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  • Hillis-iz-Boss said:

    I don't see us really picking a QB until round 5-7.

    Fine with me. Every wants to draft the big name college quarterbacks, that doesn't always work out.

    Tom Brady was drafted 199th overall

    @brownandorange said:

    Fine with me. Every wants to draft the big name college quarterbacks, that doesn't always work out.

    Tom Brady was drafted 199th overall

    To me, being drafted is more about someone getting the opportunity to become as good as they want as long as they're willing to put the work in to get there.

    Reality is alot of kids get a boat load of money and dont know what to do with it. Im sure alot of them want to go out and party 24/7 and some can retire off of what they make before they even play a down so they just quit caring.

    The tricky part is finding the ones who care and is willing to put in the work to earn that paycheck.

  • @brownandorange said:

    Shaun Rogers was inexcusably awful this year, with a whopping 16 tackles and 1.5 sacks. The only aspect of our defense that looks promising is the secondary. For a 3-5 weeks, Haden, Ward, and Elam really played shutdown defense... then it all went downhill.

    This draft is loaded with D-lineman too. Not to base everything off of ESPN's Scout Inc. but the top 10 players are a good example of the amount of talent at the D-line position in this draft. 6 of the top 10 are D-lineman and only one is under 280lbs:

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft

    2. Da'Quan Bowers

    Position: DE School: Clemson Grade:97 Height: 6'4'' Weight: 280lbs

    3. Nick Fairley

    Position: DT School: Auburn Grade: 97 Height: 6'5'' Weight: 298lbs

    6. Robert Quinn

    Position: DE School: N. Carolina Grade: 96 Height: 6'4'' Weight: 254lbs

    8. Marcell Dareus

    Position: DT School: Alabama Grade: 96 Height: 6'2'' Weight: 303lbs

    9. Adrian Clayborn

    Position: DE School: Iowa Grade: 95 Height: 6'3'' Weight: 285lbs

    10. Stephen Paea

    Position: DT School: Oregon State Grade: 95 Height: 6'1'' Weight: 304lbs

    PavingHillis said:

    6. Robert Quinn

    Position: DE School: N. Carolina Grade: 96 Height: 6'4'' Weight: 254lbs

    6'4" and 254?!?! Jesus, how fast does he run the 40?

  • PavingHillis said:

    6. Robert Quinn

    Position: DE School: N. Carolina Grade: 96 Height: 6'4'' Weight: 254lbs

    6'4" and 254?!?! Jesus, how fast does he run the 40?

    @brownandorange said:

    6'4" and 254?!?! Jesus, how fast does he run the 40?

    Although his position in college was DE, he would probably be like a Wimbley OLB/DE pass rusher project. From what I remember he was a pass rusher in college, didn't he get into some trouble and get suspended this year? I don't know why everyone keeps rating him so high? Having not played an entire season, I would expect his stock to fall a bit.

  • I'd be a little more inclined to see if we can pick up a good receiver already in the league; especially if we can't get Green; even if we have to trade a draft pick to get it. That way we can hit the ground running more quickly with veteran receivers. Then draft players that will help shore up some of the other spots we badly need. If a Jones or Blackmon drifts late into the 2nd or 3rd round and you can get them cheap then great.

    I have some faith that we'll do the right thing. This past draft was pretty good for us.

  • I'd be a little more inclined to see if we can pick up a good receiver already in the league; especially if we can't get Green; even if we have to trade a draft pick to get it. That way we can hit the ground running more quickly with veteran receivers. Then draft players that will help shore up some of the other spots we badly need. If a Jones or Blackmon drifts late into the 2nd or 3rd round and you can get them cheap then great.

    I have some faith that we'll do the right thing. This past draft was pretty good for us.

    @deviant-khan said:

    I'd be a little more inclined to see if we can pick up a good receiver already in the league

    I agree with that, but I don't want to settle for an old FA receiver like T.O. who has maybe 1 or 2 good years left.

  • Dallas and Houston are officially 6-10, below us in the draft. The difference from 8th pick to 6th pick could help us nabb A.J. Green! or a stud DL...

