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  • @kosar_for_president said:

    Maybe he took a page out of habitual ball grabber, Shawn Smith's playbook.

    PITTSBURGH (AP)—Steelers linebacker James Harrison(notes) states his objective matter-of-factly: He's out to hurt any opposing player who roams into his vicinity.

    If he sees players down on the turf—as he did Sunday when he sidelined Browns wide receivers Joshua Cribbs(notes) and Mohamed Massaquoi(notes) with punishing hits only minutes apart during the second quarter—he feels as if he's done his job.

    Harrison said he doesn't want to put any player out of a game or jeopardize his career. The former AP Defensive Player of the Year also realizes it can be difficult to draw a line between merely hurting a player and badly injuring him as plays take place at full speed and hits are delivered with little time to consider the consequences.

    We own the DAWG POUND.......punish on D.....and now we get this pussy posts about others are hitting too hard..........do we want a dawg pound or pussy pound........you cannot have it both ways.........lets take the pick

    me I am for Offense wins Championships and silencing dawg pound pussies

    IAM PRETTY SICK OF THE DAWG POUNDS OF DEFENSE PISSING THEIR PANTS THAT THE STEELERS HIT US TOO HARD

    @rich4eagle said:

    me I am for Offense wins Championships and silencing dawg pound pussies

    YOU ALSO ROOT FOR THE STEELERS SO YOUR OPINION SHOULDN'T AND DOESN'T COUNT ON A BROWNS BOARD.

  • @falcon7 said:

    whbja8.jpg

    He really is a nice guy.

    That was in retaliation to the Cardinals player diving at Harrison's knees. Keep hating though. Browns fans would kill for a player like Harrison. Right now their defense is as soft as they come.

    @steelhammer92 said:

    That was in retaliation to the Cardinals player diving at Harrison's knees. Keep hating though. Browns fans would kill for a player like Harrison. Right now their defense is as soft as they come.

    Your an idiot. I would NOT want a roid monkey like Harrison on my team.

  • @falcon7 said:

    whbja8.jpg

    He really is a nice guy.

    That was in retaliation to the Cardinals player diving at Harrison's knees. Keep hating though. Browns fans would kill for a player like Harrison. Right now their defense is as soft as they come.

    @steelhammer92 said:

    Right now their defense is as soft as they come.

    ARE THEY AS SOFT AS YOU MOM'S SAGGY TITS?

  • on espn's 'Around The Horn' they suggested players commiting these flagrant type of hits (even if not penalized) should be ejected from the game and automatically suspended from 2-4 games. they also called harrison a headhunter and that the league is looking for a way to weed out such miscreants while weighing the violence of the game vs. player safety.

    SEE YA HARRISON, YOU BIG FLIPPIN' GOON!!!!

    BTW: turkey jones would have suspended a year and fined out the ying yang if he did such a thing in today's nfl. and there would be no argument with that here.

    @miktoxic said:

    on espn's 'Around The Horn' they suggested players commiting these flagrant type of hits (even if not penalized) should be ejected from the game and automatically suspended from 2-4 games. they also called harrison a headhunter and that the league is looking for a way to weed out such miscreants while weighing the violence of the game vs. player safety.

    SEE YA HARRISON, YOU BIG FLIPPIN' GOON!!!!

    BTW: turkey jones would have suspended a year and fined out the ying yang if he did such a thing in today's nfl. and there would be no argument with that here.

    Harrison isnt going anywhere.....Around the horn is a bunch of bleeding hearts that should be made to wear dresses on that show. Turkey Jones should have gotten what he got, a 3000.00 fine and a 15 yd penalty, in todays NFL and yesterdays.

    This game is going to suck in a few years if ppl keep crying.......its really going to suck. Might as well put flags on their hips.....

  • @rich4eagle said:

    me I am for Offense wins Championships and silencing dawg pound pussies

    YOU ALSO ROOT FOR THE STEELERS SO YOUR OPINION SHOULDN'T AND DOESN'T COUNT ON A BROWNS BOARD.

