2011 Mock Drafts
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Nice mock, Rugy. GREAT insights, too. Love to have you post here more. Green is available in a few mocks, including Chad Reuter or whatever his name is at CBS. There are definitely some scenarios that drop him to us and then we use exactly as much clock as it takes to run to the podium.
I think we'd take Green or Julio Jones before we'd go to the next name on our board. I'd also go pass rusher (OLB in a 3-4) in round 2 before drafting a DE, not really a premium position in our two-gap 3-4. We could get some nice youth in round 3, I bet.
Pass receiver, then pass rusher. Other way around if we could get Breaston and then Baldwin. That'd be pretty sweet.
Nice mock, Rugy. GREAT insights, too. Love to have you post here more. Green is available in a few mocks, including Chad Reuter or whatever his name is at CBS. There are definitely some scenarios that drop him to us and then we use exactly as much clock as it takes to run to the podium.
I think we'd take Green or Julio Jones before we'd go to the next name on our board. I'd also go pass rusher (OLB in a 3-4) in round 2 before drafting a DE, not really a premium position in our two-gap 3-4. We could get some nice youth in round 3, I bet.
Pass receiver, then pass rusher. Other way around if we could get Breaston and then Baldwin. That'd be pretty sweet.
Thanks for the compliment! I agree about taking Green ASAP if he's there, but if he is taken earlier I'd probably address another position. If Robert Quinn is still legit he'd look REAL good in Brown and Orange. Ditto for Nick Fairley. Chances are that if Green is taken one of those two will be available to us.
In the second round I do like Houston. There are a couple other names I like a little more though. If Jonathan Baldwin is still available he's as much a no brainer as Green is, even if we do go with a WR at 6. Imagine having Green on one side and Baldwin on the other. Bring 8 in the box!! Go ahead!! I dare you!!
Another name I really like in round 2 is Jared Crick. Played with Suh and held his own. In the year that Suh was in the NFL, Crick proved he was no fluke, posting even better numbers.
In round 3, I've got a gut pick I really like right here: Casey Matthews- ILB, Oregon. Just a good feeling around this guy. Hey, he has football in his blood!
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I like your mock draft but i think your being abit of a homer if you truly believe that AJ Green will be there when we pick i just dont see it happening but id love if it did
Thanks for the compliment! As for Green to the Browns, I would have agreed with you before we got our hands on the number 6 pick. But now there are only 5 teams in front of us- and each has very good reasons not to take Green.
Carolina- If my memory and lousy googling skills serve me correctly, there hasn't been a receiver taken #1 overall since 1964. There have been prospects at the position better than Green in the last half century and this draft is not so devoid of talent that they must resort to taking a wideout at the top.
Denver- If they take Green I will place money on them tearing down Mile High stadium. Their defense was historically bad and the only thing they COULD do last year was pass. No way Green lands here.
Buffalo- With the worst run defense in the NFL, are they really going to take an offensive skill position player in the top 10 again? It didn't work out so well for them last time.
Arizona- What, they need a receiver downfield to stand with Fitzgerald while neither catches the ball?
That leaves the Bengals. I could easily see them taking Green; however, I don't think it's likely. Like I said in the original post, Mike Brown doesn't take receivers in the first round. Instead the Bengals just added receivers in the second and third round (Andre Caldwell, Jerome Simpson and Jordan Shipley- all of whom looked pretty good in Cincy's last game). Additionally they just picked up Ochocinco's $6 million contract... I think. Read this: http://www.realgmfootball.com/src_wiretap_...#036;6m_option/ . I know that the article speculates that Chad could be cut or traded, but is penny pinching Mike Brown really going to let $6 million walk and cut the guy? No. And who exactly is going to give Cincy value for the aging receiver? No one.
So like I said, I COULD see the Bengals going after them, but is that likely when they're poised to go into the season with Ochocinco, Andre Caldwell, Jerome Simpson and Jordan Shipley? I don't think so. Especially not given Cincy's trouble rushing the passer and the Bengals bringing back a defensive minded coach.
So if the Bengals don't take him... and I don't think they will... and neither do the other 4... that leaves Green all to us. If he is there, then he's gotta be the pick.
Thanks for the compliment! As for Green to the Browns, I would have agreed with you before we got our hands on the number 6 pick. But now there are only 5 teams in front of us- and each has very good reasons not to take Green.
Carolina- If my memory and lousy googling skills serve me correctly, there hasn't been a receiver taken #1 overall since 1964. There have been prospects at the position better than Green in the last half century and this draft is not so devoid of talent that they must resort to taking a wideout at the top.
