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  • ClevelandFanForLifeC ClevelandFanForLife

    good for luck. it is well known that all men named andrew are geniuses and this just proves it.

    this will completely change the draft. i could see carolina drafting whatever player is the best overall now. maybe aj green just to see if clausen can do anything with some weapons.

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    @clevelandfanforlife said:

    good for luck. it is well known that all men named andrew are geniuses and this just proves it.

    My ex's brother is named Andrew and he was just busted for blowing his inheritance on a $1000 a day Heroin habbit. Turns out he sold to a few cops and they took his house, car, bikes, and everything else he owned. Glad I havn't seen him in 6 years.

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      Maybe he's one of those rare breeds that thinks about tradition, honor, school spirit, etc.....or maybe he knows there will be a protracted NFL labor dispute and he won't get paid anything next year anyway. I would think Harbugh has the inside scoop about what's likely to happen in the NFL and advised him on what to do. Perhaps the plan is for him to go where Harbaugh goes, but in 2012?

      The one and only time losing is acceptable is when it involves your virginity.
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        @clevelandfanforlife said:

        good for luck. it is well known that all men named andrew are geniuses and this just proves it.

        this will completely change the draft. i could see carolina drafting whatever player is the best overall now. maybe aj green just to see if clausen can do anything with some weapons.

        Dumbest decision in the history of dumb decisions.

        If he drops 10 spots for the 2012 draft, or worse, it will cost

        him 10s of millions - he could finish his education whenever,

        but with a guaranteed $55-65 mill in the bank. That is a horrendous

        decision. I can't believe he would be that stupid. You never walk

        away from a guaranteed $60 mill. because whatever happens after

        that will be moot. Ask Locker if he should have stayed this year. Compare

        a guaranteed $15 mill to $60 mill. and get back to me.

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        @silverbackattack said:

        Dumbest decision in the history of dumb decisions.

        If he drops 10 spots for the 2012 draft, or worse, it will cost

        him 10s of millions - he could finish his education whenever,

        but with a guaranteed $55-65 mill in the bank. That is a horrendous

        decision. I can't believe he would be that stupid. You never walk

        away from a guaranteed $60 mill. because whatever happens after

        that will be moot. Ask Locker if he should have stayed this year. Compare

        a guaranteed $15 mill to $60 mill. and get back to me.

        No way dude, better he stays in school and lays as much hot ass as he can, then be the next ben roethlisburger.

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        • S Squintz

          I'm in the quick minority here.

          This kid can return to Stanford ANY time he wants for the rest of his life and finish the year on his degree to go design structures.

          But what he CAN'T do is guarantee he will be the first pick in the draft in 2012.

          It's not something he should risk IMO. I know it still worked out for guys like Bradford, but why place yourself at risk? There is one thing he can't do, and that is IMPROVE his draft position.

          I commend him on honoring a contract and all, but if it were me or my son, I'd suggest otherwise.

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          ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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          @squintz said:

          I'm in the quick minority here.

          This kid can return to Stanford ANY time he wants for the rest of his life and finish the year on his degree to go design structures.

          But what he CAN'T do is guarantee he will be the first pick in the draft in 2012.

          It's not something he should risk IMO. I know it still worked out for guys like Bradford, but why place yourself at risk? There is one thing he can't do, and that is IMPROVE his draft position.

          I commend him on honoring a contract and all, but if it were me or my son, I'd suggest otherwise.

          True. His folks have the bucks, or found them.

          I'll bet he has a insurance policy protecting his NFL draftability against injury.

          Good for him.

          If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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            @clevelandfanforlife said:

            good for luck. it is well known that all men named andrew are geniuses and this just proves it.

            this will completely change the draft. i could see carolina drafting whatever player is the best overall now. maybe aj green just to see if clausen can do anything with some weapons.

            Dumbest decision in the history of dumb decisions.

