Head-to-Head Hits & New Rule Discussion
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5701512
The NFL will announce by Wednesday that, effective this weekend, even first-time offenders face suspension for "devastating hits" and "head shots," according to Ray Anderson, the league's executive vice president of football operations.
"We can't and won't tolerate what we saw Sunday," Anderson said Monday. "We've got to get the message to players that these devastating hits and head shots will be met with a very necessary higher standard of accountability. We have to dispel the notion that you get one free pass in these egregious or flagrant shots."
Anderson was alluding to the normal disciplinary measures in which the league has issued fines for first-time offenders and, very often, second-time offenders.
"What we saw Sunday was disturbing," Anderson said. "We're talking about avoiding life-altering impacts."
Sunday's games produced a number of violent hits.
The Eagles' DeSean Jackson and the Falcons' Dunta Robinson were knocked out of their game after a frightening collision in which Robinson launched himself head first into Jackson. Both sustained concussions, and Jackson is not expected to play in Week 7.
Ravens tight end Todd Heap took a vicious hit from Patriots safety Brandon Meriweather that Heap called "one of those hits that shouldn't happen." The team was in contact with the league about the tackle.
Steelers linebacker James Harrison sidelined two Browns players with head injuries after jarring hits. An NFL spokesman said one of the tackles, on Josh Cribbs, was legal. The Browns were more upset about Harrison's hit on Mohamed Massaquoi, which the league is reviewing.
And Jets safety Jim Leonhard was flagged 15 yards for a helmet-to-helmet hit on Brandon Lloyd in a 24-20 win over the Broncos.
Anderson would not speculate earlier Monday on how many players would be punished for hits from the past Sunday's games. Players also can be ejected from games for illegal hits, but that's rare.
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Anyone watch the MNF post-game show?
Anyone watch MNF here?
Anyway, Steve Young is right. Start taking away big hits and football isn't football anymore. Call it (quoting Young) "rugby with helmets".
This is Goodell's NFL. Football is dead.
RIP
Regards...
... an'at
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Anyone watch the MNF post-game show?
Anyone watch MNF here?
Anyway, Steve Young is right. Start taking away big hits and football isn't football anymore. Call it (quoting Young) "rugby with helmets".
This is Goodell's NFL. Football is dead.
RIP
Regards...
... an'at
.
Anyone watch the MNF post-game show?
Anyone watch MNF here?
Anyway, Steve Young is right. Start taking away big hits and football isn't football anymore. Call it (quoting Young) "rugby with helmets".
This is Goodell's NFL. Football is dead.
Lets put you in pads and see how your viewpoint changes.
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Anyone watch the MNF post-game show?
Anyone watch MNF here?
Anyway, Steve Young is right. Start taking away big hits and football isn't football anymore. Call it (quoting Young) "rugby with helmets".
This is Goodell's NFL. Football is dead.
Lets put you in pads and see how your viewpoint changes.
Lets put you in pads and see how your viewpoint changes.
let's see when the Steelers best players get knocked out because of a cheap shots and costs them the game
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love it!!! Goodell is looking into scumbag flagrant hits by players that happened on sunday, one of whom happen to be a steeler. now every steeler fan on here calls the 'investigation' and it's outcome as the pussification of the nfl. get real.
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Anyone watch the MNF post-game show?
Anyone watch MNF here?
Anyway, Steve Young is right. Start taking away big hits and football isn't football anymore. Call it (quoting Young) "rugby with helmets".
This is Goodell's NFL. Football is dead.
Lets put you in pads and see how your viewpoint changes.
Lets put you in pads and see how your viewpoint changes.
Might as well.
My unconditioned and out of shape body would be well suited for Goodell's NFL.
That's the level of play that we will be seeing pretty soon.
Regards...
... an'at
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Anyone watch the MNF post-game show?
Anyone watch MNF here?
Anyway, Steve Young is right. Start taking away big hits and football isn't football anymore. Call it (quoting Young) "rugby with helmets".
This is Goodell's NFL. Football is dead.
RIP
Regards...
... an'at
.
This is Goodell's NFL. Football is dead.
RIP
Regards...
... an'at
.
Stop Whining, geez.
"The sky is falling ... the sky is falling"
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The NFL will soon be like pee wee football. Let's not even keep score anymore. Would not want to hurt someones feelings let alone get an injury in a sport that was meant to be violent.
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Unbelievable how much of a bunch of pussies there are as fans of the NFL anymore. This game was designed to be violent. It's supposed to be that way. The more they change rules to make the game safer the more the game suffers. Yes, players get hurt, sometimes seriously. It's why they get paid millions of dollars. It's part of the game and always should be. This game was never meant to be safe.
