Who Would You Take With The First Pick Next Year
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I can solve all problems, was just thinking....
Trade Cribbs and our next two years 3rd round picks to move up to take Andrew Luck, then trade nexst yrs 1st to move back tin the fisrt round to take Blackman, then in the second round we take the best Defensive Player. Then trade Rogers for our two 3rd round picks back and take the best Running Back. Then trade Colt for a late 3rd and take Clay Matthews
out of all that we would only lose next yrs first...
Looks good to me....
Then we would have
QB-Luck
RB-Hillis, Hardesty, and BRA
WR-Blackman, Robo, MoMass, And a VET
TE-Watson
I LIKE IT....
I can solve all problems, was just thinking....
Trade Cribbs and our next two years 3rd round picks to move up to take Andrew Luck, then trade nexst yrs 1st to move back tin the fisrt round to take Blackman, then in the second round we take the best Defensive Player. Then trade Rogers for our two 3rd round picks back and take the best Running Back. Then trade Colt for a late 3rd and take Clay Matthews
out of all that we would only lose next yrs first...
Looks good to me....
Then we would have
QB-Luck
RB-Hillis, Hardesty, and BRA
WR-Blackman, Robo, MoMass, And a VET
TE-Watson
I LIKE IT....
You're kidding, right? And your linebackers and DL (sorely deficient) would be WHO? Rubin, Roth, Fujita (who will be 32 next year) and the Three Stooges? That BPA in the second round? Which we won't have, BTW.
1) The way McCoy has looked we're not giving up the ranch to draft Luck. 2) Carolina has looked so crappy at qb, there is no way in hell they'll pass on Luck assuming he declares. It would take a Ditka Doofus maneuver to pry him away. You won't get two third rounders for Rodgers either, not even close. You might get a fourth for him. The Browns are still so talent depleted, we need more picks not less. Green Bay has Aaron Rodgers, they have no need for McCoy. To get Matthews from the Pack you'd probably need to give up Hillis AND picks- high ones- (actually Matthews is what you would call an "untouchable".
In the real world, not draft fantasy to pull off your scenario, the Browns are minus Hillis and Cribbs, plus Matthews, and no picks higher than the fourth round for 2011 and 2012. I don't like it- and that's a best case scenario.
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I hope you guys watched the OSU Arizona game last night. Blackmon looked awesome, had a 75 yard reception for a TD where he just burned the guy covering him.
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The way it looks right now the draft order very well may be:
1. Carolina
2 -4 Buffalo, Cinci, Denver each at 4-11
And tied at 5-10 are Arizona, San Fran, Detroit, Dallas, Houston, and the Browns.
The bad thing is that where there is a tie, the draft order is decided by strength of schedule, i.e. the team having played the weaker schedule gets the higher slot....
Which puts the Browns at the very end, because the Browns have by far played the hardest schedule in the entire NFL,
So that would put them at getting the #10 pick
If they were to win Sunday they would drop even lower. There are 4 teams with 6-9 records.
Nevertheless, I agree with those that say go for front 7 DL. Yes, there offense is one of the worst going, but they are also 26th against the rush. That has to improve.
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If the Browns trade Colt, I think they could send him to a warm weather team in need of a QB such as Miami. I mean, honestly, if a QB isn't good enough for Cleveland, how else is he supposed to be good enough for any other NFL team?
It's funny how the perception of a kid can change after one game, good or bad. I saw a poll online asking which team wishes they drafted Tebow. One of the selections was Cleveland. The article actually suggested that Cleveland draft him at #7 instead of Joe Haden. All because he performed adequately against the worst pass defense in the NFL.
You can expect the front office at Cleveland to take a more long term approach to Colt's future. Make no mistake, Colt has won over Holmgren and Mangini both; they'll want him to succeed wherever it is, even if that isn't Cleveland. You can tell they like the kid and want him to succeed.
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If the Browns trade Colt, I think they could send him to a warm weather team in need of a QB such as Miami. I mean, honestly, if a QB isn't good enough for Cleveland, how else is he supposed to be good enough for any other NFL team?