            If he drops 10 spots for the 2012 draft, or worse, it will cost

            him 10s of millions - he could finish his education whenever,

            but with a guaranteed $55-65 mill in the bank. That is a horrendous

            decision. I can't believe he would be that stupid. You never walk

            away from a guaranteed $60 mill. because whatever happens after

            that will be moot. Ask Locker if he should have stayed this year. Compare

            a guaranteed $15 mill to $60 mill. and get back to me.

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            ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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            @silverbackattack said:

            Dumbest decision in the history of dumb decisions.

            If he drops 10 spots for the 2012 draft, or worse, it will cost

            him 10s of millions - he could finish his education whenever,

            but with a guaranteed $55-65 mill in the bank. That is a horrendous

            decision. I can't believe he would be that stupid. You never walk

            away from a guaranteed $60 mill. because whatever happens after

            that will be moot. Ask Locker if he should have stayed this year. Compare

            a guaranteed $15 mill to $60 mill. and get back to me.

            it isn't always about the money dude.

            For some people it is about accomplishment, pride, and team spirit.

            Luck has plenty of money in his future even if he never plays a down of NFL football.

            If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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              @silverbackattack said:

              Dumbest decision in the history of dumb decisions.

              If he drops 10 spots for the 2012 draft, or worse, it will cost

              him 10s of millions - he could finish his education whenever,

              but with a guaranteed $55-65 mill in the bank. That is a horrendous

              decision. I can't believe he would be that stupid. You never walk

              away from a guaranteed $60 mill. because whatever happens after

              that will be moot. Ask Locker if he should have stayed this year. Compare

              a guaranteed $15 mill to $60 mill. and get back to me.

              it isn't always about the money dude.

              For some people it is about accomplishment, pride, and team spirit.

              Luck has plenty of money in his future even if he never plays a down of NFL football.

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              S silverbackattack wrote on last edited by
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              @ballpeen said:

              it isn't always about the money dude.

              For some people it is about accomplishment, pride, and team spirit.

              Luck has plenty of money in his future even if he never plays a down of NFL football.

              He can still accomplish as much, with pride, etc. with $60 mill. guaranteed over

              risking it. He could be one hit away from not even making the NFL. You don't

              blow off $60 mill when it is right there for the taking and may never be there

              again. You just don't do that.

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                @ballpeen said:

                it isn't always about the money dude.

                For some people it is about accomplishment, pride, and team spirit.

                Luck has plenty of money in his future even if he never plays a down of NFL football.

                He can still accomplish as much, with pride, etc. with $60 mill. guaranteed over

                risking it. He could be one hit away from not even making the NFL. You don't

                blow off $60 mill when it is right there for the taking and may never be there

                again. You just don't do that.

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                ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by ballpeen
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                @silverbackattack said:

                He can still accomplish as much, with pride, etc. with $60 mill. guaranteed over

                risking it. He could be one hit away from not even making the NFL. You don't

                blow off $60 mill when it is right there for the taking and may never be there

                again. You just don't do that.

                He just did, so you don't have to take it from a guy who didn't have 60 mil on the line with my last reply.

                Some people know they are going to make it OK without winning the lottery.

                There are plenty of Stanford boosters who make big bucks who have made it clear to him they appreciate his efforts at Stanford and will see to it he isn't living on skid row if he gets hurt.

                If the guy gets his leg ripped off next season and he can never walk again, he is still going to make 20 mil over the course of the next 40 years.

                it may not be the money you mention, but it will be money enough.

                Then you add that in to it being a job v being the BMOC with a lot of girls in the experimentation phase of life...and that goes for a guy like me (you, i am not sure), not to mention his potential earning ability, it adds up to a fun senior year.

                My attitude is if you don't need to go to work because you need the money, put it off as long as possible.

                My attitude is when you are young, have fun, have as much sex as possible, and worry about tomorrow the day after tomorrow.

                If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                  WRREBELW WRREBEL wrote on last edited by
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                  He is only a sophmore.

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                    @585dawg said:

                    100% Agree! He is taking a HUGE risk.. how could you pass up guaranteed mulit-millions of dollars to finish out one year?! Especially when he can go back to stanford ANYTIME. I can guarantee any one of us would take the money.. how could you not?! After all, isn't that what we are after?? He has a talent that can make him MILLIONS.. AHH what is he thinking!!??

