Colt should start the rest of the season

[CantonLegend]

@earl34 said:

CL, John Madden answered this last week by saying that no coach in the NFL is going to let the player that gives his team the best chance to win sit on the sideline. Colt has shown far more accuracy, maturity, athleticism and intelligence than anyone thought he would. He's managed to lead his team to 30+ points two games in a row (admittedly the NO 30+ was a result of defensive scores). The teammates are selling out for him (see Cribbs' block on Meriweather) and the teammates are excited about him.

If he keeps you competitive and is progressing ahead of schedule then there's no reason to sit him.

and i agree.......if colt truely is the best QB on the team then he should play

its just my opinion that jake and/or seneca give the browns a better chance to win

his accuracy is a product of the play calling but his maturity is something that is somewhat surprising

seneca is more athletic and jake is probably a smarter QB

and like i said before, colt isnt really the reason that they score 30 points a game.......peyton hillis, the defense, and the offensive line have a lot more to do with it than colt mccoy

[Earl34]

@cantonlegend said:

and i agree.......if colt truely is the best QB on the team then he should play

its just my opinion that jake and/or seneca give the browns a better chance to win

his accuracy is a product of the play calling but his maturity is something that is somewhat surprising

seneca is more athletic and jake is probably a smarter QB

and like i said before, colt isnt really the reason that they score 30 points a game.......peyton hillis, the defense, and the offensive line have a lot more to do with it than colt mccoy

You're certainly entitled to your opinion but I disagree. His accuracy is inherent to his ability. He was this accurate in college. If accuracy was a function of play design or play calling, then DA would still be a starter here. Seneca more athletic? Did you see his TD run? I would argue that Colt is as athletic as Seneca. If Colt makes all of the right decisions on the field then you can't possibly say that Jake is "smarter".

[BrownIndian]

Is it safe to say that the next generation of QB's have arrived ? Apart from a select few a lot more teams have young starters.

[pikeyM27]

Lets trade Colt and get us some draft picks!!!! Can we get two 7th round pick for him? That would be great! His receivers make him look good, we need to trade him now and then draft a QB next year. May be we can trade Colt and Hillis for #1 pick.

NFL experts are saying Colt is a fluke and should be traded for draft picks.

p.s. For those who think that was dumb, in 2007 I would've been praised as the smartest guy on this board for talking like that.

[DieHardBrownsFan]

@pikeym27 said:

Lets trade Colt and get us some draft picks!!!! Can we get two 7th round pick for him? That would be great! His receivers make him look good, we need to trade him now and then draft a QB next year. May be we can trade Colt and Hillis for #1 pick.

NFL experts are saying Colt is a fluke and should be traded for draft picks.

p.s. For those who think that was dumb, in 2007 I would've been praised as the smartest guy on this board for talking like that.

You still here? Go away freak.

[Kosar_For_President]

@pikeym27 said:

Lets trade Colt and get us some draft picks!!!! Can we get two 7th round pick for him? That would be great! His receivers make him look good, we need to trade him now and then draft a QB next year. May be we can trade Colt and Hillis for #1 pick.

NFL experts are saying Colt is a fluke and should be traded for draft picks.

p.s. For those who think that was dumb, in 2007 I would've been praised as the smartest guy on this board for talking like that.

I retract my statement about CantonLegend. Dumbest post of the month right here.

[tshirtfan]

Even if Delhomme or Seneca could play better, they've been out for over a month now. The offense has found rhythm, and each one of those QBs will run the offense differently. So changing to Seneca or Jake might mean taking a step back and having to get into a new groove.

I personally think Mangini's indecisive posturing is more to establish that Colt needs to earn the starting job, rather than to throw off the next opponent's gameplan. And that's part of Mangini's job; he can't succumb to the pressure of the fanbase and media. Those of us on the outside looking in are naturally going to get really excited and want sudden change. However, McCoy hasn't assembled enough of a resume to justify keeping him in after he plays a bad game. The coaches don't want a QB controversy, so he needs more wins before his position is strong enough to justify moving up the chart officially.

