Head-to-Head Hits & New Rule Discussion
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What no one is talking about it the reaction of Harrison afterwards. As soon as he struck MoMass he got up and acted like he had just saved the world. arrogant.
Oh my God. A defender celebrated a big hit. Unprecedented.......
Oh my God. A defender celebrated a big hit. Unprecedented.......
While the guy he hit lay on the ground injured.....might not be unprecedented but no less a completely shit move by a guy $75,000 lighter in the wallet.
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Oh my God. A defender celebrated a big hit. Unprecedented.......
While the guy he hit lay on the ground injured.....might not be unprecedented but no less a completely shit move by a guy $75,000 lighter in the wallet.
While the guy he hit lay on the ground injured.....might not be unprecedented but no less a completely shit move by a guy $75,000 lighter in the wallet.
If he celebrated "As soon as he struck MoMass" (just asTheClevelandSound said) he would have not known he was injured......My dog is smarter than you.
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it's about leaving your feet and launching yourself as a projectile. half of these guys don't even know how to tackle, they just know how to hit. you see it in college all the time now. instead of trying the tackle the guy they throw themselves at the player trying to dislodge the ball or blow someone up. my friends and i comment on it all the time because half the time it's unsuccessful and the guy bounces off the guy with the ball and he runs for a touchdown. "why didn't he wrap the guy up and tackle him!" we scream. half of it is coaching and half of it is the defensive guy wanting to make the highlights by knocking someone out and being billy badass for a day. i heard someone mention that the league will start fining the organizations along with the individual offenders. good. and they should pass it along to the D coordinator and he should pass it on to the position coaches if they continue to coach this.
don't give me the old "THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TAUGHT ALL OUR LIVES" bullshit either. these hits were few and far in between while i was growing up. most players knew how to TACKLE and did so. sure there were some goons. how do think tatum felt paralizing stingley for the rest of his life? i gues with harrison's mentality he would laugh.
if you are not smart enough to relearn it the right way then get the F out the league.
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harrison an average player? since when? Nfl defensive player of the year, 2 time super bowl champ, universally acknowledged as one of the premier players in the league, outside of cleveland of course. Cleveland hasn't produced a player of his caliber since jim brown. All that region could do was hurl racial slurs at him when he grew up there in high school.
Oh, don't be stupid. First, the guy went to HS only about 2 miles from where I sit. I could walk there from here if I wanted. If he was being thrown racial slurs it was by all the other African-Americans saying "N____ this or N_____that" just the way they do. There were plenty of other blacks at that school and in the surrounding area.
As for what he would be, like I said before, I think he is a system LB. He does well in that system. LeBeau makes him good. The test would be how he would perform elsewhere.
Oh, don't be stupid. First, the guy went to HS only about 2 miles from where I sit. I could walk there from here if I wanted. If he was being thrown racial slurs it was by all the other African-Americans saying "N____ this or N_____that" just the way they do. There were plenty of other blacks at that school and in the surrounding area.
As for what he would be, like I said before, I think he is a system LB. He does well in that system. LeBeau makes him good. The test would be how he would perform elsewhere
.Enough with the system bs. What makes a outside linebacker successful? Speed, power, drive, football smarts. You can't teach any of those things. Implying he wouldn't do what he's doing outside of the Steeler organization is laughably short sighted and bias. You hate the Steelers, I get it and so do a lot of fan bases. Joey Porter did just fine in Miami and Pittsburgh pays the guys worth keeping and let's the other guys walk. Porter was cut loose because of Harrison. You'll never know how the top tier defenders on our defense will do in another system while they are in their prime because we pay to keep them around. When they take a walk it's either because they've lost a step or we have a better replacement.
Defensive player of the year is "average" and a "system LB" one of the funniest things I've read all year, seriously. I spit out my Dr. Pepper.