Keyshawn Johnson was taken 1st overall by the Jets in 1996. Although it is very rare to see a WR taken that high.
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I can only see us passing on Green and Jones if we really went large in free agency at WR, like Vincent Jackson. MAYBE if we got Breaston. I don't want any part of James Jones... that drop before the half was just dreadful.
If we got Breaston and made sure we got Baldwin (probably in a trade-up), I could buy that. But we need two serious guys this offseason. I think the only three guys from this year on next year's active roster are Massoquoi, Cribbs, and Robiskie... and none of them is better than a #3 on most teams.
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Thanks for the compliment! As for Green to the Browns, I would have agreed with you before we got our hands on the number 6 pick. But now there are only 5 teams in front of us- and each has very good reasons not to take Green.
Carolina- If my memory and lousy googling skills serve me correctly, there hasn't been a receiver taken #1 overall since 1964. There have been prospects at the position better than Green in the last half century and this draft is not so devoid of talent that they must resort to taking a wideout at the top.
Keyshawn Johnson was taken 1st overall by the Jets in 1996. Although it is very rare to see a WR taken that high.
Keyshawn Johnson was taken 1st overall by the Jets in 1996. Although it is very rare to see a WR taken that high.
Stupid google... thanks! I still don't think he goes #1 overall though.
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Keyshawn Johnson was taken 1st overall by the Jets in 1996. Although it is very rare to see a WR taken that high.
Stupid google... thanks! I still don't think he goes #1 overall though.
Stupid google... thanks! I still don't think he goes #1 overall though.
that's because he shouldn't have been. maybe the slowest first round receiver ever?
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Keyshawn Johnson was taken 1st overall by the Jets in 1996. Although it is very rare to see a WR taken that high.
Stupid google... thanks! I still don't think he goes #1 overall though.
Stupid google... thanks! I still don't think he goes #1 overall though.
There was Irving Fryer too back in the '80s. Guess I shoulda looked a little harder on that. And it was '65 not '64 for the one before that. Still- 3 WRs in almost 50 years. I dunno, maybe Carolina really likes him. I don't see it happening though.
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CBS mocks, Jan. 6 and today. Man, Blaine Gabbert should buy Luck a Benz, at least:
I think I could live with this projected pick of Nick Fairly to the Browns.
I think I could live with this projected pick of Nick Fairly to the Browns.
i could before tonight. cheap shot artist. i don't want a cheap player who makes dumb moves in big games.
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Nick Fairly looked terrific. He looked like Ndamukung(sp?) Suh tonight. Any team would be lucky to have him, 3-4 or 4-3. Fairly may be the best option for us as I dont see Bowers being available, and Green could be gone too.
I like what I saw from Casey Matthews too. I wanted him on name alone, but tonights game showed he can play. He just needs to fine tune his game.
If LaMichael James decides to come out (which I doubt), he would be sweet, but we dont need a RB as high as he would go.
On a somewhat related note. I like the coaching move Chizic made sending the FG unit out there with 10 sec. making Oregon use(waste) their last timeout in attempts to "ice" the kicker, then sending the offense out there to set up a field goal for when time expired. When they sent the FG unit out I figured thats what they were doing, but I never would have thought to do that originally.
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Fairley dominated on defense for Auburn. But, the stupid facemask shove AFTER he made the tackle and was getting back up off the guy...
he doesn't seem to be very smart. Or disciplined. Maybe just needs to grow up. Darius would be a better fit, I think.
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Nick Fairly looked terrific. He looked like Ndamukung(sp?) Suh tonight. Any team would be lucky to have him, 3-4 or 4-3. Fairly may be the best option for us as I dont see Bowers being available, and Green could be gone too.
I like what I saw from Casey Matthews too. I wanted him on name alone, but tonights game showed he can play. He just needs to fine tune his game.
If LaMichael James decides to come out (which I doubt), he would be sweet, but we dont need a RB as high as he would go.
On a somewhat related note. I like the coaching move Chizic made sending the FG unit out there with 10 sec. making Oregon use(waste) their last timeout in attempts to "ice" the kicker, then sending the offense out there to set up a field goal for when time expired. When they sent the FG unit out I figured thats what they were doing, but I never would have thought to do that originally.
Nick Fairly looked terrific. He looked like Ndamukung(sp?) Suh tonight. Any team would be lucky to have him, 3-4 or 4-3. Fairly may be the best option for us as I dont see Bowers being available, and Green could be gone too.
I like what I saw from Casey Matthews too. I wanted him on name alone, but tonights game showed he can play. He just needs to fine tune his game.
