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  • ClevelandFanForLifeC ClevelandFanForLife

    @rugbydawg said:

    Thanks for the compliment! As for Green to the Browns, I would have agreed with you before we got our hands on the number 6 pick. But now there are only 5 teams in front of us- and each has very good reasons not to take Green.

    Carolina- If my memory and lousy googling skills serve me correctly, there hasn't been a receiver taken #1 overall since 1964. There have been prospects at the position better than Green in the last half century and this draft is not so devoid of talent that they must resort to taking a wideout at the top.

    Keyshawn Johnson was taken 1st overall by the Jets in 1996. Although it is very rare to see a WR taken that high.

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    @clevelandfanforlife said:

    Keyshawn Johnson was taken 1st overall by the Jets in 1996. Although it is very rare to see a WR taken that high.

    Stupid google... thanks! I still don't think he goes #1 overall though.

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      @clevelandfanforlife said:

      Keyshawn Johnson was taken 1st overall by the Jets in 1996. Although it is very rare to see a WR taken that high.

      Stupid google... thanks! I still don't think he goes #1 overall though.

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      ClevelandFanForLifeC ClevelandFanForLife wrote on last edited by
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      @rugbydawg said:

      Stupid google... thanks! I still don't think he goes #1 overall though.

      that's because he shouldn't have been. maybe the slowest first round receiver ever?

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        @clevelandfanforlife said:

        Keyshawn Johnson was taken 1st overall by the Jets in 1996. Although it is very rare to see a WR taken that high.

        Stupid google... thanks! I still don't think he goes #1 overall though.

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        @rugbydawg said:

        Stupid google... thanks! I still don't think he goes #1 overall though.

        There was Irving Fryer too back in the '80s. Guess I shoulda looked a little harder on that. And it was '65 not '64 for the one before that. Still- 3 WRs in almost 50 years. I dunno, maybe Carolina really likes him. I don't see it happening though.

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          CBS mocks, Jan. 6 and today. Man, Blaine Gabbert should buy Luck a Benz, at least:

          http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock

          I think I could live with this projected pick of Nick Fairly to the Browns.

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          ClevelandFanForLifeC ClevelandFanForLife wrote on last edited by
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          @the-gipper said:

          I think I could live with this projected pick of Nick Fairly to the Browns.

          i could before tonight. cheap shot artist. i don't want a cheap player who makes dumb moves in big games.

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            C ClevelandBigDawg wrote on last edited by
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            Nick Fairly looked terrific. He looked like Ndamukung(sp?) Suh tonight. Any team would be lucky to have him, 3-4 or 4-3. Fairly may be the best option for us as I dont see Bowers being available, and Green could be gone too.

            I like what I saw from Casey Matthews too. I wanted him on name alone, but tonights game showed he can play. He just needs to fine tune his game.

            If LaMichael James decides to come out (which I doubt), he would be sweet, but we dont need a RB as high as he would go.

            On a somewhat related note. I like the coaching move Chizic made sending the FG unit out there with 10 sec. making Oregon use(waste) their last timeout in attempts to "ice" the kicker, then sending the offense out there to set up a field goal for when time expired. When they sent the FG unit out I figured thats what they were doing, but I never would have thought to do that originally.

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              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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              Fairley dominated on defense for Auburn. But, the stupid facemask shove AFTER he made the tackle and was getting back up off the guy...

              he doesn't seem to be very smart. Or disciplined. Maybe just needs to grow up. Darius would be a better fit, I think.

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                Nick Fairly looked terrific. He looked like Ndamukung(sp?) Suh tonight. Any team would be lucky to have him, 3-4 or 4-3. Fairly may be the best option for us as I dont see Bowers being available, and Green could be gone too.

                I like what I saw from Casey Matthews too. I wanted him on name alone, but tonights game showed he can play. He just needs to fine tune his game.

                If LaMichael James decides to come out (which I doubt), he would be sweet, but we dont need a RB as high as he would go.

                On a somewhat related note. I like the coaching move Chizic made sending the FG unit out there with 10 sec. making Oregon use(waste) their last timeout in attempts to "ice" the kicker, then sending the offense out there to set up a field goal for when time expired. When they sent the FG unit out I figured thats what they were doing, but I never would have thought to do that originally.