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it's about leaving your feet and launching yourself as a projectile. half of these guys don't even know how to tackle, they just know how to hit. you see it in college all the time now. instead of trying the tackle the guy they throw themselves at the player trying to dislodge the ball or blow someone up. my friends and i comment on it all the time because half the time it's unsuccessful and the guy bounces off the guy with the ball and he runs for a touchdown. "why didn't he wrap the guy up and tackle him!" we scream. half of it is coaching and half of it is the defensive guy wanting to make the highlights by knocking someone out and being billy badass for a day. i heard someone mention that the league will start fining the organizations along with the individual offenders. good. and they should pass it along to the D coordinator and he should pass it on to the position coaches if they continue to coach this.
don't give me the old "THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TAUGHT ALL OUR LIVES" bullshit either. these hits were few and far in between while i was growing up. most players knew how to TACKLE and did so. sure there were some goons. how do think tatum felt paralizing stingley for the rest of his life? i gues with harrison's mentality he would laugh.
if you are not smart enough to relearn it the right way then get the F out the league.
it's about leaving your feet and launching yourself as a projectile. half of these guys don't even know how to tackle, they just know how to hit. you see it in college all the time now. instead of trying the tackle the guy they throw themselves at the player trying to dislodge the ball or blow someone up. my friends and i comment on it all the time because half the time it's unsuccessful and the guy bounces off the guy with the ball and he runs for a touchdown. "why didn't he wrap the guy up and tackle him!" we scream. half of it is coaching and half of it is the defensive guy wanting to make the highlights by knocking someone out and being billy badass for a day. i heard someone mention that the league will start fining the organizations along with the individual offenders. good. and they should pass it along to the D coordinator and he should pass it on to the position coaches if they continue to coach this.
don't give me the old "THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TAUGHT ALL OUR LIVES" bullshit either. these hits were few and far in between while i was growing up. most players knew how to TACKLE and did so. sure there were some goons. how do think tatum felt paralizing stingley for the rest of his life? i gues with harrison's mentality he would laugh.
if you are not smart enough to relearn it the right way then get the F out the league.
That should be and is completely illegal. No one is questioning why those hits are banned. It the fact that Goodell is fining and wants to suspend players for hits that will simply always be a part of tackle football that people are made about.
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Lets play ball guys and make the hits instead of receiving the hits................
It is about winning not whining
otherwise, I got it figured let's rename the Dawg Pound the Pussy Pound
until we stop threads like this with oodles of whining ...............
we will remain the leagues doormat
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so how much is Massaquoi going to be fined? Here is why I am saying this. Check out these stills.
Notice Harrison has his legs bent
Now notice Harrison still has his legs bent. and Massaquoi is lowering his head, as evidenced by the obvious bend in his back from the still. Now here is the kicker, James Harrison is only 6'0" and Massaquoi is 6'1". This is a case of a linebacker lining up to make a hit at chest level, but the receiver, or ball carrier lowering his head to make contact.
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so how much is Massaquoi going to be fined? Here is why I am saying this. Check out these stills.
Notice Harrison has his legs bent
Now notice Harrison still has his legs bent. and Massaquoi is lowering his head, as evidenced by the obvious bend in his back from the still. Now here is the kicker, James Harrison is only 6'0" and Massaquoi is 6'1". This is a case of a linebacker lining up to make a hit at chest level, but the receiver, or ball carrier lowering his head to make contact.
so how much is Massaquoi going to be fined? Here is why I am saying this. Check out these stills.
Notice Harrison has his legs bent
Now notice Harrison still has his legs bent. and Massaquoi is lowering his head, as evidenced by the obvious bend in his back from the still. Now here is the kicker, James Harrison is only 6'0" and Massaquoi is 6'1". This is a case of a linebacker lining up to make a hit at chest level, but the receiver, or ball carrier lowering his head to make contact.
That's the point. There was no place hit Massaquoi without being called dirty... Would you rather Harrison dive at his knees? Look how low Massaquoi was, at full speed mind you, when they collided. Had Massaquoi been standing straight up, that would have been a forearm-to-shoulder hit. Harrison didn't drive up through Massaquoi's chin strap like Brandon Merriweather did to Heap this weekend. Scott Fujita seems to agree the hits were legal.
Browns' Fujita calls league stance on hits hypocritical
Fujita - basically saying the league is being hypocritical for selling the big hit as part of the game, and now trying to suspend players for that big hit.
