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Damn straight. You won't believe Tomlin's idiocy on Harrison's fines for dangerous helmet shots

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  • Zombo said:

    Maybe we should start a charity for Harrison's kids.

    Oh wait ... NFL fines DO go to charities ... The United Way ... where they help disadvantaged youngsters get a boost in life ... kids whose daddies don't make millions playing in the NFL. Kids without daddies. Kids without shoes.

    Keep it up, Jerome, they are counting on you each week...

    Zombo

    Jerome? Whats Jerome Harrison have to do with this?

    Had a heck of a year with us last year. Is he still with the Eagles?

  • In other news both Brian Urlacher and Terrel Suggs have made it their point come out and publicly defend Harrison against the flag and fined handed to him this past weekened....Tomlin's point was Goodell is wrongly taking money from Harrison. No matter how much money you possess it's never okay for someone else to wrongly take any amount from you. The guy writing this article has the brain capacity of a drunk.....Cal is the biggest closet Steeler fan I have ever seen. That's all he ever talks about.

    @spunkonmyback-dpoy said:

    In other news both Brian Urlacher and Terrel Suggs have made it their point come out and publicly defend Harrison

    Yea like men and not like a little bitch-ass coach whining about...college tuition payments! WTF. You and all the little bitch front-running Stooler fans can suck it, like your wife did 10 times last night.

  • maybe his kids can get a scholarship. i'm pretty sure most universities have a scholarship for students whose fathers have died because of steroid abuse. give it ten years and they will qualify for it.

  • In other news both Brian Urlacher and Terrel Suggs have made it their point come out and publicly defend Harrison against the flag and fined handed to him this past weekened....Tomlin's point was Goodell is wrongly taking money from Harrison. No matter how much money you possess it's never okay for someone else to wrongly take any amount from you. The guy writing this article has the brain capacity of a drunk.....Cal is the biggest closet Steeler fan I have ever seen. That's all he ever talks about.

    @spunkonmyback-dpoy said:

    In other news both Brian Urlacher and Terrel Suggs have made it their point come out and publicly defend Harrison against the flag and fined handed to him this past weekened....Tomlin's point was Goodell is wrongly taking money from Harrison. No matter how much money you possess it's never okay for someone else to wrongly take any amount from you. The guy writing this article has the brain capacity of a drunk.....Cal is the biggest closet Steeler fan I have ever seen. That's all he ever talks about.

    Notable drunks: Ernest Hemingway, Charles Bukowski, Stephen King, William Faulkner, O. Henry/William Porter, Truman Capote, John Steinbeck, Edgar Allen Poe, Hunter S. Thompson, and they all had more brain capacity than you. If the writer had only the brain capacity of a drunk, then what kind of brain capacity do Harrison and Tomlin have? The writer has a reading comprehension level high enough to complete sentences. I doubt either of those two gentleman have more than a twelth grade reading level. Tomlin might, but Harrison, I bet, has trouble signing his well deserved checks that he keeps having to give back to the NFL.

  • @spunkonmyback-dpoy said:

    In other news both Brian Urlacher and Terrel Suggs have made it their point come out and publicly defend Harrison against the flag and fined handed to him this past weekened....Tomlin's point was Goodell is wrongly taking money from Harrison. No matter how much money you possess it's never okay for someone else to wrongly take any amount from you. The guy writing this article has the brain capacity of a drunk.....Cal is the biggest closet Steeler fan I have ever seen. That's all he ever talks about.

    Notable drunks: Ernest Hemingway, Charles Bukowski, Stephen King, William Faulkner, O. Henry/William Porter, Truman Capote, John Steinbeck, Edgar Allen Poe, Hunter S. Thompson, and they all had more brain capacity than you. If the writer had only the brain capacity of a drunk, then what kind of brain capacity do Harrison and Tomlin have? The writer has a reading comprehension level high enough to complete sentences. I doubt either of those two gentleman have more than a twelth grade reading level. Tomlin might, but Harrison, I bet, has trouble signing his well deserved checks that he keeps having to give back to the NFL.