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                @clevelandbigdawg said:

                Nick Fairly looked terrific. He looked like Ndamukung(sp?) Suh tonight. Any team would be lucky to have him, 3-4 or 4-3. Fairly may be the best option for us as I dont see Bowers being available, and Green could be gone too.

                I like what I saw from Casey Matthews too. I wanted him on name alone, but tonights game showed he can play. He just needs to fine tune his game.

                If LaMichael James decides to come out (which I doubt), he would be sweet, but we dont need a RB as high as he would go.

                On a somewhat related note. I like the coaching move Chizic made sending the FG unit out there with 10 sec. making Oregon use(waste) their last timeout in attempts to "ice" the kicker, then sending the offense out there to set up a field goal for when time expired. When they sent the FG unit out I figured thats what they were doing, but I never would have thought to do that originally.

                Farley definitely moved into the top five with that game against Oregon. Cam Newton played well enough the Cardinals may take a shot at him.

                Now who won't take Green? That would be the Cardinals. Yeah I saw Walter's has Carolina taking Green @ #1, but who's going to get him the ball? Clausen? Har har. Denver's going to go D, but a CB @ #2? Even if Champ Bailey departs, I don't see it- not for a team that was dead last in defensive sacks.

                With Stinko coming back to the Bengals, a #1 wr isn't a s big a priority as someone, anyone that can generate a pass rush.

                So yeah, possibility Green might fall to the Browns, and if he does, it will take about 1\2 second for the Browns to claim him. If he's gone, and the other four picks going defense, I could see the Browns trying to trade back and get an extra second round pick.

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                  @clevelandfanforlife said:

                  Keyshawn Johnson was taken 1st overall by the Jets in 1996. Although it is very rare to see a WR taken that high.

                  Stupid google... thanks! I still don't think he goes #1 overall though.

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                  ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                  @rugbydawg said:

                  Stupid google... thanks! I still don't think he goes #1 overall though.

                  I agree. Carolina has Steve Smith. Though getting older, he still gets it done. They also drafted Brandon LaFell last year. While he started slowly, he started to show signs of good things to come. I guess the only worry I might have is Athens, Ga isn't all that far from Charlotte so he would "play" in that market.

                  Between Green and Fairly, I take Fairly...though i think Fairly goes top 3.

                  Just ranting a bit, I like a running back and we might be able to get him at the top of round 4...Noel Devine.

                  He would be a really nice compliment to Hillis.

                  If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                    Also, in the end I think Carolina will trade down for extra selections...and who ever trades up, I seriously doubt Green will be the target.

                    I could see them dropping to 10 or lower.

                    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                      Ill come back on this board and eat my words if we do get Green at #6 but i really dont see it happening,

                      As far as Nick Fairley yeah he played well last night and moved himself into the top 5 no doubt i like him better due to Marceull Dareus both they both lack production constantly Dareus had 13 sacks last year and never played up to that potential this year totaling only 3, as well as Fairley last year was no were the season he had this year so you gotta ask yourself are they as good as they appear...I like Bowers who his a physical freak and think he wont be there for us ethier

                      So i say you have to go WR and if Green is gone which i believe he will be you trade back and take the next sure thing in Blackmon, Jones has hands issues even though his size and speed is very impressive

                      Heres to hoping Green falls in are lap 😎

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                        Ill come back on this board and eat my words if we do get Green at #6 but i really dont see it happening,

                        As far as Nick Fairley yeah he played well last night and moved himself into the top 5 no doubt i like him better due to Marceull Dareus both they both lack production constantly Dareus had 13 sacks last year and never played up to that potential this year totaling only 3, as well as Fairley last year was no were the season he had this year so you gotta ask yourself are they as good as they appear...I like Bowers who his a physical freak and think he wont be there for us ethier

                        So i say you have to go WR and if Green is gone which i believe he will be you trade back and take the next sure thing in Blackmon, Jones has hands issues even though his size and speed is very impressive

                        Heres to hoping Green falls in are lap 😎

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                        ClevelandFanForLifeC ClevelandFanForLife wrote on last edited by
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                        @nw220 said:

