Edwards wants out of Cleveland?
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Am I missing something here?
He said "I DO want to be here....but that does not always happen"
In the context of being unhappy about TRADE RUMORS.
As for the fans and media comment...so what. He still said he WANTS TO BE HERE. He has NEVER asked for a trade (like K2 did, before he wanted to be here).
And to be honest...he was marked here pretty good by the fans (comments about typical Michigan WR come to mind) and the media (pretty brutal EXCEPT for last year)....
I'm sorry, from the little blurb that Walker posted it sounds more like he wants to stay but thinks he is going to get shipped off.
But hey, maybe I'm missing something.
The title of his article would imply the quote is disingenuous? Maybe BE's sentiment was "I wan't to be here, but nobody else wants me here, and they haven't since draft day when I become a marked man, so if I play somewhere else, so be it".
It does make you wonder if this writer was present to judge the tone in BE's voice and see his body language.
The title of his article would imply the quote is disingenuous? Maybe BE's sentiment was "I wan't to be here, but nobody else wants me here, and they haven't since draft day when I become a marked man, so if I play somewhere else, so be it".
It does make you wonder if this writer was present to judge the tone in BE's voice and see his body language.
I agree, however the problem I got with him saying anything is he has an ok game not a great game but an ok game and he feels justified to open his mouth. This season and what's happening is not all about him. Granted he has been a large part of their failure. Doesn't he lead the NFL in dropped passes? I for one do not want to see him go but instead of throwing a pity party for himself he needs to suck it up. Right now I do not know of many teams willing to bring in the leagues leading pass dropper. The only 2 players who should be able to say anything is Cribbs and Dawson. The fans are pissed!!!! We all are so freaking tired of being one rung above Detroit as the leagues laughing stock. If we are going to win and I mean win right now I hate to say it but we need Bill the Chin. He is the only coach who can come into the system and personnel that we have in place, in the AFC north and be successful. I can't stand to go through a whole dismantling of the team again. No more new systems. Do not bring in Marty or another unproven coordinator go get Bill no matter what the cost. DO IT RIGHT NOW!!! GET NEXT SEASON STARTED THE DAY THIS ONE IS OVER!!! No more building years. We have talent. We need a coach who inspires the players to play smash mouth football, AFC North football. If we want to improve the outlook for the players then we have to bring in a confidence builder. The players know Cowher can win in the AFC north he knows the teams and if we want to beat the Steelers who better to direct that than the man who coached them for years. Here is what will happen next year if a new coach with an unproven new system comes in... Brady will become the biggest bust in Cleveland since Tim Couch, we will have a guaranteed losing season, and Phil Savage will lose his job. IF YOU WANT THE FANS TO BELIEVE GIVE US A REASON...GIVE US A COACH THAT WE HAVE CONFIDENCE IN. I WANT A WINNING TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!
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He is far from alone, at least give him credit for having the "sack" to say it. Perhaps trying to motivate the Front office to make better thought out moves. Hes a potentially geat player... surrounded by a totally dysfunctional organization. Yes he needs to step up and make the plays...but his biggest issue is LOSING. It makes you say things you might normally choke down. I would take him in Pittsburgh.
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Media - at least during last night's game, after he caught the ball a few times, the announcers did say 'he caught that one'. At one time they said nothing more, as if to infer everyone knows Braylon's story. Not sure on him, whether he needs to go or stay, but if he wants to do air guitar every time he gets into the endzone, maybe showing some class will get some respect from the fans ???
I sure liked him last year, but did'nt when he was going after Frye (like a TO wannabe) a few seasons ago. If he'd get his head straight, would like to see him stay and ressurect his value, but if he acts like he's due somethjing he's not, good luck in your new future pal.
Like many have said, a new coach with discipline would either make or break him. The good news is the 'make' results can be a great receiver.
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Media - at least during last night's game, after he caught the ball a few times, the announcers did say 'he caught that one'. At one time they said nothing more, as if to infer everyone knows Braylon's story. Not sure on him, whether he needs to go or stay, but if he wants to do air guitar every time he gets into the endzone, maybe showing some class will get some respect from the fans ???
I sure liked him last year, but did'nt when he was going after Frye (like a TO wannabe) a few seasons ago. If he'd get his head straight, would like to see him stay and ressurect his value, but if he acts like he's due somethjing he's not, good luck in your new future pal.
Like many have said, a new coach with discipline would either make or break him. The good news is the 'make' results can be a great receiver.
Media - at least during last night's game, after he caught the ball a few times, the announcers did say 'he caught that one'. At one time they said nothing more, as if to infer everyone knows Braylon's story.
Those were national announcers that said that. His comment implies that the local media is on him. i don't hear or read the local media ragging on him.
