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Coach Josh McDaniels has been fired

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  • @bodogjoe said:

    I cant say I was a fan of Mcdaniels. But I HATE the current state of football. College or Pros. People always wanting to hang the coach first when team performs badly. Takes time to recruit or draft the people you want to run the type of team you want. You cannot expect to fire a coach every two years and be successful. I was never a big fan of Mangini, but I am glad that Holmgren stuck with him and let things play out to see how he does.

    The similarity is both McDaniels and Mangini dismantled their respective teams- but Josh did a horrible job of getting value in return. Do you realize McDaniels dumped his leading passer (Cutler) rusher (Hillis) and receiver (Marshall) in one fell swoop? No wonder the Denver fans were ready to riot.

    If we can assume Hillis goes on to a couple more 1,000 yard rushing seasons, and Quinn continues to languish on the Bronco's bench- you can make a case of that being one of the worst trades in the history of the NFL.

    @hoorta said:

    The similarity is both McDaniels and Mangini both dismantled their respective teams- but Josh did a horrible job of getting value in return. Do you realize McDaniels dumped his leading passer (Cutler) rusher (Hillis) and receiver (Marshall) in one fell swoop? No wonder the Denver fans were ready to riot.

    with mangini dismantling the browns, you had a pretty good idea of what he was working towards. i never sensed that at all with mcdaniels.

  • here's my question: where would tim tebow have been drafted had mcdaniels not been in charge? it could be the difference of millions to tebow. mcdaniels, in my opinion, mcdaniels made st. tebow millions more than he deserves.

  • Hey Denver, where should I send my resume?

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  • Some people are just not meant to be head coaches.

  • OK, so, why would not these "Championship caliber head coaches out there not be candidates for any HC job in the NFL that opens up.

    You have Brian Billick, Bill Cowher, John Gruden etc, none of whom have ruled out coming back to coaching available.

    A couple, like Tony Dungy, Parcell, Johnson, etc. who have won have declared no interest in getting back into it, but what about those who may be?

    If by chance the Browns job should open up (and I don't think it should), why would not Gruden, Cowher, and Billick not be prime candidates?

  • here's my question: where would tim tebow have been drafted had mcdaniels not been in charge? it could be the difference of millions to tebow. mcdaniels, in my opinion, mcdaniels made st. tebow millions more than he deserves.

    @clevelandfanforlife said:

    here's my question: where would tim tebow have been drafted had mcdaniels not been in charge? it could be the difference of millions to tebow. mcdaniels, in my opinion, mcdaniels made st. tebow millions more than he deserves.

    My wild guess is Timmuh would have gone about where the Pickle got taken- or lower.

    Right now I would probably be willing to be a sizable chunk of change McCoy will have a far more productive career than Tebow.

  • OK, so, why would not these "Championship caliber head coaches out there not be candidates for any HC job in the NFL that opens up.

    You have Brian Billick, Bill Cowher, John Gruden etc, none of whom have ruled out coming back to coaching available.

    A couple, like Tony Dungy, Parcell, Johnson, etc. who have won have declared no interest in getting back into it, but what about those who may be?

    If by chance the Browns job should open up (and I don't think it should), why would not Gruden, Cowher, and Billick not be prime candidates?

    @the-gipper said:

    If by chance the Browns job should open up (and I don't think it should), why would not Gruden, Cowher, and Billick not be prime candidates?

    You forgot both Fox and Fisher are highly likely to be looking for employment after the season- and I'd take either over any of the above named.

    Maybe only Gruden with huge reservations- because of his connection with Holmgren. Cower will take the Carolina job or none, and they don't call him Brian Bill-dick for nothing- definitely no thanks there.

  • @clevelandfanforlife said:

    here's my question: where would tim tebow have been drafted had mcdaniels not been in charge? it could be the difference of millions to tebow. mcdaniels, in my opinion, mcdaniels made st. tebow millions more than he deserves.

    My wild guess is Timmuh would have gone about where the Pickle got taken- or lower.

    Right now I would probably be willing to be a sizable chunk of change McCoy will have a far more productive career than Tebow.