                        Ill come back on this board and eat my words if we do get Green at #6 but i really dont see it happening,

                        As far as Nick Fairley yeah he played well last night and moved himself into the top 5 no doubt i like him better due to Marceull Dareus both they both lack production constantly Dareus had 13 sacks last year and never played up to that potential this year totaling only 3, as well as Fairley last year was no were the season he had this year so you gotta ask yourself are they as good as they appear...I like Bowers who his a physical freak and think he wont be there for us ethier

                        So i say you have to go WR and if Green is gone which i believe he will be you trade back and take the next sure thing in Blackmon, Jones has hands issues even though his size and speed is very impressive

                        Heres to hoping Green falls in are lap 😎

                        blackmon may have great hands, but i still like jones more. he is a monster at 6-4, 220. yeah, he has problems with his hands but that can be coached. he's a beast.

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                          @clevelandbigdawg said:

                          Nick Fairly looked terrific. He looked like Ndamukung(sp?) Suh tonight. Any team would be lucky to have him, 3-4 or 4-3. Fairly may be the best option for us as I dont see Bowers being available, and Green could be gone too.

                          I like what I saw from Casey Matthews too. I wanted him on name alone, but tonights game showed he can play. He just needs to fine tune his game.

                          If LaMichael James decides to come out (which I doubt), he would be sweet, but we dont need a RB as high as he would go.

                          On a somewhat related note. I like the coaching move Chizic made sending the FG unit out there with 10 sec. making Oregon use(waste) their last timeout in attempts to "ice" the kicker, then sending the offense out there to set up a field goal for when time expired. When they sent the FG unit out I figured thats what they were doing, but I never would have thought to do that originally.

                          Farley definitely moved into the top five with that game against Oregon. Cam Newton played well enough the Cardinals may take a shot at him.

                          Now who won't take Green? That would be the Cardinals. Yeah I saw Walter's has Carolina taking Green @ #1, but who's going to get him the ball? Clausen? Har har. Denver's going to go D, but a CB @ #2? Even if Champ Bailey departs, I don't see it- not for a team that was dead last in defensive sacks.

                          With Stinko coming back to the Bengals, a #1 wr isn't a s big a priority as someone, anyone that can generate a pass rush.

                          So yeah, possibility Green might fall to the Browns, and if he does, it will take about 1\2 second for the Browns to claim him. If he's gone, and the other four picks going defense, I could see the Browns trying to trade back and get an extra second round pick.

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                          hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
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                          @hoorta said:

                          Farley definitely moved into the top five with that game against Oregon. Cam Newton played well enough the Cardinals may take a shot at him.

                          Now who won't take Green? That would be the Cardinals. Yeah I saw Walter's has Carolina taking Green @ #1, but who's going to get him the ball? Clausen? Har har. Denver's going to go D, but a CB @ #2? Even if Champ Bailey departs, I don't see it- not for a team that was dead last in defensive sacks.

                          With Stinko coming back to the Bengals, a #1 wr isn't a s big a priority as someone, anyone that can generate a pass rush.

                          So yeah, possibility Green might fall to the Browns, and if he does, it will take about 1\2 second for the Browns to claim him. If he's gone, and the other four picks going defense, I could see the Browns trying to trade back and get an extra second round pick.

                          We really need a scoring threat. Trading back is too risky. Alot of these projections will be tossed out after combines also.

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                            Jones didn't show hands problems nearly as much last year, especially down the stretch. He's a great fit for the WCO.

                            Nick Fairley may have played himself into the conversation for #1 overall. He's a farging beast. If we stay in our two-gap 3-4, though, I'm not sure that's the best use of his talents. He might dominate as a one-gap in the 4-3. If we switch to a 4-3, he and Rubin (also very active) would be an incredible tandem. I have no clue what the plan is on defense.

                            For my money, I'd take either Green or Jones first, the Georgia 3-4 OLB second, and a 3-4 DE in round 3. Fourth is a right side blocker, because with Pashos, Lauvao, Yates, and Womack all returning, I'm not convinced we don't have an answer already on the team. I think Lauvao takes over at RG almost for sure. Free agency obviously figures in.

