Head-to-Head Hits & New Rule Discussion
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Pick up your teeth, get on the turnpike, and shut yer hole, cleveland. You are to the NFL what the pirates are to baseball, and the clippers are to basketball- the laughingstock of the league. And if you had anything positive to look forward to with your team, you wouldn't feel the need to disparage the most successful francise in NFL history. When a team loses for such an extended period, it pervades the whole organization from top to bottom, and eventually affects the whole city. That is what cleveland is- a city with a giant persecution complex, blaming the team, the owner, the coach, the city, the dirty Pittsburgh Steelers. The whole city and everyone on this board needs a good slap across the face, and to be told "stop blaming other factors for your teams failure." You should hear how every other team's fans in the NFL laugh when the cleveland browns are brought up. All you bitching, teethgnashing, backbiting people are a hoot. Long live physical football, James Harrison, and the 6 time superbowl champion Pittsburgh Steelers. Harrison's hits will fill highlight reels for the next few decades like Butkus, Lambert, Brown, and Lewis, before him. Goddell, like cleveland, will be a minor footnote.
First off, find ONE post on this forum that said "gee, we would have won that game if only Cribbs and Massaquoi weren't hurt." Yeah- we lost the game, and we're moving on.
Enjoy seeing Harrison's highlight reel- because all of it will predate 10-18-2010. Your whiny little hero had to take the day off because the NFL won't let him spear opposing players anymore. I did notice he made the "highlight Reel" the NFL League office sent to all the teams of what won't be allowed anymore.
Sorry if you can't handle Browns fans telling you like it is- calling a thug a thug, and your quarterback an embarrassment to the NFL.
First off, find ONE post on this forum that said "gee, we would have won that game if only Cribbs and Massaquoi weren't hurt." Yeah- we lost the game, and we're moving on.
Enjoy seeing Harrison's highlight reel- because all of it will predate 10-18-2010. Your whiny little hero had to take the day off because the NFL won't let him spear opposing players anymore. I did notice he made the "highlight Reel" the NFL League office sent to all the teams of what won't be allowed anymore.
Sorry if you can't handle Browns fans telling you like it is- calling a thug a thug, and your quarterback an embarrassment to the NFL.
Spearing has been illegal for decades. The problem is you think helmet-to-helmet contact and spearing are the same thing. And you like to whine. And you are bitter.
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Do you guys really think these pissburgh fans are going to say that were right and they're wrong? I dont even know why some of you bother because it's like talking to a brick wall most of the time. The league could say both hits were illegal and end up suspending him for the whole season and these inbreds will still tell you the hit was legal.
Your all arguing with a bunch of bandwagon fans that dont even live in pissburgh and I bet any one of them would be more then willing to get on they're knees to please the team so do you really think they will admit any mistakes?
If anything we should get on the mods for not kicking these guys out of here because they all sound like broken records and it's getting old fast. How many decent Browns fans do you think left here because they're sick of these people?
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Do you guys really think these pissburgh fans are going to say that were right and they're wrong? I dont even know why some of you bother because it's like talking to a brick wall most of the time. The league could say both hits were illegal and end up suspending him for the whole season and these inbreds will still tell you the hit was legal.
Your all arguing with a bunch of bandwagon fans that dont even live in pissburgh and I bet any one of them would be more then willing to get on they're knees to please the team so do you really think they will admit any mistakes?
If anything we should get on the mods for not kicking these guys out of here because they all sound like broken records and it's getting old fast. How many decent Browns fans do you think left here because they're sick of these people?
Do you guys really think these pissburgh fans are going to say that were right and they're wrong? I dont even know why some of you bother because it's like talking to a brick wall most of the time. The league could say both hits were illegal and end up suspending him for the whole season and these inbreds will still tell you the hit was legal.
Your all arguing with a bunch of bandwagon fans that dont even live in pissburgh and I bet any one of them would be more then willing to get on they're knees to please the team so do you really think they will admit any mistakes?
If anything we should get on the mods for not kicking these guys out of here because they all sound like broken records and it's getting old fast. How many decent Browns fans do you think left here because they're sick of these people?
Should I bother pointing out how yet another Browns fan ignores the fact that the players are supporting Harrison and are against Goodell's suspension threats?
EDIT: As I type the NFL Network has Sterling Sharpe on saying receivers have a responsibility in avoiding big hits (specifically pointing outs Harrison's hit and hit on Desean Jackson) by reading defenses.
But let me guess, he is just dumb and you are still right......
NFL Newtwork already has it on their website. http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-play...self-protection
EDIT: More players rip Goodell's sissifying of the league. Including 3 QBs!
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-tota...-big-hits-fines
"Hatred is gained as much by good works as by evil" - Niccolo Machiavelli "Expectation is the root of all heartache." - William Shakespeare "In time we hate that which we often fear. " - William Shakespeare "I DO ROIDS ... and GIVE HEAD" - ATENEARS http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16312 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06166/698372-66.stm Friday said, "posters on Internet message boards hide behind their keyboards and write things they would never have the courage to say aloud in public. He said posters who write tasteless messages use football and the rivalries between teams as a way of getting out their aggression in a non-violent manner." Predicted 2010 Steelers record from this board: 7-9; 6-10; 8-8; 9-7; 10-6 -
Very strange. Everything is fine, until I start reading the troublemaking steeler girlietrolls' posts....
then all of a sudden, it's like a stupid skunk walked by the window.
but THEN, the skunk scent immediately goes away when I read on, where they aren't posting.