    @hillis4prez420 said:

    Notable drunks: Ernest Hemingway, Charles Bukowski, Stephen King, William Faulkner, O. Henry/William Porter, Truman Capote, John Steinbeck, Edgar Allen Poe, Hunter S. Thompson, and they all had more brain capacity than you. If the writer had only the brain capacity of a drunk, then what kind of brain capacity do Harrison and Tomlin have? The writer has a reading comprehension level high enough to complete sentences. I doubt either of those two gentleman have more than a twelth grade reading level. Tomlin might, but Harrison, I bet, has trouble signing his well deserved checks that he keeps having to give back to the NFL.

    Other notable drunks: Ulysses S. Grant. Richard Burton, Drew Barrymore, Eric Clapton, Alexander the Great, Joseph Stalin, Joe McCarthy, John Ford, John Huston, Robert Downey Jr., Jack Kerouac, David Crosby, Mary Tyler Moore, George W. Bush, William Shatner, Johnny Cash, Betty Ford, Judy Garland, John Denver, Mel Gibson, Tim Allen, Errol Flynn, Mickey Mantle, Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio, Joe Namath, Jackie Gleason, Boris Yeltsin, Doc Holiday, Billy Holiday, Winston Churchill, Charlie Sheen, Elton John, Nick Nolte, Natalie Wood, Tommy Lee Jones, George Carlin, Frank Sinatra, Anthony Hopkins, John Bonham, Michael Landon, Billy Joel, Jimmy Hendrix, Dylan Thomas, James Thurber, Hank Williams, Robin Williams, O. Henry.

  • I heard this interview and Tomlin did say that in that tone. It was ridiculous. First off, James Harrison's kids aren't going to Harvard. His gene pool isn't that good. Second of all, cry me a river. So, we aren't supposed to fine NFL players because they might go broke? I was AMAZED that the hosts of the show even allowed this line of thought to continue without questioning it.

    @earl34 said:

    I heard this interview and Tomlin did say that in that tone. It was ridiculous. First off, James Harrison's kids aren't going to Harvard. His gene pool isn't that good. Second of all, cry me a river. So, we aren't supposed to fine NFL players because they might go broke? I was AMAZED that the hosts of the show even allowed this line of thought to continue without questioning it.

    Or how about Goodell and Co. are ruining the league and the hits he's being fined for shouldn't be fine worthy offenses. Players all over the league are upset about the rule change. Suggs of the Ravens recently went to bat for Harrison, others have spoken up. The players Union filed a grievance. The best part Goodell wants to crack down on certain types of hits but also wants to extend the regular season to 18 games. Makes perfect sense. I can't believe a fan base that at, at least one point in time prided itself on hard nosed football has a thread on hits that shouldn't be fine worthy. Oh wait it's because Harrison is a Steeler. If he weren't it wouldn't be a topic. Just stop watching football because the current state of affairs is shameful. The league if it continues down this path will be changed forever and not in a good way.

  • In other news both Brian Urlacher and Terrel Suggs have made it their point come out and publicly defend Harrison against the flag and fined handed to him this past weekened....Tomlin's point was Goodell is wrongly taking money from Harrison. No matter how much money you possess it's never okay for someone else to wrongly take any amount from you. The guy writing this article has the brain capacity of a drunk.....Cal is the biggest closet Steeler fan I have ever seen. That's all he ever talks about.

    @spunkonmyback-dpoy said:

    In other news both Brian Urlacher and Terrel Suggs have made it their point come out and publicly defend Harrison against the flag and fined handed to him this past weekened....Tomlin's point was Goodell is wrongly taking money from Harrison. No matter how much money you possess it's never okay for someone else to wrongly take any amount from you. The guy writing this article has the brain capacity of a drunk.....Cal is the biggest closet Steeler fan I have ever seen. That's all he ever talks about.

    Umm did these guys not see the play? Leading with you helmet on a qb was a flag 2 years ago and its still a flag now. I think a few of these guys need to get check for brain damage to many blows to the head they are starting to sound real stupid.

  • @hillis4prez420 said:

    Notable drunks: Ernest Hemingway, Charles Bukowski, Stephen King, William Faulkner, O. Henry/William Porter, Truman Capote, John Steinbeck, Edgar Allen Poe, Hunter S. Thompson, and they all had more brain capacity than you. If the writer had only the brain capacity of a drunk, then what kind of brain capacity do Harrison and Tomlin have? The writer has a reading comprehension level high enough to complete sentences. I doubt either of those two gentleman have more than a twelth grade reading level. Tomlin might, but Harrison, I bet, has trouble signing his well deserved checks that he keeps having to give back to the NFL.

