Head-to-Head Hits & New Rule Discussion
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Well the crying has finally paid off. Football is ruined. No more hard hits are allowed, anyone tagging a receiver going across the middle is going to get suspended. Thank You very much for destroying the second professional sport in this country. Baseball was first, now it's football's turn.
The NFL will announce by Wednesday that, effective this weekend, even first-time offenders face suspension for "devastating hits" and "head shots," according to Ray Anderson, the league's executive vice president of football operations.
I guess the players should just take off the uniforms and sit down to a nice game of tiddly winks. Football was a contact sport, but contact is no longer allowed. A truly sad, sad day.
I think the new rule can be a good thing. You stay from shooting for the head and that's about it (of course for late hits after the whistle). I really don't care to see someone in a wheel chair for the rest of their lives. If everyone can rip the head off, pretty soon you'll be seeing nothing but 4th stringers out there, because all the good players are in rehab.
I think the new rule can be a good thing. You stay from shooting for the head and that's about it (of course for late hits after the whistle). I really don't care to see someone in a wheel chair for the rest of their lives. If everyone can rip the head off, pretty soon you'll be seeing nothing but 4th stringers out there, because all the good players are in rehab.
When I was in Boston last year I noticed a huge sign visible from the highway. It declared one of the hospitals 'the official rehab hospital of the New England Patriots." Any job that requires an "official rehab hospital" SHOULD seriously reconsider how it functions. No amount of money is worth the pain and suffering some individuals and families will have to endure as a result of player injuries.
I don't understand why some people think football will suddenly become boring when devastating, life-threatening hits are eliminated. I may be naive but I like to think we've become more civilized than the ancient Romans who cheered death in the coliseum.
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Blatant head to head shots, ok I can see that, but would someone please tell me what the hell a devastating hit is?
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Matt Millen said it the best. If they change this rule, they screw the game of football and all the fans. He was pissed as are most of the players who are being interviewed about this new rule.
Atenears, you really should take up a nicer sport like bocce`. More your cup of tea.
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At least the browns players have some balls and admit that it was not a dirty hit and is a part of the game. You people who want a pussified version of this game should watch flag football.
We want the same rules to apply to our opponents as apply to our players. When our player made a similar play, he was flagged immediately and heavily fined. Your player has yet to receiver either.
With the penalty now increasing, who do you think has a better chance of falling prey to this new punishment? Your team which seems to ALWAYS get away with this type of shit, or ours who get flagged for every push, love tap, and close call?
In that regard, the sport was already ruined ... welcome to YOUR aftermath.
We want the same rules to apply to our opponents as apply to our players. When our player made a similar play, he was flagged immediately and heavily fined. Your player has yet to receiver either.
With the penalty now increasing, who do you think has a better chance of falling prey to this new punishment? Your team which seems to ALWAYS get away with this type of shit, or ours who get flagged for every push, love tap, and close call?
In that regard, the sport was already ruined ... welcome to YOUR aftermath.
Because as your own team players said... there was nothing illegal about that hit. It was clean. Get over it. You whinners will ruin this game. Go get your skirt girl.
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Matt Millen said it the best. If they change this rule, they screw the game of football and all the fans. He was pissed as are most of the players who are being interviewed about this new rule.
Atenears, you really should take up a nicer sport like bocce`. More your cup of tea.
Matt Millen said it the best. If they change this rule, they screw the game of football and all the fans. He was pissed as are most of the players who are being interviewed about this new rule.
Atenears, you really should take up a nicer sport like bocce`. More your cup of tea.
i take it you dont know any other way to tackle other than to smack one person's helmet with yours ? You see a lot of fans slating Harrison, Do u see them slating Troy Polamalu ? He is a probowler and a tackler and the way he plays seems to be more like he plays to stop the offense not to drive the person into a coma.
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Matt Millen said it the best. If they change this rule, they screw the game of football and all the fans. He was pissed as are most of the players who are being interviewed about this new rule.
Atenears, you really should take up a nicer sport like bocce`. More your cup of tea.
Atenears, you really should take up a nicer sport like bocce`. More your cup of tea.
Hey that reminds me. I was looking for a way to make a little extra scratch on the side. Do you think prisoner trading cards would go over as huge in Pittsburgh as I do? The Pittsburgh Children could trade for their favorite role models during recess and lunch ...
