Head-to-Head Hits & New Rule Discussion
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The NFL will soon be like pee wee football. Let's not even keep score anymore. Would not want to hurt someones feelings let alone get an injury in a sport that was meant to be violent.
in a sport that was meant to be violent.
aggressiveness is the nfl. playing hard is the nfl. violence is smacking your girl around and getting arrested for assault.
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Unbelievable how much of a bunch of pussies there are as fans of the NFL anymore. This game was designed to be violent. It's supposed to be that way. The more they change rules to make the game safer the more the game suffers. Yes, players get hurt, sometimes seriously. It's why they get paid millions of dollars. It's part of the game and always should be. This game was never meant to be safe.
Unbelievable how much of a bunch of pussies there are as fans of the NFL anymore. This game was designed to be violent. It's supposed to be that way. The more they change rules to make the game safer the more the game suffers. Yes, players get hurt, sometimes seriously. It's why they get paid millions of dollars. It's part of the game and always should be. This game was never meant to be safe.
so you stood up and cheered when darryl stingley was carted off the field? instead of human beings lifting themselves and launching themselves at opponents, why don't we fill up a big bag of shit and shoot it out of a cannon at the guys coming across the middle? nobody's calling for the end of aggressive play..........violent thug play yes. too bad your team is on the giving end of the argument because of harrison. and because he is your boy everyone in steeler land just argues against anything involving their team.
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Anyone watch the MNF post-game show?
Anyone watch MNF here?
Anyway, Steve Young is right. Start taking away big hits and football isn't football anymore. Call it (quoting Young) "rugby with helmets".
This is Goodell's NFL. Football is dead.
RIP
Regards...
... an'at
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Anyone watch the MNF post-game show?
Anyone watch MNF here?
Anyway, Steve Young is right. Start taking away big hits and football isn't football anymore. Call it (quoting Young) "rugby with helmets".
This is Goodell's NFL. Football is dead.
RIP
Regards...
... an'at
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I agree with Steve, and this league and Goondale are trying to water down the product that has made them money. With that said, the Steelers defense is against the law, IMO. Miami better not run that "Mildcat" offense or even come across the middle next Sunday. If they do, all bets are off. Any offensive coach that tries to advance the ball against our defense is just as guilty of injuring a player as James is.....maybe even more.
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Unbelievable how much of a bunch of pussies there are as fans of the NFL anymore. This game was designed to be violent. It's supposed to be that way. The more they change rules to make the game safer the more the game suffers. Yes, players get hurt, sometimes seriously. It's why they get paid millions of dollars. It's part of the game and always should be. This game was never meant to be safe.
so you stood up and cheered when darryl stingley was carted off the field? instead of human beings lifting themselves and launching themselves at opponents, why don't we fill up a big bag of shit and shoot it out of a cannon at the guys coming across the middle? nobody's calling for the end of aggressive play..........violent thug play yes. too bad your team is on the giving end of the argument because of harrison. and because he is your boy everyone in steeler land just argues against anything involving their team.
so you stood up and cheered when darryl stingley was carted off the field? instead of human beings lifting themselves and launching themselves at opponents, why don't we fill up a big bag of shit and shoot it out of a cannon at the guys coming across the middle? nobody's calling for the end of aggressive play..........violent thug play yes. too bad your team is on the giving end of the argument because of harrison. and because he is your boy everyone in steeler land just argues against anything involving their team.
No, we cheer when your player gets laid out but is still able to walk off the field.
We pray and hope for the best if they can't.
If yinz had any players who could lay a hit every now and then, you'd understand.
Keep the faith.
Regards...