"The same league that's talking about fining players for these hits and talking about maybe now suspending players for these hits who pretends to care so much about our health and safety, let's be honest," Fujita said. "They don't give a crap. Let's be perfectly honest about that.
"Eighteen games is asking a lot. And 18 games now without even a discussion about changing the vesting requirements for post-career medical. It's pretty astonishing. Another thing, too. This league is talking so much about these big hits and how they're trying to prevent that and protect the players. Well these are the same big hits they're showing around the clock on every [channel], NFL Network and everything else and trying to get everyone hyped up about the game of football......
Well why are you advertising all of this stuff if it's against the rules? Same thing with some of these celebration penalties and everything else. They're fining guys like crazy for it and calling penalties, but that's the stuff they use to promote their games. So to me, it's kind of a weird deal. They need to get on the same page and figure out exactly what they need to do."
Fujita didn't feel the criticisms of Harrison's shots were justified. Fujita said even though people in Cleveland and around the NFL are in an uproar with Harrison's hits on the Browns' Mohamed Massaquoi and Josh Cribbs, Fujita said he felt like they were "pretty good defensive plays."
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/1415597...ts-hypocritical
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so how much is Massaquoi going to be fined? Here is why I am saying this. Check out these stills.
Notice Harrison has his legs bent
Now notice Harrison still has his legs bent. and Massaquoi is lowering his head, as evidenced by the obvious bend in his back from the still. Now here is the kicker, James Harrison is only 6'0" and Massaquoi is 6'1". This is a case of a linebacker lining up to make a hit at chest level, but the receiver, or ball carrier lowering his head to make contact.
That's the point. There was no place hit Massaquoi without being called dirty... Would you rather Harrison dive at his knees? Look how low Massaquoi was, at full speed mind you, when they collided. Had Massaquoi been standing straight up, that would have been a forearm-to-shoulder hit. Harrison didn't drive up through Massaquoi's chin strap like Brandon Merriweather did to Heap this weekend. Scott Fujita seems to agree the hits were legal.
Browns' Fujita calls league stance on hits hypocritical
Fujita - basically saying the league is being hypocritical for selling the big hit as part of the game, and now trying to suspend players for that big hit.
"The same league that's talking about fining players for these hits and talking about maybe now suspending players for these hits who pretends to care so much about our health and safety, let's be honest," Fujita said. "They don't give a crap. Let's be perfectly honest about that.
"Eighteen games is asking a lot. And 18 games now without even a discussion about changing the vesting requirements for post-career medical. It's pretty astonishing. Another thing, too. This league is talking so much about these big hits and how they're trying to prevent that and protect the players. Well these are the same big hits they're showing around the clock on every [channel], NFL Network and everything else and trying to get everyone hyped up about the game of football......
Well why are you advertising all of this stuff if it's against the rules? Same thing with some of these celebration penalties and everything else. They're fining guys like crazy for it and calling penalties, but that's the stuff they use to promote their games. So to me, it's kind of a weird deal. They need to get on the same page and figure out exactly what they need to do."
Fujita didn't feel the criticisms of Harrison's shots were justified. Fujita said even though people in Cleveland and around the NFL are in an uproar with Harrison's hits on the Browns' Mohamed Massaquoi and Josh Cribbs, Fujita said he felt like they were "pretty good defensive plays."
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/1415597...ts-hypocritical
That's the point. There was no place hit Massaquoi without being called dirty... Would you rather Harrison dive at his knees? Look how low Massaquoi was, at full speed mind you, when they collided. Had Massaquoi been standing straight up, that would have been a forearm-to-shoulder hit. Harrison didn't drive up through Massaquoi's chin strap like Brandon Merriweather did to Heap this weekend. Scott Fujita seems to agree the hits were legal.
Browns' Fujita calls league stance on hits hypocritical
Fujita - basically saying the league is being hypocritical for selling the big hit as part of the game, and now trying to suspend players for that big hit.
"The same league that's talking about fining players for these hits and talking about maybe now suspending players for these hits who pretends to care so much about our health and safety, let's be honest," Fujita said. "They don't give a crap. Let's be perfectly honest about that.
