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MORNHINWEG AND KOLB TO CLEVELAND?

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  • it's weird, but i think i've seen more of mccoy this year than i have of kolb since coming into the league. he's had a rough go of it so far and the window of opportunity for him is starting to close. never getting the chance and then when you do an injury takes you out and the other guy shows you up.
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  • miktoxicM miktoxic
    it's weird, but i think i've seen more of mccoy this year than i have of kolb since coming into the league. he's had a rough go of it so far and the window of opportunity for him is starting to close. never getting the chance and then when you do an injury takes you out and the other guy shows you up.

    @miktoxic said:

    it's weird, but i think i've seen more of mccoy this year than i have of kolb since coming into the league. he's had a rough go of it so far and the window of opportunity for him is starting to close. never getting the chance and then when you do an injury takes you out and the other guy shows you up.

    Just the way sports works sometimes.

    Some really talented players(in any sport, or life for that matter) never make it because of a poor team, stuck behind a really good player, etc. Had they gone to another team in the beginning the book might have been totally different.

    Other guys with maybe less talent walk in to a great situation and end up having fairly productive careers.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
  • miktoxicM miktoxic
    it's weird, but i think i've seen more of mccoy this year than i have of kolb since coming into the league. he's had a rough go of it so far and the window of opportunity for him is starting to close. never getting the chance and then when you do an injury takes you out and the other guy shows you up.

    @miktoxic said:

    it's weird, but i think i've seen more of mccoy this year than i have of kolb since coming into the league. he's had a rough go of it so far and the window of opportunity for him is starting to close. never getting the chance and then when you do an injury takes you out and the other guy shows you up.

    Considering the eagles are wanting two first rd picks. This would be the best way to kill our franchise for the next 10 years.

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    @miktoxic said:

    it's weird, but i think i've seen more of mccoy this year than i have of kolb since coming into the league. he's had a rough go of it so far and the window of opportunity for him is starting to close. never getting the chance and then when you do an injury takes you out and the other guy shows you up.

    Considering the eagles are wanting two first rd picks. This would be the best way to kill our franchise for the next 10 years.

    @wrrebel said:

    Considering the eagles are wanting two first rd picks. This would be the best way to kill our franchise for the next 10 years.

    They can go _ _ _ _ off, they aren't ever going to get anything CLOSE to that.

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    @miktoxic said:

    it's weird, but i think i've seen more of mccoy this year than i have of kolb since coming into the league. he's had a rough go of it so far and the window of opportunity for him is starting to close. never getting the chance and then when you do an injury takes you out and the other guy shows you up.

    Considering the eagles are wanting two first rd picks. This would be the best way to kill our franchise for the next 10 years.

    @wrrebel said:

    Considering the eagles are wanting two first rd picks. This would be the best way to kill our franchise for the next 10 years.

    i agree. but who knows what the new (probable) cleveland/philly brain trust will do.

  • SojuS Soju

    @wrrebel said:

    Considering the eagles are wanting two first rd picks. This would be the best way to kill our franchise for the next 10 years.

    They can go _ _ _ _ off, they aren't ever going to get anything CLOSE to that.

    @soju said:

    They can go _ _ _ _ off, they aren't ever going to get anything CLOSE to that.

    I agree....and this is assuming Mornigweg is the guy.

    The very most i could see us possibly be willing to do is get Kolb and the Eagles 1st round pick...#26 or whatever it is for our 1st round pick.

    Even then I might feel a bit violated.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.

  • Toxic is right. I've been hearing for a few years now how Kolb was the Phili man of the future just hasn't happened yet for many reasons. What he made it through 1 half before getting hurt and never made it back as a full time starter.

    Considering Colt wasn't supposed to play this past year he did a great job. I think rookies need time to sit and watch before they get there start. Look at Aaron Rogers he sat 3+ years behind Brett before his time game while at the same time Alex Smith became the starter right away after both being drafted in the same year. We've seen how that has turned out.

    All that being said, I am defiantly for Colt being the stater in 2011 but at the same time I think Delhomme should still be on the team. NOT necessarily on the field but on the team! His mentoring skill are well known and needed.

    If Marty 2.0 becomes the new Browns coach so be it. Maybe a second chance is what will make him a success. Remember Bilichick did'nt become BILICHiCK until his 2nd (technically 3rd) time as a HC.

    I think the Browns have no need for Kolb.

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  • man we need too much on this team to start trading away draft picks. holmgren and heckert drafted mccoy under their watch. can't we live with that?

    as i said in another thread, what are we gonna draft the same position every year like detroit did with WRs under millen?

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  • Kolb is Kelly Holcomb.