    @miktoxic said:

    YOU ALSO ROOT FOR THE STEELERS SO YOUR OPINION SHOULDN'T AND DOESN'T COUNT ON A BROWNS BOARD.

    This is my honest thought out opinion of your post.........xxxx YOU

  • i'm not saying the game needs to change. they need to make sure no one gets killed/paralyzed or seriously injured. in every generation there have been goons that played the game, guys that were dirty players. well harrison just happens to be one of them and he plays for the steelers.

  • @supersteelers said:

    One of the few that plays the game the way it was intended.....Turkey Joness would be ashamed of all this crying

    I won't bitch about the Cribbs hit because I figure the league will decide whether it was legal. I can see the debatability of that play. The Massaquoi hit was the definition of illegal. That said, I think many players go all out and make plays. They may fall on the illegal side of things without that necessarily being out of the intent to be outside the bounds of legal play.

    James Harrison's comments suggest, however, that he is on the illegal side of that coin and wants to be there. In an age where the league is trying to protect players (including Harrison) it's particularly insensitive to beat your chest in the media with gorilla-like bravado. What's worse is that in his puny mind, he thinks that since Cribbs was unconscious ('asleep' in his words) that the hit was somehow "ok" or less severe.

    Helloooo, MCFLY!!! When you lose consciousness after head trauma....it's not a good thing! Dr. Harrison! That's a Grade III concussion per the Colorado Guidelines and the AAN Guidelines (That's the worst kind). Josh Cribbs didn't decide to take a nap on the field and it's not alright.

    @earl34 said:

    I won't bitch about the Cribbs hit because I figure the league will decide whether it was legal. I can see the debatability of that play. The Massaquoi hit was the definition of illegal. That said, I think many players go all out and make plays. They may fall on the illegal side of things without that necessarily being out of the intent to be outside the bounds of legal play.

    James Harrison's comments suggest, however, that he is on the illegal side of that coin and wants to be there. In an age where the league is trying to protect players (including Harrison) it's particularly insensitive to beat your chest in the media with gorilla-like bravado. What's worse is that in his puny mind, he thinks that since Cribbs was unconscious ('asleep' in his words) that the hit was somehow "ok" or less severe.

    Helloooo, MCFLY!!! When you lose consciousness after head trauma....it's not a good thing! Dr. Harrison! That's a Grade III concussion per the Colorado Guidelines and the AAN Guidelines (That's the worst kind). Josh Cribbs didn't decide to take a nap on the field and it's not alright.

    First off, quit using my damn line from Back to the Future. I got copyrights on that line on this board 😛

    And also, in this league, what goes around, comes around. Maybe, just maybe someone will take it upon themselves to pull a Hines Ward and give him a blind side coldcock that will give him a little involuntary nap someday.

  • Yep, what goes around comes around, you play hard you hit hard and you win hard, on the other hand you whine hard you whine more and lose more

    Stopt the whining and start the hitting

  • Yep, what goes around comes around, you play hard you hit hard and you win hard, on the other hand you whine hard you whine more and lose more

    Stopt the whining and start the hitting

    @rich4eagle said:

    Yep, what goes around comes around, you play hard you hit hard and you win hard, on the other hand you whine hard you whine more and lose more

    Stopt the whining and start the hitting

    Yes, let the legal hitting begin, I love tj wards presence, and willingness to hit people, but not in the head. Though he did hit Shipley, which I agree was a fine worthy hit, he did not go straight for shipley's head while he was already being tackled. The hit Harrison put on cribbs was strictly aimed at his head, technichaly the hit is legal but only an asshole purposely aims to paralyze a person by hitting them in the head. The massaquoi hit was once again aimed at his head even though he led with his shoulder, why couldn't he hit him in the pads? Harrison is a presence but an asshole nonetheless, go join a steelers board if you support them, like you seem to do. We already have enough unintelligence floating around this board

  • People on around the horn are crying about it because it gets people to tune in, the mass media is usually about being as dramatic as possible all the time because it's what garners the most attention. Frame by frame the mo-mass hit. You will see that it's Harrison's shoulder that makes initial contact with Mo-mass and knocks his helmet back, not his helmet. The Cribbs hit on the other hand is a part of football, both hits are for that matter. Issac Newton would certainly have a problem with all this bs if he were still alive. It's getting ridiculous. Also let's not kid ourselves for a minute. If it were Browns player inflicting the damage the stories here would be completely different. Don't get it twisted girls.