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The NFL will soon be like pee wee football. Let's not even keep score anymore. Would not want to hurt someones feelings let alone get an injury in a sport that was meant to be violent.
in a sport that was meant to be violent.
aggressiveness is the nfl. playing hard is the nfl. violence is smacking your girl around and getting arrested for assault.
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Unbelievable how much of a bunch of pussies there are as fans of the NFL anymore. This game was designed to be violent. It's supposed to be that way. The more they change rules to make the game safer the more the game suffers. Yes, players get hurt, sometimes seriously. It's why they get paid millions of dollars. It's part of the game and always should be. This game was never meant to be safe.
Unbelievable how much of a bunch of pussies there are as fans of the NFL anymore. This game was designed to be violent. It's supposed to be that way. The more they change rules to make the game safer the more the game suffers. Yes, players get hurt, sometimes seriously. It's why they get paid millions of dollars. It's part of the game and always should be. This game was never meant to be safe.
so you stood up and cheered when darryl stingley was carted off the field? instead of human beings lifting themselves and launching themselves at opponents, why don't we fill up a big bag of shit and shoot it out of a cannon at the guys coming across the middle? nobody's calling for the end of aggressive play..........violent thug play yes. too bad your team is on the giving end of the argument because of harrison. and because he is your boy everyone in steeler land just argues against anything involving their team.
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Anyone watch the MNF post-game show?
Anyone watch MNF here?
Anyway, Steve Young is right. Start taking away big hits and football isn't football anymore. Call it (quoting Young) "rugby with helmets".
This is Goodell's NFL. Football is dead.
RIP
Regards...
... an'at
.
Anyone watch the MNF post-game show?
Anyone watch MNF here?
Anyway, Steve Young is right. Start taking away big hits and football isn't football anymore. Call it (quoting Young) "rugby with helmets".
This is Goodell's NFL. Football is dead.
RIP
Regards...
... an'at
.
I agree with Steve, and this league and Goondale are trying to water down the product that has made them money. With that said, the Steelers defense is against the law, IMO. Miami better not run that "Mildcat" offense or even come across the middle next Sunday. If they do, all bets are off. Any offensive coach that tries to advance the ball against our defense is just as guilty of injuring a player as James is.....maybe even more.
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Unbelievable how much of a bunch of pussies there are as fans of the NFL anymore. This game was designed to be violent. It's supposed to be that way. The more they change rules to make the game safer the more the game suffers. Yes, players get hurt, sometimes seriously. It's why they get paid millions of dollars. It's part of the game and always should be. This game was never meant to be safe.
so you stood up and cheered when darryl stingley was carted off the field? instead of human beings lifting themselves and launching themselves at opponents, why don't we fill up a big bag of shit and shoot it out of a cannon at the guys coming across the middle? nobody's calling for the end of aggressive play..........violent thug play yes. too bad your team is on the giving end of the argument because of harrison. and because he is your boy everyone in steeler land just argues against anything involving their team.
so you stood up and cheered when darryl stingley was carted off the field? instead of human beings lifting themselves and launching themselves at opponents, why don't we fill up a big bag of shit and shoot it out of a cannon at the guys coming across the middle? nobody's calling for the end of aggressive play..........violent thug play yes. too bad your team is on the giving end of the argument because of harrison. and because he is your boy everyone in steeler land just argues against anything involving their team.
No, we cheer when your player gets laid out but is still able to walk off the field.
We pray and hope for the best if they can't.
If yinz had any players who could lay a hit every now and then, you'd understand.
Keep the faith.
Regards...
... an'at
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Unbelievable how much of a bunch of pussies there are as fans of the NFL anymore. This game was designed to be violent. It's supposed to be that way. The more they change rules to make the game safer the more the game suffers. Yes, players get hurt, sometimes seriously. It's why they get paid millions of dollars. It's part of the game and always should be. This game was never meant to be safe.
so you stood up and cheered when darryl stingley was carted off the field? instead of human beings lifting themselves and launching themselves at opponents, why don't we fill up a big bag of shit and shoot it out of a cannon at the guys coming across the middle? nobody's calling for the end of aggressive play..........violent thug play yes. too bad your team is on the giving end of the argument because of harrison. and because he is your boy everyone in steeler land just argues against anything involving their team.
so you stood up and cheered when darryl stingley was carted off the field? instead of human beings lifting themselves and launching themselves at opponents, why don't we fill up a big bag of shit and shoot it out of a cannon at the guys coming across the middle? nobody's calling for the end of aggressive play..........violent thug play yes. too bad your team is on the giving end of the argument because of harrison. and because he is your boy everyone in steeler land just argues against anything involving their team.