"Eighteen games is asking a lot. And 18 games now without even a discussion about changing the vesting requirements for post-career medical. It's pretty astonishing. Another thing, too. This league is talking so much about these big hits and how they're trying to prevent that and protect the players. Well these are the same big hits they're showing around the clock on every [channel], NFL Network and everything else and trying to get everyone hyped up about the game of football......
Well why are you advertising all of this stuff if it's against the rules? Same thing with some of these celebration penalties and everything else. They're fining guys like crazy for it and calling penalties, but that's the stuff they use to promote their games. So to me, it's kind of a weird deal. They need to get on the same page and figure out exactly what they need to do."
Fujita didn't feel the criticisms of Harrison's shots were justified. Fujita said even though people in Cleveland and around the NFL are in an uproar with Harrison's hits on the Browns' Mohamed Massaquoi and Josh Cribbs, Fujita said he felt like they were "pretty good defensive plays."
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/1415597...ts-hypocritical
Once again,....Steeler fans swingin' dead cats at nothin'...
Can't even keep the rules straight. Last time I checked, Scott Fujita wasn't the authority on the rules.
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That's the point. There was no place hit Massaquoi without being called dirty... Would you rather Harrison dive at his knees? Look how low Massaquoi was, at full speed mind you, when they collided. Had Massaquoi been standing straight up, that would have been a forearm-to-shoulder hit. Harrison didn't drive up through Massaquoi's chin strap like Brandon Merriweather did to Heap this weekend. Scott Fujita seems to agree the hits were legal.
Browns' Fujita calls league stance on hits hypocritical
Fujita - basically saying the league is being hypocritical for selling the big hit as part of the game, and now trying to suspend players for that big hit.
"The same league that's talking about fining players for these hits and talking about maybe now suspending players for these hits who pretends to care so much about our health and safety, let's be honest," Fujita said. "They don't give a crap. Let's be perfectly honest about that.
"Eighteen games is asking a lot. And 18 games now without even a discussion about changing the vesting requirements for post-career medical. It's pretty astonishing. Another thing, too. This league is talking so much about these big hits and how they're trying to prevent that and protect the players. Well these are the same big hits they're showing around the clock on every [channel], NFL Network and everything else and trying to get everyone hyped up about the game of football......
Well why are you advertising all of this stuff if it's against the rules? Same thing with some of these celebration penalties and everything else. They're fining guys like crazy for it and calling penalties, but that's the stuff they use to promote their games. So to me, it's kind of a weird deal. They need to get on the same page and figure out exactly what they need to do."
Fujita didn't feel the criticisms of Harrison's shots were justified. Fujita said even though people in Cleveland and around the NFL are in an uproar with Harrison's hits on the Browns' Mohamed Massaquoi and Josh Cribbs, Fujita said he felt like they were "pretty good defensive plays."
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/1415597...ts-hypocritical
Once again,....Steeler fans swingin' dead cats at nothin'...
Can't even keep the rules straight. Last time I checked, Scott Fujita wasn't the authority on the rules.
Once again,....Steeler fans swingin' dead cats at nothin'...
Can't even keep the rules straight. Last time I checked, Scott Fujita wasn't the authority on the rules.
Fujita was a team captian on the Saints and a Super Bowl champ as a starter. His opinion of Goodell's action carry a lot more wieght and are a lot more informed than any fan typing on the internet.
Fujita, Hillis and Docket of the Cardinals aren't Steeler fans and they have all came to the defense of Harrison's hits and opposed Goodell's suspension threats.
To some of you it's not about what's right and wrong. You will support anything that is harmful to the Steelers no matter how much BS it is. You will defend anything your team or players do no matter how wrong it was.
It's obvious the players are more concerned for the overall well being of the league, not just blind hatred or support for anything that would benefit them personally. I think it's great the players are sticking up for eachother becuase they feel it is what is right. They don't just ignore it because it hasn't yet effected them or because they might not necessarily like the person they are defending..
Goodell is forcing an 18 game season on the league and most players boldly oppose the change. Goodell is softening the league to justify putting the players through two more games.