The interesting storyline will be dealing with Wallace. I think it's pretty much obvious to everyone by now that he's physically healthy enough to be practicing. How will Mangini handle it?

[longhorn]

@kosar_for_president said:

I retract my statement about CantonLegend. Dumbest post of the month right here.

Hmmm....maybe on a single post, but CantonLegend is still the dumbest poster of the month because of the volume of dumb posts he makes.

[Kosar_For_President]

@longhorn said:

Hmmm....maybe on a single post, but CantonLegend is still the dumbest poster of the month because of the volume of dumb posts he makes.

Agreed. Volume speaks Volumes.

[MudratDetector]

@cantonlegend said:

and i agree.......if colt truely is the best QB on the team then he should play

its just my opinion that jake and/or seneca give the browns a better chance to win

his accuracy is a product of the play calling but his maturity is something that is somewhat surprising

seneca is more athletic and jake is probably a smarter QB

and like i said before, colt isnt really the reason that they score 30 points a game.......peyton hillis, the defense, and the offensive line have a lot more to do with it than colt mccoy

wrong on every level.

the browns have been in every game this year but could never get over the top with the exception of the bengals game. neither jake or seneca was making those plays that sustained the drives to give the browns the W. the first 4 losses of the season are indicative of this.

the browns aren't only winning with colt mccoy. they are winning decisively. it is clear that he has emerged as the new leader of the browns. the way that he kept those drives alive yesterday is testament that he gives the browns a chance to win every single game that they play for the rest of the season.

you need to watch game film of delhomme from TB and ATL games this year before saying he IS a smart QB. he WAS a smart qb. seneca is exactly what we need as a back-up but from watching every game this year, it is clear that he can't carry the team on his back in the same way that colt can.

[Earl34]

@mudratdetector said:

wrong on every level.

the browns have been in every game this year but could never get over the top with the exception of the bengals game. neither jake or seneca was making those plays that sustained the drives to give the browns the W. the first 4 losses of the season are indicative of this.

the browns aren't only winning with colt mccoy. they are winning decisively. it is clear that he has emerged as the new leader of the browns. the way that he kept those drives alive yesterday is testament that he gives the browns a chance to win every single game that they play for the rest of the season.

you need to watch game film of delhomme from TB and ATL games this year before saying he IS a smart QB. he WAS a smart qb. seneca is exactly what we need as a back-up but from watching every game this year, it is clear that he can't carry the team on his back in the same way that colt can.

Not to mention that Seneca has trouble with the deep fade. Colt isn't great at it but he's in the vicinity....

[MudratDetector]

@earl34 said:

Not to mention that Seneca has trouble with the deep fade. Colt isn't great at it but he's in the vicinity....

i don't fret that an interception is imminent whenever colt goes long. that's for sure

[StrangeBru]

This thread should have been started before yesterday. The way the rookie played last week it would be a horrible decision to sit him ofr any reason, except injury or when they play the Ravens .

I ain't saying he is the second coming of Otto Graham, or even Bernie Kosar, but the kid deserves to play until he proves otherwise.

[Earl34]

@strangebru said:

This thread should have been started before yesterday. The way the rookie played last week it would be a horrible decision to sit him ofr any reason, except injury or when they play the Ravens .

I ain't saying he is the second coming of Otto Graham, or even Bernie Kosar, but the kid deserves to play until he proves otherwise.

You're correct but I think that he's showing far more than could be expected and has answered his critics...so far. No need to name a starter right now. Just let him get through this next week. When you look at the reaction Colt got from his teammates and from Mangini and Daboll after he scored that TD yesterday, he's the starter. I don't care what they say. They're giddy and they don't want to let it out.

[The Gipper]

@cantonlegend said:

whats wrong with letting him sit and learn when jake and seneca are healthy?