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Media - at least during last night's game, after he caught the ball a few times, the announcers did say 'he caught that one'. At one time they said nothing more, as if to infer everyone knows Braylon's story.
Those were national announcers that said that. His comment implies that the local media is on him. i don't hear or read the local media ragging on him.
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He'll change his mind once RAC is fired, Cowher is hired.......and Anderson is traded.
Why post asinine fantasy? Cowher isn't coming to Cleveland. Do you REALLY think Cowher would let a CNUT like Phil Savage control the outcome of his success?
Until Phil Sewage is fired, aint shit happening.
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Lets see how he feels in 30 days.
This is a cry out for change within the whole organization, there are players who strive for excellence and then there are those who are just happy to be there.
If Lerner wants to kep the good ones he must hire excellent Coaches and an Excellent GM.
Otherwise it is all a wash.
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Why talk about anything other than being a Cleveland Browns?
Is he a Cleveland Brown or not?
Anyone that draws attention to themselves as a victim after the piss-poor execution he put forth this season is a (Michigan) asshole. If you want to be a Cleveland Brown then strap it on, if you are wishy-washy about wanting to be here, then get the fook out.
I could give two-shits about Edwards ... he's a one year wonder. He's our best receiver, but we suck (insert golf clap).
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What I feel about receivers that want to get treated like a Jerry Rice is they're NOT a Jerry Rice if they're dropping passes.
You want to run your mouth, bring your A game and step up to the plate.
Catch the DAMN BALL, work hard in the offseason and get it together.
If you don't want to work to be a star, don't expect to be treated like one.
If you're going to half ass it get thicker skin and stop crying you're getting booed for underperforming.
You're NOT a marked man because you came from that team up North OSU has wiped its ass with every season since Jim took over. You're a marked man because you decided to lead the league in drops.
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Most.....Not ALL...of BE's drops were on him. There were some that could have been thrown a little better. Now I am not defending the guy because in order to play at the level required you NEED to catch those balls that could have been thrown "a little better". When we have a new coaching staff next year I am sure that will be one of the issues they address. He just needs to hang in there. As a true fan, I am going to let it go in one ear and out the other where these comments are concerned. Sure these guys are upset and discouraged. They play for a team that consistently sucks year after year. They need to vent. After all....It could be worse. We could have a locker room poison known as "TO" on our team. For all his dropped balls I would still rather have BE than TO.
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Braylon Edwards DROPPED the balls. Nobody else.....BUT....
I have said this a thousand times...the WR/QB relationship is one of trust.
The QB has to trust that the WR is going to be where he is supposed to be. That the WR is running the correct route, at full speed, and making the same reads, and will catch the ball. If he doesn't trust the WR, he is NOT going to throw to him. Over the period that DA was QB, he trusted only 3 guys (evidenced by the lack of throws to other receivers), K2/BE/JJ. So obviously BE was doing what he was supposed to be doing.
The WR has to trust that the QB is going to throw the ball to the correct spot, AND not lead him into defenders to get his legs chopped out from under him or his head taken off.
Anyone watching the Browns with DA at QB realize that our receivers were routinely taking the BIG HIT. Forced to go up and get their legs taken out from under them. Wide open only to have the ball either hit the ground in front of them or fly over their head or off to the side. And when it WAS on target...especially on short passes...it had ZERO TOUCH.
Over the course of 18 games....that is going to take a toll on the WR's psyche. He is going to be afraid to go full speed. He is going to be watching for the defender. He is going to be gator arming it. Basically, he is going to be a mess and drop balls like they were hot potatoes just out of the oven.
Now, I am not saying in any way, shape or form that BE has ZERO responsibility. I am saying, however, that this is FIXABLE!!! Once he gets trust in the new QB, I anticipate him regaining the form he showed in 2007.
Right now, BE's psyche is shattered...on the field (from the above reasons), and off the field (due to the drops...and rumors of trades won't help). His statement wasn't the most intelligent thing to do right now....but I can't hold it against him just yet. He has NOT openly asked for a trade (as K2 did) or a contract renegotiation (as K2 did), and he is not injury prone (as K2 will always be).
If I am going to call either of them out, or trade either of them, it would be K2.
The drop-off between BE and our next best/available WR is FAR BIGGER than the drop off from K2 and the next best option (unless we can get Boldin...but that will cost BIG TIME). So I say we keep BE, mend his broken psyche with a big dose of BQ's accuracy, and trade K2 and his trade asking/new contract wanting/broken down body and get some draft picks.
Just my opinion.
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Braylon, don't let the door hit you on the way out. As I've said many times, I hang several losses this year personally on his dropped passes and poor route running.