                    Anyways.. whatever.. eff him

                    QB at Carolina: 65 mil/ 10 years....then who knows

                    Architectural design degree out of Stanford + 65mil/10 years from NFL team = running architectural design firm at age 30 through 65 = 175-300 mil over lifetime.

                    300,000,000 > 65,000,000 is what he's thinking. Smart guy.

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                    @pikeym27 said:

                    QB at Carolina: 65 mil/ 10 years....then who knows

                    Architectural design degree out of Stanford + 65mil/10 years from NFL team = running architectural design firm at age 30 through 65 = 175-300 mil over lifetime.

                    300,000,000 > 65,000,000 is what he's thinking. Smart guy.

                    Unless the nfl as part of it's labor agreement institutes rookie salary limits

                    Then what does his decision look like?

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                      He is only a sophmore.

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                      ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                      @wrrebel said:

                      He is only a sophmore.

                      Even more the reason, though academically he is probably further along than a sophomore.

                      If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                      • ballpeenB ballpeen

                        @wrrebel said:

                        He is only a sophmore.

                        Even more the reason, though academically he is probably further along than a sophomore.

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                        WRREBELW WRREBEL wrote on last edited by
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                        @ballpeen said:

                        Even more the reason, though academically he is probably further along than a sophomore.

                        Yeah he is, but why leave? Im with you..

                        They can take away the fancy cars, they can take away the money but they can never take away your education!

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                          Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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                          Life is about priorities & making decisions that are best for YOU.

                          It's truly amazing & refreshing that he wouldn't be swayed by money, fame, & public opinion. With character THAT strong, Andrew Luck will be successful in whatever he does.

                          Good for him!

                          Mike

                          IN DORSEY I TRUST
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                            When he enters the league he needs to shorten his name to "Drew" Luck. Helluva name for a football player

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                            • TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound

                              @steel88 said:

                              Doesn't really effect the browns though, we have our QB.

                              It effects the draft board, which in turn effects the Browns.

                              Maybe u need to go to Stanford 😉

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                              S steel88 wrote on last edited by
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                              @theclevelandsound said:

                              It effects the draft board, which in turn effects the Browns.

                              Maybe u need to go to Stanford 😉

                              they have other boards set just in case something like this happens still no big deal...unless of course were the Carolina panthers.

                              What we're seeing here in 2010 is precisely what happened in NE a decade ago. It worked for them then, and it wiill work for us now. Why? Because it's the only way it's ever worked in pro football. Just ask Paul Brown. Or Vince Lombardi. Or Tom Landry. .02, Clemdawg
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                                @playoffsin09 said:

                                Peyton Manning was projected #1 in 1997 to complete his degree. He then went #1 in 1998. Just hope Luck doesn't get injured. Seems like a guy with class.

                                And boy is he using that degree to it's fullest! 😆

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                                QUOTE (PlayoffsIN09 @ Jan 6 2011, 03:19 PM) *

                                Peyton Manning was projected #1 in 1997 to complete his degree. He then went #1 in 1998. Just hope Luck doesn't get injured. Seems like a guy with class.

                                @squintz said:

                                And boy is he using that degree to it's fullest! 😆

                                Manning using that degree? Sure is- it's in Speech Communication- helps him make all those effective SONY commercials. 🙂

                                BTW, Sporting News had Peyton listed in their top 20 smartest athletes. Ryan Fitzpatrick of the Bills beats him out in that category though- honors grad at Harvard. Fitz missed a perfect score on the SAT by probably one question- had a 1580, and aced the Wunderlich.

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                                  @squintz said:

                                  I'm in the quick minority here.

                                  This kid can return to Stanford ANY time he wants for the rest of his life and finish the year on his degree to go design structures.

                                  But what he CAN'T do is guarantee he will be the first pick in the draft in 2012.