    Other notable drunks: Ulysses S. Grant. Richard Burton, Drew Barrymore, Eric Clapton, Alexander the Great, Joseph Stalin, Joe McCarthy, John Ford, John Huston, Robert Downey Jr., Jack Kerouac, David Crosby, Mary Tyler Moore, George W. Bush, William Shatner, Johnny Cash, Betty Ford, Judy Garland, John Denver, Mel Gibson, Tim Allen, Errol Flynn, Mickey Mantle, Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio, Joe Namath, Jackie Gleason, Boris Yeltsin, Doc Holiday, Billy Holiday, Winston Churchill, Charlie Sheen, Elton John, Nick Nolte, Natalie Wood, Tommy Lee Jones, George Carlin, Frank Sinatra, Anthony Hopkins, John Bonham, Michael Landon, Billy Joel, Jimmy Hendrix, Dylan Thomas, James Thurber, Hank Williams, Robin Williams, O. Henry.

    @the-gipper said:

    Other notable drunks: Ulysses S. Grant. Richard Burton, Drew Barrymore, Eric Clapton, Alexander the Great, Joseph Stalin, Joe McCarthy, John Ford, John Huston, Robert Downey Jr., Jack Kerouac, David Crosby, Mary Tyler Moore, George W. Bush, William Shatner, Johnny Cash, Betty Ford, Judy Garland, John Denver, Mel Gibson, Tim Allen, Errol Flynn, Mickey Mantle, Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio, Joe Namath, Jackie Gleason, Boris Yeltsin, Doc Holiday, Billy Holiday, Winston Churchill, Charlie Sheen, Elton John, Nick Nolte, Natalie Wood, Tommy Lee Jones, George Carlin, Frank Sinatra, Anthony Hopkins, John Bonham, Michael Landon, Billy Joel, Jimmy Hendrix, Dylan Thomas, James Thurber, Hank Williams, Robin Williams, O. Henry.

    Well, I wanted to stick with writers, for he was bashing the writer there. Ted Kennedy, Walt Whitman, the list goes on.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Other notable drunks: Ulysses S. Grant. Richard Burton, Drew Barrymore, Eric Clapton, Alexander the Great, Joseph Stalin, Joe McCarthy, John Ford, John Huston, Robert Downey Jr., Jack Kerouac, David Crosby, Mary Tyler Moore, George W. Bush, William Shatner, Johnny Cash, Betty Ford, Judy Garland, John Denver, Mel Gibson, Tim Allen, Errol Flynn, Mickey Mantle, Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio, Joe Namath, Jackie Gleason, Boris Yeltsin, Doc Holiday, Billy Holiday, Winston Churchill, Charlie Sheen, Elton John, Nick Nolte, Natalie Wood, Tommy Lee Jones, George Carlin, Frank Sinatra, Anthony Hopkins, John Bonham, Michael Landon, Billy Joel, Jimmy Hendrix, Dylan Thomas, James Thurber, Hank Williams, Robin Williams, O. Henry.

    Well, I wanted to stick with writers, for he was bashing the writer there. Ted Kennedy, Walt Whitman, the list goes on.

    @hillis4prez420 said:

    Well, I wanted to stick with writers, for he was bashing the writer there. Ted Kennedy, Walt Whitman, the list goes on.

    OK, well here you go:

  • Typical ghetto behavior.

    If this whole feel bad for my kids thing doesn't work out for them I bet they play the race card next.

    I wonder what ol Harrison will think when his kids play peewee football and get knocked out after the whistle? I bet he wont be singing the same tune he is now, thats for sure.

  • @earl34 said:

    I heard this interview and Tomlin did say that in that tone. It was ridiculous. First off, James Harrison's kids aren't going to Harvard. His gene pool isn't that good. Second of all, cry me a river. So, we aren't supposed to fine NFL players because they might go broke? I was AMAZED that the hosts of the show even allowed this line of thought to continue without questioning it.