... an'at
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Unbelievable how much of a bunch of pussies there are as fans of the NFL anymore. This game was designed to be violent. It's supposed to be that way. The more they change rules to make the game safer the more the game suffers. Yes, players get hurt, sometimes seriously. It's why they get paid millions of dollars. It's part of the game and always should be. This game was never meant to be safe.
so you stood up and cheered when darryl stingley was carted off the field? instead of human beings lifting themselves and launching themselves at opponents, why don't we fill up a big bag of shit and shoot it out of a cannon at the guys coming across the middle? nobody's calling for the end of aggressive play..........violent thug play yes. too bad your team is on the giving end of the argument because of harrison. and because he is your boy everyone in steeler land just argues against anything involving their team.
so you stood up and cheered when darryl stingley was carted off the field? instead of human beings lifting themselves and launching themselves at opponents, why don't we fill up a big bag of shit and shoot it out of a cannon at the guys coming across the middle? nobody's calling for the end of aggressive play..........violent thug play yes. too bad your team is on the giving end of the argument because of harrison. and because he is your boy everyone in steeler land just argues against anything involving their team.
Cheered? No. But I don't want the game changed to make is safer if a player gets hit. The game is supposed to be violent. Injuries are a part of this game and always have been. Maybe the other version of football is more your "cup of tea." This is not about violent thug play, it's called football and you are supposed to try and hit the other player and hurt them. Do you actually think that when they hit someone it's not supposed to hurt them? I've never been against aggressive play even if it is against our own players. It's what the game is supposed to be like.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
Yeah, how many Steelers had live altering experiences after all their head injuries? Merril Hoge still comes out swinging when the pizza delivery boy rigs the doorbell. MIke Webster met a tragic end supposedly because of head injury induced depression.Harrison purposely lead with his head, and he didn't have to. That is what makes this guy even more despicable.
Steroids, lighter equipment, better training, more competition and better fields all contribute to faster, more violent impacts. WHile guys have much more lean muscle today, their spines are no different than the guys playing in the 60's. There's your problem.
It's fun to be Jack Lambert and put dresses on the sissies who don't want to get hit, isn't it? Especially when it's your rivals getting hurt. Well, sooner or later Steeler Vermin, it's going to happen to one of your own, hell, with HArrison leading with his head so much, he's a prime suspect for taking one not quite right.
Or wait, maybe he has a special kind of spinal chord that doens't crack, eh? Wow, he's superman.............
As far as Steve Young goes, he is a prime example of why the Commissioner needs to change things. Football players know nothing else but playing ball, They will play well beyond teh voice of reason when further hits could ruin their lives. Young was getting a concussion every time someone yelled "COLD BEER HERE" and still, he insisted that he was fine.
My problem with this Commissioner is that he is only half committed. Letting Vick back in was sickening. Reducing PeePeeburgers suspension because he promised to be good was also BS. THe NFL has done a lot of things that piss fans off, like curtailing celebrations and not showing bad behavior................... BUT........... the NFL continues to grow. So don't worry about nobody showing up.
Steeler fans? Yeah, you guys are Johnny come lately and don't even know your own history, let alone appreciating the fraternity of the NFL. Left up to you the NFL would be an unrooly, violent shithole. That is of course, until it was YOUR guys who started getting hurt, THEN, you scum would be the first ones to cry foul.
Thank you for teh reply, but you failed to understand teh point.
Football is a dangerous sport. So is driving teh car or taking a walk in teh park.
Football players know that teh game is violent and dangerous and they know teh risks taken.
That is teh real issue.
Regards...
... an'at
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NO Fine... Massiq ?? hmmm... Maybe but probably Not. Cribbs NO WAY . Hes a Runningback at that Point. And Runningback are NOT A Protected species in the NFL !!
I agree on Cribbs. I don't think Harrison did anything wrong on that play. He was just trying to make a play.
I think the MoMss hit will get him fined. I don't think he was trying to be dirty on that play, but, the NFL has it's rules and that one was close enough that when you add in what happened to Cribbs the NFL is probably going to seek a contribution to their general fund.
I agree on Cribbs. I don't think Harrison did anything wrong on that play. He was just trying to make a play.
I think the MoMss hit will get him fined. I don't think he was trying to be dirty on that play, but, the NFL has it's rules and that one was close enough that when you add in what happened to Cribbs the NFL is probably going to seek a contribution to their general fund.