If LaMichael James decides to come out (which I doubt), he would be sweet, but we dont need a RB as high as he would go.
On a somewhat related note. I like the coaching move Chizic made sending the FG unit out there with 10 sec. making Oregon use(waste) their last timeout in attempts to "ice" the kicker, then sending the offense out there to set up a field goal for when time expired. When they sent the FG unit out I figured thats what they were doing, but I never would have thought to do that originally.
Farley definitely moved into the top five with that game against Oregon. Cam Newton played well enough the Cardinals may take a shot at him.
Now who won't take Green? That would be the Cardinals. Yeah I saw Walter's has Carolina taking Green @ #1, but who's going to get him the ball? Clausen? Har har. Denver's going to go D, but a CB @ #2? Even if Champ Bailey departs, I don't see it- not for a team that was dead last in defensive sacks.
With Stinko coming back to the Bengals, a #1 wr isn't a s big a priority as someone, anyone that can generate a pass rush.
So yeah, possibility Green might fall to the Browns, and if he does, it will take about 1\2 second for the Browns to claim him. If he's gone, and the other four picks going defense, I could see the Browns trying to trade back and get an extra second round pick.
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Keyshawn Johnson was taken 1st overall by the Jets in 1996. Although it is very rare to see a WR taken that high.
Stupid google... thanks! I still don't think he goes #1 overall though.
Stupid google... thanks! I still don't think he goes #1 overall though.
I agree. Carolina has Steve Smith. Though getting older, he still gets it done. They also drafted Brandon LaFell last year. While he started slowly, he started to show signs of good things to come. I guess the only worry I might have is Athens, Ga isn't all that far from Charlotte so he would "play" in that market.
Between Green and Fairly, I take Fairly...though i think Fairly goes top 3.
Just ranting a bit, I like a running back and we might be able to get him at the top of round 4...Noel Devine.
He would be a really nice compliment to Hillis.
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Also, in the end I think Carolina will trade down for extra selections...and who ever trades up, I seriously doubt Green will be the target.
I could see them dropping to 10 or lower.
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Ill come back on this board and eat my words if we do get Green at #6 but i really dont see it happening,
As far as Nick Fairley yeah he played well last night and moved himself into the top 5 no doubt i like him better due to Marceull Dareus both they both lack production constantly Dareus had 13 sacks last year and never played up to that potential this year totaling only 3, as well as Fairley last year was no were the season he had this year so you gotta ask yourself are they as good as they appear...I like Bowers who his a physical freak and think he wont be there for us ethier
So i say you have to go WR and if Green is gone which i believe he will be you trade back and take the next sure thing in Blackmon, Jones has hands issues even though his size and speed is very impressive
Heres to hoping Green falls in are lap
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Ill come back on this board and eat my words if we do get Green at #6 but i really dont see it happening,
As far as Nick Fairley yeah he played well last night and moved himself into the top 5 no doubt i like him better due to Marceull Dareus both they both lack production constantly Dareus had 13 sacks last year and never played up to that potential this year totaling only 3, as well as Fairley last year was no were the season he had this year so you gotta ask yourself are they as good as they appear...I like Bowers who his a physical freak and think he wont be there for us ethier
So i say you have to go WR and if Green is gone which i believe he will be you trade back and take the next sure thing in Blackmon, Jones has hands issues even though his size and speed is very impressive
Heres to hoping Green falls in are lap
Ill come back on this board and eat my words if we do get Green at #6 but i really dont see it happening,
As far as Nick Fairley yeah he played well last night and moved himself into the top 5 no doubt i like him better due to Marceull Dareus both they both lack production constantly Dareus had 13 sacks last year and never played up to that potential this year totaling only 3, as well as Fairley last year was no were the season he had this year so you gotta ask yourself are they as good as they appear...I like Bowers who his a physical freak and think he wont be there for us ethier
So i say you have to go WR and if Green is gone which i believe he will be you trade back and take the next sure thing in Blackmon, Jones has hands issues even though his size and speed is very impressive
Heres to hoping Green falls in are lap
blackmon may have great hands, but i still like jones more. he is a monster at 6-4, 220. yeah, he has problems with his hands but that can be coached. he's a beast.
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Nick Fairly looked terrific. He looked like Ndamukung(sp?) Suh tonight. Any team would be lucky to have him, 3-4 or 4-3. Fairly may be the best option for us as I dont see Bowers being available, and Green could be gone too.
I like what I saw from Casey Matthews too. I wanted him on name alone, but tonights game showed he can play. He just needs to fine tune his game.
If LaMichael James decides to come out (which I doubt), he would be sweet, but we dont need a RB as high as he would go.