    Or how about Goodell and Co. are ruining the league and the hits he's being fined for shouldn't be fine worthy offenses. Players all over the league are upset about the rule change. Suggs of the Ravens recently went to bat for Harrison, others have spoken up. The players Union filed a grievance. The best part Goodell wants to crack down on certain types of hits but also wants to extend the regular season to 18 games. Makes perfect sense. I can't believe a fan base that at, at least one point in time prided itself on hard nosed football has a thread on hits that shouldn't be fine worthy. Oh wait it's because Harrison is a Steeler. If he weren't it wouldn't be a topic. Just stop watching football because the current state of affairs is shameful. The league if it continues down this path will be changed forever and not in a good way.

    Homotron said:

    Or how about Goodell and Co. are ruining the league and the hits he's being fined for shouldn't be fine worthy offenses. Players all over the league are upset about the rule change. Suggs of the Ravens recently went to bat for Harrison, others have spoken up. The players Union filed a grievance. The best part Goodell wants to crack down on certain types of hits but also wants to extend the regular season to 18 games. Makes perfect sense. I can't believe a fan base that at, at least one point in time prided itself on hard nosed football has a thread on hits that shouldn't be fine worthy. Oh wait it's because Harrison is a Steeler. If he weren't it wouldn't be a topic. Just stop watching football because the current state of affairs is shameful. The league if it continues down this path will be changed forever and not in a good way.

    This coming from a Steeler fan posting on a Browns Message Board.. Oh the irony! 😆

  • Homotron said:

    Or how about Goodell and Co. are ruining the league and the hits he's being fined for shouldn't be fine worthy offenses. Players all over the league are upset about the rule change. Suggs of the Ravens recently went to bat for Harrison, others have spoken up. The players Union filed a grievance. The best part Goodell wants to crack down on certain types of hits but also wants to extend the regular season to 18 games. Makes perfect sense. I can't believe a fan base that at, at least one point in time prided itself on hard nosed football has a thread on hits that shouldn't be fine worthy. Oh wait it's because Harrison is a Steeler. If he weren't it wouldn't be a topic. Just stop watching football because the current state of affairs is shameful. The league if it continues down this path will be changed forever and not in a good way.

    This coming from a Steeler fan posting on a Browns Message Board.. Oh the irony! 😆

    @bringbackbrownie2 said:

    This coming from a Steeler fan posting on a Browns Message Board.. Oh the irony! 😆

    That wont work on these trolls. No matter how much of they're life they waste here they will never, ever, ever, realize how big of hypocrites they actually are.

    It's like you tell them hey, get off the Browns board if your only going to bitch about what we write but nope. They're still here. Even when the squeelers are playing football and theres 2 min left in the 4th quarter and the scores tied, they are still here bitching about what us Browns fans write on these Browns forums rather then watching the team they rep from 2 states away finish out the game.

  • Bottom Line is its Bull S*** Sissification of the NFL. Wait till the Browns Defense Grows uo and starts Rockin People... You guys wont feel the same way anymore. The Hit Sunday ? As he is releasing the Ball ... come on P***Y BS ! And If Ben was on the recieving end... which he ofttimes is... Then so be it. And In BRs career ...he has just next to No Roughing the Passer called in his favor. Candy~A** Society is taking over.

  • I hate the steelers and there gay fans and I'm not saying harrisons hits were al clean.

    I do agree the nfl is gaying it up by all these rules, every couple of years the rules get changed. Defenses can't dive at qbs knees or hit the in the head. When ur being blocked and ur hand barely hits a qbss helmet, there should be no 15 yard penalty.

    What's next, flag football or two hand touch?

  • Bottom Line is its Bull S*** Sissification of the NFL. Wait till the Browns Defense Grows uo and starts Rockin People... You guys wont feel the same way anymore. The Hit Sunday ? As he is releasing the Ball ... come on P***Y BS ! And If Ben was on the recieving end... which he ofttimes is... Then so be it. And In BRs career ...he has just next to No Roughing the Passer called in his favor. Candy~A** Society is taking over.

    @bunsofsteel08 said:

    Bottom Line is its Bull S*** Sissification of the NFL. Wait till the Browns Defense Grows uo and starts Rockin People... You guys wont feel the same way anymore. The Hit Sunday ? As he is releasing the Ball ... come on P***Y BS ! And If Ben was on the recieving end... which he ofttimes is... Then so be it. And In BRs career ...he has just next to No Roughing the Passer called in his favor. Candy~A** Society is taking over.