It's just hard for me to me sympathetic toward Goodell's changes when players oppose it. Hillis is an offensive player opposing punishment for defenders making big hits. I think the fact that he is an offensive player holding the view point he does and defending Harrison's hits carries much more meaning than the fact that he is a Brown defending Harrison's hit.
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this isn't just about the hits at the time its about long term effects.
I've said it before these hits are to prevent mental problems down the line. head-shots need to stop.
to everyone saying of that's just football. your are wrong. football is about TACKLING someone, not blowing someone up. the NFL is the worst for having no fundamentals when it comes to TACKLING. and it just trickles down
if that happens than what are you gonna say oh hes just soft or that guy was a pansy. understand its not about today its about the future.
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this isn't just about the hits at the time its about long term effects.
I've said it before these hits are to prevent mental problems down the line. head-shots need to stop.
to everyone saying of that's just football. your are wrong. football is about TACKLING someone, not blowing someone up. the NFL is the worst for having no fundamentals when it comes to TACKLING. and it just trickles down
if that happens than what are you gonna say oh hes just soft or that guy was a pansy. understand its not about today its about the future.
this isn't just about the hits at the time its about long term effects.
I've said it before these hits are to prevent mental problems down the line. head-shots need to stop.
to everyone saying of that's just football. your are wrong. football is about TACKLING someone, not blowing someone up. the NFL is the worst for having no fundamentals when it comes to TACKLING. and it just trickles down
if that happens than what are you gonna say oh hes just soft or that guy was a pansy. understand its not about today its about the future.
Well said Drizzy
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this isn't just about the hits at the time its about long term effects.
I've said it before these hits are to prevent mental problems down the line. head-shots need to stop.
to everyone saying of that's just football. your are wrong. football is about TACKLING someone, not blowing someone up. the NFL is the worst for having no fundamentals when it comes to TACKLING. and it just trickles down
if that happens than what are you gonna say oh hes just soft or that guy was a pansy. understand its not about today its about the future.
this isn't just about the hits at the time its about long term effects.
I've said it before these hits are to prevent mental problems down the line. head-shots need to stop.
to everyone saying of that's just football. your are wrong. football is about TACKLING someone, not blowing someone up. the NFL is the worst for having no fundamentals when it comes to TACKLING. and it just trickles down
if that happens than what are you gonna say oh hes just soft or that guy was a pansy. understand its not about today its about the future.
The league has a lot of rules in place to keep players safe. I am in full support of those and the players are too. As a fan I understand it's easy to say Goodell is going overboard with safety and taking away excitement. I understand that. But when you have offensive and defensive players from all of the league saying Harrison's hit were okay and Goodell is going overboard with suspensions I tend to side with them. I feel confident the players know what's best for them so therefore I will usually be sympathetic to how they as a whole feel.
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He'll appeal it, pay some lesser amount and life goes on.
Good thing he didn't get suspended though, but how weak is the NFL? Fining players for legal hits, banning players for non-offenses.
And yinz have the balls to suggest the Steelers are paying off refs. We've gotten royally screwed by the NFL this year.
... and yet, we're at the top of the pecking order.
I bet that pisses yinz off something fierce.
Regards
... an'at
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He'll appeal it, pay some lesser amount and life goes on.
Good thing he didn't get suspended though, but how weak is the NFL? Fining players for legal hits, banning players for non-offenses.
And yinz have the balls to suggest the Steelers are paying off refs. We've gotten royally screwed by the NFL this year.
... and yet, we're at the top of the pecking order.
I bet that pisses yinz off something fierce.
Regards
... an'at
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He'll appeal it, pay some lesser amount and life goes on.
Good thing he didn't get suspended though, but how weak is the NFL? Fining players for legal hits, banning players for non-offenses.
And yinz have the balls to suggest the Steelers are paying off refs. We've gotten royally screwed by the NFL this year.
... and yet, we're at the top of the pecking order.
I bet that pisses yinz off something fierce.
Regards
... an'at
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Is your name Steelers SC hick or Steelers chick? Because if it's SC hick, then cool. That's where I live, and xxxx all you SC Steeler fans because I can't find a decent place to watch a Browns game.
This place is like Pittsburgh of the South.
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Here is a proposal to the NFL.