Because by all objective measures, McCoy gives this team the greater chance of winning, right here, right now. And that is what it is all about, Hokey Pokey.

[pikeyM27]

@diehardbrownsfan said:

You still here? Go away freak.

You're wrong! Colt just appears to be good QB, because no one has any film on him yet. 2-3 games and everyone will figure him out, then what? Trade him now and draft proven winner like Nate Montana next year. He's from Notr Dam, so you know he's good. I think we can get 4th for Colt.

[CantonLegend]

@longhorn said:

Hmmm....maybe on a single post, but CantonLegend is still the dumbest poster of the month because of the volume of dumb posts he makes.

aww.....and i thought you had grown up

im sorry you're not exactly capable of understanding simple football but you need to use your words to express your emotions instead of just throwing up on the keyboard and hitting enter with your response

i'll help you to comprehend some simple football complexities that way when you talk, it doesnt sound like someone sh*tting their pants

[Jantz2086]

What it boils down to is Colt McCoy has played in three games. Pittsburgh, New Orleans and New England. Arguably three of the top 5 teams in the league. He is 2-1. He has kept the team's drives alive, and he has shown to be verbal and incredible in the huddle and on the line. We haven't seen that with a "new" QB, that we've tried to put in the system. What is wrong with keeping McCoy in the system, and letting Jake be paid to TEACH him how to handle the situations, keep his chin up when he's done - etc. Are we afraid that we might actually just find our franchise Quarterback.

[CantonLegend]

@mudratdetector said:

wrong on every level.

the browns have been in every game this year but could never get over the top with the exception of the bengals game. neither jake or seneca was making those plays that sustained the drives to give the browns the W. the first 4 losses of the season are indicative of this.

the browns aren't only winning with colt mccoy. they are winning decisively. it is clear that he has emerged as the new leader of the browns. the way that he kept those drives alive yesterday is testament that he gives the browns a chance to win every single game that they play for the rest of the season.

you need to watch game film of delhomme from TB and ATL games this year before saying he IS a smart QB. he WAS a smart qb. seneca is exactly what we need as a back-up but from watching every game this year, it is clear that he can't carry the team on his back in the same way that colt can.

i was wrong that colt should start if he truely is the best QB on the team?....am i wrong about that too?

the browns were in every game this season against some tough competition......except colts first start against the pittsburgh steelers which is the browns biggest rival......the browns are a good team that has played the toughest schedule in the league so far this season.....its unfortunate because the record is not indicative of how good they are

the browns also traded jerome harrison for mike bell.....maybe mike bell is the reason they have won so many games. maybe stuckey and robiskie playing more is the reason. maybe starting the backup RT due to injury is the reason. maybe playing rubin over rogers was the reason for so much success

maybe its not?

there are a lot of things that have changed for the browns this season and pointing to colt as the reason is ignoring the big picture. fwiw the browns have only won 3 games so far this season and you cant honestly say that colt is the reason 2 of those wins

[CantonLegend]

@jantz2086 said:

What it boils down to is Colt McCoy has played in three games. Pittsburgh, New Orleans and New England. Arguably three of the top 5 teams in the league. He is 2-1. He has kept the team's drives alive, and he has shown to be verbal and incredible in the huddle and on the line. We haven't seen that with a "new" QB, that we've tried to put in the system. What is wrong with keeping McCoy in the system, and letting Jake be paid to TEACH him how to handle the situations, keep his chin up when he's done - etc. Are we afraid that we might actually just find our franchise Quarterback.

ive just seen this happen too many times for cleveland

the fans jump on a QBs bandwagon.....get too excited about a young kid then expect him to take over the world

when he doesnt meet those expectations hes thrown under the bus and the cycle gets repeated

colt is a pretty solid QB for a rookie but the style of football that the browns are playing is not a style that is going to continue to win games this season. they need a veteran pressence until colt is actually ready......throwing him into the fire and making excuses for him if he screws up isnt the way to go about it