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What I feel about receivers that want to get treated like a Jerry Rice is they're NOT a Jerry Rice if they're dropping passes.
You want to run your mouth, bring your A game and step up to the plate.
Catch the DAMN BALL, work hard in the offseason and get it together.
If you don't want to work to be a star, don't expect to be treated like one.
If you're going to half ass it get thicker skin and stop crying you're getting booed for underperforming.
You're NOT a marked man because you came from that team up North OSU has wiped its ass with every season since Jim took over. You're a marked man because you decided to lead the league in drops.
What I feel about receivers that want to get treated like a Jerry Rice is they're NOT a Jerry Rice if they're dropping passes.
You want to run your mouth, bring your A game and step up to the plate.
Catch the DAMN BALL, work hard in the offseason and get it together.
If you don't want to work to be a stat, don't expect to be treated like one.
If you're going to half ass it get thicker skin and stop crying you're getting booed for underperforming.
You're NOT a marked man because you came from that team up North OSU has wiped its ass with every season since Jim took over. You're a marked man because you decided to lead the league in drops.
BLAAAOW!!
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One thing we know. This is Braylon. It was the knock on him at Michigan and its the knock on him here. He's hot-cold and ranges from circus catches to bread-basket drops.
The Browns just need to decide if this is what they want. Given the current Browns WR's, I'd vote stick with BE, get rid of Stallworth, hope JJ returns and get a new WR in the draft or via FA.
Can't we get one of the millions of Lions 1st WR draft picks?

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One thing we know. This is Braylon. It was the knock on him at Michigan and its the knock on him here. He's hot-cold and ranges from circus catches to bread-basket drops.
The Browns just need to decide if this is what they want. Given the current Browns WR's, I'd vote stick with BE, get rid of Stallworth, hope JJ returns and get a new WR in the draft or via FA.
Can't we get one of the millions of Lions 1st WR draft picks?

One thing we know. This is Braylon. It was the knock on him at Michigan and its the knock on him here. He's hot-cold and ranges from circus catches to bread-basket drops.
The Browns just need to decide if this is what they want. Given the current Browns WR's, I'd vote stick with BE, get rid of Stallworth, hope JJ returns and get a new WR in the draft or via FA.
Can't we get one of the millions of Lions 1st WR draft picks?

I agree....we need to get a POSSESSION RECEIVER...even if JJ comes back he is a one year rental and may not make it through the year on a knee with 7 surgeries.
K2 could get us that type of receiver in trade.
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Braylon Edwards DROPPED the balls. Nobody else.....BUT....
I have said this a thousand times...the WR/QB relationship is one of trust.
The QB has to trust that the WR is going to be where he is supposed to be. That the WR is running the correct route, at full speed, and making the same reads, and will catch the ball. If he doesn't trust the WR, he is NOT going to throw to him. Over the period that DA was QB, he trusted only 3 guys (evidenced by the lack of throws to other receivers), K2/BE/JJ. So obviously BE was doing what he was supposed to be doing.
The WR has to trust that the QB is going to throw the ball to the correct spot, AND not lead him into defenders to get his legs chopped out from under him or his head taken off.
Anyone watching the Browns with DA at QB realize that our receivers were routinely taking the BIG HIT. Forced to go up and get their legs taken out from under them. Wide open only to have the ball either hit the ground in front of them or fly over their head or off to the side. And when it WAS on target...especially on short passes...it had ZERO TOUCH.
Over the course of 18 games....that is going to take a toll on the WR's psyche. He is going to be afraid to go full speed. He is going to be watching for the defender. He is going to be gator arming it. Basically, he is going to be a mess and drop balls like they were hot potatoes just out of the oven.
Now, I am not saying in any way, shape or form that BE has ZERO responsibility. I am saying, however, that this is FIXABLE!!! Once he gets trust in the new QB, I anticipate him regaining the form he showed in 2007.
Right now, BE's psyche is shattered...on the field (from the above reasons), and off the field (due to the drops...and rumors of trades won't help). His statement wasn't the most intelligent thing to do right now....but I can't hold it against him just yet. He has NOT openly asked for a trade (as K2 did) or a contract renegotiation (as K2 did), and he is not injury prone (as K2 will always be).
If I am going to call either of them out, or trade either of them, it would be K2.
The drop-off between BE and our next best/available WR is FAR BIGGER than the drop off from K2 and the next best option (unless we can get Boldin...but that will cost BIG TIME). So I say we keep BE, mend his broken psyche with a big dose of BQ's accuracy, and trade K2 and his trade asking/new contract wanting/broken down body and get some draft picks.
Just my opinion.
Anyone watching the Browns with DA at QB realize that our receivers were routinely taking the BIG HIT.
