Mangini on Shurmur
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...and I shall name my next child Mangini.....
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If W-L is the end all be all, then answer the questions. Could a lesser team have a better W-L record if more healthy and in an easier schedule than a better team with a worse record in a much harder schedule with more injuries? That's isn't possible huh?
Second part, really? Heart surgery compared to building a football team? LOL! Immediate results compared to the time it takes to build a football team. But then, that's the problem isn't it? Browns fans expect immediate results, it will NEVER happen until the roster is fixed.
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If W-L is the end all be all, then answer the questions. Could a lesser team have a better W-L record if more healthy and in an easier schedule than a better team with a worse record in a much harder schedule with more injuries? That's isn't possible huh?
Second part, really? Heart surgery compared to building a football team? LOL! Immediate results compared to the time it takes to build a football team. But then, that's the problem isn't it? Browns fans expect immediate results, it will NEVER happen until the roster is fixed.
If W-L is the end all be all, then answer the questions. Could a lesser team have a better W-L record if more healthy and in an easier schedule than a better team with a worse record in a much harder schedule with more injuries? That's isn't possible huh?
Second part, really? Heart surgery compared to building a football team? LOL! Immediate results compared to the time it takes to build a football team. But then, that's the problem isn't it? Browns fans expect immediate results, it will NEVER happen until the roster is fixed.
When you're as old as I am you live for immediate results so you can get off your wife and go back to watching ESPN.
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Shurmur's 2010 offensive rank was 26th in the league, our offense was ranked 29th. Now THAT'S improvement!
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Thats exactly right milky..How has that worked out for the Steelers?..6 Super Bowls..DUH..
Morons like Gips and Wrrebel will be screaming for Shumur head if he goes 6 and 10.
The press will get on Shumur ..Lerner will panic and fire everyone..I told you, this team since the
expansion is like Groundhog Day...just keeps repeating the same scenario
The definition of insanity is to keep during the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
HA! So your saying Gips and I played a role in Mangini being fired?
Yet mornons like you were all over a coaches nuts who was 10-22. In the NFL it doesnt take 10 years to turn a team around. At least im holding judgement to see what he puts on the field (shurmur).
Mangini had his chance and FAILED! He is gone.. He was an idiot savant..
Get over it, or go root for your loverboy at ESPN..
The difference between you and I, is my loyalty lies with the Browns. You dont see me crying about my loverboy not coming to coach
HA! So your saying Gips and I played a role in Mangini being fired?
Yet mornons like you were all over a coaches nuts who was 10-22. In the NFL it doesnt take 10 years to turn a team around. At least im holding judgement to see what he puts on the field (shurmur).
Mangini had his chance and FAILED! He is gone.. He was an idiot savant..
Get over it, or go root for your loverboy at ESPN..
The difference between you and I, is my loyalty lies with the Browns. You dont see me crying about my loverboy not coming to coach
And there's the problem. ONLY looking at wins and losses- not taking other factors into consideration. Yeah Kansas City sure turned it around all right- only playing one team with a winning record. Oh, and then they had to play a REAL team in the playoffs- the Ravens- and guess what? They got blown out, just like they would have playing in the AFC North. Instant gratification goobers. Tom Landry went 13-38 his first couple years with suck teams at Dallas. Bill Belichick was nothing home to write about his first few coaching stints. (LOL Modell will go down in history firing two-and maybe three- if Marty ever makes it HOF coaches) So Shurmur doesn't turn it around immediately, can his ass too. That's been the Cleveland way since 1999.
Mangini's gone, can't feel too sorry for a guy who will collect $7 million bucks over the next two years for not working. I just hope Holmgren's right. One thing for certain- I'm not going to be dancing in the streets anytime soon just because the Browns have a new coach.