    It wasn't a late hit call so releasing the ball makes no difference. If you lower your head (or lead with your head whatever you want to call it) the refs will call it every time. That's why he was fined. That is why he keeps getting fined. You can still hit hard and continue being a physical player without leading with your head.. The browns defense hits hard yet stays within the rules like the other 30 teams in the league that play by the rules.. Harrison, Hines Ward, and Tomlin can cry and moan all they want but the bottom line is that if Harrison doesn't want to get fined, he should play by the rules...

  • It seems to me that we already did have a player get fined for a similar such hit on a bengals player and guess what...? He didn't get fined again all season since that game (game 3 i believe). Which to me tells me that he learned the rules and guidelines that are entailed in the rules which BTW are NOT new rules they are just buckling down on enforcing them more this year. Maybe that has to do with the new 18 game schedule I don't know but these supposed "new" rules all you Steeler Trolls are bitching about have been around for several years. Go cry in your panzy azz, rapist milk and find somewhere better than a BROWNS board to post your crap. ( I know I know you chose a crap team so you feel like you can be a part of something special by hanging around here all day...)

  • @bunsofsteel08 said:

    Bottom Line is its Bull S*** Sissification of the NFL. Wait till the Browns Defense Grows uo and starts Rockin People... You guys wont feel the same way anymore. The Hit Sunday ? As he is releasing the Ball ... come on P***Y BS ! And If Ben was on the recieving end... which he ofttimes is... Then so be it. And In BRs career ...he has just next to No Roughing the Passer called in his favor. Candy~A** Society is taking over.

    It wasn't a late hit call so releasing the ball makes no difference. If you lower your head (or lead with your head whatever you want to call it) the refs will call it every time. That's why he was fined. That is why he keeps getting fined. You can still hit hard and continue being a physical player without leading with your head.. The browns defense hits hard yet stays within the rules like the other 30 teams in the league that play by the rules.. Harrison, Hines Ward, and Tomlin can cry and moan all they want but the bottom line is that if Harrison doesn't want to get fined, he should play by the rules...

    @bringbackbrownie2 said:

    It wasn't a late hit call so releasing the ball makes no difference. If you lower your head (or lead with your head whatever you want to call it) the refs will call it every time. That's why he was fined. That is why he keeps getting fined. You can still hit hard and continue being a physical player without leading with your head.. The browns defense hits hard yet stays within the rules like the other 30 teams in the league that play by the rules.. Harrison, Hines Ward, and Tomlin can cry and moan all they want but the bottom line is that if Harrison doesn't want to get fined, he should play by the rules...

    Its BS man... sorry .. not being a Homer. Its just that the Old Lambert "Just Put Skirts on them " has come back with a vengeance.

    By the way Large disagreement on the "Leading with head" Golic Brian Urlacher and and a few other guys said what was Harrison to do ? He put his Face mask (Upper part) and his Helmet numbers in the QB ..CHEST... Good lord. Its pathetic...and Pussified.

  • @bunsofsteel08 said:

    Bottom Line is its Bull S*** Sissification of the NFL. Wait till the Browns Defense Grows uo and starts Rockin People... You guys wont feel the same way anymore. The Hit Sunday ? As he is releasing the Ball ... come on P***Y BS ! And If Ben was on the recieving end... which he ofttimes is... Then so be it. And In BRs career ...he has just next to No Roughing the Passer called in his favor. Candy~A** Society is taking over.

    It wasn't a late hit call so releasing the ball makes no difference. If you lower your head (or lead with your head whatever you want to call it) the refs will call it every time. That's why he was fined. That is why he keeps getting fined. You can still hit hard and continue being a physical player without leading with your head.. The browns defense hits hard yet stays within the rules like the other 30 teams in the league that play by the rules.. Harrison, Hines Ward, and Tomlin can cry and moan all they want but the bottom line is that if Harrison doesn't want to get fined, he should play by the rules...

    @bringbackbrownie2 said:

    It wasn't a late hit call so releasing the ball makes no difference. If you lower your head (or lead with your head whatever you want to call it) the refs will call it every time. That's why he was fined. That is why he keeps getting fined. You can still hit hard and continue being a physical player without leading with your head.. The browns defense hits hard yet stays within the rules like the other 30 teams in the league that play by the rules.. Harrison, Hines Ward, and Tomlin can cry and moan all they want but the bottom line is that if Harrison doesn't want to get fined, he should play by the rules...