Cheered? No. But I don't want the game changed to make is safer if a player gets hit. The game is supposed to be violent. Injuries are a part of this game and always have been. Maybe the other version of football is more your "cup of tea." This is not about violent thug play, it's called football and you are supposed to try and hit the other player and hurt them. Do you actually think that when they hit someone it's not supposed to hurt them? I've never been against aggressive play even if it is against our own players. It's what the game is supposed to be like.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
Yeah, how many Steelers had live altering experiences after all their head injuries? Merril Hoge still comes out swinging when the pizza delivery boy rigs the doorbell. MIke Webster met a tragic end supposedly because of head injury induced depression.Harrison purposely lead with his head, and he didn't have to. That is what makes this guy even more despicable.
Steroids, lighter equipment, better training, more competition and better fields all contribute to faster, more violent impacts. WHile guys have much more lean muscle today, their spines are no different than the guys playing in the 60's. There's your problem.
It's fun to be Jack Lambert and put dresses on the sissies who don't want to get hit, isn't it? Especially when it's your rivals getting hurt. Well, sooner or later Steeler Vermin, it's going to happen to one of your own, hell, with HArrison leading with his head so much, he's a prime suspect for taking one not quite right.
Or wait, maybe he has a special kind of spinal chord that doens't crack, eh? Wow, he's superman.............
As far as Steve Young goes, he is a prime example of why the Commissioner needs to change things. Football players know nothing else but playing ball, They will play well beyond teh voice of reason when further hits could ruin their lives. Young was getting a concussion every time someone yelled "COLD BEER HERE" and still, he insisted that he was fine.
My problem with this Commissioner is that he is only half committed. Letting Vick back in was sickening. Reducing PeePeeburgers suspension because he promised to be good was also BS. THe NFL has done a lot of things that piss fans off, like curtailing celebrations and not showing bad behavior................... BUT........... the NFL continues to grow. So don't worry about nobody showing up.
Steeler fans? Yeah, you guys are Johnny come lately and don't even know your own history, let alone appreciating the fraternity of the NFL. Left up to you the NFL would be an unrooly, violent shithole. That is of course, until it was YOUR guys who started getting hurt, THEN, you scum would be the first ones to cry foul.
Thank you for teh reply, but you failed to understand teh point.
Football is a dangerous sport. So is driving teh car or taking a walk in teh park.
Football players know that teh game is violent and dangerous and they know teh risks taken.
That is teh real issue.
Regards...
... an'at
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NO Fine... Massiq ?? hmmm... Maybe but probably Not. Cribbs NO WAY . Hes a Runningback at that Point. And Runningback are NOT A Protected species in the NFL !!
I agree on Cribbs. I don't think Harrison did anything wrong on that play. He was just trying to make a play.
I think the MoMss hit will get him fined. I don't think he was trying to be dirty on that play, but, the NFL has it's rules and that one was close enough that when you add in what happened to Cribbs the NFL is probably going to seek a contribution to their general fund.
I agree on Cribbs. I don't think Harrison did anything wrong on that play. He was just trying to make a play.
I think the MoMss hit will get him fined. I don't think he was trying to be dirty on that play, but, the NFL has it's rules and that one was close enough that when you add in what happened to Cribbs the NFL is probably going to seek a contribution to their general fund.
Wow. Someone actually being honest and understands the game is quick and violent. The way it is supposed to be.
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in a sport that was meant to be violent.
aggressiveness is the nfl. playing hard is the nfl. violence is smacking your girl around and getting arrested for assault.
aggressiveness is the nfl. playing hard is the nfl. violence is smacking your girl around and getting arrested for assault.
I said violent, not violence. It is supposed to be a violent sport. You take away the hard hits, you take away the game. The more they make rules that stop violent hits the more the game suffers. If you want a safe game play bocce.
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Wow. Just got invited to my first "FIRE ROGER GODELL" facebook group. Guess who made it? A Steelers fan.
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If anything goes with the steelers, I say the first time Hiney Ward catches a pass, the db's go for his knees and take one out completely.
Self-defense is justified now.
I'd grab Troy PollyisaGirlieMan's hair, and fling him ten yards.
After, the steelers want to play rough? Wait til they come to Cleveland....
paybacks are in order. Sad to see my friend Rich defending the putspuke headhunters....
After, the steelers want to play rough? Wait til they come to Cleveland....
paybacks are in order.
WTF??? What are the Brownies going to do, hit us with their purse??? Our backups will be in, and we STILL will be favored by +3 in the Puppy Pound.....you guys keep whining about the refs, meantime we'll be bringing home Lombardi #7.
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aggressiveness is the nfl. playing hard is the nfl. violence is smacking your girl around and getting arrested for assault.
I said violent, not violence. It is supposed to be a violent sport. You take away the hard hits, you take away the game. The more they make rules that stop violent hits the more the game suffers. If you want a safe game play bocce.
I said violent, not violence. It is supposed to be a violent sport. You take away the hard hits, you take away the game. The more they make rules that stop violent hits the more the game suffers. If you want a safe game play bocce.
Or an accordion.
Regards...
... an'at
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