2011 COACHING AND FRONT OFFICE MOVEMENT
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...pe_to_have.html
He may be introduced on Friday as the new head coach of the Cleveland Browns. Well...this sucks
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...pe_to_have.html
He may be introduced on Friday as the new head coach of the Cleveland Browns. Well...this sucks
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...pe_to_have.html
He may be introduced on Friday as the new head coach of the Cleveland Browns. Well...this sucks
Why does it suck? It doesn't suck unless the team sucks for three years. Butch Davis was seen as a "get," and that didn't work at all. Mike Smith was seen as a dull choice... and it's been awesome.
Holmgren and Heckert obviously know Shurmur very, very well... and they want him to be the head coach. Do you think they're morons?
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...pe_to_have.html
He may be introduced on Friday as the new head coach of the Cleveland Browns. Well...this sucks
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...pe_to_have.html
He may be introduced on Friday as the new head coach of the Cleveland Browns. Well...this sucks
Ill go ahead and start it, FIRE SHURMUR! HIRE GRUDEN!
If at first you dont succeed, skydiving is not for you. -
I have to go with Holmgren -- He wouldnt pick someone that was not the right fit. Remember, he wasnt the one who hired Eric Mangini.
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...pe_to_have.html
He may be introduced on Friday as the new head coach of the Cleveland Browns. Well...this sucks
Why does it suck? It doesn't suck unless the team sucks for three years. Butch Davis was seen as a "get," and that didn't work at all. Mike Smith was seen as a dull choice... and it's been awesome.
Holmgren and Heckert obviously know Shurmur very, very well... and they want him to be the head coach. Do you think they're morons?
Why does it suck? It doesn't suck unless the team sucks for three years. Butch Davis was seen as a "get," and that didn't work at all. Mike Smith was seen as a dull choice... and it's been awesome.
Holmgren and Heckert obviously know Shurmur very, very well... and they want him to be the head coach. Do you think they're morons?
It sucks because whether or not we had ideal scenarios, he wasn't the IDEAL coaching candidate to take over the Browns. Who knows what this guy can do. I wanted someone that had NFL head coaching experience. I will reserve judgment, but not too thrilled about this choice.
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...pe_to_have.html
He may be introduced on Friday as the new head coach of the Cleveland Browns. Well...this sucks
Ill go ahead and start it, FIRE SHURMUR! HIRE GRUDEN!
Ill go ahead and start it, FIRE SHURMUR! HIRE GRUDEN!
Its time to move on from gruden. As much as I pimped for him to come here it was obvious he was too big of a girl..
Gruden is better of coaching flag football
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Why does it suck? It doesn't suck unless the team sucks for three years. Butch Davis was seen as a "get," and that didn't work at all. Mike Smith was seen as a dull choice... and it's been awesome.
Holmgren and Heckert obviously know Shurmur very, very well... and they want him to be the head coach. Do you think they're morons?
It sucks because whether or not we had ideal scenarios, he wasn't the IDEAL coaching candidate to take over the Browns. Who knows what this guy can do. I wanted someone that had NFL head coaching experience. I will reserve judgment, but not too thrilled about this choice.
It sucks because whether or not we had ideal scenarios, he wasn't the IDEAL coaching candidate to take over the Browns. Who knows what this guy can do. I wanted someone that had NFL head coaching experience.
i know that experience is important. however, it's a double edged sword. hiring a coach with experience means that coach has been fired before (except for a guy who retired like cowher). even if gruden came back to coach for us, he was still fired for not getting the job done. people in atlanta weren't excited about mike smith and now they are a 1 seed. give this guy a chance. don't go into this new regime with thoughts of who our next coach should be.
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Ill go ahead and start it, FIRE SHURMUR! HIRE GRUDEN!
Its time to move on from gruden. As much as I pimped for him to come here it was obvious he was too big of a girl..
Gruden is better of coaching flag football
Its time to move on from gruden. As much as I pimped for him to come here it was obvious he was too big of a girl..
Gruden is better of coaching flag football
This time next year, you will hear that chant.......
If at first you dont succeed, skydiving is not for you. -
well.....at least it's not Gruden!!
Welcome to CLE, Pat!
if i could only have one thing, it's for you to continue what EM started and not tear it down to the floor. don't lose time, there is already a good locker room and attitude in place that should just be built around. !
with solid offensive personell and play-calling, this team could realistically go 10-6 (9-7 at worst) this year.
degradation and/or stagnation is completely unacceptable.
i'd also like to stay a 3-4 D but beggars can't be choosin. Congrats and Good Luck!!
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This time next year, you will hear that chant.......
Not from me you won't. Gruden shit has sailed. If he had any interest he would have bit. I don't want a guy who would rather be making out with mike turico than coaching the browns
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Holmgren is not a genius by any means. No other team was interested in Holmgren and he took the job in Cleveland to pad his paycheck until he retires.
