Bye Bye Mangini
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It could. I think in the Browns case a long lockout might help Mangini. However, Holmgren could always say he's gonna coach and the Browns could save paying out Mangini's contract for next year. That all fits with the Chucky in 2012 other talking heads have stated. I suspect Holmgren and Lerner already know what they're going to do and will work around the lockout, if there is one, whichever way they go.
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junkyard dawg: remind never to get on your bad side!
i mean it's not even a fair fight anymore.
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It could. I think in the Browns case a long lockout might help Mangini. However, Holmgren could always say he's gonna coach and the Browns could save paying out Mangini's contract for next year. That all fits with the Chucky in 2012 other talking heads have stated. I suspect Holmgren and Lerner already know what they're going to do and will work around the lockout, if there is one, whichever way they go.
It could. I think in the Browns case a long lockout might help Mangini. However, Holmgren could always say he's gonna coach and the Browns could save paying out Mangini's contract for next year. That all fits with the Chucky in 2012 other talking heads have stated. I suspect Holmgren and Lerner already know what they're going to do and will work around the lockout, if there is one, whichever way they go.
Absolutely.
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Yeah, they already know what will happen & the Pburgh game will make no difference. I'm sure that whatever the decision may be, it won't include throwing money out the window. What gets me is the damned media saying we'll know Mangini's future next MONDAY! That may happen, but I would be surprised if their decision is announced that soon. If the decision is to keep him on the payroll due to the CB agreement, we might not know for a LONG time.
We'll just have to wait & see.
Mike
IN DORSEY I TRUST -
One of the talking radio heads today said that several coaches who could be in trouble might survive this year because of the player union contract situation. His rational was that teams will not pay two coaches during a year they might not even field a team. I think this does make sense. Do you think it would influence lerner/holmgren after lerner has already paid off a bunch of money after firing people?
Do you think it would influence lerner/holmgren after lerner has already paid off a bunch of money after firing people?
yes, besides the contracts he already has in place.
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Yeah, they already know what will happen & the Pburgh game will make no difference. I'm sure that whatever the decision may be, it won't include throwing money out the window. What gets me is the damned media saying we'll know Mangini's future next MONDAY! That may happen, but I would be surprised if their decision is announced that soon. If the decision is to keep him on the payroll due to the CB agreement, we might not know for a LONG time.
We'll just have to wait & see.
Mike
Yeah, they already know what will happen & the Pburgh game will make no difference. I'm sure that whatever the decision may be, it won't include throwing money out the window. What gets me is the damned media saying we'll know Mangini's future next MONDAY! That may happen, but I would be surprised if their decision is announced that soon. If the decision is to keep him on the payroll due to the CB agreement, we might not know for a LONG time.
We'll just have to wait & see.
Mike
Honestly i would be concerned if the decision isnt rendered by monday, whatever their decision there has been plenty of time for holmgren and heckert to evaluate the situation and inform lerner of their decision and if the decision isnt already made than our czar is just another slacker and yet another bad hire by lerner and a waste of my time and hope of ever seeing this team go anywhere but down, however i like others actually think/hope the decision is already made as its not rocket science...
And as far as a lockout is concerned, its not going to happen...
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Mangini's only strategy and plan is to try and convince people he can get it done over the next 10 years 2 years at a time...but he cant because he is a fraud, i understand the rational behind the thinking but i recognize how limited mangini's capabilities are and the weaknesses within his stubborn philosophy, every sunday the guys gameplan represents an open book to his opponents and he is just outsmarted in nearly every aspect of the game, people blame it on talent but 50% comes from a lack of good sensible coaching and bad decisions including a bad and corrupted ingenuous system that bottlenecks potential hot/spark players from seeing the field until they are needed due to injury and then they arent prepared.....
Keep the weeni fire the weeni i dont care anymore browns football isnt what it use to be even though it never was great at least it was respectable and was ran in a professional manner its just a bad national joke and a never ending fans nightmare now..
Keeping or firing the weeni will both bring great risk to holmgrens integrity and reputation, if we retain the weeni and he gets roasted a 3rd year fans are going to start wanting to eat some roasted feeble minded west coast walrus meat, however the same risk applies to bringing a new coach in and failing even worse or better yet coaching himself into a 3-15 season..