                                  It's not something he should risk IMO. I know it still worked out for guys like Bradford, but why place yourself at risk? There is one thing he can't do, and that is IMPROVE his draft position.

                                  I commend him on honoring a contract and all, but if it were me or my son, I'd suggest otherwise.

                                  True. His folks have the bucks, or found them.

                                  I'll bet he has a insurance policy protecting his NFL draftability against injury.

                                  Good for him.

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                                  hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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                                  @ballpeen said:

                                  True. His folks have the bucks, or found them.

                                  I'll bet he has a insurance policy protecting his NFL draftability against injury.

                                  Good for him.

                                  Yeah, I have no doubt his dad has a few million stashed away.

                                  For those that don't already know- Andrew's father is Oliver Luck, who played a few years in the NFL. And I'd forgotten Oliver was born and grew up in CLEVELAND. Went to St Ignatius. Has a Law degree so he's certainly no dummy, and is currently Athletic Director at West Virginia which isn't too shabby an income.

                                  Oliver Luck Bio

                                  So good for Andrew, I'm sure he's had several long conversations with dad about life in the NFL, and it was a well thought out decision. But it DOES drastically alter the top of the draft, as Luck was the only #1 pick qb this year.

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                                    @wrrebel said:

                                    He is only a sophmore.

                                    Even more the reason, though academically he is probably further along than a sophomore.

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                                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                    @ballpeen said:

                                    Even more the reason, though academically he is probably further along than a sophomore.

                                    He says he would be in line to graduate in June 2012.

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                                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                      No one has answered the question posed in the original post in this thread. With Luck out of the picture, what does that do to the Draft Board.

                                      Here is a possible Top Ten List:

                                      Green of Ga.

                                      Fairly of Auburn

                                      Gabbert of Mizz.

                                      DaQuan Bowers of Clemson

                                      Peterson of LSU

                                      Justin Blackmon of OK St.

                                      Mallet of Ark.

                                      Dareus of Alabama

                                      Amakamura of Nebraska

                                      Cam Newton of Auburn

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                                      • The GipperT The Gipper

                                        No one has answered the question posed in the original post in this thread. With Luck out of the picture, what does that do to the Draft Board.

                                        Here is a possible Top Ten List:

                                        Green of Ga.

                                        Fairly of Auburn

                                        Gabbert of Mizz.

                                        DaQuan Bowers of Clemson

                                        Peterson of LSU

                                        Justin Blackmon of OK St.

                                        Mallet of Ark.

                                        Dareus of Alabama

                                        Amakamura of Nebraska

                                        Cam Newton of Auburn

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                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        No one has answered the question posed in the original post in this thread. With Luck out of the picture, what does that do to the Draft Board.

                                        Here is a possible Top Ten List:

                                        Green of Ga.

                                        Fairly of Auburn

                                        Gabbert of Mizz.

                                        DaQuan Bowers of Clemson

                                        Peterson of LSU

                                        Justin Blackmon of OK St.

                                        Mallet of Ark.

                                        Dareus of Alabama

                                        Amakamura of Nebraska

                                        Cam Newton of Auburn

                                        I'll be shocked if Mallet goes top 10.

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                                          @the-gipper said:

                                          No one has answered the question posed in the original post in this thread. With Luck out of the picture, what does that do to the Draft Board.

                                          Here is a possible Top Ten List:

                                          Green of Ga.

                                          Fairly of Auburn

                                          Gabbert of Mizz.

                                          DaQuan Bowers of Clemson

                                          Peterson of LSU

                                          Justin Blackmon of OK St.

                                          Mallet of Ark.

                                          Dareus of Alabama

                                          Amakamura of Nebraska

                                          Cam Newton of Auburn

                                          I'll be shocked if Mallet goes top 10.

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                                          @hoorta said:

                                          I'll be shocked if Mallet goes top 10.

                                          me too. I don't think Cam Newton will be top 10 either.. If A.J. green isn't available I would still take a good pass rusher instead of reaching for a WR... We still have many needs and I just wanna make sure we fill some of them..

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