Shurmur is a candidate that, like Mangini, no one else was interested in.
This is good news for the Steelers. We will have two guaranteed wins a year against the most inept franchise in the NFL.
Party on Steeler Fans.
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...pe_to_have.html
He may be introduced on Friday as the new head coach of the Cleveland Browns. Well...this sucks
Why does it suck? It doesn't suck unless the team sucks for three years. Butch Davis was seen as a "get," and that didn't work at all. Mike Smith was seen as a dull choice... and it's been awesome.
Holmgren and Heckert obviously know Shurmur very, very well... and they want him to be the head coach. Do you think they're morons?
Why does it suck? It doesn't suck unless the team sucks for three years. Butch Davis was seen as a "get," and that didn't work at all. Mike Smith was seen as a dull choice... and it's been awesome.
Holmgren and Heckert obviously know Shurmur very, very well... and they want him to be the head coach. Do you think they're morons?
wait what? why would the new guy get 3 years when Mangini only got 2? talk about double standards...
if we win only 5 or 6 games next year that would be a failure, let alone 3 more years of it. I am ok with a new coach as long as it doesn't mean we have to start all over... AGAIN.
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Why does it suck? It doesn't suck unless the team sucks for three years. Butch Davis was seen as a "get," and that didn't work at all. Mike Smith was seen as a dull choice... and it's been awesome.
Holmgren and Heckert obviously know Shurmur very, very well... and they want him to be the head coach. Do you think they're morons?
It sucks because whether or not we had ideal scenarios, he wasn't the IDEAL coaching candidate to take over the Browns. Who knows what this guy can do. I wanted someone that had NFL head coaching experience. I will reserve judgment, but not too thrilled about this choice.
It sucks because whether or not we had ideal scenarios, he wasn't the IDEAL coaching candidate to take over the Browns. Who knows what this guy can do. I wanted someone that had NFL head coaching experience. I will reserve judgment, but not too thrilled about this choice.
He's the ideal choice for Holmgren and Heckert. I trust their judgment more than yours or anyone else here, honestly. I just don't get too worked up about coaches because I know I don't know shit from shinola (!) and it never goes the way you think it's gonna go.
I can read shit and watch tape on draft prospects... I have no idea how to judge a coaching prospect. I wasn't in the interview. I know I can't go by his stats (Romeo, so many others). I'll leave that to guys like Holmgren and Heckert.
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Holmgren is not a genius by any means. No other team was interested in Holmgren and he took the job in Cleveland to pad his paycheck until he retires.
Shurmur is a candidate that, like Mangini, no one else was interested in.
This is good news for the Steelers. We will have two guaranteed wins a year against the most inept franchise in the NFL.
Party on Steeler Fans.
Surf and Turf said:
Holmgren is not a genius by any means. No other team was interested in Holmgren and he took the job in Cleveland to pad his paycheck until he retires.what's the list of guys who have taken 2 different teams to superbowls? that's what i thought. holmgren knows how to build a team from the ground up. i trust him. also, you're quarterback looks like a gay muppet who likes hands up his skirt.
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Why does it suck? It doesn't suck unless the team sucks for three years. Butch Davis was seen as a "get," and that didn't work at all. Mike Smith was seen as a dull choice... and it's been awesome.
Holmgren and Heckert obviously know Shurmur very, very well... and they want him to be the head coach. Do you think they're morons?
wait what? why would the new guy get 3 years when Mangini only got 2? talk about double standards...
if we win only 5 or 6 games next year that would be a failure, let alone 3 more years of it. I am ok with a new coach as long as it doesn't mean we have to start all over... AGAIN.
wait what? why would the new guy get 3 years when Mangini only got 2? talk about double standards...
if we win only 5 or 6 games next year that would be a failure, let alone 3 more years of it. I am ok with a new coach as long as it doesn't mean we have to start all over... AGAIN.
Are you arguing for more than three... or less? At the end it sounds like you wanna stick with him no matter what.
But my point isn't really the duration. It's that judging a head coaching candidate before you see what he does and how it works out is wholly futile in every conceivable way. We should know that by now.
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Surf and Turf said:
Holmgren is not a genius by any means. No other team was interested in Holmgren and he took the job in Cleveland to pad his paycheck until he retires.what's the list of guys who have taken 2 different teams to superbowls? that's what i thought. holmgren knows how to build a team from the ground up. i trust him. also, you're quarterback looks like a gay muppet who likes hands up his skirt.
what's the list of guys who have taken 2 different teams to superbowls? that's what i thought. holmgren knows how to build a team from the ground up. i trust him. also, you're quarterback looks like a gay muppet who likes hands up his skirt.
Seriously. Whoever you responded to need to know that Holmgren is held in EXTREMELY high regard by anybody who knows anything about football. He's coached in THREE Super Bowls for two different teams.
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Pat Shurmur?
He is the only candidate the Browns could woo.
Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh just high-fived each other.
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