Wow. Someone actually being honest and understands the game is quick and violent. The way it is supposed to be.
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in a sport that was meant to be violent.
aggressiveness is the nfl. playing hard is the nfl. violence is smacking your girl around and getting arrested for assault.
aggressiveness is the nfl. playing hard is the nfl. violence is smacking your girl around and getting arrested for assault.
I said violent, not violence. It is supposed to be a violent sport. You take away the hard hits, you take away the game. The more they make rules that stop violent hits the more the game suffers. If you want a safe game play bocce.
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Wow. Just got invited to my first "FIRE ROGER GODELL" facebook group. Guess who made it? A Steelers fan.
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If anything goes with the steelers, I say the first time Hiney Ward catches a pass, the db's go for his knees and take one out completely.
Self-defense is justified now.
I'd grab Troy PollyisaGirlieMan's hair, and fling him ten yards.
After, the steelers want to play rough? Wait til they come to Cleveland....
paybacks are in order. Sad to see my friend Rich defending the putspuke headhunters....
After, the steelers want to play rough? Wait til they come to Cleveland....
paybacks are in order.
WTF??? What are the Brownies going to do, hit us with their purse??? Our backups will be in, and we STILL will be favored by +3 in the Puppy Pound.....you guys keep whining about the refs, meantime we'll be bringing home Lombardi #7.
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aggressiveness is the nfl. playing hard is the nfl. violence is smacking your girl around and getting arrested for assault.
I said violent, not violence. It is supposed to be a violent sport. You take away the hard hits, you take away the game. The more they make rules that stop violent hits the more the game suffers. If you want a safe game play bocce.
I said violent, not violence. It is supposed to be a violent sport. You take away the hard hits, you take away the game. The more they make rules that stop violent hits the more the game suffers. If you want a safe game play bocce.
Or an accordion.
Regards...
... an'at
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
Yeah, how many Steelers had live altering experiences after all their head injuries? Merril Hoge still comes out swinging when the pizza delivery boy rigs the doorbell. MIke Webster met a tragic end supposedly because of head injury induced depression.Harrison purposely lead with his head, and he didn't have to. That is what makes this guy even more despicable.
Steroids, lighter equipment, better training, more competition and better fields all contribute to faster, more violent impacts. WHile guys have much more lean muscle today, their spines are no different than the guys playing in the 60's. There's your problem.
It's fun to be Jack Lambert and put dresses on the sissies who don't want to get hit, isn't it? Especially when it's your rivals getting hurt. Well, sooner or later Steeler Vermin, it's going to happen to one of your own, hell, with HArrison leading with his head so much, he's a prime suspect for taking one not quite right.
Or wait, maybe he has a special kind of spinal chord that doens't crack, eh? Wow, he's superman.............
As far as Steve Young goes, he is a prime example of why the Commissioner needs to change things. Football players know nothing else but playing ball, They will play well beyond teh voice of reason when further hits could ruin their lives. Young was getting a concussion every time someone yelled "COLD BEER HERE" and still, he insisted that he was fine.
My problem with this Commissioner is that he is only half committed. Letting Vick back in was sickening. Reducing PeePeeburgers suspension because he promised to be good was also BS. THe NFL has done a lot of things that piss fans off, like curtailing celebrations and not showing bad behavior................... BUT........... the NFL continues to grow. So don't worry about nobody showing up.
Steeler fans? Yeah, you guys are Johnny come lately and don't even know your own history, let alone appreciating the fraternity of the NFL. Left up to you the NFL would be an unrooly, violent shithole. That is of course, until it was YOUR guys who started getting hurt, THEN, you scum would be the first ones to cry foul.
Thank you for teh reply, but you failed to understand teh point.
Football is a dangerous sport. So is driving teh car or taking a walk in teh park.
Football players know that teh game is violent and dangerous and they know teh risks taken.
That is teh real issue.
Regards...
... an'at
.