Its a big decision but if im holmgren and know how bad mangini is i fire him and coach myself because there is no way holmgren does as poor a job as mangini when it comes to improvising on the field and winning with what you have...
I was a mangini supporter and am a holmgrem supporter but the fact holmgren has done absolutely nothing thusfar on the football end is starting to leave that tainted bad lerner hire taste in my mouth, regardless of which way holmgren goes on mangini if it turns out to be the wrong decision at the end of next year i will be verbally holding lerner responsible and would advise all fans to do so...
We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS! -
Mangini's only strategy and plan is to try and convince people he can get it done over the next 10 years 2 years at a time...but he cant because he is a fraud, i understand the rational behind the thinking but i recognize how limited mangini's capabilities are and the weaknesses within his stubborn philosophy, every sunday the guys gameplan represents an open book to his opponents and he is just outsmarted in nearly every aspect of the game, people blame it on talent but 50% comes from a lack of good sensible coaching and bad decisions including a bad and corrupted ingenuous system that bottlenecks potential hot/spark players from seeing the field until they are needed due to injury and then they arent prepared.....
Keep the weeni fire the weeni i dont care anymore browns football isnt what it use to be even though it never was great at least it was respectable and was ran in a professional manner its just a bad national joke and a never ending fans nightmare now..
Keeping or firing the weeni will both bring great risk to holmgrens integrity and reputation, if we retain the weeni and he gets roasted a 3rd year fans are going to start wanting to eat some roasted feeble minded west coast walrus meat, however the same risk applies to bringing a new coach in and failing even worse or better yet coaching himself into a 3-15 season..
Its a big decision but if im holmgren and know how bad mangini is i fire him and coach myself because there is no way holmgren does as poor a job as mangini when it comes to improvising on the field and winning with what you have...
I was a mangini supporter and am a holmgrem supporter but the fact holmgren has done absolutely nothing thusfar on the football end is starting to leave that tainted bad lerner hire taste in my mouth, regardless of which way holmgren goes on mangini if it turns out to be the wrong decision at the end of next year i will be verbally holding lerner responsible and would advise all fans to do so...
Mangini's only strategy and plan is to try and convince people he can get it done over the next 10 years 2 years at a time...but he cant because he is a fraud, i understand the rational behind the thinking but i recognize how limited mangini's capabilities are and the weaknesses within his stubborn philosophy, every sunday the guys gameplan represents an open book to his opponents and he is just outsmarted in nearly every aspect of the game, people blame it on talent but 50% comes from a lack of good sensible coaching and bad decisions including a bad and corrupted ingenuous system that bottlenecks potential hot/spark players from seeing the field until they are needed due to injury and then they arent prepared.....
Keep the weeni fire the weeni i dont care anymore browns football isnt what it use to be even though it never was great at least it was respectable and was ran in a professional manner its just a bad national joke and a never ending fans nightmare now..
Keeping or firing the weeni will both bring great risk to holmgrens integrity and reputation, if we retain the weeni and he gets roasted a 3rd year fans are going to start wanting to eat some roasted feeble minded west coast walrus meat, however the same risk applies to bringing a new coach in and failing even worse or better yet coaching himself into a 3-15 season..
Its a big decision but if im holmgren and know how bad mangini is i fire him and coach myself because there is no way holmgren does as poor a job as mangini when it comes to improvising on the field and winning with what you have...
I was a mangini supporter and am a holmgrem supporter but the fact holmgren has done absolutely nothing thusfar on the football end is starting to leave that tainted bad lerner hire taste in my mouth, regardless of which way holmgren goes on mangini if it turns out to be the wrong decision at the end of next year i will be verbally holding lerner responsible and would advise all fans to do so...
With that rationale you would probably want a new owner every year too huh? better yet, if we have a losing season, lets cut everyone in the organization top to bottom- owner down to the last reserve player... Super Bowl here we come!!!
