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i really hope that this isn't true

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  • LCDawgFan13L LCDawgFan13

    With this team lacking playmakers and struggling to score points, it would be a shame to see Phil Dawson leave. He is the only consistantly reliable scorer we've have in Cleveland not named Lebron James in any sport in a long time.

    Phil, if you do indeed go, we fans will miss you. Good luck wherever you end up...unless you sign with the Steelers or Ravens. Good luck anywhere else!

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    M MudratDetector wrote on last edited by
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    @lcdawgfan13 said:

    Good luck wherever you end up...unless you sign with the Steelers or Ravens. Good luck anywhere else!

    i have to disagree with this. the guy deserves a chance to win a championship, even with a rival team. i wish phil NOTHING but the the absolute best.

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    • choco chocoC
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      chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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      Yeah....he missed a couple key field goals, something none of the other kickers in this league ever do....

      Get the bum outta here....0.831 career percentage? That's it? All time leading scorer for the browns kicking on the lake? In the snow? Time for a rookie or maybe Nick folk or john kasay.....

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      • Gips GipsG
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        GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by
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        There is a real good chance this is phil's last game as a brown and its unfortunate if we let him walk because 3 points is better than none and dawson is dependable unlike most kickers...

        We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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        • 36Bones 36Bones3
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          36Bones3 36Bones wrote on last edited by 36Bones
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          On one hand, this really stinks. I hate it when teams let productive veteran players go. On the other hand, Phil is getting older. If we really are in a rebuilding mode, this does make since to go, younger and stronger. I will miss you Phil. The Browns will miss you. Keep the wind at your back and the pigskin between the pipes.

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            Y yourdaddyaskyermom wrote on last edited by
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            Phil's been class. It always sucks when this happens.

            Hope springs eternal
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            • Bob806 Bob806B Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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              Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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              When you have a good kicker, you keep him, plain & simple. I don't care how old he is. I don't know if he'll be like Jan Stenerud or Morten Anderson, kicking into his 40s, but sign the guy for a 3 year contract, see how it goes.

              He's hit some memorable FGs....vs Pittsburgh at 3 Rivers in 1999, the unreal 48 yd one vs Buffalo in the snow in 2007 for instance. I hope it's not the end of Dawson.

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              • GipsG Gips

                There is a real good chance this is phil's last game as a brown and its unfortunate if we let him walk because 3 points is better than none and dawson is dependable unlike most kickers...

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                1 more season1 1 more season wrote on last edited by
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                @gips said:

                There is a real good chance this is phil's last game as a brown and its unfortunate if we let him walk because 3 points is better than none and dawson is dependable unlike most kickers...

                Does the "process" know you can go for more than 3?

                If Phil isn't resigned then I THANK him for 11 dependable years and wish him luck and hope he signs with a winner for at least a few more years he deserves it.

                Soccer, Futball, Fusball, Futsal, Foosball, Europe ... Mods are all gay.
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                  P pizzadeliveryguy wrote on last edited by
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                  Hate to see it. Good kickers are always taken for granted until you have a bad kicker.

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                  • WRREBEL WRREBELW
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                    WRREBELW WRREBEL wrote on last edited by
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                    Yeah espicially if Mangini stays, we will need a GOOD FG kicker and a GREAT punter

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                    • Go 'Losers Go 'LosersG
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                      Go 'LosersG Go 'Losers wrote on last edited by
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                      So long Phil, its been a great ride!

                      “Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up”
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                        B BROWNandORANGE wrote on last edited by BROWNandORANGE
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                        I would absolutely hate to see Phil go, but there is a pretty strong list of kickers that are becoming free

                        agents this off-season.

                        Ryan Longwell, MIN

                        Stephen Gostkowski, NE

                        Mason Crosby, GB

                        Adam Vinatieri, IND

                        Nick Folk, NYJ

                        David Akers, PHI

                        Olindo Mare, SEA

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                          @lcdawgfan13 said:

                          Good luck wherever you end up...unless you sign with the Steelers or Ravens. Good luck anywhere else!

                          i have to disagree with this. the guy deserves a chance to win a championship, even with a rival team. i wish phil NOTHING but the the absolute best.

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                          LCDawgFan13L LCDawgFan13 wrote on last edited by
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                          @mudratdetector said:

                          i have to disagree with this. the guy deserves a chance to win a championship, even with a rival team. i wish phil NOTHING but the the absolute best.

                          You are absolutely right!

                          Phil, good luck wherever you might end up. I just hope it's not with the Steelers or Ravens. But I wish you success wherever.

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                          • B BROWNandORANGE

                            I would absolutely hate to see Phil go, but there is a pretty strong list of kickers that are becoming free

                            agents this off-season.