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Again I ask, why should I? All the "anti-Mangini" hoping for losses so he would be finally gone out of the NFL guys wouldnt. Now that you guys got what you want you want people to be quiet and accept it? LOL! No chance bro, I SHOULD hope for losses so Shurmur is finally fired and we can find a good HC, just like the haters did. I love the Browns too much for that though unfortunately. Year after year, same old crap, same old loud Browns "fans" getting everything they want with their impatience, thinking the high ups dont listen to them. LOL! Yeah, ok. Lerner is the biggest knee jerk owner moron in the NFL, its sickening.
And youre saying that Holmgren DIDNT hire "his guy" who is signed by "his agent" just like the REST OF THE FO? LOL! Ok then.
I didnt like the mangini hire from the start...Am I glad hes gone?...yes...Do I hate the guy?...No!..I just hate his style of coaching...hes a gameday moron. And no dufus I didnt say Holmgren didnt hire his guy...would you expect him to hire someone that did not agree with his philosphy on the game?...Dont be naive...If your hoping for losses for the new HC you dont deserve to be anymore a fan than I am...Fandom of a team isnt something you wear like clothes and you decide to take it off cuz you decided you dont like the color.
I didnt like the mangini hire from the start...Am I glad hes gone?...yes...Do I hate the guy?...No!
ok. don't get your nickers in a bunch nicker.
..I just hate his style of coaching...hes a gameday moron. And no dufus I didnt say Holmgren didnt hire his guy...would you expect him to hire someone that did not agree with his philosphy on the game?...Dont be naive...If your hoping for losses for the new HC you dont deserve to be anymore a fan than I am...
exactly. so when your sides move doesn't work out can we bitch then? how about before it? FxxK you and mike holmgren. how's the fish down there, fat boy??
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I didnt like the mangini hire from the start...Am I glad hes gone?...yes...Do I hate the guy?...No!
ok. don't get your nickers in a bunch nicker.
..I just hate his style of coaching...hes a gameday moron. And no dufus I didnt say Holmgren didnt hire his guy...would you expect him to hire someone that did not agree with his philosphy on the game?...Dont be naive...If your hoping for losses for the new HC you dont deserve to be anymore a fan than I am...
exactly. so when your sides move doesn't work out can we bitch then? how about before it? FxxK you and mike holmgren. how's the fish down there, fat boy??
ok. don't get your nickers in a bunch nicker.
exactly. so when your sides move doesn't work out can we bitch then? how about before it? FxxK you and mike holmgren. how's the fish down there, fat boy??
Wow dude did someone shit in your oatmeal?
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
I didnt like the mangini hire from the start...Am I glad hes gone?...yes...Do I hate the guy?...No!
ok. don't get your nickers in a bunch nicker.
..I just hate his style of coaching...hes a gameday moron. And no dufus I didnt say Holmgren didnt hire his guy...would you expect him to hire someone that did not agree with his philosphy on the game?...Dont be naive...If your hoping for losses for the new HC you dont deserve to be anymore a fan than I am...
exactly. so when your sides move doesn't work out can we bitch then? how about before it? FxxK you and mike holmgren. how's the fish down there, fat boy??
ok. don't get your nickers in a bunch nicker.
exactly. so when your sides move doesn't work out can we bitch then? how about before it? FxxK you and mike holmgren. how's the fish down there, fat boy??
Is he a Browns fan??
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All I am going to say on this is I guarantee the same people who called for Mangini's head will be calling for the new guys head after one season if he doesn't take this team to the playoffs and that's not fair. A coach should get more than 2 years except for cases like McDaniels where he did everything he could to get fired.
Can can spout all you want about improvement is in the record, but you are a moron if couldn't see that this team was far improved over last season and that we didn't start playing bad until after alot of our play makers were injured. Hell our whole right side of the o line and most of our defensive leaders went on IR. I don't blame coaches for injuries. I hope this new coach can do great things with our current team with a solid draft and good FA pick ups, and he will have my support for at least 3 years to show us what he can do because this whole 1-2 year bullshit needs to stop.