This hasn't been implimented in Pittsburgh yet has it?
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At least the browns players have some balls and admit that it was not a dirty hit and is a part of the game. You people who want a pussified version of this game should watch flag football.
At least the browns players have some balls and admit that it was not a dirty hit and is a part of the game. You people who want a pussified version of this game should watch flag football.
i think we should put u in a browns uniform and throw u against Harrison
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let's see when the Steelers best players get knocked out because of a cheap shots and costs them the game
McGinest's hit on Ben had helmet-to-helmet contact.......
All of Goodell's actions he has taken so far as Commish all have been done to help set up his plan to increase revenue by forcing players to play 18 games. The NFL is currently too rough to have players playing 18+ meaningful games. Goodell knows the 18 games schedule he is cramming down everyone's throught harder than Obama and his bailouts will only week if the game is softened.
McGinest's hit on Ben had helmet-to-helmet contact.......
All of Goodell's actions he has taken so far as Commish all have been done to help set up his plan to increase revenue by forcing players to play 18 games. The NFL is currently too rough to have players playing 18+ meaningful games. Goodell knows the 18 games schedule he is cramming down everyone's throught harder than Obama and his bailouts will only week if the game is softened.
Scooby doo I dont want to exploit the players by making them play 2 extra games but I dont mind them getting hammered and wasted for life after they suffer a severe injury. I really care about players .... really !!!!!!
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Some of these guys dont know how to tackle. They think they are superman and can roadblock them down. And the Larger receivers, tight ends and so on bounce off and run down the field.
Try and roadblock down a Hillis and you will get ran over.
Watch our LB's everyone of these guys know how to tackle and they never give up on a play.
Time for fundamentals.
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After, the steelers want to play rough? Wait til they come to Cleveland....
paybacks are in order.
WTF??? What are the Brownies going to do, hit us with their purse??? Our backups will be in, and we STILL will be favored by +3 in the Puppy Pound.....you guys keep whining about the refs, meantime we'll be bringing home Lombardi #7.
WTF??? What are the Brownies going to do, hit us with their purse??? Our backups will be in, and we STILL will be favored by +3 in the Puppy Pound.....you guys keep whining about the refs, meantime we'll be bringing home Lombardi #7.
No Lombardi - The only thing u guys will bring in with Harrison is a dead body ! maybe they will finally lockup the murderer but i think the Rooney football League and his puppet Goddell will find ways to defend that too
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yea, on sportscenter they did just make the best point about this and why currently this rule is ridiculous. The rule right now is any "devastating" hit is grounds for suspension. However, there are absolutely zero guidelines on what makes a hit devastating, therefore making it completely subjective. I don't see how you can mandate such a serious rule like that and not set precise rules. I expect to see a lot of suspensions coming soon
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If anything goes with the steelers, I say the first time Hiney Ward catches a pass, the db's go for his knees and take one out completely.
Self-defense is justified now.
I'd grab Troy PollyisaGirlieMan's hair, and fling him ten yards.
After, the steelers want to play rough? Wait til they come to Cleveland....
paybacks are in order. Sad to see my friend Rich defending the putspuke headhunters....
If anything goes with the steelers, I say the first time Hiney Ward catches a pass, the db's go for his knees and take one out completely.
Self-defense is justified now.
I'd grab Troy PollyisaGirlieMan's hair, and fling him ten yards.
After, the steelers want to play rough? Wait til they come to Cleveland....
paybacks are in order. Sad to see my friend Rich defending the putspuke headhunters....
Yea, just wait till the come here! We are going to whine about the hits and complain about the refs, so loud, they won't know what hit em!
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NOTE: The abundance of threads on the subject of destructive hits and the NFL's new rule to curb such hits, have be consolidated into this ONE THREAD at 10:00am EST.
We do not want to downgrade this topic as non-important, but there are just too many threads started on this one subject and we would like to allow all the opportunity to discuss other topics, the upcoming games, and other aspects of the Cleveland Browns.This single thread will be available to continue discussion, and in one simple easy-to-follow single thread format.
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Here is the simple fact on the subject, Hits like this cost the NFL money.
Players like Desean Jackson going down for a few weeks because of a hit like this costs money for the NFL because they lose a marquee player. They lose a guy that lights up the highlight reels and gives the shows like "The OT" and "The RedZone" someone to talk about.
You think they give a rats ass about Mo Mass?