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Mangini's only strategy and plan is to try and convince people he can get it done over the next 10 years 2 years at a time...but he cant because he is a fraud, i understand the rational behind the thinking but i recognize how limited mangini's capabilities are and the weaknesses within his stubborn philosophy, every sunday the guys gameplan represents an open book to his opponents and he is just outsmarted in nearly every aspect of the game, people blame it on talent but 50% comes from a lack of good sensible coaching and bad decisions including a bad and corrupted ingenuous system that bottlenecks potential hot/spark players from seeing the field until they are needed due to injury and then they arent prepared.....
Keep the weeni fire the weeni i dont care anymore browns football isnt what it use to be even though it never was great at least it was respectable and was ran in a professional manner its just a bad national joke and a never ending fans nightmare now..
Keeping or firing the weeni will both bring great risk to holmgrens integrity and reputation, if we retain the weeni and he gets roasted a 3rd year fans are going to start wanting to eat some roasted feeble minded west coast walrus meat, however the same risk applies to bringing a new coach in and failing even worse or better yet coaching himself into a 3-15 season..
Its a big decision but if im holmgren and know how bad mangini is i fire him and coach myself because there is no way holmgren does as poor a job as mangini when it comes to improvising on the field and winning with what you have...
I was a mangini supporter and am a holmgrem supporter but the fact holmgren has done absolutely nothing thusfar on the football end is starting to leave that tainted bad lerner hire taste in my mouth, regardless of which way holmgren goes on mangini if it turns out to be the wrong decision at the end of next year i will be verbally holding lerner responsible and would advise all fans to do so...
With that rationale you would probably want a new owner every year too huh? better yet, if we have a losing season, lets cut everyone in the organization top to bottom- owner down to the last reserve player... Super Bowl here we come!!!
With that rationale you would probably want a new owner every year too huh? better yet, if we have a losing season, lets cut everyone in the organization top to bottom- owner down to the last reserve player... Super Bowl here we come!!!
not only that......pretty soon they won't be satisfied if you don't come out of the gate 4-0. a quarter of the season in and let's fire everybody and start all over again. come on, now that's not only smart, but it's fun too!!! we'll have a clown car (no pun intended) drive up to the stadium every month and out pops the new regime with rubber noses and seltzer water bottles. tell me you wouldn't be there!!!
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Eric Mangini will be the Head Coach of the Cleveland Browns next year.
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Mangini isnt going anywhere this year, he won 5 games and to most browns fans and our gutless owner and president that is progress....ah hmmm the stuff that champions are made of...
As you can tell i dont care either way, i dislike mangini but can live with him as long as someone of class, knowledge and character is running the offense and mangini fuks off of trying to be an offensive guru because he isnt...
And if mangini is retained and if he tanks next year im bypassing complaints to holmgren and going straight for llerner because obviously holmgren would have been as bad a hire as mangini, now lets all kick back and prepare to enjoy an improved 6-10 record next year rather mangini is the coach or not..
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On the national level, the LA Times (Farmer) just did an article on hot seat coaches, which of course included. Mangini. Basically said he's probably one who goes because his "grind it out" style doesn't mesh with his boss', who almost certainly wants to run a WCO directed by Colt McCoy.
It's probably Holmgren's last window to coach. I'm about 95% certain he's gonna take it. Mangini said he's meeting with Holmgren on Monday and I think he'll be fired soon after.
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Let's bring this man to Cleveland:
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there is a greater chance of mangini being the coach next over holmgren. holmgren wasn't very successful in juggling HC and GM duties in seattle, why would he do the same here with an even more demanding positition like president of football operations. it just doesn't make sense to me.
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there is a greater chance of mangini being the coach next over holmgren. holmgren wasn't very successful in juggling HC and GM duties in seattle, why would he do the same here with an even more demanding positition like president of football operations. it just doesn't make sense to me.
there is a greater chance of mangini being the coach next over holmgren. holmgren wasn't very successful in juggling HC and GM duties in seattle, why would he do the same here with an even more demanding positition like president of football operations. it just doesn't make sense to me.
I don't want to see Holmgren coach just because of the fact that he will only be coaching for at most 5 years before he retires. The differeance between here and Seattle is that he is not the GM and he doesn't have to worry about drafting players and signing FA's.
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