Thank you for the reply, but you failed to understand the point.
Football is a dangerous sport. So is driving the car or taking a walk in the park.
Football players know that the game is violent and dangerous and they know the risks taken.
That is the real issue.
Regards...
... an'at
.
Look, this isn't just ragging about Harrison. Didn't see the Falcons hit- but I hate the Ravens, and that shot on Todd Heap was BS.
Maybe too late, but the League is trying to avoid hits on players that will eventually get someone else paralyzed or killed. Memo to Mr Harrison- leading with your helmet in the future is going to get you suspended.
The physics is Force=Mass X Acceleration and players are way bigger and faster than they were 30-40 years ago. Dick Modelewski played defensive end for the Browns back in the 60s and weighed 230 pounds- that's a small saftey in today's NFL.
Ghoolie's 100% correct- peoples spinal columns aren't any stronger than back then, and they're getting hit with way more force. I posted it in another thread- Cribbs is lucky he didn't get his neck broken from that shot the way he was hit.
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Yes football is a violent sport. Why don't the players just carry guns with them too?
Oh Harrison shot cribbs? oh there's no rule against that in the NFL, he just can't tackle so what else could he do
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Thank you for the reply, but you failed to understand the point.
Football is a dangerous sport. So is driving the car or taking a walk in the park.
Football players know that the game is violent and dangerous and they know the risks taken.
That is the real issue.
Regards...
... an'at
.
Look, this isn't just ragging about Harrison. Didn't see the Falcons hit- but I hate the Ravens, and that shot on Todd Heap was BS.
Maybe too late, but the League is trying to avoid hits on players that will eventually get someone else paralyzed or killed. Memo to Mr Harrison- leading with your helmet in the future is going to get you suspended.
The physics is Force=Mass X Acceleration and players are way bigger and faster than they were 30-40 years ago. Dick Modelewski played defensive end for the Browns back in the 60s and weighed 230 pounds- that's a small saftey in today's NFL.
Ghoolie's 100% correct- peoples spinal columns aren't any stronger than back then, and they're getting hit with way more force. I posted it in another thread- Cribbs is lucky he didn't get his neck broken from that shot the way he was hit.
Look, this isn't just ragging about Harrison. Didn't see the Falcons hit- but I hate the Ravens, and that shot on Todd Heap was BS.
Maybe too late, but the League is trying to avoid hits on players that will eventually get someone else paralyzed or killed. Memo to Mr Harrison- leading with your helmet in the future is going to get you suspended.
The physics is Force=Mass X Acceleration and players are way bigger and faster than they were 30-40 years ago. Dick Modelewski played defensive end for the Browns back in the 60s and weighed 230 pounds- that's a small saftey in today's NFL.
Ghoolie's 100% correct- peoples spinal columns aren't any stronger than back then, and they're getting hit with way more force. I posted it in another thread- Cribbs is lucky he didn't get his neck broken from that shot the way he was hit.
I don't have a problem with the defenseless receiver helmet to helmet rule. That's fine, but when you start calling helmet to helmet on RB's, at what point is a fine/penalty defined?
Just the ugly plays?
Against the better team?
What's next - no helmet to helmet on O and D linemen?
This is clearly a knee-jerk reaction to what needs to be a thought out issue.
That's my point.
Regards...
... an'at
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Yep, what goes around comes around, you play hard you hit hard and you win hard, on the other hand you whine hard you whine more and lose more
Stopt the whining and start the hitting
Yep, what goes around comes around, you play hard you hit hard and you win hard, on the other hand you whine hard you whine more and lose more
Stopt the whining and start the hitting
Rich, I have no problems with a guy hitting people as hard as they can- legally. Harrison- from his comments- isn't just about hitting opposing players hard- the trolls can defend him- but the goon is clearly out to not just hit people, but injure them.