It's funny how the perception of a kid can change after one game, good or bad. I saw a poll online asking which team wishes they drafted Tebow. One of the selections was Cleveland. The article actually suggested that Cleveland draft him at #7 instead of Joe Haden. All because he performed adequately against the worst pass defense in the NFL.
You can expect the front office at Cleveland to take a more long term approach to Colt's future. Make no mistake, Colt has won over Holmgren and Mangini both; they'll want him to succeed wherever it is, even if that isn't Cleveland. You can tell they like the kid and want him to succeed.
If the Browns trade Colt, I think they could send him to a warm weather team in need of a QB such as Miami. I mean, honestly, if a QB isn't good enough for Cleveland, how else is he supposed to be good enough for any other NFL team?
It's funny how the perception of a kid can change after one game, good or bad. I saw a poll online asking which team wishes they drafted Tebow. One of the selections was Cleveland. The article actually suggested that Cleveland draft him at #7 instead of Joe Haden. All because he performed adequately against the worst pass defense in the NFL.
You can expect the front office at Cleveland to take a more long term approach to Colt's future. Make no mistake, Colt has won over Holmgren and Mangini both; they'll want him to succeed wherever it is, even if that isn't Cleveland. You can tell they like the kid and want him to succeed.
Ya and their not going to trade him. One bad game isn't enough to ship out a guy who has to this point shown nothing but good things.
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I would rather take Blackmon over Jones as Jones has the physical traits that make people wow i believe that blackmon is going to be the better pro, we'll have to wait for the combine but i see Jones running a 4.55 around that area but i would love to have Green he will not be there when we pick give me Blackmon Or Nick Fairley or Marcell Dareus those are my picks but if we take the D in round one we have to try to grab a Jonathan Baldwin or Ryan Broyles in round 2
It's called a xxxxing period, learn how to use them.
OFFENSE OFFENSE AND MORE OFFENSE
Great thread so far
We have none and McCoy needs some tools and Offense wins Championships
I like the Green and Jones thinking. I would also look for a RB because Hardesty has been injured two years in row and we have nothing behind Hillis and his running style makes me think his production will never get any better than this year.
Offense Skill players round 1 and 2 and maybe 3.
If we are staying 3-4 a LB is imperative in round 3 or 4
Hardesty hasn't been injured two years in a row. Granted he has been injured something like 4 out of the past 5 years, but last year he was healthy the whole season. I also wouldn't be surprised if we resigned Bell to a one/two year deal and then we draft a RB in the late rounds.
Hillis-iz-Boss said:
It's called a xxxxing period, learn how to use them.Hardesty hasn't been injured two years in a row. Granted he has been injured something like 4 out of the past 5 years, but last year he was healthy the whole season. I also wouldn't be surprised if we resigned Bell to a one/two year deal and then we draft a RB in the late rounds.
So you are counting on one them to be a superstar RB...........because Hillis is not a superstar RB
Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes -
I hope you guys watched the OSU Arizona game last night. Blackmon looked awesome, had a 75 yard reception for a TD where he just burned the guy covering him.
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If the Browns trade Colt, I think they could send him to a warm weather team in need of a QB such as Miami. I mean, honestly, if a QB isn't good enough for Cleveland, how else is he supposed to be good enough for any other NFL team?
It's funny how the perception of a kid can change after one game, good or bad. I saw a poll online asking which team wishes they drafted Tebow. One of the selections was Cleveland. The article actually suggested that Cleveland draft him at #7 instead of Joe Haden. All because he performed adequately against the worst pass defense in the NFL.
You can expect the front office at Cleveland to take a more long term approach to Colt's future. Make no mistake, Colt has won over Holmgren and Mangini both; they'll want him to succeed wherever it is, even if that isn't Cleveland. You can tell they like the kid and want him to succeed.
Ya and their not going to trade him. One bad game isn't enough to ship out a guy who has to this point shown nothing but good things.