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Very strange. Everything is fine, until I start reading the troublemaking steeler girlietrolls' posts....
then all of a sudden, it's like a stupid skunk walked by the window.
but THEN, the skunk scent immediately goes away when I read on, where they aren't posting.
Very strange. Everything is fine, until I start reading the troublemaking steeler girlietrolls' posts....
then all of a sudden, it's like a stupid skunk walked by the window.
but THEN, the skunk scent immediately goes away when I read on, where they aren't posting.
It's obvious you don't care about the player's opinion on the issue.
Who are who to tell the players what rules they have to play by? Let them decide. You go nuts when you think Obama is taking away your rights, but you seem to like controlling the rules other people have to play by and have no interest on their opinion in the matter.
But anyways, the fact that you made a stupid, whiny comment inside of anything slightly resembling a logical rebuttle is very evident. And honestly, it doesn't surprise me at all.
"Hatred is gained as much by good works as by evil" - Niccolo Machiavelli "Expectation is the root of all heartache." - William Shakespeare "In time we hate that which we often fear. " - William Shakespeare "I DO ROIDS ... and GIVE HEAD" - ATENEARS http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16312 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06166/698372-66.stm Friday said, "posters on Internet message boards hide behind their keyboards and write things they would never have the courage to say aloud in public. He said posters who write tasteless messages use football and the rivalries between teams as a way of getting out their aggression in a non-violent manner." Predicted 2010 Steelers record from this board: 7-9; 6-10; 8-8; 9-7; 10-6 -
Let's just get rid of the helmets which are the real weapons. Go back to those leather helmets and see if the players continue to play as they are. Those hard helmets changed the way the game was played. Better yet, let's let these bad ass players play with nothing on their head and see if Harrison et al continue to play as they do.
Technology (helmets, pads, shoes, turf, etc have all made the game morphe over the years. As technology changed, play adapted, even with many, many rule changes along the way. Why not remove fair catches, touchbacks, etc. too. Couple the technology changes with the changes in the average NFL player's size, speed, talent and experience and the game has to evolve.
This is all much ado about nothing. Play by the rules, tackle fairly and adjust as a rule changes. It's happened throughout the history of the NFL and should not be a big deal now with the latest emphasis on player safety.
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One thing that the league could implement fairly quickly would be to put foam padding on the back of a helmet. Many QBs and receivers suffer concussions when their heads hit the turf
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It's obvious you don't care about the player's opinion on the issue. spunkedontherack
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It's obvious you are a waste of this board's time.
What I've been saying has nothing to do with your asinine conclusion.
I don't post all that often over here, because there's a lot of BROWNS fans who are quick on the money,
and it's just fun to read it.
It's also obvious that you just want to make trouble, and whine like a little muskrat that is afraid of the dark.
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It's obvious you don't care about the player's opinion on the issue. spunkedontherack
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It's obvious you are a waste of this board's time.
What I've been saying has nothing to do with your asinine conclusion.
I don't post all that often over here, because there's a lot of BROWNS fans who are quick on the money,
and it's just fun to read it.
It's also obvious that you just want to make trouble, and whine like a little muskrat that is afraid of the dark.
It's obvious you don't care about the player's opinion on the issue. spunkedontherack
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It's obvious you are a waste of this board's time.
What I've been saying has nothing to do with your asinine conclusion.
I don't post all that often over here, because there's a lot of BROWNS fans who are quick on the money,
and it's just fun to read it.
It's also obvious that you just want to make trouble, and whine like a little muskrat that is afraid of the dark.
All that because I restated what dozens of players all of the league (including on the Browns) have already said?
"Hatred is gained as much by good works as by evil" - Niccolo Machiavelli "Expectation is the root of all heartache." - William Shakespeare "In time we hate that which we often fear. " - William Shakespeare "I DO ROIDS ... and GIVE HEAD" - ATENEARS http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16312 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06166/698372-66.stm Friday said, "posters on Internet message boards hide behind their keyboards and write things they would never have the courage to say aloud in public. He said posters who write tasteless messages use football and the rivalries between teams as a way of getting out their aggression in a non-violent manner." Predicted 2010 Steelers record from this board: 7-9; 6-10; 8-8; 9-7; 10-6 -
Very strange. Everything is fine, until I start reading the troublemaking steeler girlietrolls' posts....
then all of a sudden, it's like a stupid skunk walked by the window.
but THEN, the skunk scent immediately goes away when I read on, where they aren't posting.
It's obvious you don't care about the player's opinion on the issue.
Who are who to tell the players what rules they have to play by? Let them decide. You go nuts when you think Obama is taking away your rights, but you seem to like controlling the rules other people have to play by and have no interest on their opinion in the matter.