In related news, anyone watching WPB realizes that he is the BIG GAY.
This bullshit argument is for the truly sincerely "GAY FOR BQ" crowd who learned to break down QB play sometime after watching DA toss 29 TDs and then dreaming that it was easy.
The idea that a QB causes a WR to be afraid to catch the ball is similar to saying that there's a single BQ fan who remembers the real reason BQ got pulled vs the Texans (no it was not the owie on his fingie).
The real reason WPB makes these twisted subjective claims promoting BQ love and DA hate is that he is SCARED SHITLESS that whoever the new coach is will keep DA on the team which would mean that the golden boy would once again have his ass planted on the bench, or worse yet, traded to the Chiefs.
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One thing we know. This is Braylon. It was the knock on him at Michigan and its the knock on him here. He's hot-cold and ranges from circus catches to bread-basket drops.
The Browns just need to decide if this is what they want. Given the current Browns WR's, I'd vote stick with BE, get rid of Stallworth, hope JJ returns and get a new WR in the draft or via FA.
Can't we get one of the millions of Lions 1st WR draft picks?

I agree....we need to get a POSSESSION RECEIVER...even if JJ comes back he is a one year rental and may not make it through the year on a knee with 7 surgeries.
K2 could get us that type of receiver in trade.
I agree....we need to get a POSSESSION RECEIVER...even if JJ comes back he is a one year rental and may not make it through the year on a knee with 7 surgeries.
K2 could get us that type of receiver in trade.
If BQ is the QB then no need to trade K2. He is incredible at standing 3 yds past the line of scrimmage in between two LBs.
K2 would get 100 balls if BQ was the QB. Just like when Frye was there, Kellen is the checkdown receiver of a Dink and Dunker's dreams.
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I agree....we need to get a POSSESSION RECEIVER...even if JJ comes back he is a one year rental and may not make it through the year on a knee with 7 surgeries.
K2 could get us that type of receiver in trade.
If BQ is the QB then no need to trade K2. He is incredible at standing 3 yds past the line of scrimmage in between two LBs.
K2 would get 100 balls if BQ was the QB. Just like when Frye was there, Kellen is the checkdown receiver of a Dink and Dunker's dreams.
If BQ is the QB then no need to trade K2. He is incredible at standing 3 yds past the line of scrimmage in between two LBs.
K2 would get 100 balls if BQ was the QB. Just like when Frye was there, Kellen is the checkdown receiver of a Dink and Dunker's dreams.
I guess that explains his 82 receptions last year?
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Anyone watching the Browns with DA at QB realize that our receivers were routinely taking the BIG HIT.
In related news, anyone watching WPB realizes that he is the BIG GAY.
This bullshit argument is for the truly sincerely "GAY FOR BQ" crowd who learned to break down QB play sometime after watching DA toss 29 TDs and then dreaming that it was easy.
The idea that a QB causes a WR to be afraid to catch the ball is similar to saying that there's a single BQ fan who remembers the real reason BQ got pulled vs the Texans (no it was not the owie on his fingie).
The real reason WPB makes these twisted subjective claims promoting BQ love and DA hate is that he is SCARED SHITLESS that whoever the new coach is will keep DA on the team which would mean that the golden boy would once again have his ass planted on the bench, or worse yet, traded to the Chiefs.
In related news, anyone watching WPB realizes that he is the BIG GAY.
This bullshit argument is for the truly sincerely "GAY FOR BQ" crowd who learned to break down QB play sometime after watching DA toss 29 TDs and then dreaming that it was easy.
The idea that a QB causes a WR to be afraid to catch the ball is similar to saying that there's a single BQ fan who remembers the real reason BQ got pulled vs the Texans (no it was not the owie on his fingie).
The real reason WPB makes these twisted subjective claims promoting BQ love and DA hate is that he is SCARED SHITLESS that whoever the new coach is will keep DA on the team which would mean that the golden boy would once again have his ass planted on the bench, or worse yet, traded to the Chiefs.
And again...you whiff. It is a shame all our old stuff is gone...because otherwise I would tell you to go back and look at my posts. I HATE ND. I was AGAINST drafting BQ. I was AGAINST putting him in all of 2007. I was AGAINST putting him in until the second half of the season and DA had proven he couldn't get this team going...and it was apparent he was NOT the answer.
So, if that is gay love....I confess.
However, when a guy is failing miserably and you continue to back him despite over an entire seasons worth of below average play confirms that he is failing miserably and that guy just happens to come from your home town...well...THAT IS COMPLETE HOMERISM...and you have no place to call anyone anything.
Buck up smiley, he may go to Seattle...so it would be in your own time zone and you can drool over him more often.
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