                            Ryan Longwell, MIN

                            Stephen Gostkowski, NE

                            Mason Crosby, GB

                            Adam Vinatieri, IND

                            Nick Folk, NYJ

                            David Akers, PHI

                            Olindo Mare, SEA

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                            @brownandorange said:

                            I would absolutely hate to see Phil go, but there is a pretty strong list of kickers that are becoming free

                            agents this off-season.

                            Ryan Longwell, MIN

                            Stephen Gostkowski, NE

                            Mason Crosby, GB

                            Adam Vinatieri, IND

                            Nick Folk, NYJ

                            David Akers, PHI

                            Olindo Mare, SEA

                            Jeff Reed, PIT

                            jeff reed sucks. bigtime.

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                              @brownandorange said:

                              I would absolutely hate to see Phil go, but there is a pretty strong list of kickers that are becoming free

                              agents this off-season.

                              Ryan Longwell, MIN

                              Stephen Gostkowski, NE

                              Mason Crosby, GB

                              Adam Vinatieri, IND

                              Nick Folk, NYJ

                              David Akers, PHI

                              Olindo Mare, SEA

                              Jeff Reed, PIT

                              jeff reed sucks. bigtime.

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                              BrownsBackerB BrownsBacker wrote on last edited by
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                              @mudratdetector said:

                              jeff reed sucks. bigtime.

                              even steeler fans will tell you this, its just an undeniable truth.

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                              • kamac19 kamac19K One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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                                kamac19K kamac19 wrote on last edited by
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                                Think we would all like to see Dawson stay and finish his career with us, but am sure he would be expecting a good final payday to sign with us again, and maybe that money might be better pushed into a FA WR, and try to get more touchdowns rather than being forced into relying on a good placekicker to get us our points, am sure they wont go into the FA for a kicker either, as what is the point in that you will just spend the same type of money as will to bring back Dawson.

                                So if he doesnt come back, would expect a not so well known kicker or even a rookie for next season.

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                                  TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound wrote on last edited by
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                                  I will literally cry if he leaves. He is in my top 10 of best Browns of all time. Holmgren will make a HUGE mistake if he doesnt resign him, not just for his ability, but for what he means to Cleveland. For me, this would have the same magnitude as LeBron leaving. Except I will miss Phil forever.

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                                    L ledzepfan1 wrote on last edited by
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                                    I'd hate to see phil go. But he is getting older and you have to think of the positives. We are going to pick up a kicker who's young and terrible which will be excellent for us so that we are forced to go for it when it's fourth and goal on the 1 yard line. I swear, it's like we always play for field goals and not touchdowns.

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                                      medicinemanM medicineman wrote on last edited by
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                                      I like him to but it seem to me he always misses on field goals of 45 yards and longer. Having a new young kicker can't be a horrible thing

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                                      • Bob806B Bob806

                                        When you have a good kicker, you keep him, plain & simple. I don't care how old he is. I don't know if he'll be like Jan Stenerud or Morten Anderson, kicking into his 40s, but sign the guy for a 3 year contract, see how it goes.

                                        He's hit some memorable FGs....vs Pittsburgh at 3 Rivers in 1999, the unreal 48 yd one vs Buffalo in the snow in 2007 for instance. I hope it's not the end of Dawson.

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                                        slowburnS slowburn wrote on last edited by
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                                        @bob806 said:

                                        When you have a good kicker, you keep him, plain & simple. I don't care how old he is. I don't know if he'll be like Jan Stenerud or Morten Anderson, kicking into his 40s, but sign the guy for a 3 year contract, see how it goes.

                                        He's hit some memorable FGs....vs Pittsburgh at 3 Rivers in 1999, the unreal 48 yd one vs Buffalo in the snow in 2007 for instance. I hope it's not the end of Dawson.

                                        His unbelievable kick in the 07 Buffalo game is as good as it gets. Will go down in the annals as one of the greatest. Hate to see him go.

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                                        • medicinemanM medicineman

                                          I like him to but it seem to me he always misses on field goals of 45 yards and longer. Having a new young kicker can't be a horrible thing

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                                          TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound wrote on last edited by
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                                          @medicineman said:

                                          I like him to but it seem to me he always misses on field goals of 45 yards and longer. Having a new young kicker can't be a horrible thing

                                          To me its not about his kicking ability. He is all we have left that still figuratively says xxxx YOU to Art Modell. He is our only remaining 99er. He should always be on the team. Always.

                                          And if he does leave, I will take bets on how long it takes before his name is on our stadium along with the other Browns greats.

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