    I'm just trying to be optimistic 🙂

    @bringbackbrownie2 said:

    Dallas and Houston are officially 6-10, below us in the draft. The difference from 8th pick to 6th pick could help us nabb A.J. Green! or a stud DL...

    I'm just trying to be optimistic 🙂

    Just what we need to waste another pick on a DL when we have no OFFENSE.....and NO LB's

    perfect........

  • Bowers or Fairley if Green is gone and we do not trade back which i hope we do and acquire Jones or Blackmon being it that they are a reach at pick #6. We could easily grab ethier one at say 15 area

  • @bringbackbrownie2 said:

    Dallas and Houston are officially 6-10, below us in the draft. The difference from 8th pick to 6th pick could help us nabb A.J. Green! or a stud DL...

    I'm just trying to be optimistic 🙂

    Just what we need to waste another pick on a DL when we have no OFFENSE.....and NO LB's

    perfect........

    @rich4eagle said:

    Just what we need to waste another pick on a DL when we have no OFFENSE.....and NO LB's

    perfect........

    Did you read my post at all? I said A.J. Green! He is a WR = offense. If he and Jones are gone (unlikely) but if they are go for a pass rusher... Defense wins championships 😆

  • trade up.This years 1st next years 1st next years 3rd Cribbs,Wallace,and Rogers to Carolina for 1 overall next year 5th and pick Andrew Luck

  • PavingHillis said:

    Out of curiosity, how do 1st round WR's usually fair in their first NFL season? I don't mean to be a downer, but I have a feeling we will lose A.J. Green to Cinci at #3, but if we were to get him, would he be able to make a impact from the get go?

    since 1990

    76 WR have been picked in the first round

    22 have made at least 1 pro bowl

    14 have made 2 or more pro bowl

    @richiswhere said:

    since 1990

    76 WR have been picked in the first round

    22 have made at least 1 pro bowl

    14 have made 2 or more pro bowl

    Are the 14 included in the 22??

  • trade up.This years 1st next years 1st next years 3rd Cribbs,Wallace,and Rogers to Carolina for 1 overall next year 5th and pick Andrew Luck

    @7moses7 said:

    trade Cribbs,Wallace,and Rogers to Carolina for 1 overall

    You're stoned. Carolina's starting QB is JIMMY CLAUSEN. Carolina needs a QB more than any team in this draft, they're not going to trade down.

  • @richiswhere said:

    since 1990

    76 WR have been picked in the first round

    22 have made at least 1 pro bowl

    14 have made 2 or more pro bowl

    Are the 14 included in the 22??

    @ballpeen said:

    Are the 14 included in the 22??

    Yes the 14 are included but I am wrong on those numbers my source (wikipedia) was wrong on a few guys.

    How it should look

    Since 1990

    76 WR have been picked in the first round

    21 of them have made the pro bowl at least 1 time

    10 of those 21 have made the pro bowl 2 or more times

    Desmond Howard, Percy Harvin and Koren Robinson each made the pro bowl once (they were included in the numbers above) but made the pro bowl not as WR but as kick returners.

    Wikipedia had Roy Williams(1), Terry Glenn(1) and Joey Galloway(0) as being in multiple pro bowls (actual pro bowls)

    I had Santana Moss in 2 pro bowls but he was only in 1 he was on 2 all pro teams

  • My question is if there is no season next year do we get another 6th overall pick for the 2012 draft? If so that would be nice for Carolina.

  • My question is if there is no season next year do we get another 6th overall pick for the 2012 draft? If so that would be nice for Carolina.

    @buckeyedawg said:

    My question is if there is no season next year do we get another 6th overall pick for the 2012 draft? If so that would be nice for Carolina.

    If there is no season next year then the team with the 32nd pick should get the 1st overall, like a snake draft. That would be the only rational way to do it.

  • @buckeyedawg said:

    My question is if there is no season next year do we get another 6th overall pick for the 2012 draft? If so that would be nice for Carolina.

    If there is no season next year then the team with the 32nd pick should get the 1st overall, like a snake draft. That would be the only rational way to do it.

    @brownandorange said:

    If there is no season next year then the team with the 32nd pick should get the 1st overall, like a snake draft. That would be the only rational way to do it.