Considering he already got fined once this year for the hit on Vince Young, I'll put the over\under on his fine at $25,000 and I'll take the over. Maybe when someone else rings Harrison's bell and makes him take an involuntary "nap" on the field, he'll see things a little differently.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
Yeah, how many Steelers had live altering experiences after all their head injuries? Merril Hoge still comes out swinging when the pizza delivery boy rigs the doorbell. MIke Webster met a tragic end supposedly because of head injury induced depression.Harrison purposely lead with his head, and he didn't have to. That is what makes this guy even more despicable.
Steroids, lighter equipment, better training, more competition and better fields all contribute to faster, more violent impacts. WHile guys have much more lean muscle today, their spines are no different than the guys playing in the 60's. There's your problem.
It's fun to be Jack Lambert and put dresses on the sissies who don't want to get hit, isn't it? Especially when it's your rivals getting hurt. Well, sooner or later Steeler Vermin, it's going to happen to one of your own, hell, with HArrison leading with his head so much, he's a prime suspect for taking one not quite right.
Or wait, maybe he has a special kind of spinal chord that doens't crack, eh? Wow, he's superman.............
As far as Steve Young goes, he is a prime example of why the Commissioner needs to change things. Football players know nothing else but playing ball, They will play well beyond teh voice of reason when further hits could ruin their lives. Young was getting a concussion every time someone yelled "COLD BEER HERE" and still, he insisted that he was fine.
My problem with this Commissioner is that he is only half committed. Letting Vick back in was sickening. Reducing PeePeeburgers suspension because he promised to be good was also BS. THe NFL has done a lot of things that piss fans off, like curtailing celebrations and not showing bad behavior................... BUT........... the NFL continues to grow. So don't worry about nobody showing up.
Steeler fans? Yeah, you guys are Johnny come lately and don't even know your own history, let alone appreciating the fraternity of the NFL. Left up to you the NFL would be an unrooly, violent shithole. That is of course, until it was YOUR guys who started getting hurt, THEN, you scum would be the first ones to cry foul.
If a STEELERS player gets hurt because of the game... so be it. Nobody is immune to injury. But the game is supposed to be violent. It's what made this game and why we play the game and watch the game. You take away the hard hits, you take away football. The NFL should get rid of Goodell, he is xxxxing the game up.
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I agree on Cribbs. I don't think Harrison did anything wrong on that play. He was just trying to make a play.
I think the MoMss hit will get him fined. I don't think he was trying to be dirty on that play, but, the NFL has it's rules and that one was close enough that when you add in what happened to Cribbs the NFL is probably going to seek a contribution to their general fund.
Wow. Someone actually being honest and understands the game is quick and violent. The way it is supposed to be.
Wow. Someone actually being honest and understands the game is quick and violent. The way it is supposed to be.
It's violent alright- and the Commish's office just laid down the law against it getting TOO violent. There was plenty of thuggery on Sunday- and Harrison wasn't the only perpetrator.
There's ways to effectively separate a receiver from the ball without trying to take his head off.
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Well the crying has finally paid off. Football is ruined. No more hard hits are allowed, anyone tagging a receiver going across the middle is going to get suspended. Thank You very much for destroying the second professional sport in this country. Baseball was first, now it's football's turn.
The NFL will announce by Wednesday that, effective this weekend, even first-time offenders face suspension for "devastating hits" and "head shots," according to Ray Anderson, the league's executive vice president of football operations.
I guess the players should just take off the uniforms and sit down to a nice game of tiddly winks. Football was a contact sport, but contact is no longer allowed. A truly sad, sad day.
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mikeyP72 said:
Maybe UFC will take away head shots soon.Oh it is not just head shots, its any devastating hit. There are no distinctions.
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Lets put you in pads and see how your viewpoint changes.
let's see when the Steelers best players get knocked out because of a cheap shots and costs them the game
let's see when the Steelers best players get knocked out because of a cheap shots and costs them the game
Cost you the game? You were still losing that game, what did either player do up to that point? How about absolutely nothing. I also can't believe the league took this step. Its a joke and will change the game forever. It really is a sad day.
Cost them the game he says, lmao.
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