2011 COACHING AND FRONT OFFICE MOVEMENT

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ROTFLMAO

If they hire Wandstedt I will be convinced that Holmgren just came here to get rid of mangini

ballpeen

@wrrebel said:
How does dave wannestdt get jobs at all? I wouldn't hire him to take out my trash..
He must have blackmail on some serious people

I agree.

It just shows that once you make the fraternity, you have to show you are a total dipstick....heck, even then you get 4-5 more chances at a decent job.

Mr. T

Wannstedt would make perfect since for us. This guy is a football coach.

TheClevelandSound

My projected staff for 2011:

HC- Pat Shurmur

OC- Gil Haskell

WR's- George McDonald

QB's- Jim Zorn

TE's- Steve Hagan

OL- George Warhop

DC- Dave Wannestedt/John Fox

LB- Matt Eberflus

CB- Jerome Henderson

DL- Bryan Cox

ST- Brad Seely

TheClevelandSound

Breaking News:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6015881

Rams offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur has emerged as the leading candidate for the Cleveland Browns' head coaching job, according to league sources.

The sources said Cleveland hopes to hammer out a contract with Shurmur within the next 48 hours and introduce Shurmur as coach at a news conference by Friday.

Browns president Mike Holmgren, general manager Tom Heckert, executive vice president Bryan Wiedmeier and Shurmur all have the same agent, Bob Lamonte.

If Shurmur's deal falls through, the Browns could turn to former Panthers head coach John Fox, who spent Wednesday interviewing with the Broncos. Cleveland already has also interviewed Falcons offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey and Giants defensive coordinator Perry Fewell, but Shurmur is the candidate that has commanded the most attention.

Holmgren likes Shurmur and what he can bring to the Browns, accorfing to the sources. The 44-year-old Shurmur has spent the past two seasons as the Rams offensive coordinator. Before joining St. Louis' staff, he worked on the Eagles coaching staff from 1999-2008.

Soju

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...pe_to_have.html

He may be introduced on Friday as the new head coach of the Cleveland Browns. Well...this sucks

shepwrite

@soju said:
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...pe_to_have.html
He may be introduced on Friday as the new head coach of the Cleveland Browns. Well...this sucks

Why does it suck? It doesn't suck unless the team sucks for three years. Butch Davis was seen as a "get," and that didn't work at all. Mike Smith was seen as a dull choice... and it's been awesome.

Holmgren and Heckert obviously know Shurmur very, very well... and they want him to be the head coach. Do you think they're morons?

cddbrowns

@soju said:
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...pe_to_have.html
He may be introduced on Friday as the new head coach of the Cleveland Browns. Well...this sucks

Ill go ahead and start it, FIRE SHURMUR! HIRE GRUDEN!

Bodogjoe

I have to go with Holmgren -- He wouldnt pick someone that was not the right fit. Remember, he wasnt the one who hired Eric Mangini.

Soju

@shepwrite said:
Why does it suck? It doesn't suck unless the team sucks for three years. Butch Davis was seen as a "get," and that didn't work at all. Mike Smith was seen as a dull choice... and it's been awesome.
Holmgren and Heckert obviously know Shurmur very, very well... and they want him to be the head coach. Do you think they're morons?

It sucks because whether or not we had ideal scenarios, he wasn't the IDEAL coaching candidate to take over the Browns. Who knows what this guy can do. I wanted someone that had NFL head coaching experience. I will reserve judgment, but not too thrilled about this choice.

WRREBEL

Well he can't we worse than mangini..

I will hold my judgement

WRREBEL

@cddbrowns said:
Ill go ahead and start it, FIRE SHURMUR! HIRE GRUDEN!

Its time to move on from gruden. As much as I pimped for him to come here it was obvious he was too big of a girl..

Gruden is better of coaching flag football

ClevelandFanForLife

@soju said:
It sucks because whether or not we had ideal scenarios, he wasn't the IDEAL coaching candidate to take over the Browns. Who knows what this guy can do. I wanted someone that had NFL head coaching experience.

i know that experience is important. however, it's a double edged sword. hiring a coach with experience means that coach has been fired before (except for a guy who retired like cowher). even if gruden came back to coach for us, he was still fired for not getting the job done. people in atlanta weren't excited about mike smith and now they are a 1 seed. give this guy a chance. don't go into this new regime with thoughts of who our next coach should be.

cddbrowns

@wrrebel said:
Its time to move on from gruden. As much as I pimped for him to come here it was obvious he was too big of a girl..
Gruden is better of coaching flag football

This time next year, you will hear that chant.......

sisky fringo

well.....at least it's not Gruden!!

Welcome to CLE, Pat!

if i could only have one thing, it's for you to continue what EM started and not tear it down to the floor. don't lose time, there is already a good locker room and attitude in place that should just be built around. !

with solid offensive personell and play-calling, this team could realistically go 10-6 (9-7 at worst) this year.

degradation and/or stagnation is completely unacceptable.

i'd also like to stay a 3-4 D but beggars can't be choosin. Congrats and Good Luck!!

36Bones

I agree. I'll give the guy a chance. He can't be anywhere as stinky as Daboll. It was clear he was the early choice. Now we can move on to finding the RIGHT OC. I have always preferred a HC that was offense minded anyway.

WRREBEL

@cddbrowns said:
This time next year, you will hear that chant.......

Not from me you won't. Gruden shit has sailed. If he had any interest he would have bit. I don't want a guy who would rather be making out with mike turico than coaching the browns

Slurp and Burp

Holmgren is not a genius by any means. No other team was interested in Holmgren and he took the job in Cleveland to pad his paycheck until he retires.

Shurmur is a candidate that, like Mangini, no one else was interested in.

This is good news for the Steelers. We will have two guaranteed wins a year against the most inept franchise in the NFL.

Party on Steeler Fans.

bringbackbrownie2

@shepwrite said:
Why does it suck? It doesn't suck unless the team sucks for three years. Butch Davis was seen as a "get," and that didn't work at all. Mike Smith was seen as a dull choice... and it's been awesome.
Holmgren and Heckert obviously know Shurmur very, very well... and they want him to be the head coach. Do you think they're morons?

wait what? why would the new guy get 3 years when Mangini only got 2? talk about double standards...

if we win only 5 or 6 games next year that would be a failure, let alone 3 more years of it. I am ok with a new coach as long as it doesn't mean we have to start all over... AGAIN.

shepwrite

@soju said:
It sucks because whether or not we had ideal scenarios, he wasn't the IDEAL coaching candidate to take over the Browns. Who knows what this guy can do. I wanted someone that had NFL head coaching experience. I will reserve judgment, but not too thrilled about this choice.

He's the ideal choice for Holmgren and Heckert. I trust their judgment more than yours or anyone else here, honestly. I just don't get too worked up about coaches because I know I don't know shit from shinola (!) and it never goes the way you think it's gonna go.

I can read shit and watch tape on draft prospects... I have no idea how to judge a coaching prospect. I wasn't in the interview. I know I can't go by his stats (Romeo, so many others). I'll leave that to guys like Holmgren and Heckert.