Bye Bye Mangini
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All you have to do is go back and look at ANY Browns game or games from before Mangini got here to see that the guy is rebuilding this the right way. No HC is right 100 percent of the time, the difference is, most teams have the talent to overcome "bad calls"; we don't. He should get one more year with better talent. If he goes 1-5, then fire him. But I for one do not want to see another tear down and rebuild of this team.
When are you ppl gonna understand...Its Heckert and Holmgren building the team...not Mandoodoo.
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Keep Mangini, and for Pete's sake, get a NEW OC, and give him SOMETHING to work with!
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Making a Vanilla Ice reference? Wow. Now I know you are either a Steeler troll or 12 years old.
Hey! Vanilla Ice lives in my buddy's neighborhood. He's a boss lol
Hey! Vanilla Ice lives in my buddy's neighborhood. He's a boss lol
What trailer park?
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Keep Mangini, and for Pete's sake, get a NEW OC, and give him SOMETHING to work with!
Keep Mangini, and for Pete's sake, get a NEW OC, and give him SOMETHING to work with!
Yeah lets keep Mandoodoo so we can keep playing for FG's...no thanks...I want a coach with a winner mentallity...Mandoodoo doesnt quite get that...If you listened to coach Sam on the point after last night he said it best...Mangini plays for FG's in a touchdown league and he couldnt have been more right.
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All you have to do is go back and look at ANY Browns game or games from before Mangini got here to see that the guy is rebuilding this the right way. No HC is right 100 percent of the time, the difference is, most teams have the talent to overcome "bad calls"; we don't. He should get one more year with better talent. If he goes 1-5, then fire him. But I for one do not want to see another tear down and rebuild of this team.
When are you ppl gonna understand...Its Heckert and Holmgren building the team...not Mandoodoo.
When are you ppl gonna understand...Its Heckert and Holmgren building the team...not Mandoodoo.
Mangini should get a ton of credit (and respect) for cleaning house and setting the table for Holmgren & Heckert. All coaches before him went for the quick fix, kept things running poorly as usual and tweaked. Mangini cleaned the locker room up with wholesale changes, ousted the pre-Madonna's and high salaries and paved the way for Heckert & Holmgren to come in and build on the foundation.
Mangini did the heavy lifting so far, give the guy a chance. I think he derserves it.
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Mangini will certainly be gone..
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Mangini will certainly be gone..
Mangini will certainly be gone..
OOOooohhhhh ... not the big internet 'epetition'. I bet Holmgren has just been waiting for this suportive online document in order to have the balls to make this move.
(At the top of the page it reads, "2 people signed the petition since October 30, 2009")
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Mangini will certainly be gone..
Mangini will certainly be gone..
Sweet 2 down, 3 to go.
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Mangini will certainly be gone..
OOOooohhhhh ... not the big internet 'epetition'. I bet Holmgren has just been waiting for this suportive online document in order to have the balls to make this move.
(At the top of the page it reads, "2 people signed the petition since October 30, 2009")
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Mangini will certainly be gone..
Mangini will certainly be gone..
i like the note at the top: 2 people have signed this petition since october 2009. big impact!
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Mangini will certainly be gone..
i like the note at the top: 2 people have signed this petition since october 2009. big impact!
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When are you ppl gonna understand...Its Heckert and Holmgren building the team...not Mandoodoo.
Mangini should get a ton of credit (and respect) for cleaning house and setting the table for Holmgren & Heckert. All coaches before him went for the quick fix, kept things running poorly as usual and tweaked. Mangini cleaned the locker room up with wholesale changes, ousted the pre-Madonna's and high salaries and paved the way for Heckert & Holmgren to come in and build on the foundation.
Mangini did the heavy lifting so far, give the guy a chance. I think he derserves it.
Mangini should get a ton of credit (and respect) for cleaning house and setting the table for Holmgren & Heckert. All coaches before him went for the quick fix, kept things running poorly as usual and tweaked. Mangini cleaned the locker room up with wholesale changes, ousted the pre-Madonna's and high salaries and paved the way for Heckert & Holmgren to come in and build on the foundation.