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                              Trade back in the first

                              1st.Blackmon or Jones

                              2nd. Insert best pash rusher whether its Justin Houston Georgia or whomever may drop (cam heyward) Laurnatis and Mualaga both dropped and were projected first round

                              3rd.Best RT available

                              4th. Casey Matthews!!! trade up if you have to grab him

                              That would be my best scerniao also if we trade back and grab Jones or Blackmon then we'd have another pick somewhere in there as well

                              Because honestly Jones or Blackmon could be had around Mid First round no need to take them with #6 overall unless of course AJ Green is there and then theres no need to have this conversation

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                                If the Browns got A.J. Green and Justin Houston in rounds 1 and 2, it'd be an absolutely amazing draft addressing our two biggest issues at a very high level. I'd consider moving Fujita inside with Gocong and starting Benard and Houston on the outside. I'd also like to keep DQJ on the cheap for at least one year, see how he does.

                                Third round for a right tackle would be great, then. Like I said elsewhere, Pashos, Womack, Lauvao, and Yates will return and we can have the starting right side we never fielded last year (probably Lauvao and Pashos) while the rook gets his redshirt year like Lauvao did.

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                                  Washington Post mock, we take Julio Jones.

                                  http://voices.washingtonpost.com/box-seats...essary_201.html

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                                    Washington Post mock, we take Julio Jones.

                                    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/box-seats...essary_201.html

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                                    @shepwrite said:

                                    Washington Post mock, we take Julio Jones.

                                    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/box-seats...essary_201.html

                                    I see the Broncos, Bills, and Bengals all going defense. The X factor is what Carolina will do with the #1 pick. Green is a rare talent for sure, but Clausen flat-out sucks. Problem is Cam Newton is not #1 overall material. Frankly in the Championship game, he looked like a much better version of Aaron Pryor. Kid's got the arm and athletic ability, but does he have the smarts? Anyone can look great if they have all day to throw, and CN won't have that luxury in the pros- is he Michael Vick, or Jamarcus Russell?

                                    I could see us taking Jones, but not at #6.

                                    And I don't project Mallett making the top 10, much less the top 20.

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                                      Julio Jones is NOT a top-6 talent. Friends don't let friends read the Washington Post.

                                      The choice has to be between Dareus or Quinn, whichever one Arizona doesn't take. Sure, keep up the pipe dream: If AJ Green is available, we take him.. but that won't happen.

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                                        Julio Jones is NOT a top-6 talent. Friends don't let friends read the Washington Post.

                                        The choice has to be between Dareus or Quinn, whichever one Arizona doesn't take. Sure, keep up the pipe dream: If AJ Green is available, we take him.. but that won't happen.

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                                        @unsympathetic said:

                                        Julio Jones is NOT a top-6 talent. Friends don't let friends read the Washington Post.

                                        The choice has to be between Dareus or Quinn, whichever one Arizona doesn't take. Sure, keep up the pipe dream: If AJ Green is available, we take him.. but that won't happen.

                                        Excatly hes not top 10 talent but why not trade back and grab him or say Blackmon while still picking up additional picks thats the smartest move we could make...Robert Quinn hasnt played in a full season and Dareus is a risk pick due to production consitincy...So whats the logic move trade back because Green most likely wont be there and take Jones or Blackmon...Grab a playmaking Pass Rusher with are 2nd round choice there will be plenty there that wont have the gamble as picking one at the #6 overall selection

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                                          Browns History of selections in case you've forgotten

                                          WRs/TEs drafted by Cleveland since rejoining 1999

                                          Bryalon Edwards- Clearly not worth the #3 overall selection knew this at the time but we did it anyways still hes making for NYJ still right now

                                          Kellen Winslow Jr-Knee problems here in Cleveland never played up to potential has had a decent career while still being productive for TB

                                          D Lineman/Pass Russers Drafted by Cleveland

                                          Courtney Brown-Ouch

                                          Gerald Warren- Damn aint it sad

                                          Kameron Wimberly- Decent Production for Oakland but got the boot from Cleveland because we didnt want him

                                          Which route would you perfer?

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