On a somewhat related note. I like the coaching move Chizic made sending the FG unit out there with 10 sec. making Oregon use(waste) their last timeout in attempts to "ice" the kicker, then sending the offense out there to set up a field goal for when time expired. When they sent the FG unit out I figured thats what they were doing, but I never would have thought to do that originally.
Farley definitely moved into the top five with that game against Oregon. Cam Newton played well enough the Cardinals may take a shot at him.
Now who won't take Green? That would be the Cardinals. Yeah I saw Walter's has Carolina taking Green @ #1, but who's going to get him the ball? Clausen? Har har. Denver's going to go D, but a CB @ #2? Even if Champ Bailey departs, I don't see it- not for a team that was dead last in defensive sacks.
With Stinko coming back to the Bengals, a #1 wr isn't a s big a priority as someone, anyone that can generate a pass rush.
So yeah, possibility Green might fall to the Browns, and if he does, it will take about 1\2 second for the Browns to claim him. If he's gone, and the other four picks going defense, I could see the Browns trying to trade back and get an extra second round pick.
Farley definitely moved into the top five with that game against Oregon. Cam Newton played well enough the Cardinals may take a shot at him.
Now who won't take Green? That would be the Cardinals. Yeah I saw Walter's has Carolina taking Green @ #1, but who's going to get him the ball? Clausen? Har har. Denver's going to go D, but a CB @ #2? Even if Champ Bailey departs, I don't see it- not for a team that was dead last in defensive sacks.
With Stinko coming back to the Bengals, a #1 wr isn't a s big a priority as someone, anyone that can generate a pass rush.
So yeah, possibility Green might fall to the Browns, and if he does, it will take about 1\2 second for the Browns to claim him. If he's gone, and the other four picks going defense, I could see the Browns trying to trade back and get an extra second round pick.
We really need a scoring threat. Trading back is too risky. Alot of these projections will be tossed out after combines also.
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Jones didn't show hands problems nearly as much last year, especially down the stretch. He's a great fit for the WCO.
Nick Fairley may have played himself into the conversation for #1 overall. He's a farging beast. If we stay in our two-gap 3-4, though, I'm not sure that's the best use of his talents. He might dominate as a one-gap in the 4-3. If we switch to a 4-3, he and Rubin (also very active) would be an incredible tandem. I have no clue what the plan is on defense.
For my money, I'd take either Green or Jones first, the Georgia 3-4 OLB second, and a 3-4 DE in round 3. Fourth is a right side blocker, because with Pashos, Lauvao, Yates, and Womack all returning, I'm not convinced we don't have an answer already on the team. I think Lauvao takes over at RG almost for sure. Free agency obviously figures in.
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Trade back in the first
1st.Blackmon or Jones
2nd. Insert best pash rusher whether its Justin Houston Georgia or whomever may drop (cam heyward) Laurnatis and Mualaga both dropped and were projected first round
3rd.Best RT available
4th. Casey Matthews!!! trade up if you have to grab him
That would be my best scerniao also if we trade back and grab Jones or Blackmon then we'd have another pick somewhere in there as well
Because honestly Jones or Blackmon could be had around Mid First round no need to take them with #6 overall unless of course AJ Green is there and then theres no need to have this conversation
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If the Browns got A.J. Green and Justin Houston in rounds 1 and 2, it'd be an absolutely amazing draft addressing our two biggest issues at a very high level. I'd consider moving Fujita inside with Gocong and starting Benard and Houston on the outside. I'd also like to keep DQJ on the cheap for at least one year, see how he does.
Third round for a right tackle would be great, then. Like I said elsewhere, Pashos, Womack, Lauvao, and Yates will return and we can have the starting right side we never fielded last year (probably Lauvao and Pashos) while the rook gets his redshirt year like Lauvao did.
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Washington Post mock, we take Julio Jones.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/box-seats...essary_201.html
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Washington Post mock, we take Julio Jones.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/box-seats...essary_201.html
Washington Post mock, we take Julio Jones.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/box-seats...essary_201.html
I see the Broncos, Bills, and Bengals all going defense. The X factor is what Carolina will do with the #1 pick. Green is a rare talent for sure, but Clausen flat-out sucks. Problem is Cam Newton is not #1 overall material. Frankly in the Championship game, he looked like a much better version of Aaron Pryor. Kid's got the arm and athletic ability, but does he have the smarts? Anyone can look great if they have all day to throw, and CN won't have that luxury in the pros- is he Michael Vick, or Jamarcus Russell?
I could see us taking Jones, but not at #6.
And I don't project Mallett making the top 10, much less the top 20.
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