But anyways, the fact that you made a stupid, whiny comment inside of anything slightly resembling a logical rebuttle is very evident. And honestly, it doesn't surprise me at all.
It's obvious you don't care about the player's opinion on the issue.
Actually, I DON'T care about the players' opinions on the issue. I don't really even care about the coaches' opinions unless they're teaching correct techniques and enforcing the rules. I DO care about the opinions of medical experts, scientists, and the NFL. The League is obviously able to enforce its own rules. (Which are not new.) I also care about the families of the players and the health of the players when their careers are over. And I care about watching the best test of skill that's available.
You can question the sincerity of the League given the state of their relationship with the players' union but it is disingenuous to argue the dangers of continuing to allow unrestrained violence on the field of play.
I've never been disappointed by a game that did not contain violent hits that sent players to the bench. I don't want to see the third team on the field because the rest were knocked out by injury. I want to see the best, most skilled players competing within the rules on both sides. As funny as it was in the movie, I don't REALLY want to see the football game from M*A*S*H every week. I want to see the best of the best.
Woof Woof, Kathy http://cognitivemanifesto.com/ http://www.skadden.com/index.cfm?contentID=49&officeID=9 Bendix ESP -
HEY HOW ABOUT THIS STEELER'S DOUCHEBAGS. GAMES WERE PLAYED THIS PAST SUNDAY AFTER THE LEAGUE SAID THAT ILLEGAL 'HITS' (NOT TACKLES) WOULD BE PENALIZED AND THE PLAYER INVOLVED COULD BE SUSPENDED AND PENALIZED..............AND WHAT HAPPENED? NOTHING. THERE WAS ONE QUESTIONABLE HIT BY ONE PLAYER THAT WAS DEEMED INAVOIDABLE THEREFOR LEGAL. NO PUSSIFICATION OF THE GAME. NO POWDER PUFF FOOTBALL. SO ALL YOU DUMB ASSES THAT SAID THAT'S WHAT WE AS BROWNS FANS WANTED CAN GO F YOURSELF! DUMMIES.
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Formerly Stone said:
And when the NFL turns a blind eye to the fact that these guys get bigger, faster, and stronger every single year because of HGH and steriods......THAT IS THE PROBLEMThat is definitely A problem. Maybe THE problem is that the men who use these substances lack the maturity, character and integrity to make better decisions. Adherence to the rules seems to have fallen out of fashion.
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I thought it was sulfur burning, but it was only sqeeler roid "fans" trolling for trouble...
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that damn chavez quoted me?
that sob.
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Formerly Stone said:
But look at it from the point of view of a player.If you don't "keep up" with the other players who do the drugs you run the risk of being injured and you run the risk of being outplayed and replaced.
Why yes. That could happen. And what did you plan to do AFTER football? Professional football is for the best of the best. You are one of the elite to have made it AT ALL. Take pride in that and move forward.
Formerly Stone said:
I would be willing to bet that most players wish that nobody did the drugs but if some do it, the rest have to do it to keep up."Have to?" Nope. Are WILLING to, maybe. This is where the character issue comes in. Are you the kind of person who does something against the rules or against the spirit of the rules for personal gain? Or, does doing the RIGHT thing, no matter what the consequences are, take priority? Character.
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T.J. Ward got fined Heavily and immediately FLAGGED for same type of hit and he had much less time and room to avoid it.
T.J. Ward got fined Heavily and immediately FLAGGED for same type of hit and he had much less time and room to avoid it.
hey, i never realized Wright defensed that TD pass. !! nice D, kid!
i thought Ward's hit separated Shipley from the ball but this vid clearly shows the ball bouncing away before TJ's hit. now how bout them apples.
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I was pleasantly intrigued to learn that Hines Ward got a concussion yesterday. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
Focus: Our old buddy Sean Jones, dropped by the Browns for receiving too many concussions as a player, gave a helmet-to-helmet greeting to Jimmy Clausen this past week.
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I was pleasantly intrigued to learn that Hines Ward got a concussion yesterday. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
Focus: Our old buddy Sean Jones, dropped by the Browns for receiving too many concussions as a player, gave a helmet-to-helmet greeting to Jimmy Clausen this past week.
I was pleasantly intrigued to learn that Hines Ward got a concussion yesterday. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
Focus: Our old buddy Sean Jones, dropped by the Browns for receiving too many concussions as a player, gave a helmet-to-helmet greeting to Jimmy Clausen this past week.
That's because you are a classless Clevetard.
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I was pleasantly intrigued to learn that Hines Ward got a concussion yesterday. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
Focus: Our old buddy Sean Jones, dropped by the Browns for receiving too many concussions as a player, gave a helmet-to-helmet greeting to Jimmy Clausen this past week.
That's because you are a classless Clevetard.
I am a classless troll.
Fixed your post. Now go whine to someone who cares what you think.
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I am a classless troll.
Fixed your post. Now go whine to someone who cares what you think.
Fixed your post. Now go whine to someone who cares what you think.
If you are going to screw with my post atleast make it funny. Don't just be stupid about it. Here's your chance to redeem yourself.
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