1. Running backs or receivers who lower their head to attempt to run through a tackler will be fined $50,000. The coaches who teach this will be fined $100,000.
2. Linebackers, or other defensive players who attempt to dislodge the football, or make a receiver afraid of coming into their territory by hitting them, will be fined $150,00
3. Any defensive player who weighs more than an offensive player cannot hit him. There will be weight checks before the game and a list will be given to the defensive players naming the players they are allowed to hit.
4. A receiver going across the middle, must be allowed to catch the ball and then run 10 yards, before a defensive player attempts to make contact.
5. Uniforms will be replaced with dresses, the refs will decide who is the sexiest and the team they play for will be spotted 14 points.
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this isn't just about the hits at the time its about long term effects.
I've said it before these hits are to prevent mental problems down the line. head-shots need to stop.
to everyone saying of that's just football. your are wrong. football is about TACKLING someone, not blowing someone up. the NFL is the worst for having no fundamentals when it comes to TACKLING. and it just trickles down
if that happens than what are you gonna say oh hes just soft or that guy was a pansy. understand its not about today its about the future.
this isn't just about the hits at the time its about long term effects.
I've said it before these hits are to prevent mental problems down the line. head-shots need to stop.
to everyone saying of that's just football. your are wrong. football is about TACKLING someone, not blowing someone up. the NFL is the worst for having no fundamentals when it comes to TACKLING. and it just trickles down
if that happens than what are you gonna say oh hes just soft or that guy was a pansy. understand its not about today its about the future.
i don't see anyone, anywhere defending Brandon Merriweather's hit... Harrison is getting all of this attention because he is a big name, plain and simple. The fact is Merriweather launched himself up and through the chin of Heap. Harrison lowered his shoulder and forearm and drove through Massaquoi in an attempt to dislodge the ball, which he did. Massaquoi lowered his upper body at the last second and Harrison ended up making contact with his head. Harrison was already bending his knees and lining up the shot by the time Massaquoi lowered his head. it's unfortunate for Massaquoi, but it happened. If McCoy makes a better throw and Massaquoi doesn't bobble that ball, he's running with the ball straight up and Harrison makes contact with his chest area on the hit. It would have still been a big hit because the receiver was led right into it by the QB, but there wouldn't have been head contact.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
The hit on Cribbs was equally dirty. You don't point the top of your helmet and charge at teh side of a guy's hear who is already in teh grasp and on his way to the ground.It doesn't matter what you Steeler faggots say, the bottom line is Hattison got fines AND CALLED OUT, don't forget that little tidbit........ CALLED OUT FOR BEING A REPEAT OFFENDER.
Harrison isn't a good player, IF you take away his dirty hits, he makes maybe 2 tackles per game.
THe guy smokes poles like Kordell Stewart does.
I would GLADLY fight Harrison 5-2 minute rounds, 8 ounce gloves, no head gear at the Browns stadium after the season. I need a little time, not much, to train.
If somebody knows this faggot bitch, call his agent and tell him Tommy Volinchak, AKA Ghoolie, at 56 years old will beat his big, clumsy, steroid induced ass into the Cleveland pavement. I knocked Mike Boswell on his ass and took hits from Ted Gullick. I'll smash this pussy worse than Too Tall Jones got it when he tried to box.
He ain't saying crap now, is he?
Internet tough guy? Or Troll? Maybe both?
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
The hit on Cribbs was equally dirty. You don't point the top of your helmet and charge at teh side of a guy's hear who is already in teh grasp and on his way to the ground.It doesn't matter what you Steeler faggots say, the bottom line is Hattison got fines AND CALLED OUT, don't forget that little tidbit........ CALLED OUT FOR BEING A REPEAT OFFENDER.
Harrison isn't a good player, IF you take away his dirty hits, he makes maybe 2 tackles per game.
THe guy smokes poles like Kordell Stewart does.
I would GLADLY fight Harrison 5-2 minute rounds, 8 ounce gloves, no head gear at the Browns stadium after the season. I need a little time, not much, to train.