    Quick someone make a motion to change the league from the NFL to the National Flag Football League.

    Bunch of gutless cry babies.

    It's a full contact sport that gets it's viewership because of it's violence. Eliminate that and less people tune in to watch and you change the course of the game as we know it. Best part in it all is Peter King has Rodney Harrison has a "expert" on the issue. I just about died laughing the first time I read his most recent article. It's a damn joke.

  • Frame by frame it from a appropriate angle. Harrison's Shoulder is what drills Mo-mass initially.

    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    aaaaaaaahmbulance! Wooooo Woooooo

  • Rodney Harrison a notorious head hunter and formerly voted "Dirtiest player in the NFL" has a lot of room to comment on the issue. Harrison will not be suspended and I can't believe people are calling for it. I guess everyone wants a bitch ass football league to watch every Sunday. It's bad enough with the Retarded QB contact flags, let's eliminate hard tackles too. Pretty soon we will have flags. The only reason any of you simpletons are crying is because two Browns went down this Sunday.

  • People on around the horn are crying about it because it gets people to tune in, the mass media is usually about being as dramatic as possible all the time because it's what garners the most attention. Frame by frame the mo-mass hit. You will see that it's Harrison's shoulder that makes initial contact with Mo-mass and knocks his helmet back, not his helmet. The Cribbs hit on the other hand is a part of football, both hits are for that matter. Issac Newton would certainly have a problem with all this bs if he were still alive. It's getting ridiculous. Also let's not kid ourselves for a minute. If it were Browns player inflicting the damage the stories here would be completely different. Don't get it twisted girls.

    Quick someone make a motion to change the league from the NFL to the National Flag Football League.

    Bunch of gutless cry babies.

    It's a full contact sport that gets it's viewership because of it's violence. Eliminate that and less people tune in to watch and you change the course of the game as we know it. Best part in it all is Peter King has Rodney Harrison has a "expert" on the issue. I just about died laughing the first time I read his most recent article. It's a damn joke.

    Homotron said:

    If it were Browns player inflicting the damage the stories here would be completely different.

    you are correct sir. then we would be calling you girls and telling you to stop whining.

  • Rodney Harrison a notorious head hunter and formerly voted "Dirtiest player in the NFL" has a lot of room to comment on the issue. Harrison will not be suspended and I can't believe people are calling for it. I guess everyone wants a bitch ass football league to watch every Sunday. It's bad enough with the Retarded QB contact flags, let's eliminate hard tackles too. Pretty soon we will have flags. The only reason any of you simpletons are crying is because two Browns went down this Sunday.

    Homotron said:

    Rodney Harrison a notorious head hunter and formerly voted "Dirtiest player in the NFL" has a lot of room to comment on the issue. Harrison will not be suspended and I can't believe people are calling for it. I guess everyone wants a bitch ass football league to watch every Sunday. It's bad enough with the Retarded QB contact flags, let's eliminate hard tackles too. Pretty soon we will have flags. The only reason any of you simpletons are crying is because two Browns went down this Sunday.

    Hope a few of your players get unfair hits on them in the near future just for the sake that you can be in our position.

  • mikeyP72 said:

    You are so xxxxing full of shit it's not even funny.... Remember 2 weeks ago when you were crying like a little bitch about TJ Wards hit on Shipley... I said this: " YOU LIMP DICK FAGGOTS WOULD NOT EVEN SNEEZE AT THIS IF IT WERE HINESY WARD LAYING THE HIT "

    Harrison, Ward... Same douche bag in my opinion.

    Same as you.