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  • W Westside Steve

    Kolb is Kelly Holcomb.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Kolb is Kelly Holcomb.

    WSS

    yikes!!!

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  • Grabbing marty the mortician and or kevin kolb would be a huge mistake in every sense of the word imho..

    But its the FOs call and fully on their shoulders this time round..

    We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!

  • Yeah i compeltely agree no to Marty Morningwig and no to Kolb as well, whats the situation in Philly anyone ways apperantly they are having trouble locking Vick up into a long contract so why would the deal Kolb before they did that, but yeah i dont want ethier one Colts my guy over Kolb and i wouldnt want Morningwig to coach this team but if we fail with this next time i say look out Holmgrem his job is on the line with this one

  • Good grief.. Marty Morningweig..thats the new savior..Marty Morningweig

    You bring in Kolb you might as well trade Colt, Vick cannot get to a Super Bowl

    Kolb stays..Vick goes

    No Chucky..No Cowher...These guys want stability.. not this revolving circus we deal with every 2 years

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @westside-steve said:

    Kolb is Kelly Holcomb.

    WSS

    yikes!!!

    @miktoxic said:

    yikes!!!

    😉 As in the guy everybody thinks will be a top shelf QB once he's named the starter.

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  • SojuS Soju

    Can we just give McCoy one freakin year to see how he does without these idiot commentators throwing their two cents around? McCoy was BORN for the WCO, and that is what we're going to run. Kolb could back up though. The last thing we need right now is another QB controversy.

    @soju said:

    Can we just give McCoy one freakin year to see how he does without these idiot commentators throwing their two cents around? McCoy was BORN for the WCO, and that is what we're going to run. Kolb could back up though. The last thing we need right now is another QB controversy.

    Kolb has accomplished a lot more in this league than McCoy and wouldn't back him up in a million years made up of only Sundays. Toss that psychotic notion out.

    That said, it doesn't make much sense. There's every possibility that McCoy will be as good or better than Kolb. Kolb does have more arm and is bigger... but they're very similar QBs in many ways. It would almost be a coin flip on which you start.

    Those are two guys who could be very, very good in a WCO. Kolb could end up in SF with Harbaugh.

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  • W Westside Steve

    @miktoxic said:

    yikes!!!

    😉 As in the guy everybody thinks will be a top shelf QB once he's named the starter.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    😉 As in the guy everybody thinks will be a top shelf QB once he's named the starter.

    WSS

    exactly.

    i used to think of this 'game' as the one-on-one player matchups, our guy is better than yours etc. and you'll win everytime. not so.

    i think that moreover it's all about the ones who pay these guys. and they could be the best in the business but it's like poker, a couple of bad decisions and you're out the swingin doors. these decisions about players (draft or FA, play or sit) mean everything to the teams and their fans.

    if you get the right cards and play them the right way, you're a genius. anything else and you're a loser.

  • I think Kolb is really good. He had one bumpy game when Vick got hurt, then rebounded with a great one. He's had several excellent games these past two years. I agree with him: He's a starter in this league... in the WCO he knows really well... somewhere. Might be SF. He could end up in Arizona and they might go to a WCO.

    Nobody here or in Philadelphia thinks he's worth two first round picks, though. His price was down to a 2nd round pick at one point last year, at least hypothetically, but the Eagles really didn't want to deal him. They're still just a bit iffy on Vick and STILL aren't real psyched about losing Kolb (just read that). Plenty of people in the Eagles offices think Kolb might be starting and winning games long after Vick fever wears off.

    I find it tough to believe that Holmgren would give up on McCoy so fast, though. He had two very bumpy winter games, and when Holmgren says "IF McCoy is the guy," I believe him because he seems to say whatever he feels (including about Clausen). He likes some things about McCoy, probably worries about some others (like his arm and durability).

    If Shurmur comes in, I'm betting he likes McCoy plenty. If Mornhinweg comes in, who would be even a little surprised if he doesn't pitch Kolb pretty hard?

  • Bottom line is we aren't going to go after Kolb.

    I agree, we aren't looking to lose any picks. We might sign some QB....but they will be FA or the drafted variety.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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  • @junkyard-dawg said:

    Don't bet on that, Kolb was the apple of Heckerts eye for years now, I doubt it has suddenly subsided.

    Yeah thats the only thing that scares me is that maybe Heckert sees something in him and wants to bring him here, but i really do not hope so i mean Colt deserves a full season to prove what hes capable of doing i mean Kolb has just as many starts as Colt does and dosent seem to jump out on him like hes the next great thing, Matt Flynn is supposed to get some attention as well due to his play agasnt the Pats this year i believe

  • please no Morhinweg....Weve suffered enough!

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