    @hoorta said:

    My wild guess is Timmuh would have gone about where the Pickle got taken- or lower.

    Right now I would probably be willing to be a sizable chunk of change McCoy will have a far more productive career than Tebow.

    Just curious....who is "The Pickle"? Probably Clausen right?

  • OK, so, why would not these "Championship caliber head coaches out there not be candidates for any HC job in the NFL that opens up.

    You have Brian Billick, Bill Cowher, John Gruden etc, none of whom have ruled out coming back to coaching available.

    A couple, like Tony Dungy, Parcell, Johnson, etc. who have won have declared no interest in getting back into it, but what about those who may be?

    If by chance the Browns job should open up (and I don't think it should), why would not Gruden, Cowher, and Billick not be prime candidates?

    @the-gipper said:

    OK, so, why would not these "Championship caliber head coaches out there not be candidates for any HC job in the NFL that opens up.

    You have Brian Billick, Bill Cowher, John Gruden etc, none of whom have ruled out coming back to coaching available.

    A couple, like Tony Dungy, Parcell, Johnson, etc. who have won have declared no interest in getting back into it, but what about those who may be?

    If by chance the Browns job should open up (and I don't think it should), why would not Gruden, Cowher, and Billick not be prime candidates?

    Gruden is a terrible coach. Somehow he got the Raiders to buy into his scheme, and got Dungy's team to buy into his scheme, and he went to and won a superbowl. But he antagonizes and alienates players on a large, large scale. Not just one or two here and there, but the entire team.

    Billick is an egomaniac who thinks he's superior to everyone, and because of that, he won't get another job.

    Cowher would be a good option though.

    I remember him as Marty's special teams coach running down the sideline during a KR/PR. That dude has the intensity you like to see in a head coach.

  • @the-gipper said:

    OK, so, why would not these "Championship caliber head coaches out there not be candidates for any HC job in the NFL that opens up.

    You have Brian Billick, Bill Cowher, John Gruden etc, none of whom have ruled out coming back to coaching available.

    A couple, like Tony Dungy, Parcell, Johnson, etc. who have won have declared no interest in getting back into it, but what about those who may be?

    If by chance the Browns job should open up (and I don't think it should), why would not Gruden, Cowher, and Billick not be prime candidates?

    Gruden is a terrible coach. Somehow he got the Raiders to buy into his scheme, and got Dungy's team to buy into his scheme, and he went to and won a superbowl. But he antagonizes and alienates players on a large, large scale. Not just one or two here and there, but the entire team.

    Billick is an egomaniac who thinks he's superior to everyone, and because of that, he won't get another job.

    Cowher would be a good option though.

    I remember him as Marty's special teams coach running down the sideline during a KR/PR. That dude has the intensity you like to see in a head coach.

    @thaak said:

    Gruden is a terrible coach. Somehow he got the Raiders to buy into his scheme, and got Dungy's team to buy into his scheme, and he went to and won a superbowl. But he antagonizes and alienates players on a large, large scale. Not just one or two here and there, but the entire team.

    Billick is an egomaniac who thinks he's superior to everyone, and because of that, he won't get another job.

    Cowher would be a good option though.

    I remember him as Marty's special teams coach running down the sideline during a KR/PR. That dude has the intensity you like to see in a head coach.

    I am on the mangini bandwagon, but if Cowher picks up the phone and calls Lerner, I will help mangini pack his bags myself.

  • @hoorta said:

    My wild guess is Timmuh would have gone about where the Pickle got taken- or lower.

    Right now I would probably be willing to be a sizable chunk of change McCoy will have a far more productive career than Tebow.

    Just curious....who is "The Pickle"? Probably Clausen right?

    @the-gipper said:

    Just curious....who is "The Pickle"? Probably Clausen right?

    But of course- I've got a big jar of Clausen pickles (always fresh- keep refrigerated at all times) in the cooler even as we speak. You ought to try some sometime-they're far better pickles than Clausen will ever be an NFL QB IMHO. Check the refrigerated section at the local Giant Eagle and try one sometime.