Hillis-iz-Boss said:
Ya and their not going to trade him. One bad game isn't enough to ship out a guy who has to this point shown nothing but good things.I agree, I was just clarifying that if they want a different QB, they're going to be careful about how to handle Colt because they don't want his value to tank.
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Hillis-iz-Boss said:
It's called a xxxxing period, learn how to use them.Hardesty hasn't been injured two years in a row. Granted he has been injured something like 4 out of the past 5 years, but last year he was healthy the whole season. I also wouldn't be surprised if we resigned Bell to a one/two year deal and then we draft a RB in the late rounds.
So you are counting on one them to be a superstar RB...........because Hillis is not a superstar RB
So you are counting on one them to be a superstar RB...........because Hillis is not a superstar RB
He's better than your Mendenhall and a top 10 RB in the NFL and will only be better with some depth behind him. Seriously I don't see the Steelers trying to draft the next big start RB and the Browns Hillis is currently better than the Steelers number one and behind him is a guy who was expected to come straight in as the #1 back and a guy who lead 3 rushers on last years winning super bowl team.
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So you are counting on one them to be a superstar RB...........because Hillis is not a superstar RB
He's better than your Mendenhall and a top 10 RB in the NFL and will only be better with some depth behind him. Seriously I don't see the Steelers trying to draft the next big start RB and the Browns Hillis is currently better than the Steelers number one and behind him is a guy who was expected to come straight in as the #1 back and a guy who lead 3 rushers on last years winning super bowl team.
Hillis-iz-Boss said:
He's better than your Mendenhall and a top 10 RB in the NFL and will only be better with some depth behind him. Seriously I don't see the Steelers trying to draft the next big start RB and the Browns Hillis is currently better than the Steelers number one and behind him is a guy who was expected to come straight in as the #1 back and a guy who lead 3 rushers on last years winning super bowl team.First of all my first post was a joke, buit I would love the Browns to get lucky and get Luck...(Thats funny how that came out)
second- Mendenhall is better than Hillis. Sorry I love Hillis, but Mendenhall in Clevelands system would be a monster. Pitt with Big Ben likes to pass.....
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my wife came into my man room and saw be watching womans basketball and thought I came down with some crazy sickness
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Is it just me? I wasn't all THAT impressed with Blackmon. I mean, he looked great on thet long throw for TD, but the db let him go,
thinking he had the safety there on that play. It was a mistake in the secondary.
He caught a few other passes, but a first round draft pick should show more of a dominant presence on the field. Compare Blackmon's
stats with Julio Jones and Green the next bowl games - Georgia and Alabama, I think, are their teams...
I've seen Robieskie make a far better case in games at OSU than Blackmon did in his bowl game.
Could just be me, though... @@
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Is it just me? I wasn't all THAT impressed with Blackmon. I mean, he looked great on thet long throw for TD, but the db let him go,
thinking he had the safety there on that play. It was a mistake in the secondary.
He caught a few other passes, but a first round draft pick should show more of a dominant presence on the field. Compare Blackmon's
stats with Julio Jones and Green the next bowl games - Georgia and Alabama, I think, are their teams...
I've seen Robieskie make a far better case in games at OSU than Blackmon did in his bowl game.
Could just be me, though... @@
Is it just me? I wasn't all THAT impressed with Blackmon. I mean, he looked great on thet long throw for TD, but the db let him go,
thinking he had the safety there on that play. It was a mistake in the secondary.
He caught a few other passes, but a first round draft pick should show more of a dominant presence on the field. Compare Blackmon's
stats with Julio Jones and Green the next bowl games - Georgia and Alabama, I think, are their teams...
I've seen Robieskie make a far better case in games at OSU than Blackmon did in his bowl game.
Could just be me, though... @@
Even if you don't want to count that one catch he still had an impressive TD catch afterwards where he dove for the ball out of bounds and still managed to get his feet down. I'm not saying we should take him I'm just saying that he is good and I wouldn't be mad if we did.
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