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All I am going to say on this is I guarantee the same people who called for Mangini's head will be calling for the new guys head after one season if he doesn't take this team to the playoffs and that's not fair. A coach should get more than 2 years except for cases like McDaniels where he did everything he could to get fired.
Can can spout all you want about improvement is in the record, but you are a moron if couldn't see that this team was far improved over last season and that we didn't start playing bad until after alot of our play makers were injured. Hell our whole right side of the o line and most of our defensive leaders went on IR. I don't blame coaches for injuries. I hope this new coach can do great things with our current team with a solid draft and good FA pick ups, and he will have my support for at least 3 years to show us what he can do because this whole 1-2 year bullshit needs to stop.
Hillis-iz-Boss said:
All I am going to say on this is I guarantee the same people who called for Mangini's head will be calling for the new guys head after one season if he doesn't take this team to the playoffs and that's not fair. A coach should get more than 2 years except for cases like McDaniels where he did everything he could to get fired.Can can spout all you want about improvement is in the record, but you are a moron if couldn't see that this team was far improved over last season and that we didn't start playing bad until after alot of our play makers were injured. Hell our whole right side of the o line and most of our defensive leaders went on IR. I don't blame coaches for injuries. I hope this new coach can do great things with our current team with a solid draft and good FA pick ups, and he will have my support for at least 3 years to show us what he can do because this whole 1-2 year bullshit needs to stop.
+1, AMEN.
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All I am going to say on this is I guarantee the same people who called for Mangini's head will be calling for the new guys head after one season if he doesn't take this team to the playoffs and that's not fair. A coach should get more than 2 years except for cases like McDaniels where he did everything he could to get fired.
Can can spout all you want about improvement is in the record, but you are a moron if couldn't see that this team was far improved over last season and that we didn't start playing bad until after alot of our play makers were injured. Hell our whole right side of the o line and most of our defensive leaders went on IR. I don't blame coaches for injuries. I hope this new coach can do great things with our current team with a solid draft and good FA pick ups, and he will have my support for at least 3 years to show us what he can do because this whole 1-2 year bullshit needs to stop.
Hillis-iz-Boss said:
All I am going to say on this is I guarantee the same people who called for Mangini's head will be calling for the new guys head after one season if he doesn't take this team to the playoffs and that's not fair. A coach should get more than 2 years except for cases like McDaniels where he did everything he could to get fired.Can can spout all you want about improvement is in the record, but you are a moron if couldn't see that this team was far improved over last season and that we didn't start playing bad until after alot of our play makers were injured. Hell our whole right side of the o line and most of our defensive leaders went on IR. I don't blame coaches for injuries. I hope this new coach can do great things with our current team with a solid draft and good FA pick ups, and he will have my support for at least 3 years to show us what he can do because this whole 1-2 year bullshit needs to stop.
I wish you could push the Thanks button more than once......
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Shurmur said "process" a WHOLE lot today in his presser. LOL! Here it goes again. "its a process" was the BIGGEST thing everyone held against Mangini. I cant wait for the first legit "FIRE SHURMUR" post.
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Is he a Browns fan??
more than you'll ever know. now go back to your ravens board. PLEEEZ!!!
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I don't know about you guys, but I sure am excited to watch McCoy throw a bunch of 4 yard passes next year!
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I don't know about you guys, but I sure am excited to watch McCoy throw a bunch of 4 yard passes next year!
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Wow dude did someone shit in your oatmeal?
no i just don't like fags whose usernames are the sysnonym of BIG FAT BRITISH WHORE'S PANTIES. or didn't you know that, nickers?
why don't you change it to wrrebelfag or hosshomo?
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I don't know about you guys, but I sure am excited to watch McCoy throw a bunch of 4 yard passes next year! Bonedawg
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I'm going to be excited to watch him throw 4 yd passes, and 10 yard passes, and Hillis flattening defenses again,
and McCoy throwing occasional mid to long range throws to a wide open #1 wr, be it Green, Jones, or Torrey Smith. It will be
one of those three... @@
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