    That might be the most logical way to do it but I would rather us getting another high pick. (either way I would rather have the season be played)

  • @brownandorange said:

    If there is no season next year then the team with the 32nd pick should get the 1st overall, like a snake draft. That would be the only rational way to do it.

    That might be the most logical way to do it but I would rather us getting another high pick. (either way I would rather have the season be played)

    @buckeyedawg said:

    That might be the most logical way to do it but I would rather us getting another high pick. (either way I would rather have the season be played)

    Me too. I couldn't stand not having the NFL for a year. And yes, we would like to have two 6th overall picks, but what about the Patriots, Falcons, and Saints? They would bitch about getting screwed in the draft and Goodell would have no option but to resort to the snake draft.

  • @buckeyedawg said:

    That might be the most logical way to do it but I would rather us getting another high pick. (either way I would rather have the season be played)

    Me too. I couldn't stand not having the NFL for a year. And yes, we would like to have two 6th overall picks, but what about the Patriots, Falcons, and Saints? They would bitch about getting screwed in the draft and Goodell would have no option but to resort to the snake draft.

    @brownandorange said:

    Me too. I couldn't stand not having the NFL for a year. And yes, we would like to have two 6th overall picks, but what about the Patriots, Falcons, and Saints? They would bitch about getting screwed in the draft and Goodell would have no option but to resort to the snake draft.

    I don't know... I think a lot of people would have a problem giving the defending super bowl champions the first overall pick. Im sure it is in the rule book someplace.

  • @brownandorange said:

    Me too. I couldn't stand not having the NFL for a year. And yes, we would like to have two 6th overall picks, but what about the Patriots, Falcons, and Saints? They would bitch about getting screwed in the draft and Goodell would have no option but to resort to the snake draft.

    I don't know... I think a lot of people would have a problem giving the defending super bowl champions the first overall pick. Im sure it is in the rule book someplace.

    @buckeyedawg said:

    I don't know... I think a lot of people would have a problem giving the defending super bowl champions the first overall pick. Im sure it is in the rule book someplace.

    Well, there would have to be 2 drafts. In the 2011 draft you use the original draft order and in the 2012 you completely flip the order and revert to the snake draft.

    OR, on a completely different note, they could resort to the lottery, similar to the NBA and just determine the draft order that way. Since there was no past season though, each team would get 1 ball so every franchise has the same opportunity.

  • @buckeyedawg said:

    I don't know... I think a lot of people would have a problem giving the defending super bowl champions the first overall pick. Im sure it is in the rule book someplace.

    Well, there would have to be 2 drafts. In the 2011 draft you use the original draft order and in the 2012 you completely flip the order and revert to the snake draft.

    OR, on a completely different note, they could resort to the lottery, similar to the NBA and just determine the draft order that way. Since there was no past season though, each team would get 1 ball so every franchise has the same opportunity.

    @brownandorange said:

    Well, there would have to be 2 drafts. In the 2011 draft you use the original draft order and in the 2012 you completely flip the order and revert to the snake draft.

    OR, on a completely different note, they could resort to the lottery, similar to the NBA and just determine the draft order that way. Since there was no past season though, each team would get 1 ball so every franchise has the same opportunity.

    I just don't think it is i likely they would give the highest picks to the best teams like that. They may do something like average draft position over the last 5 or so years. Who knows.

  • @brownandorange said:

    Well, there would have to be 2 drafts. In the 2011 draft you use the original draft order and in the 2012 you completely flip the order and revert to the snake draft.

    OR, on a completely different note, they could resort to the lottery, similar to the NBA and just determine the draft order that way. Since there was no past season though, each team would get 1 ball so every franchise has the same opportunity.

    I just don't think it is i likely they would give the highest picks to the best teams like that. They may do something like average draft position over the last 5 or so years. Who knows.

    @buckeyedawg said:

    I just don't think it is i likely they would give the highest picks to the best teams like that. They may do something like average draft position over the last 5 or so years. Who knows.

    Or another idea would be to do a snake draft per say but keep the original start so Carolina goes 1 and 65. That might be more fair. I did a quick google search and didnt really come up with anything.