker not being there, and Shaffer being there.

                      They did try a screen the last game, to the right, but it was completely blown up by a lack of blocking. Shaffer again.

                      and, I still haven't read an explanation why the middle of the line opened up like a sliding garage door right up the middle, when

                      Fraley went right and Joe Thomas and Steinback went left.

                      And I think Chud is a Dud, that he has his offense so confused, they are just freakin fed up.

                      Draft bigtime RT, sign a better center, new coaching staff, maybe Marty to replace Savage.

                      When Tucker was holding up the right side, the Browns could run the plays they wanted.

                      No Tucker, extremely limited on what they can run, if they can even do that... just like when Shaffer was on the left tackle spot.

                      He needs to be a backup OG. That's all.

                      And Edwards' drops.

                      Seriously, Mr. Cannon Arm Clodhopper at qb averaged 4.2 yards a throw. And a lot of those were frantically in a hurry. That is the biggest

                      difference from last year to this year.

                      daydawg19 daydawg19D
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                      daydawg19D daydawg19 wrote on last edited by
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                      @calfoxwc said:

                      It's Tucker not being there, and Shaffer being there.

                      They did try a screen the last game, to the right, but it was completely blown up by a lack of blocking. Shaffer again.

                      and, I still haven't read an explanation why the middle of the line opened up like a sliding garage door right up the middle, when

                      Fraley went right and Joe Thomas and Steinback went left.

                      And I think Chud is a Dud, that he has his offense so confused, they are just freakin fed up.

                      Draft bigtime RT, sign a better center, new coaching staff, maybe Marty to replace Savage.

                      When Tucker was holding up the right side, the Browns could run the plays they wanted.

                      No Tucker, extremely limited on what they can run, if they can even do that... just like when Shaffer was on the left tackle spot.

                      He needs to be a backup OG. That's all.

                      And Edwards' drops.

                      Seriously, Mr. Cannon Arm Clodhopper at qb averaged 4.2 yards a throw. And a lot of those were frantically in a hurry. That is the biggest

                      difference from last year to this year.

                      Mr. Cannon Arm Clodhopper That's to d*** funny...where's the Lumster 😛

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