If somebody knows this faggot bitch, call his agent and tell him Tommy Volinchak, AKA Ghoolie, at 56 years old will beat his big, clumsy, steroid induced ass into the Cleveland pavement. I knocked Mike Boswell on his ass and took hits from Ted Gullick. I'll smash this pussy worse than Too Tall Jones got it when he tried to box.
He ain't saying crap now, is he?
You're talking behind a keyboard. I am sure he would really give a shit even if he happened to somehow read your garbage.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
Yeah, how many Steelers had live altering experiences after all their head injuries? Merril Hoge still comes out swinging when the pizza delivery boy rigs the doorbell. MIke Webster met a tragic end supposedly because of head injury induced depression.Harrison purposely lead with his head, and he didn't have to. That is what makes this guy even more despicable.
Steroids, lighter equipment, better training, more competition and better fields all contribute to faster, more violent impacts. WHile guys have much more lean muscle today, their spines are no different than the guys playing in the 60's. There's your problem.
It's fun to be Jack Lambert and put dresses on the sissies who don't want to get hit, isn't it? Especially when it's your rivals getting hurt. Well, sooner or later Steeler Vermin, it's going to happen to one of your own, hell, with HArrison leading with his head so much, he's a prime suspect for taking one not quite right.
Or wait, maybe he has a special kind of spinal chord that doens't crack, eh? Wow, he's superman.............
As far as Steve Young goes, he is a prime example of why the Commissioner needs to change things. Football players know nothing else but playing ball, They will play well beyond teh voice of reason when further hits could ruin their lives. Young was getting a concussion every time someone yelled "COLD BEER HERE" and still, he insisted that he was fine.
My problem with this Commissioner is that he is only half committed. Letting Vick back in was sickening. Reducing PeePeeburgers suspension because he promised to be good was also BS. THe NFL has done a lot of things that piss fans off, like curtailing celebrations and not showing bad behavior................... BUT........... the NFL continues to grow. So don't worry about nobody showing up.
Steeler fans? Yeah, you guys are Johnny come lately and don't even know your own history, let alone appreciating the fraternity of the NFL. Left up to you the NFL would be an unrooly, violent shithole. That is of course, until it was YOUR guys who started getting hurt, THEN, you scum would be the first ones to cry foul.
Thank you for teh reply, but you failed to understand teh point.
Football is a dangerous sport. So is driving teh car or taking a walk in teh park.
Football players know that teh game is violent and dangerous and they know teh risks taken.
That is teh real issue.
Regards...
... an'at
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Thank you for teh reply, but you failed to understand teh point.
Football is a dangerous sport. So is driving teh car or taking a walk in teh park.
Football players know that teh game is violent and dangerous and they know teh risks taken.
That is teh real issue.
Regards...
... an'at
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Teh real issue is the fact that the NFL is talking out of both sides of their mouths. Just like Fujita said, they want to fine players for big hits, yet they show the same big hits on every channel in every top play countdown.
Big hits are part of the game, and let's face it....we all love them. Helmet to helmet hits are pretty black and white. There's always going to be a fine on them, and there always should be. But this new rule is basically including intent, and that's not as cut and dry to determine.
Did Harrison look like he intended to take off both Cribbs and MoMass' heads? Yeah. And that's the reason the NFL is fining him.
Did Harrison actually intend to knock these guys (near) unconscious? Yes and no. Hell, he's a defender. That's what they're out there to do. They're taught to put the fear of God in whoever they're playing. But I don't think he was intending to cause them any lasting physical damage.
Intent is hard to determine. This is a contact game, and these hits are commonplace. They're exciting, and they make for good entertainment. Defensive coaches encourage big hits, and any coach loves when his runningback takes it to a would-be tackler. These big hits make the NFL, so it's kind of bullshit for the NFL to take them away.
Yes, Harrison launched himself. Yes, Harrison led with his head. No, Harrison did not arch his neck back and bring his arms on the hit. He basically torpedoed each guy and, to the NFL, that adds up to intent. And for Harrison, intent costs him about $75,000 out of his pocket. I don't necessarily agree with it, but that's how the cookie crumbles.
What the NFL really needs to do is provide better healthcare for the players once they retire. That's the reason they're putting skirts on the players now, so they don't have to pay later.
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