Mangini did the heavy lifting so far, give the guy a chance. I think he derserves it.
I cant give someone a chance that consistently puts the team in postition to lose...Ive seen enough.
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Does anyone know if the 49ers would have to compensate us?
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/55520...Francisco_49ers
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Does anyone know if the 49ers would have to compensate us?
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/55520...Francisco_49ers
Does anyone know if the 49ers would have to compensate us?
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/55520...Francisco_49ers
who the F is: Brian Murtaugh (Browns Featured Columnist)?
sounds like another wannabe journalist who writes jibberish from his basement. more conjecture.
no matter what side you fall on (fire mangini/pro-mangini) i guess we'll find out soon enough what will happen with this situation.
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Seems to me like we are on the same basic page all around. And that is why my gut tells me Holmgren will have a new coach next year
Well ok I took your comments to mean you were for everything offense and that defense was an afterthought.. I think everyone can agree that Daboll is gone no matter what.. Mangini could be gone in a little over a week too, but maybe Holmgren would help Mangini find a better offensive coordinator. Everyone seemed to think Mangini was fired last year, so maybe it won't happen this year either? I really don't know. We will find out soon enough...
Ryan stays unless he gets a head coach offer (I bet he has to wait another year or two).
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Does anyone know if the 49ers would have to compensate us?
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/55520...Francisco_49ers
who the F is: Brian Murtaugh (Browns Featured Columnist)?
sounds like another wannabe journalist who writes jibberish from his basement. more conjecture.
no matter what side you fall on (fire mangini/pro-mangini) i guess we'll find out soon enough what will happen with this situation.
who the F is: Brian Murtaugh (Browns Featured Columnist)?
sounds like another wannabe journalist who writes jibberish from his basement. more conjecture.
no matter what side you fall on (fire mangini/pro-mangini) i guess we'll find out soon enough what will happen with this situation.
He calls himself a "browns featured columnist" and writes that?!
Does he know anything about Holmgren and the Browns?! That is some embarrassing bull**** right there haha. If Holmgren did that, he would lose a TON of respect around the NFL... We have him under contract for like 5 or so years too. A 49er columnist probably wouldn't write something like this either. seriously... this is why you don't believe everything you read. -
This guy took time to write this?
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This guy took time to write this?
This guy took time to write this?
Who knows it all BS, them writing stories because they dont know have anything else to do. I just read a story that Gruden would go to the Vikings and talk Brett Farve to come back and play for another season..
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there are going to be a lot of coaching vacancies without even mentioning the browns.
san fran, carolina, tennessee, denver, maybe houston, maybe dallas and miami? minnesota?
where are all these high profile, top-of-the-line coaches supposed to be coming from? who's going to be available that is guaranteed to turn a team around in two years? gruden, cowher, fisher, maybe jim harbaugh?
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All you have to do is go back and look at ANY Browns game or games from before Mangini got here to see that the guy is rebuilding this the right way. No HC is right 100 percent of the time, the difference is, most teams have the talent to overcome "bad calls"; we don't. He should get one more year with better talent. If he goes 1-5, then fire him. But I for one do not want to see another tear down and rebuild of this team.
When are you ppl gonna understand...Its Heckert and Holmgren building the team...not Mandoodoo.
When are you ppl gonna understand...Its Heckert and Holmgren building the team...not Mandoodoo.
Mangini started it with the roster purging and fixing the cap nightmare left behind by Savage. And by all documented accounts, Mangini had more to do with the last draft than Holmgren save for McCoy. Not to mention the attitude and identity has been drastically improved in just two years! That is on the head coach and he alone. We all know that if succeed Holmgren will get the credit, and he should get some, but if we fail, Mangini will get hung and Holmgren will get away unscaithed. That's the dynamic here. But don't forget so quickly what a mess of an entire orginization Mangini walked into just two years ago and look at it now. The dude is a really good coach and none of us should want to watch this team get torn down and rebuilt again. Just like last year, I have faith that Holmgren is smart enough to keep Mangini and I expect to have that faith validated again this year. Difference being, the announcement will come much sooner this time.
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