    Waht a Load of S***...EVERY Defense has guys that Hit with a part of the Helmet....dont act like PITTSBURGH is the Only team that has this issue. Did you Play ?? I Know in Warren we were taught to "Put our Head in there" Not SPEAR .... But look at your Target and Hit it. Helmet to Helmet I understand that (Though MANY Times its nobodys FAULT...as BOTH Players are moving thier heads.) But Helmet to Back , Leg , Chest ?? on an UPRIGHT Target who is trying to Beat your teams A** ??? Whatever... thats Not Football. Get out the Powder Puffs you "panty~wastes" !!

  • It seems to me that we already did have a player get fined for a similar such hit on a bengals player and guess what...? He didn't get fined again all season since that game (game 3 i believe). Which to me tells me that he learned the rules and guidelines that are entailed in the rules which BTW are NOT new rules they are just buckling down on enforcing them more this year. Maybe that has to do with the new 18 game schedule I don't know but these supposed "new" rules all you Steeler Trolls are bitching about have been around for several years. Go cry in your panzy azz, rapist milk and find somewhere better than a BROWNS board to post your crap. ( I know I know you chose a crap team so you feel like you can be a part of something special by hanging around here all day...)

    @xanthros said:

    It seems to me that we already did have a player get fined for a similar such hit on a bengals player and guess what...? He didn't get fined again all season since that game (game 3 i believe). Which to me tells me that he learned the rules and guidelines that are entailed in the rules which BTW are NOT new rules they are just buckling down on enforcing them more this year. Maybe that has to do with the new 18 game schedule I don't know but these supposed "new" rules all you Steeler Trolls are bitching about have been around for several years. Go cry in your panzy azz, rapist milk and find somewhere better than a BROWNS board to post your crap. ( I know I know you chose a crap team so you feel like you can be a part of something special by hanging around here all day...)

    And TJ Ward will get fined again... He was close Sunday on one hit. Hes a Beastly Tackler man. It will come. Look at his College highlights.... LOTS of Helmet shots.

  • @bringbackbrownie2 said:

    It wasn't a late hit call so releasing the ball makes no difference. If you lower your head (or lead with your head whatever you want to call it) the refs will call it every time. That's why he was fined. That is why he keeps getting fined. You can still hit hard and continue being a physical player without leading with your head.. The browns defense hits hard yet stays within the rules like the other 30 teams in the league that play by the rules.. Harrison, Hines Ward, and Tomlin can cry and moan all they want but the bottom line is that if Harrison doesn't want to get fined, he should play by the rules...

    Waht a Load of S***...EVERY Defense has guys that Hit with a part of the Helmet....dont act like PITTSBURGH is the Only team that has this issue. Did you Play ?? I Know in Warren we were taught to "Put our Head in there" Not SPEAR .... But look at your Target and Hit it. Helmet to Helmet I understand that (Though MANY Times its nobodys FAULT...as BOTH Players are moving thier heads.) But Helmet to Back , Leg , Chest ?? on an UPRIGHT Target who is trying to Beat your teams A** ??? Whatever... thats Not Football. Get out the Powder Puffs you "panty~wastes" !!

    @bunsofsteel08 said:

    Waht a Load of S***...EVERY Defense has guys that Hit with a part of the Helmet....dont act like PITTSBURGH is the Only team that has this issue. Did you Play ?? I Know in Warren we were taught to "Put our Head in there" Not SPEAR .... But look at your Target and Hit it. Helmet to Helmet I understand that (Though MANY Times its nobodys FAULT...as BOTH Players are moving thier heads.) But Helmet to Back , Leg , Chest ?? on an UPRIGHT Target who is trying to Beat your teams A** ??? Whatever... thats Not Football. Get out the Powder Puffs you "panty~wastes" !!

    Actually, the only puffing going on here is by you:

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    Let's face it, your boy James....our boy really, because he went to High School not 3 miles from where I sit....is probably soon going to learn a lesson he may regret. You go helmet first on a tackle and hit it like a ramrod it is very likely that it will be your vertebrae that gets snapped. So be it if that is what he.....and apparently you....want.