I can pretty much guarantee that if that hit on Jackson hadn't happened this weekend there would be no talk of any of this from the league.
If Harrison would have power bombed Tom Brady a few weeks ago like he did Vince Young, they would have called time out on the field and had him arrested and thrown in jail. Vinny doesn't even warrant a flag being thrown. Yet the hit was enough to draw a fine AFTER the game. Go figure.
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A Pittsburgh Steelers fan perspective:
1. Yes, I feel there should be some action taken for Harrison's hit on Joshua Cribbs. Helmet to helmet hits are ALWAYS a no-no!
2. The hit on Massaquoi? I'll end up agreeing with what the league puts out. Contrary to Solomon Wilcots calling, the hit was not helmet to helmet but there IS a chance the NFL may rule that he was defenseless.
I obviously like having James Harrison on our team and love his skill and intensity. HOWEVER, he may need to change something in his play so a player doesn't get critically injured. A player at Rutgers was paralyzed from the neck down this weekend, that should put things in perspective.
As for his comments: "I don't care if I hurt players, I just don't want to injure them" TRANSLATION: Its football and the game hurts, what he says is he doesn't mind the hurt because its part of the game but he N-E-V-E-R wants to intentionally take someone out of the game or threaten their career (for what its worth, there is a difference)
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The steelers and their ignorant fans who support ben rocksforbrainsbooger and cheapshot harrison suck rotten eggs.
The NFL will, imho, suspend harrison.
When steeler "any violence goes" comes back around to haunt you steeler fans who support it....
do NOT come here and cry "unfair". It will be a payback, several times over.
steeler trolls and dirty steelers stink up this forum, and they probably kill fish in the rivers near the stadium.
steelers don't play football. they play thugball and terroristball.
okay, so the steeler trolls and steelers don't really suck rotten eggs.
They really, really, really, really suck rotten eggs.
The steelers mistake is... they still have to play the Browns again, in Cleveland.
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The steelers and their ignorant fans who support ben rocksforbrainsbooger and cheapshot harrison suck rotten eggs.
The NFL will, imho, suspend harrison.
When steeler "any violence goes" comes back around to haunt you steeler fans who support it....
do NOT come here and cry "unfair". It will be a payback, several times over.
steeler trolls and dirty steelers stink up this forum, and they probably kill fish in the rivers near the stadium.
steelers don't play football. they play thugball and terroristball.
okay, so the steeler trolls and steelers don't really suck rotten eggs.
They really, really, really, really suck rotten eggs.
The steelers mistake is... they still have to play the Browns again, in Cleveland.
The steelers and their ignorant fans who support ben rocksforbrainsbooger and cheapshot harrison suck rotten eggs.
The NFL will, imho, suspend harrison.
When steeler "any violence goes" comes back around to haunt you steeler fans who support it....
do NOT come here and cry "unfair". It will be a payback, several times over.
steeler trolls and dirty steelers stink up this forum, and they probably kill fish in the rivers near the stadium.
steelers don't play football. they play thugball and terroristball.
okay, so the steeler trolls and steelers don't really suck rotten eggs.
They really, really, really, really suck rotten eggs.
The steelers mistake is... they still have to play the Browns again, in Cleveland.
Then make me the exception, read what I wrote right above you...
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since when was the game about smacking someone in the skull and not about stopping someone from getting to the endzone. big hits are fine just don't hit someone in the head.
would you like to wake up one morning 15-20 years after retirement and not remember your kids names, your grandkids names. think about it and understand its about lives after football.
to everyone who says the game has become soft. go put your elf on the line for 5+ years sure the money will be ok but what about all the pain. if you wind up in a wheelchair with a feeding tube you'd be saying the game needs to be fixed.
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Then make me the exception, read what I wrote right above you... Go'lers
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Yes, I wouldn't include you in that rant... @@... it's more the trouble making trolls that were the point...
But the NFL has to take -unnecessary roughness- to the point of outlawing any direct hit by a helmet, period.
I forget who said it on TV, but it's a great idea - coat the helmets with foam, to avoid the violent impact.
But leading with the head is stupid, and a player crippler. Sometimes, it's the hitter that is sorry for the rest of his life,
because it ended up HIS permanent injury.
BTW, there have been some classy, honest Steeler fans around here, and it's fun to bicker with them about the games...
but the other stuff isn't worth reading.
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