i really hope that this isn't true
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Phil's been class. It always sucks when this happens.
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When you have a good kicker, you keep him, plain & simple. I don't care how old he is. I don't know if he'll be like Jan Stenerud or Morten Anderson, kicking into his 40s, but sign the guy for a 3 year contract, see how it goes.
He's hit some memorable FGs....vs Pittsburgh at 3 Rivers in 1999, the unreal 48 yd one vs Buffalo in the snow in 2007 for instance. I hope it's not the end of Dawson.
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There is a real good chance this is phil's last game as a brown and its unfortunate if we let him walk because 3 points is better than none and dawson is dependable unlike most kickers...
There is a real good chance this is phil's last game as a brown and its unfortunate if we let him walk because 3 points is better than none and dawson is dependable unlike most kickers...
Does the "process" know you can go for more than 3?
If Phil isn't resigned then I THANK him for 11 dependable years and wish him luck and hope he signs with a winner for at least a few more years he deserves it.
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Hate to see it. Good kickers are always taken for granted until you have a bad kicker.
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So long Phil, its been a great ride!
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I would absolutely hate to see Phil go, but there is a pretty strong list of kickers that are becoming free
agents this off-season.
Ryan Longwell, MIN
Stephen Gostkowski, NE
Mason Crosby, GB
Adam Vinatieri, IND
Nick Folk, NYJ
David Akers, PHI
Olindo Mare, SEA
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Good luck wherever you end up...unless you sign with the Steelers or Ravens. Good luck anywhere else!
i have to disagree with this. the guy deserves a chance to win a championship, even with a rival team. i wish phil NOTHING but the the absolute best.
i have to disagree with this. the guy deserves a chance to win a championship, even with a rival team. i wish phil NOTHING but the the absolute best.
You are absolutely right!
Phil, good luck wherever you might end up. I just hope it's not with the Steelers or Ravens. But I wish you success wherever.
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I would absolutely hate to see Phil go, but there is a pretty strong list of kickers that are becoming free
agents this off-season.
Ryan Longwell, MIN
Stephen Gostkowski, NE
Mason Crosby, GB
Adam Vinatieri, IND
Nick Folk, NYJ
David Akers, PHI
Olindo Mare, SEA
I would absolutely hate to see Phil go, but there is a pretty strong list of kickers that are becoming free
agents this off-season.
Ryan Longwell, MIN
Stephen Gostkowski, NE
Mason Crosby, GB
Adam Vinatieri, IND
Nick Folk, NYJ
David Akers, PHI
Olindo Mare, SEA
Jeff Reed, PIT
jeff reed sucks. bigtime.
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I would absolutely hate to see Phil go, but there is a pretty strong list of kickers that are becoming free
agents this off-season.
Ryan Longwell, MIN
Stephen Gostkowski, NE
Mason Crosby, GB
Adam Vinatieri, IND
Nick Folk, NYJ
David Akers, PHI
Olindo Mare, SEA
Jeff Reed, PIT
jeff reed sucks. bigtime.
jeff reed sucks. bigtime.
even steeler fans will tell you this, its just an undeniable truth.
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Think we would all like to see Dawson stay and finish his career with us, but am sure he would be expecting a good final payday to sign with us again, and maybe that money might be better pushed into a FA WR, and try to get more touchdowns rather than being forced into relying on a good placekicker to get us our points, am sure they wont go into the FA for a kicker either, as what is the point in that you will just spend the same type of money as will to bring back Dawson.
So if he doesnt come back, would expect a not so well known kicker or even a rookie for next season.
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I will literally cry if he leaves. He is in my top 10 of best Browns of all time. Holmgren will make a HUGE mistake if he doesnt resign him, not just for his ability, but for what he means to Cleveland. For me, this would have the same magnitude as LeBron leaving. Except I will miss Phil forever.
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I'd hate to see phil go. But he is getting older and you have to think of the positives. We are going to pick up a kicker who's young and terrible which will be excellent for us so that we are forced to go for it when it's fourth and goal on the 1 yard line. I swear, it's like we always play for field goals and not touchdowns.
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I like him to but it seem to me he always misses on field goals of 45 yards and longer. Having a new young kicker can't be a horrible thing
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When you have a good kicker, you keep him, plain & simple. I don't care how old he is. I don't know if he'll be like Jan Stenerud or Morten Anderson, kicking into his 40s, but sign the guy for a 3 year contract, see how it goes.
He's hit some memorable FGs....vs Pittsburgh at 3 Rivers in 1999, the unreal 48 yd one vs Buffalo in the snow in 2007 for instance. I hope it's not the end of Dawson.
When you have a good kicker, you keep him, plain & simple. I don't care how old he is. I don't know if he'll be like Jan Stenerud or Morten Anderson, kicking into his 40s, but sign the guy for a 3 year contract, see how it goes.
He's hit some memorable FGs....vs Pittsburgh at 3 Rivers in 1999, the unreal 48 yd one vs Buffalo in the snow in 2007 for instance. I hope it's not the end of Dawson.
His unbelievable kick in the 07 Buffalo game is as good as it gets. Will go down in the annals as one of the greatest. Hate to see him go.
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I like him to but it seem to me he always misses on field goals of 45 yards and longer. Having a new young kicker can't be a horrible thing
I like him to but it seem to me he always misses on field goals of 45 yards and longer. Having a new young kicker can't be a horrible thing
To me its not about his kicking ability. He is all we have left that still figuratively says xxxx YOU to Art Modell. He is our only remaining 99er. He should always be on the team. Always.
And if he does leave, I will take bets on how long it takes before his name is on our stadium along with the other Browns greats.
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I like him to but it seem to me he always misses on field goals of 45 yards and longer. Having a new young kicker can't be a horrible thing
To me its not about his kicking ability. He is all we have left that still figuratively says xxxx YOU to Art Modell. He is our only remaining 99er. He should always be on the team. Always.
And if he does leave, I will take bets on how long it takes before his name is on our stadium along with the other Browns greats.
To me its not about his kicking ability. He is all we have left that still figuratively says xxxx YOU to Art Modell. He is our only remaining 99er. He should always be on the team. Always.
And if he does leave, I will take bets on how long it takes before his name is on our stadium along with the other Browns greats.
If he does leave, it won't be long before he gets picked up by another team. Way up there in FG accuracy. So he'll get at least a couple more million dollar paydays either with the Browns or some other team. The lousy thing is he needs something like 20 points to pass Don Cockroft for second place in all-time team scoring. If he had played for a decent team his entire career, he'd easily be in the top 25 all time in scoring.
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To me its not about his kicking ability. He is all we have left that still figuratively says xxxx YOU to Art Modell. He is our only remaining 99er. He should always be on the team. Always.
And if he does leave, I will take bets on how long it takes before his name is on our stadium along with the other Browns greats.
If he does leave, it won't be long before he gets picked up by another team. Way up there in FG accuracy. So he'll get at least a couple more million dollar paydays either with the Browns or some other team. The lousy thing is he needs something like 20 points to pass Don Cockroft for second place in all-time team scoring. If he had played for a decent team his entire career, he'd easily be in the top 25 all time in scoring.
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I disagree...I think his numbers are so high because we've settled for FG's for a decade.
This is probably somewhat true. But you still have to make the FG, which Dawson has done over and over again...
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Holmgren and Dawson had meeting during practice.
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