    Once again you simple xxxx because you and I already hashed this out once I didn't say anything about Shipley. I didn't watch that game, didn't see the hit and don't believe players should be penalized for playing aggressively. You routinely lump every Steeler fan in to the same boat. Last I checked I'm the only one here posting under this moderator altered name. I'll wait for my apology you simple xxxx.

  • Homotron said:

    Rodney Harrison a notorious head hunter and formerly voted "Dirtiest player in the NFL" has a lot of room to comment on the issue. Harrison will not be suspended and I can't believe people are calling for it. I guess everyone wants a bitch ass football league to watch every Sunday. It's bad enough with the Retarded QB contact flags, let's eliminate hard tackles too. Pretty soon we will have flags. The only reason any of you simpletons are crying is because two Browns went down this Sunday.

    Hope a few of your players get unfair hits on them in the near future just for the sake that you can be in our position.

    @theclevelandsound said:

    Hope a few of your players get unfair hits on them in the near future just for the sake that you can be in our position.

    What changed your tune? Because you now realize using Rodney Harrison as some sort of authority on the issue is not only moronic but IRONIC? It's Football, violent hits happen. I have a problem with horse collars, I have a problem with blatant cheap shots after the whistle or when the ball is clearly out of play but i DON"T have a problem with guys playing aggressively and trying to win ball games. All the NFL is doing now is neutering defenses. You know that guy you all are quickly falling in love with by the name of Ward? who shares the same number as Troy. He'll be altering his game if a new rule is put in place and it's a damn shame. We're fans of the NFL, fans of violence, aggression and competition. Start throwing out all these bullshit rules and you alter the course of the game forever. Truthfully you should be ashamed of yourselves. It's the xxxxing NFL! Christ.

  • @mark-o said:

    Rodney Harrison just said on NBC that defensive players need to be suspended for the shots to the head, which included the hit by Harrison on Massaquoi.

    I see what you did there. Rodney never said anything about Harrison's hit. He was talking in gneral $5,000 fines are nothing for people making millions.

    @spunkonmyback-dpoy said:

    I see what you did there. Rodney never said anything about Harrison's hit. He was talking in gneral $5,000 fines are nothing for people making millions.

    You do know your name is spunk on my back, right? So...how does that feel? Do you let all the Steelers put it in dry or just Big Ben and Harrison?

  • @spunkonmyback-dpoy said:

    I see what you did there. Rodney never said anything about Harrison's hit. He was talking in gneral $5,000 fines are nothing for people making millions.

    You do know your name is spunk on my back, right? So...how does that feel? Do you let all the Steelers put it in dry or just Big Ben and Harrison?

    @hillis4prez420 said:

    Do you let all the Steelers put it in dry or just Big Ben and Harrison?

    you forgot Hines.

  • @hillis4prez420 said:

    Do you let all the Steelers put it in dry or just Big Ben and Harrison?

    you forgot Hines.

    @miktoxic said:

    you forgot Hines.

    Oh, yeah. I bet he lets him use ketchup though as lube

  • The reason why it should've been flagged and why it will probably be fined is the new rule that they're protecting the defenseless receivers a lot more this year and Massaquoi was completely defenseless at the point of contact and he was hit in the head.

    It's the same reason why Ward was penalized and fined for his hit on shipley....he didn't hit with his head, he hit Shipley with a shoulder, but Shipley was defenseless and he was hit in the head.

    @mark-o said:

    The reason why it should've been flagged and why it will probably be fined is the new rule that they're protecting the defenseless receivers a lot more this year and Massaquoi was completely defenseless at the point of contact and he was hit in the head.

    It's the same reason why Ward was penalized and fined for his hit on shipley....he didn't hit with his head, he hit Shipley with a shoulder, but Shipley was defenseless and he was hit in the head.

    Marko ...If you dont Hit MoMass... he Catches ball and Gains ?? God knows how many yards.... I woulda hit him too. Its unfortunate he was blasted in the Head , but a REAL TIME SPEED... its hard to make adjustments. I am sure Harrsion doesnt WANT His own head exploded either. Its Football... I wouldnt have fined Ward either.... hes a Beastly young player , playing the Game like it was to be played . With wreckless Abandon !